‘They Cloned Tyrone’: How Does This Film Reflect on America Today? Karen Hunter, Dr. Greg Carr

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‘They Cloned Tyrone’ Explained, How Does This Film Reflect on America Today? Karen Hunter, Dr. Greg Carr
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[@networth2j5]

This movie should be shown in every black high school, discussed and paper written as part of their curriculum. Break the cycle !

[@ampmiller370]

The movie was not to resolve our hope in make believe happiness in this entertainment.. It's to make us aware!💯 #facts

[@tonyamartin1425]

bullshit! just like boys in the hood menace to society and new jack colors ect were to make you aware it just made criminals people emulate the character not the moral of the story this movie was cleaver trash as usual poison with a sweet taste how many black females have to be whores and strippers to entertain you? gansta rap music was to make us aware did it work?????????????????????????????

[@rkms5606]

EXACTLY. I feel like Dr Carr was trying to be too deep... It was a funny movie with lots of range and depth to help people be aware and answer the question ourselves.

[@dorisreid7900]

TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!!!!

[@dorisreid7900]

GREAT FACTSSSSSSSSSSSSS, THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

[@chriso1523]

Barbie and Oppenheimer is getting all the hype but this movie I believe deserves as much coverage.

[@mbubb4626]

Nope

[@queenqueen7789]

Agree 👍🏽

[@ianditwin7443]

Facts

[@Aurelia-g7h]

The apple pie is made out of cardboard small fabrics stop eating that shit

[@Aurelia-g7h]

Sister u may have need someone like you to partner up he sound loud and emotional

[@monicaeevans7579]

I watched 3 times. He brought up bitcoins, crypto currency, mind control, cloning, this movie had so many codes embedded in it. Chicken, grape juice , hair products , mind control . . . This movie was very funny but had some depth to it 💭. Clone Tyrone ❤😊

[@deandredunbar9618]

it's not codes lol it's direct societal messages

[@vintagechild4418]

@@deandredunbar9618totally agree, it was a funny interpretation of things going on right now. Perhaps an attempt to wake people up. This is our reality.

[@unc1589]

Hope it doesn’t have to opposite affect. When people believe they’re In dystopia they tend to act like it.

[@geoffg206]

A lot of depth. There were many layers to it.

[@nicolehunter5927]

Yes I watched it! Pay attention!

[@jolawil]

I watched this with my cousins and this was deeper than we thought. We talked long after the movie was over.

[@JadeW1111]

What yall talk about?

[@Hagar-yn8jm]

A couple thoughts: 1) this movie was just as deep as "Get Out", and 2) there is always a Black gatekeeper hidden in the shadows.

[@StatikFresh4]

💯

[@Jimmy1982Playlists]

I always felt Get Out was _crazy_ overrated... They Cloned Tyrone, on the other hand, was pretty great!

[@maxxastro]

Your close.

[@froggybug]

@@Jimmy1982Playlistsno… it was deep. Watch it again since you’ve seen this movie.

[@shakanuhglorie8444]

I wouldn’t be shocked if jay z was one lol

[@anthonymeans7439]

Thank you Dr Carr!You took the words right out of my mouth, "ASSIMILATION IS ANNIHILATION !"

[@onyx1686]

I think this statement should be a banner 👍🏿

[@AfroPick82]

Most sadly don't even understand what cultural assimilation is + involves

[@anderc00]

I was just about to say the same

[@Councils-Girl]

Folks have assimilated… can we say the divine 9

[@kelthe8thman661]

Not necessarily. I think of how Joseph was sold into slavery and how his God given gift propelled him to become Prince (ruler) of Egypt even though he was Hebrew. I doubt he was in Egypt pointing out all of the injustices committed by Pharaoh. Wisdom is navigating through life in a land that's not your own by worshiping your God and using the gifts he's given us. -- fight for civil rights? Yes, fight for equitable treatment - Yes - but let us not forget we can use our gifts too.

[@dominquelucas4971]

This movie is DEFINITELY a movie that our people should watch. It’s so many concepts that compels me. The church scene was powerful.

[@shadowess1961]

This movie was deep. Our kryptonite is fried chicken, music, easy money, relaxers, sugar...only we can stop the distraction because that's what it is, a distraction to keep us busy on the ground so that we can't fly. Some recognize it and break the trance while others stay comfortable in the obsession.

[@arthurinenadeem3197]

1 million black folks $10/mo is $10 million a month. We can have our own hospitals, hotels, farmlands towns BLMOBILIZE THE REAL B L M

[@Hagar-yn8jm]

Yup, exactly. Yoyo broke out of the trance even before they started investigating cause she was tryina leave to Memphis.

[@JadeW1111]

@@Hagar-yn8jm Forgive me if I am mistaken but she was the only one that wasn't cloned?

[@nashoneholmes1548]

@@JadeW1111 out of the three of them, she wasn't cloned

[@righteousindignation5104]

You forgot the milk toast Christianity ✝️

[@soyveritas8262]

I absolutely LOVED the movie! There's so much to unpack. It really requires more than one viewing for sure.

[@bougiequeen8261]

I’ll take my reparations in free healthcare, cleared debt, not having to pay taxes, free college tuition, land ownership…

[@geoffg206]

Respectfully, I STRONGLY suggest you watch this movie again. There are so many layers to it. This movie was deep. Even the music in the background. Everything has meaning. STRONG message in this movie.

[@kimberlyboker4448]

Strongly agree 💯

[@angelwright8465]

Strongly agree

[@candyringqueen3578]

I've seen it 7 times already! It's relative to what's happening today. It makes you look around your own neighborhood and analyze what you see.

[@AfricanRoots-gz9qt]

This film scared me and got me thinking twice... definitely a good movie and a great message .

[@shellih8302]

This movie deserves Oscars. Best original screenplay at least.

[@toniat8278]

I am with u Prof Hunter. This is an important movie. When I watched it I knew U & Dr. Carr would talk about this movie, especially the speech Keifer Sutherland made.👍🏽✌🏽🙏🏽 p.s. love Dr. Carr as the people’s professor♥️💯

[@qui-gonjinn6115]

This was a masterpiece, a style of its own. We see pieces of the last 4 decades. In this movie, they even shot this movie on real film.

[@Jimmy1982Playlists]

Fr?!? Love hearing about movies still being shot on film...

[@Ddmw471]

"The root of repair is self repair" thats a word from Dr Carr

[@jamaalnyc]

Love this deeper analysis. Y’all hit a lot of great points.

[@redthunderbird8117]

Yep... I am nourished!!!

[@bammthesuperpredator2622]

Excellent topic for discussion.

[@btbcc12859]

Erykah Badu singing “somebody cloned Tyrone” lyrics is something to listen to

[@ljett1849]

Thank you Prof and Dr. for the conversation and thoughts. I thought it was the best movie that I've seen in a long time. Thought-provoking, belly-laughs, cultural references and asks several important questions. Among them: Who are you? Are you who you say you are? Are you all that you ought to be? If that sounds familiar it is the Kawaida. Three Essential questions developed by Dr. Maulana Karenga. The movie also asks who and what are your idols -- the things you worship-- and who is controlling them and you? The movie surprised me in a good way.

[@cynthiajahi2339]

We need to continue asking ourselves those questions. This movie is parts of my beloved B- More.

[@quorraquar2677]

💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Watched it 3 times and watching it again tonight. My favorite movie of the year!

[@thefonsotube]

I JUST saw this and man o man is it good!! Social commentary is wonderful. Glad you two are talking about it.

[@darknlovelyslg]

This conversation is genius and spot on!

[@starlaks588]

It is brilliant! Let them believe we're ignorant, while behind the scenes we're making major moves and uniting amongst each other.

[@CharJudah]

Everybody I talk to fell asleep on this movie, including me, and had to re-watch it 😆

[@malekatahcampbell6326]

This is the most profound movie I've ever seen! Deep! I don't know how "they" allowed this to get out! Take heed and stay woke 👀

[@vickycollins1624]

Absolutely! Loved your . Stay woke my people, because more revaluation is coming and our people need to pay attention.

[@malekatahcampbell6326]

@@vickycollins1624 indeed

[@siriusakari6729]

In terms of black cinematography this movie definately should be held in high regard. I like how the people turned out to be their own saviors in the end.

[@TiffanyRayneOfficial]

I'm glad you said in the end being their own saviors. That's something I wish the black community would understand. None of these people are coming to save us, not these celebrities, not these politicians, not any of these figures our community idolize. We can save ourselves and probably will end up doing that in the end.

[@ejkboxing]

"Olympia Black" is the name of an author who writes science fiction books, mostly about aliens & artificial intelligence. He didnt just throw two words together for shits & giggles. These two are acting as if the director was just making a movie & all of the messages were just coincidences. He put those messages in the movie on purpose.

[@oneoone]

Yep. That’s what irked me the most about this breakdown video. Even their "assimilation/annihilation" segment was very condescending as if the director didn’t know the meanings of what he created. Of course he knew assimilation IS annihilation, that’s why the protagonist ultimately killed his original self in that scene.

[@soniaadams1828]

Thank you, Professor Hunter and Dr. Carr for sharing your insights on They Cloned Tyrone. I watched the movie twice. I reflected on some of the issues explored and creative choices made in the film. Viewers are immediately confronted with stereotypes embodied through the main characters. The writers Juel Taylor and Tony Rettenmaier evoked humor, pop-cultural references, music, and social community in an interesting way. They also provided an intersectional lens into how racial, gender, and class oppression condition the lives of the main characters. I appreciate that some R&B songs from the 80s and 90s were included in the movie, like René & Angela's "I'll Be Good." That is my jam!!!

[@JacquelineSanders-e2p]

the root of repair is self repair professor DR. Carr that's the truth

[@sachaarthurton6451]

I love this movie so much going on. You have to be a great listener and pay attention.

[@eddiet3026]

Fontaine's "I'm not real" hit me as we're all here, and we don't even know our true names.

[@rosejohnson8556]

Listen the dancing part got me too! It’s like you can’t help yourself 😂 good episode

[@CLK294]

Doc called it out real smooth

[@qwenmejia6547]

Loved it!!

[@e_vantuallythenomad6916]

Best line: “The root of repair is self repair”. Amen!

[@MaryamOwens]

The plan is to stop being so individualist and uplift ourselves economically. Keep our money inside, amass wealth and dominate our industries: beauty, music, entertainment, soul food, and basketball.

[@IndomitableAde]

I very much enjoyed the movie and yes, we've seen these topics addressed individually in movies and the documentary Good Hair, but not in this way. The movie is as well as if not better written than some of the movies Dr. Carr compared it to while managing to deliver a message and social commentary without being heavy-handed and overdone (looking at you, Bamboozled). The comedic chemistry between Jamie and Teyonah was fun to watch. John Boyega showed a depth and vulnerability that I hope we all get to see more of. The movie has a retro 70s tone and texture like a grainy Polaroid. The music's not bad either, although I did find some of the song lyrics to be a bit on the nose. And it is genuinely funny. It isn't often that a movie designed to make you think also makes you laugh out loud but that's what They Cloned Tyrone does. Enjoy. 💜

[@joelbreezy3116]

The thing about this podcast is that 300 years from now...people will look back and be able to get an accurate analysis of the CONTEXT of black in America...not just the cold facts...but the nuance and true context of the people refered to as...Negros. Salute to y'all both !!!!

[@dennistaylor6342]

Wow Dr. Carr makes a very good point. “Assimilation is annihilation”. I couldn’t have said it better. Facts when you sit back and think about it.

[@yazmina84]

I loved the movie! It was a fun sci-fi/fantasy with an important message without being preachy.

[@drvalpat1]

Very thoughtful and important analysis, this is why I turn to my favorite professors! The entire movie I was asking myself, who is Tyrone, so that final scene that my partner for 50 plus years missed because he thought the movie was over, was classic. So many hat tips to Black Pop Culture and cinema!!!!!!!

[@Gambit2483]

The fact this movie brings such dialog, especially to our newer generations, means it definitely succeeded on _some_ level. It doesn't hurt that it was also entertaining as all heck 😅

[@Phenique35]

I thought of General's Fried Chicken in Under Cover Brother. Love intelligent discussion, and this channel never fails to deliver❤.

[@Che1980s]

If I get reparations I'm taking my money and moving to Africa

[@ADAMOLOGY]

This movie had A LOT OF TRUTH in it!! Love this commentary

[@ballardvibes]

I enjoyed the movie. A lot to create conversation and deep thought. His comments about being responsible for drugs and death in the community, him training the young fellow to give him information, the 3 of them walking amongst the folks in the underground and not being seen, his older scientific self doing what he did with the cloning because the community let his brother die in the streets. It’s a lot to discuss. But, in the end, the main statement is “we can’t give up” and we must continue to help educate/save our children, sisters and brothers. We are more than pimps, whores and drug dealers. We can be scientists too, but hopefully not one with a grudge or spite. 🤔🤷🏽‍♂️

[@larrysatterwhite448]

Not a good movie, far from it, they can do so much better. Crap a whole lot of it.

[@ballardvibes]

@@larrysatterwhite448 that’s the beauty of opinions and we all receive things differently. Hope you have a good day

[@ecb42000]

@@ballardvibes haven't seen it but given the divergent opinions still have to check it out

[@TTjourney]

One of the writers of this movie was write ✍️ 😮

[@redraven_y2k]

The whole not being seen underground reminds me of invisible man.

[@jenisejackson5408]

It was so good. I am going to watch it again this weekend.

[@melissadiggs9814]

Superb discussion! Tyrone.

[@docej3025]

MAAAAAN... SAW IT! LOVED IT!

[@qwenmejia6547]

Yes I saw this movie!! Loved it!! Good laughs! Proud of you Jamie The Fox 🦊

[@MrTwindog4]

I liked the film, It was supposed to make people laugh and think. Yeah, they Cloned Tyrone , literally, but It is a metaphor Black thought and psychology of Black culture and how the US and the world, thinks of Black People in America 💯

[@no-mess46]

One might add.. it's what the U.S. continues to perpetuate about so called black people so that everyone thinks it, including said people.

[@DeEricSmith-sy3rx]

This is one of the best movie of our time, we need to see this movie.

[@darnellthomas8155]

Its funny how reperations is critiqued if given to African Americans but nobody said anything about 40+ billion of our tax dollars being given to Ukraine.

[@davidd4696]

trillions spent in the middle east, wasted.

[@ibibiotoiayinklee3480]

Powerful …. And thus … “we are, the algorithm”.

[@badzula93]

I think the message is to free your mind of the cycle, let go of the things that’s killing our community, it’ll bring some power back

[@localone1597]

Glad you discussed this movie. I had no intention of watching it because it looked like something I wouldn't be interested in. Now I plan to check it out.

[@ianditwin7443]

You should.

[@LGnLA]

Ha, I wasn't going to watch it for this EXACT reason... watched it last night, told everyone to 'watch it'!! A friend said, Carr & Hunter spoke about it, so I ran to hear their interpretation! Because wow just WOW...

[@sherethadaniels473]

Yes please watch it!!❤

[@It.Is.Already.Yours.]

I watched it and it was corny.

[@alonalove3118]

Don't bother best part is erykah badu cloned tyrone song

[@StatikFresh4]

Great conversation and sentiments . Salute to you both 🫡 You both are motivating me to read more books and to purchase more books . Now I’m going to buy a book shelf . Thanks for the aspiration my black king and queen Wattahh Tahhh

[@erlvng]

Yes, I watched it!!

[@Josh-rg6pe]

I've watched it like 10 times already I'm just like... Wtfff

[@redthunderbird8117]

This segment 5/5. Period!! Play that sax , brotha!

[@suukbang]

Man just hearing the dialogue between you 2 makes me wish i was there to have it. So enlightening. Thank you!

[@coveredNfavored]

Very good. Very much deeper than the surface. However, I just came across this video and haven’t heard much about this movie.

[@moweems5802]

A mashup of Groundhog Day, Invasion of The Body snatchers, Scooby Doo, Three The Hard Way, Coffy, The Matrix, Undercover Brother, Truman Show and Dark City. And it worked.

[@eleearts]

ITS A GREAT BIG CALL FOR UNITY AMONG US.

[@monicar8875]

It took me watching 4 times, re-winding. Juel Taylor is a genius!!! Movie is mind boggling. 1. Personifies History of stereotypes 2. Turns those stereotypes into realistic - everyday circumstances. 3. The so-called founders created a PERMANENT SLAVE BASED SOCIÉTÉ that sustains Black Indigenous Aboriginals' oppression 4. This Grand Experience for those who look like the so-called founders is barely functioning on paper- THEIR CODIFIED laws. Never intended for Black US Aboriginal (non-immagrants) to progressive 5. The neighborhood "Kings and Queens", knights, and ESPECIALLY Pawns FINALLY UNITE, solodify a goal to restore their souls. NINA SIMONE, BILLY HOLIDAY' "Strange Fruit" GENRE Movie.

[@josephbrownsr7777]

Great movie 💯

[@kennethdavis5309]

Much needed on a Monday Thanks...

[@REDD_Dragon_2024]

I think the Olympia Black phrase is referencing a sci-fi author who wrote "My human pet".

[@purpleness64]

I love this analysis!!

[@casynovids]

You missed it Dr.Carr, they are banding together at the end to destroy the system ,and the 3 heroes are headed to dismantle another cities network .... MEMPHIS ...

[@DecaturQue]

Preach good brother. I’m starting to like this KZbin channel.

[@DecaturQue]

My bad. You too sister.

[@KarenHunterShow]

no worries...it's all us.

[@tamekasmith1396]

Greetings Dr. Carr and Dr. Karen 😊Great commentary that I look forward to referencing when I view the film. The two of u are as insightful as you are complimentary to each other. I’m going to watch while asking myself who is the ‘we’?

[@joelhenry5489]

I don't understand Carr's criticism. This is why activists shouldn't be film critics. The film reflects the reality. The limited freedom does not resolve the crisis. That's REAL, not some utopian activist fantasy of what a happy ending should be.

[@Wulf82]

Those hair products for example have literally been linked to different causes of Cancer

[@kiaj.d.5855]

That church beat was Juvenile 😂

[@billyford7853]

I'm in worse shape than you Dr. Carr. I didn't know it was David Allen Greer until the credits rolled.

[@curlmebella]

Yeah ending was perfect to me, they interview the craziest in the crowd on TV as a representative of the people and then the rest of America is going on life as usual Same ol same ol

[@kelthe8thman661]

Finally saw the movie. Here are some of my takes on the movie. 1) Clone :: there is always some fool working to keep the neighborhood down. If one fool goes to jail or dies, there is another one in line to take his place 2) Watching us: Everything we do is tracked. All monetary transactions, all texts, tweets, likes. Everything watched on streaming platforms is tracked. Just to name a few 3) The food, oh the food. Need I say more. 4) The church. OMG, took me back to when I first starting attending. What a mess, no real teaching from the scriptures, men didn't teach the boys, women didn't teach the girls. So much to say about this movie.

[@blackempress2040]

Spot on....

[@arlenesmith1708]

Yes, these were the points my husband and I noticed AND prayed we wouldn't overlook!! No one is coming to save us so we better save ourselves!!

[@kelthe8thman661]

@@arlenesmith1708 Yep. And we need to stop wasting time on folks trying to convince them to study hard, work hard, save your money. A three strand cord is not easily broken. Study hard -- Work hard -- Save your money.

[@DeeDaKaang1]

This was a phenomenal movie

[@stellabrown909]

Fried chicken is poison? I enjoyed this movie. Very well made….it made you think.

[@herbertscott9575]

Amazing analysis

[@quietstorm6710]

Oh I was waiting on your comment on this Prof Hunter and Dr. Carr. I did say to myself....ok we're free ..now what....

[@kimpossible6654]

Loved the movie discussion of the concept of assimilation as annihilation- reminds. Me of what we see everywhere in the last 10 years or so of interracial relationships- deep film.

[@adnaloy9025]

We look at these movies as entertainment but many of them do have a message. Thank you for this discussion! I have been trying to watch this movie!! I wanted to pay attention, so I keep stopping it at the beginning. I'm going to watch it this weekend.

[@candyringqueen3578]

The church scene with David Allen Grier got me with that grape juice!

[@Deerych]

Lots of symbolism in the movie!

[@arthurinenadeem3197]

Had to watch it three times. I had to check myself and ask what stereotype did i possess Being Brainwashed. Knowledge of self will stop the bs. Bamboozled was just the good too!

[@lesliefountainwilliams5264]

Wow, that came across as a backhanded compliment.

[@The.Adept.Chamber]

'Transitional Justice' includes: Criminal Prosecutions, Truth Commissions, Reparations Programs and Various Types of Institutional Reforms.

[@aprilrobinson7713]

Just watched

[@jdamoormartinirossi791]

They Cloned Tyrone seemed to take heavily from Jordan Peele's "Us" movie. Less dark but touches on some of the same themes using clones. I also thought it was brilliant that none of main characters was named Tyrone and we didn't meet him until the very end. To emphasize scope and scale. That was a smart choice.

[@jobnieloliva5358]

It was better than US.

[@DavidWilliams-ep9vu]

US was not black facing and it was to European artsy. And I actually didn’t see US in they cloned Tyrone at all.

[@jdamoormartinirossi791]

@@DavidWilliams-ep9vu European artsy? Why, because it made people think, and wasn't mindless storytelling by the numbers?

[@autumnloveent]

​@@jdamoormartinirossi791i think they're saying the style and more than the plot or story

[@josephlowe7064]

I'm sorry I got more of a Spike Lee Bamboozled vibe with Drop Squad twist. The acting and writing were excellent.

[@courtneydean69]

I also think the ending represents what our people have done after every so-called social and racial achievement. Celebrate then fall asleep.

[@KarenHunterShow]

yes!

[@DiscussionsWithDena]

EXACTLY!!! THE MOVIE STATED THE OBVIOUS N RESOLVED NOTHING🤷🏾‍♀️

[@annmariebusu9924]

I watched it yesterday. I found it ok. The ideas were covered before especially the fried chicken. I thought it was funny they didn't realize the sister was wearing a wig 😂. Loved Erica singing at the end. I knew all the words. As for the movie message its frustrating I feel like life is wearing me down.

[@m.worthy]

*_"I thought it was funny they didn't realize the sister was wearing a wig 😂"_* Approx. 20 minutes in, within Teyonah's second scene with Foxx _(in the car with Fontaine and Slick)_ , Slick says to Yo-Yo : *_"Keep talkin'...I'mma slip out this Goodwill suit and slap that fake-a$$ wig off..."_* 🎬

[@sherethadaniels473]

​@@m.worthy😂😂😂😂

[@SeeknDaTruth]

That movie was interesting. More interesting is seeing the various locations in southeast Atlanta where a portion of the movie was taped. Joseph E. Boone Blvd. (fmrly Simpson Rd - The beginning scene, the old school cars driving scene), Lakewood Avenue (the convenient store scenes), and the 'free' scene at the end (I think Jonesboro Rd). There were many movies taped in Atlanta, but this is the first time I saw a movie taped in those aforementioned locations. The three main actors did a great job. I like the movie's subliminal messages as what the pair described.

[@danteinferno9408]

I can't belive this was on Netflix,cause the mess uo everything.....this movie should b in theaters.

[@1LadyChat1]

Saw and loved. I first thought of 'Black Dynamite' then another movie or two, but it came out with a loud message of it's own.

[@yvetteanderson5504]

I think clone is code for clown. There are many clowns in our communities walking around like one big joke after another.😒

[@sty723]

This movie is a realization of what people used to think was sci-fi back in the day!