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They 'Declared War' on Work From Home. The Results Were Awful.

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@Fads
@Fads Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching :) As usual, this is edited from a livestream (I stream on KZbin every Friday at 7.30pm EST) Please let me know your thoughts/experiences on remote work/hybrid/in office - I'm always curious to hear what your experiences are like!
@semmu93
@semmu93 Ай бұрын
hey whats your twitch? its not linked anywhere (this video's description, youtube profile page, anything)
@cute1141
@cute1141 Ай бұрын
when are you dropping a discord server?
@MadsterV
@MadsterV Ай бұрын
Not mentioned: work from home vastly reduces traffic
@ihadmyfill
@ihadmyfill Ай бұрын
Excellent Video!!
@Fads
@Fads Ай бұрын
@@semmu93 I only stream on youtube! Don't currently stream on twitch :)
@sunnohh
@sunnohh Ай бұрын
The irony is I don’t get shit done in the office
@cardoman3986
@cardoman3986 Ай бұрын
And they know that. This is about investments, perception and short term profits. No one gives a shit about the meat paste that gets smashed under the boots of the rich. As long as there is more meat paste to take its place to keep the gears turning.
@nyllie6239
@nyllie6239 Ай бұрын
nobody does and nobody even wants to. It's a kill time event for 8h a day
@kapasitorcpt9249
@kapasitorcpt9249 Ай бұрын
But the 1hour meetings that can be done in 5 are needed 😂😂😂
@kapasitorcpt9249
@kapasitorcpt9249 Ай бұрын
In 5 min*
@raze2012_
@raze2012_ Ай бұрын
Yeah, they spend 15 years+ making the office less accomadating and then they wonder why so many people don't want to bother going into what's little more than a giant room with tiny walls that's loud AF as opposed to their own home office setup.
@detritiv0re144
@detritiv0re144 Ай бұрын
"culture" = coercion and control.
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 Ай бұрын
CORRECT
@milliedragon4418
@milliedragon4418 Ай бұрын
Culture more like cult
@unocualqu1era
@unocualqu1era Ай бұрын
So basically peer pressure when you're out of high school
@blogdesign7126
@blogdesign7126 Ай бұрын
culture = "The CEO is a dictator type stuff. "
@HungerSTR1KE
@HungerSTR1KE Ай бұрын
So true. It's all about them implementing EVEN MORE surveillance. It's not enough to watch our every keystroke. They want to know exactly where we are every minute of the workday. It's disgusting. The workplace has turned into a surveillance machine. It's not surprise to me more and more people are dropping out of the workforce. It's causing mental illness, divorce, unhappiness, abuse, low self-esteem. And they fire you at the drop of a hat whenever the numbers go down. You're almost as likely to be fired if you're a top performer as if you're a bottom performer. Employers just want to breed mediocrity and conformity.
@granpaNurgle
@granpaNurgle Ай бұрын
My company sold off every physical location when covid hit, turned to fully 100% remote work, purchased one(1) head office building after covid and have been like that ever since. Record growth and profits last 2 years. Even considering the pandemic fallout - we save millions each month now. Physical retail space is crazy expensive and return to work is literally 100% about maintaining property value.
@Mandelasmind
@Mandelasmind Ай бұрын
New commercial leases are getting signed all the time, most companies don’t even own their HQs anymore 😂 RTO is not because of property values, it’s a solution to the culture problem. Younger workers don’t get trained and retention rates are decreasing with this WFH stuff.
@HighTide.Sunset
@HighTide.Sunset Ай бұрын
@@Mandelasmindretention rates have been declining for the last 20 years bro. It’s the fastest way for a pay increase for over 90% of corporate workers.
@headlibrarian1996
@headlibrarian1996 Ай бұрын
It’s about control not real estate. It’s also about forcing people to leave without an official layoff or paying severance.
@carystevensky
@carystevensky Ай бұрын
@@headlibrarian1996But now a lot of talent is leaving due to being forced back 2x per week. And the remaining staff, including myself, are working 10-14 hour days everyday. Now we all want to leave. Our clients are pissed due to a decline in quality service. So much for my corporations strategy to maximize profits. My advice to them is give back office workers full remote opportunities. They can also hire globally this way too to increase talent pool. Not to mention one of the main competitors has a full remote work force.
@JRCGuitarist
@JRCGuitarist Ай бұрын
@@MandelasmindFrom what I’m seeing, there are folx acknowledging that companies don’t really train well even when it comes to in office workers, due to companies typically expecting workers to come already experienced to an extent, the argument being the cost of training. As to retention, my guess is that would have something more to do with how WFH workers are managed. I’ve seen some sources where managers are teaching others have to better manage their WFH workers.
@stanktatiousd7732
@stanktatiousd7732 Ай бұрын
Local economies suffer when locals have no money. Working remote reduces wear and tear on vehicles putting more money into locals pockets, most adults nowadays when they have extra money tend to splurge mostly on food; the argument that local restaurants are suffering is a short term issue that resolves itself once locals are able to get back on their feet and contribute to the economy. Working remote isn’t killing local economies, poor wages are. Remote work will also reduce emissions, less wear and tear on roadways, reduced highway litter, and reduced vehicular deaths all of which would save tax payers BILLIONS.
@MasterGhostf
@MasterGhostf Ай бұрын
Agreed. the lack of wages is hurting the economy. Most of the money is getting funneled into the Bezos, Musks, and Trumps of the world.
@TarsonTalon
@TarsonTalon Ай бұрын
Corporations claim to be green, right up until the point they start losing money...
@MisterCynic18
@MisterCynic18 Ай бұрын
The local New York economy will not resolve itself because many people who work in NYC do not live there, and people who do will leave and just work remotely because it's absurdly overpriced. Their economy will only keep crashing.
@wagnersouza4463
@wagnersouza4463 Ай бұрын
So, basically remote work is for white collar middle class jobs, because local jobs will be 9-5 jobs. Low income still the same, and service jobs too, because these type of work just doesnt work remotly.
@Mrfinch9999
@Mrfinch9999 Ай бұрын
They do not care. It is about power and control, not what is best.
@FlakAttack0
@FlakAttack0 Ай бұрын
I work in Ottawa. I intentionally do not spend any money downtown in protest of the Chamber of Commerce and Ottawa Board of Trade lobbying to return workers to offices. I haven't spent any money there for ~2 years now, and I will keep doing so until remote work comes back. If it never comes back, so be it: my money stays in my wallet.
@FacePlant1324
@FacePlant1324 Ай бұрын
It is honestly BS I don't blame you.
@rocky_wang
@rocky_wang Ай бұрын
Well I guess you don’t have much money to begin with so they don’t really care😂😂😂
@TheDrizzCAKEN
@TheDrizzCAKEN Ай бұрын
@@rocky_wang Neanderthal response.
@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1 Ай бұрын
​​@@TheDrizzCAKEN actually its the smartest response in here, youre projecting now
@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1 Ай бұрын
​@theinternetbutlerwhat? He exposed your consumer fallacy, not other way around
@allahuvonaugustera7895
@allahuvonaugustera7895 Ай бұрын
TL;DR: bosses hate workers and want them to subsidize their egos, their real estate stock options and their friends's restaurants, gas stations and shopping centers. All of this while paying wages that won't cover rent, food and commuting. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 EDIT: 1400 likes wtf
@Marqan
@Marqan Ай бұрын
That seems accurate, yeah.. and all that despite every study showing the huge benefits of remote work.
@i-love-comountains3850
@i-love-comountains3850 Ай бұрын
​@@Marqan Between the studies proving WFH is better for the company and the employees, and the knowledge that dramatically increasing prices makes goods and services unaffordable...THEY KNOW....they know exactly what they are doing and what will happen because of it.
@DogginsFroggins
@DogginsFroggins Ай бұрын
Why wouldn't you watch his vids though, they are great.
@TheGhost2612000
@TheGhost2612000 Ай бұрын
Remote work causes gentrification. Change my mind.
@Billy_Rizzle
@Billy_Rizzle Ай бұрын
@@DogginsFroggins sometimes these TLDR/W’s briefs can let you know if a video is worth watching.
@omegaelement
@omegaelement Ай бұрын
"Corporations aren't stupid"... I wouldn't be too sure about that. Most of them are slowly chipping away at their own foundations in the blind pursuit of short term profits and the ability to just have power over workers. If things keep being left unchecked, a lot of corporations are going to start collapsing due to having little to no customers down the line. They neither want to pay people good wages, nor run the companies themselves in a way that properly facilitates long term stability. There are a number of reasons they want people to return to the office, and very few of them are because the people at the top are smart.
@jambott5520
@jambott5520 Ай бұрын
And what happens when said collapse happens? Who benefits and who loses? Because when the ceo gets a huge severence they for sure ain't losing.
@omegaelement
@omegaelement Ай бұрын
Aye, that's the worst part. The people at the top will all get off scot-free with golden parachutes, leaving the workers and their successors to suffer the consequences. Hell, that happens already.
@laughinggiraffe9176
@laughinggiraffe9176 Ай бұрын
They don’t always maximize profits like people think, it seems. Their are systematic errors due to the company consisting of individuals doing what’s best for themselves.
@Ella-g2m
@Ella-g2m Ай бұрын
Like Boeing shooting themselves in the foot for temporary profit. Now their planes are falling out of the sky.
@MustbeTheBassest
@MustbeTheBassest Ай бұрын
"Stupid" can be subjective. What might be good for you might be bad for the company or the people around you. I hate those people, but I can't deny their logic.
@taln0reich
@taln0reich Ай бұрын
it's basically the following: 1.) real estate. Commercial real estate is a common answer, but it goes far beyoind that to basically all real estate. The value of a lot of residential real estate is also tied up in how close it is to employment opportunities. In a world where WFH becomes common, this would be far less the the case, meaning a significant decrease in residential property values. 2.) control of employees. With WFH being rare, employees are restricted in looking for alternative jobs in a relatively small geographic area since relocating is not easy or cheap. This forces employees to tolerate worse compensation and conditions. 3.) making free time rarer. Commuting takes a lot of time, time which can not be used to organize for political change. Furthermore, it increases the need to save on time, meaning consumers are driven to value saving time over saving money, thus driving consumerism. 4.) transportation. A lot of car owners primary use of their car is for the work commute. If WFH becomes common, the economics of car ownership change significantly, causing a significant decline in car ownership. Thing is, the car industry is a huge part of the economy (in my country it's the biggest industry - just imagine what would go down if suddenly the need for cars halfed)
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow Ай бұрын
Good points but #4 isn't really true, you actually need a car more when living in a remote location (cheaper housing - good option if you work remotely)
@ssjlkrillin
@ssjlkrillin Ай бұрын
​@Mic_Glow I agree. I do not live in a major metropolitan area, so I have to drive to virtually everything, because nothing is within walking distance. But, I prefer it this way, because I have my quietude and no worries with crime.
@TheGhost2612000
@TheGhost2612000 Ай бұрын
WFH creates gentrification. If WFH didn't create that, I would not be opposed to it. You can't have city folk, making city wages, move into a low income area and push out the "natives". It is great for the WFH folk and people trying to sell their house and move some other place. However, it hurts the other people by putting them in a hardship. Then again life isn't fair.
@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430
@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430 Ай бұрын
@Mic_Glow - You're not wrong, but I find this to be more of an American factor, with how silly the infrastructure makes everyone not living in the heart of a downtown city dependent on cars. I think what OP's 4th point would hold true in places that aren't so nigh maliciously spread out.
@jackdeniston6150
@jackdeniston6150 Ай бұрын
Wfh, get paid less. Real estate pricing will change. I live by the sea, prices here will increase. People still want to live in cities, we like to get together.
@wasabininja714
@wasabininja714 Ай бұрын
My job has us come in the office 2-3 days a week. I'm the only member of my team in my area, and the people at my office, we rarely ever work with. As a result I contribute literally nothing to being in the office vs being at home, in fact the company loses work from me because travel time is still work time. It makes no sense
@jegerslvjegers5380
@jegerslvjegers5380 Ай бұрын
Here many start ups have an edge. To limit start ups popping, in the USA big companies especially in IT force non compete, even if it is not needed otherwise.
@hsk2978
@hsk2978 Ай бұрын
I'm in the office like 5 times a year. That's usually the most unproductive day ever. Most of the time I listen to non-work-related bullshit and smalltalks, and wait for meetings with no productive outcome. And I think about all the work that needs to be done the whole time...
@nyanko8972
@nyanko8972 Ай бұрын
I think non competes are illegal now in the US though?
@esteemedmortal5917
@esteemedmortal5917 Ай бұрын
That’s generous that your company considers your commute as part of your work time!
@RedShipsofSpainAgain
@RedShipsofSpainAgain Ай бұрын
​@@hsk2978 That's exactly how I feel when they want me to come into the office once a week. It's just sitting in meetings listening to middle-management talk and talk and talk to justify their job, and all the while, I'm distracted thinking about all the work that I could be getting done if only I wasn't forced into an office, and that I'm going to have to get done the next day that I'm working back in my remote location where I can actually get things done without all the BS distractions and pointless meetings. My days in the physical office are by far my least productive days by a long shot. But those commercial real estate stocks have to go up, right? Seeing as how much the C-suite has invested in them as part of their investments and retirement plan. Can't let those capital gains go to waste, now can we lol?
@SenatorFreddyQuimby
@SenatorFreddyQuimby Ай бұрын
Tho only logic behind a forced return, is so commercial property owners aren't impacted
@jjwhittle8873
@jjwhittle8873 Ай бұрын
This is definitely an under-discussed cause. So much cash was pumped into commercial estates pre-financial crash, the value never really recovered post-crash and post-covid. So many of the huge office estates built in UK cities over the last decade struggle to get tenants.
@burazfly
@burazfly Ай бұрын
No, it's not. As stated in this video. The issue is that people who don't leave their houses have more frugal and constrained living habits. If this continues, it will bring down the economy faster than any automation could have ever done. If you want to see more economical crises, just keep people working from home. I am probably the worst spender, so I know if people lived like me, there would be no jobs for anyone
@Jokin_vaan
@Jokin_vaan Ай бұрын
​@@burazfly degrowth is good actually
@darkcoderuk
@darkcoderuk Ай бұрын
The irony is that forcing RTO and cramming everyone into these cities makes the birth rate plummet, which is the biggest issue for the future. Oh well, at least commercial real estate and other economic numbers remain good... for now!
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 Ай бұрын
@burazfly if people have money, they spend that money. Other than below a certain point of wealth, at least. So yeah, maybe low income people working from home would save until they had a healthy emergency fund instead of living pay cheque to pay cheque. But once they have that security, they will look at the money building up in their accounts and start thinking of all the nice things they could by with that money. And then they'll start spending it. It won't be in the same places as they spent their money before. On their homes, or local to their homes instead of in city centres. But it'll still get spent. The issue organisations like the chambers of commerce have is that they represent businesses that already exist, so any change to where money is spent will hurt a lot of them. It will create or enlarge other businesses, but those don't exist yet, so can't lobby for their future advantage. This isn't a matter of a objective financial crisis, just a changing of the status quo. It will be a crisis for those companies that can only exist because of office workers being crammed into cities durin the day, but will lead to economic boom for the new businesses that will rise up to fulfil the new demands
@GlitchedVision
@GlitchedVision Ай бұрын
that's amusing... "we screwed up and designed cities no one wants to work in so how do we fix it? simple, just force them to come back and work here anyway because we have the money and they need it to live :D"
@TarsonTalon
@TarsonTalon Ай бұрын
Humans: *Return to simple living off the land, thus not needing the money Society: *Surprised pikachu face Also Society: *Doubles down and tries to punish anyone living without it, starting with the Amish
@mrsearaphim4077
@mrsearaphim4077 Ай бұрын
This is a way more communist way to do things than these "pro-capitalist" corporations would like to admit
@BlownMacTruck
@BlownMacTruck Ай бұрын
Cities aren’t simply “designed for work”. That’s you not understanding the issue. Not to mention this isn’t a “city only” thing at all.
@cardoman3986
@cardoman3986 Ай бұрын
Bingo
@iboofer
@iboofer Ай бұрын
@@BlownMacTruck A lot of these jobs are out in suburbs and off the beaten path. Making them a bit more centrally located would possibly make commuting less of a pain in the rear.
@ArcDragoon
@ArcDragoon Ай бұрын
Remote work also kills the auto industry. If people aren't driving to work, they use less gas. This kills any and all reasons for freeways, highways, and how our infrastructure has been built. Remote work makes decades of policies look incredibly stupid in hindsight. And instead of adapting to the change, they would rather have everyone go back to how it was and worse.
@welfare_baybee
@welfare_baybee Ай бұрын
lmao there's plenty of other reasons to have a road infrastructure than just commuting to work.
@ArcDragoon
@ArcDragoon Ай бұрын
@@welfare_baybee Not to the point where you need that many lanes. Hell you could even argue at this point that military exercises could be done from home with our current system of drones.
@taln0reich
@taln0reich Ай бұрын
@@welfare_baybee sure, there is a substantial portion of road traffic not work commute related, but work commute is the lions share of road traffic. Why else do you think rush hour is so predictably alligned with the start and end times of the workday?
@simon3037
@simon3037 Ай бұрын
Plus, more people staying home increases the need for walkable infrastructure. It forces money to flow into cities that are actually habitable without reliance on a car. And investing into creating those environments will cost money, money that would rather be hogged and sapped from the working class.
@bazzatron9482
@bazzatron9482 Ай бұрын
It's no wonder they're so desperate to shoehorn LLMs into replacing humans - human beings will have to take a bum deal just to get enough work to live, stripped of all their agency they will have to live the way they're told. It makes me laugh when you hear the right rhetoric of "live in the pod", whilst they seemingly don't realise that they're making four or five hundred dollar/month payments on their very own F150 pod.
@christinewatson1989
@christinewatson1989 Ай бұрын
What seldom gets discussed is how thousands of unemployed disabled people or people who have been on SSI were able to become gainfully employed during the pandemic. Remote work breaks down most of the barriers disabled people face when it comes to being employed. Remote = equity for disabled folk and we are NEVER going back.
@xenxander
@xenxander Ай бұрын
the handicapped isn't the reason this is a good idea, it was a beneficial side effect of it. However they can return to what they were doing before. The shift again to people in general is upturning.
@christinewatson1989
@christinewatson1989 Ай бұрын
@@xenxander "Return to what they were doing before"? You mean homeless, having to re-apply for SSDI, wait years for re-approval etc. What a retarded take.
@hellfire0332
@hellfire0332 Ай бұрын
@@xenxander "return to what they were doing before". They were receiving government assistance that YOU help pay for. Is that really the talking point against remote work you want to go with? Yes, let's return to work where we now have to spend more money to commute, eat out, etc., while also paying more in taxes to support people who can't work anymore. Great idea!
@xenxander
@xenxander Ай бұрын
@@hellfire0332 I didn't argue against remote work. I said employment of the hadicapped is a positive side effect, but wasn't the goal.
@keldor8302
@keldor8302 Ай бұрын
There's actually a group (forgot the name). That is pursuing legal recourse against companies on this premise. They are making the claim that, employees hired for jobs that are disabled or have some other impairment. Who cannot work from the office. And we're hired on the pretext that they wouldn't need to. Are essentially being discriminated against. When terminated as a result of these 'return to work' requirements. It's going to take time to see where things land on this. But the news isn't going to cover the story. For obvious reasons, unfortunately.
@jacobe2995
@jacobe2995 Ай бұрын
corpo speak should be a crime.
@objective7042
@objective7042 Ай бұрын
Don't forget politicians speak too
@MadsterV
@MadsterV Ай бұрын
@@objective7042 that's double speak
@Helikzhan-s7p
@Helikzhan-s7p Ай бұрын
@@objective7042 Pols are snakes. The forked tongue is so they can lick two buttholes at once. Their corpo buddies and their favorite foreign nation.
@deanchur
@deanchur Ай бұрын
@jacobe2995 You just need to look at things differently. After all, In today's rapidly evolving landscape, it is imperative that you cultivate a mindset that embraces alternative perspectives to harness the full potential of you capabilities. By fostering synergy with others, you not only enhance collaboration but also unlock innovative solutions that may have previously gone unnoticed. It is essential to approach challenges with a holistic viewpoint, allowing for the synergy between diverse ideas and approaches to flourish, thereby driving us towards your strategic objectives. Ultimately, re-evaluating your methodologies through a lens of synergy will empower you to achieve unprecedented success and elevate your personal impact.
@PnutPres380
@PnutPres380 Ай бұрын
niggasoit in iwoa e😂😂
@Dav-jj2jb
@Dav-jj2jb Ай бұрын
I'm currently watching this in an empty office, drinking coffee. It's nice and quiet.
@Gumbier_Than
@Gumbier_Than Ай бұрын
To solitude and tranquility, friend. 🥂
@waltblackadar4690
@waltblackadar4690 Ай бұрын
I'm a manager and the company I work at is a bit of an outlier. We've had remote work for many years. For instance, I haven't worked in an office in about a dozen years. I manage people. If you need to be in the office to manage you either suck as a manager or you have the wrong people (I'm talking about professional personnel).. Are there times that being in an office could be beneficial? Sure, but they're few and far between. You can create a great culture remotely. You don't need to be in person for that. In fact, I'd argue that it's easier because you don't have to deal with all the little quirks that comes with in-office work (the Lunch Thief, the Nose Blower, the Loud Radio Player, the Loud Talker, the War of the Thermostat, etc.). The RTO movement is about control and a lack of leadership.
@Claire-gy5cv
@Claire-gy5cv Ай бұрын
You're so right!
@thebootjournal6037
@thebootjournal6037 Ай бұрын
Exactly. I have worked from home for years before pandemic. My team was/is remote. When I worked in the office there were far too many "butt in the chair, they must be working" managers, and it was about ego for crappy managers. Also, when I hear local restaurants near offices suffer from wfh, I say, no if their food is actually good, people will still find a way to go there. My other thought is when people do work in the office, and they are laid off, are the local restaurants and corporate real estate owners rushing in to save those employees? No, they are not. It's time to develop an economy built around wfh. Companies that have phased out work from home deserve to go under.
@PhanieDaemonia
@PhanieDaemonia Ай бұрын
THIS. EXACTLY. A good manager knows whether their teams needs to be in the office physically or whether the job can be done remotely; and a great manager is able to manage their team either way. It should NOT be mandated by higher ups who have absolutely no idea of what the actual work even looks like.
@versiewlw
@versiewlw Ай бұрын
If you were to write a book with your wisdom in remote management, I would buy it! Please keep us updated 🕺
@PhanieDaemonia
@PhanieDaemonia Ай бұрын
@@versiewlw Ah! That would be a great idea. One of the factor driving return to office is the lack of knowledge on HOW to remote manage employees. Proper training in this area could potentially goes a long way towards long-term acceptance of hybrid/remote work.
@Lithdren
@Lithdren Ай бұрын
If they want a lively downtown, tear down all the useless office buildings and put up some damn homes/condos! I'd gladly live downtown and not out in the middle of nowhere, but I cant afford to live anywhere else. Im 20 minutes from the nearest pizza store or grocery, everything is Dollar General and gas stations. The remote work is the only thing that lets me live cheaply enough to afford what little I already have. If they take that away, there's nothing else left.
@EggBastion
@EggBastion Ай бұрын
How dare you still have something left!
@EggBastion
@EggBastion Ай бұрын
See, I'm not much interseted in _living_ downtown but I'd sure like to go at least sometimes. Around 2005 - 2010 I'd ride my bike 15 miles there and back to get turkish food and tea at place ran by a guy I used to work with. Maybe only a few times a year. But even that got too expensive. More than a decade ago. Nothing left to give man. Maybe only hope? And not much of that either.
@freeman37
@freeman37 Ай бұрын
Or some nice parks, for that matter!
@r.pres.4121
@r.pres.4121 4 күн бұрын
Both cities and suburbs need to stop approving plans for more office buildings and start pursuing mixed use developments.
@Gredddfe
@Gredddfe Ай бұрын
I was literally told by an older retired fellow, whose savings are tied up in commerical real estate, that I was actively harming him by working remotely. I told him that I would not sacrifice my mental health to prop up his investment portfolio.
@TheFranchiseCA
@TheFranchiseCA Ай бұрын
He's being harmed passively, you're being harmed actively.
@Starfish987
@Starfish987 Ай бұрын
Oh no. Guess he's not that good of an investor if office space is the only thing he can think of. He could renovate it into some other type of business
@Gredddfe
@Gredddfe Ай бұрын
@@Starfish987 I think it was his managed fund rather than him investing directly, but yeah your point about portfolio diversity is well taken.
@Content_Deleted
@Content_Deleted Ай бұрын
If I have to hear a corporation say the word "culture" one more time I am actually going to have some choice words
@dawls07
@dawls07 Ай бұрын
Don’t forget “Collaboration”
@57ashdot
@57ashdot Ай бұрын
@@dawls07 🤮
@yaelz6043
@yaelz6043 Ай бұрын
They need total dominance, that requires you to physically be there at their beck and call.
@TarsonTalon
@TarsonTalon Ай бұрын
Because if you aren't, that gives you time to plot against them...at least in their warped view of the world.
@MisterCynic18
@MisterCynic18 Ай бұрын
They just demand you work longer at home since you don't have to travel, and they'll have screentime monitoring so they know you're glued to the desk at their service for the whole time. Your house will become the new office space and you will never again know sanctuary from your overlords.
@laughinggiraffe9176
@laughinggiraffe9176 Ай бұрын
I can see how you’d be harder to monitor, especially if you have a second computer or even a cellphone that they don’t know about.
@MrFrankEast
@MrFrankEast Ай бұрын
@@laughinggiraffe9176 But if the work is getting done at the same rate because of your more relaxed environment what does it matter???? I never understood this, if I produce the same if not better work results while im at work why do they care if im playing candy crush while i do it???? Its simply about control and ego, its about not wanting you to do anything except work even though theyd get more money just not worrying about it. IF someone isn't producing regardless, fire them.
@mikikiki
@mikikiki Ай бұрын
Beckoned call
@MagicEye117
@MagicEye117 Ай бұрын
*company sees employees are happy* Company: Yeah, that doesn’t work for me, brother.
@forman208
@forman208 9 күн бұрын
Lmao
@XiaoMoli7844
@XiaoMoli7844 Ай бұрын
I have a disability that makes sitting very painful, I've been very frustrated with these return to office mandates. I recently started a new job on a remote contract, but it was really hard finding a company that would accommodate for me because most were set on a hybrid style. It was really disheartening how the RTO was more important than actual human beings :(
@Ella-g2m
@Ella-g2m Ай бұрын
They are doing it intentionally to shake people with disabilities and chronic illness from their ranks, because you cost them too much in sick days and insurance, so they believe. RTO is legalized discrimination. It isn't a side effect--ruining your life is their goal. They want you dead in a gutter.
@TheHappybunny671
@TheHappybunny671 Ай бұрын
It can be possible to request an ADA accommodation to help you work remotely if possible!
@XiaoMoli7844
@XiaoMoli7844 Ай бұрын
@@TheHappybunny671 I'm in the UK! I am American though, and on both sides of the pond, I've found if you bring up working remotely fully when interviewing, it can make it difficult to get moved on to the next interview stage, and it's very hard to prove that's why an employer passed you up :')
@PhoenixAngel429
@PhoenixAngel429 Ай бұрын
Same. I have epilepsy so driving is too risky, public transportation is unreliable and walking is dangerous (US obviously) but I'm not some invalid. Remote work allows me more options than be a leech on my family. I need someone to drive me and so my distance is limited. Remote work removes this burden
@PhoenixAngel429
@PhoenixAngel429 Ай бұрын
​@@TheHappybunny671 I don't hold much faith in it. :(
@DonoVideoProductions
@DonoVideoProductions Ай бұрын
If the boss can't see you in your cube, you're not working. Plain and simple, that's it. It's about control.
@PhanieDaemonia
@PhanieDaemonia Ай бұрын
I had a boss (pre-pandemic) told me exactly that when I asked for a SINGLE DAY working remotely so I could concentrate on a specific task that kept getting interrupted while I was working in the office. His word were basically they he would prefer me at the office watching TV than at home being productive.
@DonoVideoProductions
@DonoVideoProductions Ай бұрын
@PhanieDaemonia It's sick. I hope you moved on from that zoo.
@PhanieDaemonia
@PhanieDaemonia Ай бұрын
@@DonoVideoProductions Better than that: he did! And I quickly proceeded to having the most productive and successful year of my career. Bad boss are definitely the biggest productivity-killer you can get.
@DonoVideoProductions
@DonoVideoProductions Ай бұрын
@PhanieDaemonia Congrats! I love happy endings!
@ShadowSolaris
@ShadowSolaris Ай бұрын
I am Canadian public servant and this video just made me subscribe to your channel. You are spot on about everything. And what is the funniest about the situation is that many regional offices are away from commerces: no restaurants, no shopping centre, nothing close. Our only coffee shop has closed years ago and has no intention of coming back. Yet employees are expected to be warm bodies in our bed bug and mice ridden offices...all of this because of the situation of the city of Ottawa relying too much on public servants for their fast foods chains. Your survey about public opinion of public servants is also spot on...and it's really sad. Many public servants are very hard working employees and they take their work very seriously, even though what we do every day is administering important (but not very glamour) programs for the population. Yet it's a popular sport to pretend we are lazy and not productive. After the currently ongoing job cuts, I bet they will wonder why they are waiting even more on the line and ask for even more job cuts. It's a never-ending cycle of hate.
@BoldFollower
@BoldFollower Ай бұрын
I work for one of the largest banks in the world. All the employee surveys say overwhelmingly workers want to be wfh. GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!
@jokerpilled2535
@jokerpilled2535 Ай бұрын
I noticed the people who get mad at me for not having a “traditional job” aren’t usually bosses, it’s mostly people who invested their entire life into getting an office job (aka bootlickers).
@pyronderman9055
@pyronderman9055 Ай бұрын
sush they might hear you
@aygwm
@aygwm Ай бұрын
Crab in a bucket
@Ytorisv
@Ytorisv Ай бұрын
They be "punch the air" mad😂. It's all BS anyway.
@nilsmafr
@nilsmafr Ай бұрын
Replace "culture" with "control" and we get a truthful letter in english.
@ragingjaguarknight86
@ragingjaguarknight86 Ай бұрын
Take off the last 3 letters of the word "culture" and you'll understand what these companies really mean...
@aurielwillette4188
@aurielwillette4188 Ай бұрын
I have spent nearly 1,700 days in isolation with my wife, who has a primary immunodeficiency. Her contracting COVID would result in severe handicap or death. Remote work where possible is not only a pro-worker approach with clear economic benefit, but ensures that my wife is not sacrificed on the dais of quarterly growth and "vibes".
@Paul9
@Paul9 Ай бұрын
My partner is immunosuppressed and I had worked from home prior to the pandemic. When they wanted everyone back in the office I was treated as if I was lying and had a fight on my hands. The best thing is I had enough of a ‘fck you’ fund to run the HR gauntlet, they really don’t know what to do with someone not scared of losing their job. I just shut down any negotiation and asked them if they would take responsibility for either putting my partner at risk or causing stress to myself. They eventually gave up and realised it was too much trouble for them to pursue it. 😂
@Claire-gy5cv
@Claire-gy5cv Ай бұрын
Bravo!
@Sulfuron41
@Sulfuron41 Ай бұрын
"Stimulating" downtown economies was very telling for me. What about all those "local" and "small" businesses that benefited from the workers who worked from home? How is it different to the economy as a whole if a worker goes to a small town restaurant as opposed to a downtown restaurant? Guess those small towns don't actually matter to the windy politicians despite what they claim...
@gadaboutgriffon4446
@gadaboutgriffon4446 Ай бұрын
Small towns are hard to control. Think how they vote compared to how big cities vote.
@nsgdesign
@nsgdesign Ай бұрын
Spot on. Clearly somebody thinks that the stuff you don't buy downtown anymore just magically appears out of thin air in your house. Or they are just liars.
@michinwaygook3684
@michinwaygook3684 Ай бұрын
I personally don't care if downtown Toronto becomes defunct due to remote working. A major problem with Canada is that the majority of our residents live in major cities. Very little development, outside the exploitation of natural resources, happens outside our major cities. incentivizing more people to move to our major cities means housing prices will continue to rise as demand outstrips supply. Infrastructure in Canada compared to places like Europe and Asia is wholly inadequate; this country still doesn't have a high speed train. Almost no development of our north takes place in Canada and close to 90% of our population continues to live in a strip of land 200-300 miles from the U.S. border.
@smartypants261
@smartypants261 Ай бұрын
perfectly put. having grown up in the extreme north of canada it’s honestly shameful how little this country chooses develop infrastructure anywhere north of sudbury
@PhanieDaemonia
@PhanieDaemonia Ай бұрын
This is my reaction every time they justify those ridiculous policies because we need to "revitalise city centers". What about the whole rest of the country that needs it even more?!?
@mage3690
@mage3690 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if half of Canada lives south of the US, considering that little bump in the northern Minnesota border.
@michinwaygook3684
@michinwaygook3684 Ай бұрын
@@mage3690 True but that doesn't really change my point.
@xladycaosx
@xladycaosx Ай бұрын
I left a similar comment about Japan having a problem with shrinking population and concentration in big cities which is slowly killing the countryside, and trying everything except pushing for remote work for those businesses that can. So even Asia (where at least public transportation is good) is not immune!
@sfukuda512
@sfukuda512 Ай бұрын
New goal: get hired at a company in Japan. Get banished to the boredom room. Write a novel on company time.
@Gumbier_Than
@Gumbier_Than Ай бұрын
Diabolical. I like it! 😊
@xladycaosx
@xladycaosx Ай бұрын
unfortunately as a foreigner in Japan you’d get the booth first (rare to get more than a short-term contract for a few years when you’re starting out) and you’d only have 3 months to find a new job after (even if you’ve been in the country forever, minimum requirement for residency is 10 years and not everyone can apply anyway). Plus the fun of having to commute every day on extremely packed trains if you’re in any big city. So I would not recommend 😂
@yurisei6732
@yurisei6732 Ай бұрын
I don't think we're going to see the consequences of these return to office orders immediately. The main thing I've noticed happening is that the small-medium companies I deal with that insist on office work are taking a lot longer to hire people, especially into junior roles. They still think remote work will die down, so they're biding their time and operating with fewer employees than they need, but eventually they're going to have to face the facts and either increase their salary offers or allow more remote work, because graduates are holding out for flexible jobs.
@Mandelasmind
@Mandelasmind Ай бұрын
The consequences of WFH is part of why younger workers are getting less work. It’s impossible to train them over zoom and due to the lack of face to face communication, everyone is treated more disposable. Also please take a look into how many jobs get moved overseas after companies realize they can pay 70-80% less for the same work.
@yurisei6732
@yurisei6732 Ай бұрын
@@Mandelasmind That's true, but if workers care more about the ability to work from home than they do about training, they're going to continue to avoid jobs that don't offer some level of flexibility, and companies are going to continue to struggle to recruit.
@prettyboyjeremy
@prettyboyjeremy Ай бұрын
​@@MandelasmindTrue however they're starting to run into the ire of the government. If all they do is hire remote foreigners, they'll start seeing labor tariffs that completely strip away any and all saving they had hiring overseas.
@ri-oj1ul
@ri-oj1ul Ай бұрын
Opposite experience. have recent graduates that rotate through my program and they’re the on,y ones that seem to enjoy actually going to work. Largely because they don’t want to be stuck at home in a city where they don’t know anyone. There’s a huge social component to work and they often feel like they miss out on those things. Also it’s very difficult to learn anything if you’re not proactive about it and they feel they miss out on opportunities by not being on site (at least the opportunities they’d have if everyone else was on site). WFH if great if you’re an experienced professional but its terrible for the kids because they’re often coming to the office but the people who they can learn something from are not there.
@TheDragonCat99
@TheDragonCat99 Ай бұрын
@@ri-oj1ulAlternatively, we could bring back third spaces so kids don’t feel like they have to go to work to socialize. Speaking from experience, socializing at work is not the same as socializing elsewhere, and those kids will eventually learn that too.
@Marqan
@Marqan Ай бұрын
Besides the mentioned and obvious benefits, forcing less people to commute into already overcrowded downtowns sounds like a huge plus to me. Especially in the US where people can have insanely long commutes.
@Antoniocastagnoli
@Antoniocastagnoli Ай бұрын
They’ll never confess. But it’s harder for you to be interviewing for other companies when working at the office.
@petiteange08
@petiteange08 Ай бұрын
Jokes on them, most of the competitors in the city also have office within 10 minutes walk of my office. I can do in person interview during coffee or lunch breaks if I wanted to.
@ChristineSpringerElaine
@ChristineSpringerElaine Ай бұрын
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm a Gen X and we took PTO time to go to job interviews while working in the office. Not impossible to interview elsewhere but does take some planning.
@Ytorisv
@Ytorisv Ай бұрын
This is silly. Shyt I do that on lunch breaks and while on leave from the office.
@Gumbier_Than
@Gumbier_Than Ай бұрын
​@@Ytorisvright. Between communication platforms that have fake backgrounds and lunch breaks, interviews can continue. That or people will start claiming these interviews as "appointments". Sept. 2019, one colleague stated after getting a new job "I didn't say they were all doc appointments" when being out of office for a stretch at that time. 😂
@derekrequiem4359
@derekrequiem4359 Ай бұрын
Companies really are willing to sacrifice profits in exchange for employee control 😲
@prettyboyjeremy
@prettyboyjeremy Ай бұрын
Somehow worst than Robber Barons now
@FreakOnTheLeaf
@FreakOnTheLeaf Ай бұрын
I usually don’t like working from home, but I really enjoy having the choice.
@PhanieDaemonia
@PhanieDaemonia Ай бұрын
This is exactly the point. It's about CHOICE. Some people CAN'T work remotely, for tons of reason (not having enough space, equipment, family in the way, etc.) or simply love going to the office and be sociable. For other people, it's the other way around. There's a reason why employees surveys shows time and again that an overwhelming majority of people want hybrid (aka flexible) work rather than 100% remote or 100% in the office. This is something that good managers should be empowered to provide according to their own teams needs.
@tamdunk
@tamdunk 14 күн бұрын
I agree with this, I'm a 10 minute walk from my office and enjoy working there, but I appreciate how much of an effort it can be for others. Having the choice for people to do what works best for them is the better method imo.
@FacePlant1324
@FacePlant1324 Ай бұрын
Another reason is tax purposes. All these big companies get massive tax breaks if people work in these buildings. My company got a huge tax break and a cheap, accessible building. They lease it out, but what they pay is so low. Probably as much as someone renting an apartment in the area pays, but this is for a building that can hold 800+ employees, the local government built the building just for them to. Working remotely is based on a contract. Some companies require us to work on-site via contracts. The last contract I worked under, if it wasn't for COVID, we would have stayed in office.
@Dropz_RSA
@Dropz_RSA Ай бұрын
Yep, contracts affect this so much as well. A colleague of mine is working at a different branch of our company but has been instructed to go work at head office by month end due to the contract even thought he can work from here for now. And there is actually a lot of work here vs head office
@Ella-g2m
@Ella-g2m Ай бұрын
And these tax breaks need to be voted on by the people. Not only do corpos pay less tax than I do, but they pay less rent, too?!?! It makes me furious. Back in pre-Revolutionary France the wealthy didn't pay tax at all, only the peasants paid tax; and we're heading back there.
@chantholly
@chantholly Ай бұрын
can you please share at what location that is?
@bernstock
@bernstock Ай бұрын
Great video, thank you sir! I’ve been working from home for 5 years, and without the distractions of an office, I get through the largest amount of work I’ve ever been able to get through in a given day. I’ve got a routine that’s super efficient and starts at 6:30am. I rarely get sick anymore. Without having to commute, I save a lot of time and money. Meals at home are cheap. Not being involved in office politics to anywhere near the degree is excellent. They know they get great value out of me which is why I have kept my job for so long. I also have zero impact on their physical office and don’t drink their coffee or take up any desk space. It’s a win-win that’s really hard to deny. In the past I have moved countries for work, costing myself and the company loads of money. These days it’s just a different Teradici login. My car doesn’t clock-up many kms and is way cheaper to run as a result. Who doesn’t want to save money during a cost of living crisis? I liked your analysis of the whole situation. I think remote work is the future.
@muffinpoots
@muffinpoots Ай бұрын
They need people to return to office to justify the large office spaces they have bought. This is a real estate problem. Also, bosses do not like the idea of paying someone that is comfortable at home.
@prettyboyjeremy
@prettyboyjeremy Ай бұрын
"Here's an email of Everything you wanted and then some completed in a fraction of the estimated time." Boss: It must be wrong or incomplete. He did it so fast and from home.
@aygwm
@aygwm Ай бұрын
It’s part of it, but not the whole thing.
@rehgaalkane8518
@rehgaalkane8518 Ай бұрын
I noticed it too, if that too easy for you some bosses gets mad. They want you to suffer in exchange of a salary
@Ytorisv
@Ytorisv Ай бұрын
​@@rehgaalkane8518 sadistic, miserable type shyt.
@JigglyPKMN
@JigglyPKMN Ай бұрын
“Executives are also people.” That depends largely on how you define “person.”
@RepriseYT
@RepriseYT Ай бұрын
All c-suites must hang
@orterves
@orterves Ай бұрын
If you cut them, do they not bleed? The French had a study on this a while back...
@Mechdemon23
@Mechdemon23 Ай бұрын
I need to some proof before I accept that statement.
@truthnotfeelings
@truthnotfeelings Ай бұрын
Can’t be just me who thinks having office workers work remote will help meet the climate goals? Needs to be more push for remote work
@mrturbo84
@mrturbo84 Ай бұрын
Nah go to work like everybody else. What about the People who can not do remote work? Like people who maintain your Home?
@truthnotfeelings
@truthnotfeelings Ай бұрын
@@mrturbo84 I think you missed the point of the video and my comment. Forgive my large reply but if @Fads makes an entire video on the topic and you still missed the point, I feel the need to explain further. The idea we should ‘go to work like everybody else’ is beside all the benefits of remote work Go to work, used to be used for lazy individuals who were jobless Remote workers are not jobless They are doing work. The point is they’re doing work that can be done independent of location. If their work is not required to be done on site (like say construction or factory work) it begs the question do is sit better for them to work remotely. Answer? In regards to productivity? Yes. Employee happiness? Yes. Sheeeit, remote workers enjoy remote work so much they’d even do it for less money, which means Eve more profit margins. As for ‘What about the People who can not do remote work? Like people who maintain your Home?’ Did you think I meant everyone should work remote? I didn’t mean that, but at least you did ask instead of assuming my position incorrectly. That said maybe because I mentioned ‘climate goals’, you thought I may have meant everyone. As for people who maintain the home? I’m assuming you mean plumbers, builders, electricians, carers? If so, it goes without saying that their presence at a work location is essential to their work. No one is arguing they should work remotely. Lastly there may be benefits non-remote workers can experience from remote work. Like? Less air pollution, less traffic during rush hour, reduced stress, lower wait times for petrol or ev stations and less queues at your favourite lunch restaurant. I hope this clarifies things. Lastly I did sense a bit of ‘crabs in a bucket’ mentality in your response. Particularly when you said ‘Nah go to work like everybody else’. It gave the impression of’ ‘if we have to go into work so do you’. If this isn’t what you meant, forgive my misunderstanding, ignore the part below and have a great day 👋😊 If this is what you meant, hopefully you are intelligent enough to see upon reflection that, this is flawed logic. Someone’s right to be paid is dependent on them being able to do work and particularly profitable work. It is not essentially contingent on their presence at a particular location, particularly in jobs like the ones done on a PC. If you see remote workers as having a ‘benefit’ that you don’t get, respectfully FU. I’m sure there’s benefits you enjoy from your job that others don’t. It is selfish to enjoy benefits from your job but try to stop others from benefiting from theirs. Will remote workers benefiting from remote work make your job worse? Will it remove benefits from your job? So again with all due respect, STFU. If your job lacks benefits or pays poorly, go speak to you colleagues, form a union, look for similar jobs with more benefits, suggest to your manager benefits that could incentivise you to stay. Don’t argue against others having benefits for their job, especially when, it doesn’t affect you. Good day 👍
@fedyx1544
@fedyx1544 Ай бұрын
​@@mrturbo84 "uhm since there are some people whose profession forces them to waste time and effort moving around then everyone else should also be forced to suffer the same annoyance, even if their job doesn't actually need it" That's how dumb you sound.
@fedyx1544
@fedyx1544 Ай бұрын
​@@mrturbo84 "uhm since there are some people whose profession forces them to waste time and effort moving around then everyone else should also be forced to suffer the same annoyance, even if their job doesn't actually need it" That's how schewpid you sound.
@DogginsFroggins
@DogginsFroggins Ай бұрын
@@mrturbo84 Crab in a bucket mentality. Why not allow more to work from home, its better for the planet, just because some are in an unfortunate situation doesn't mean everyone has to suffer.
@MetaverseAdventures
@MetaverseAdventures Ай бұрын
It really is ONLY about commercial real estate as sure the whole supporting downtown businesses makes sense, but how about those suburb businesses who benefit from work from home? Plus, and perhaps this is the biggest thing, it is better for the environment if millions of people are no longer commuting. The Federal government should be setting an example, not following the wrong trend.
@Rachopin77
@Rachopin77 Ай бұрын
Also, my husband and I go out to local businesses and bars and restaurants way more often on the days he works from home
@PhanieDaemonia
@PhanieDaemonia Ай бұрын
The government has a very long track record of always following the worst trend, and usually a few years after everybody else realized it was a bad idea. They're actually timely in their bad decisions for once!
@Tracing0029
@Tracing0029 Ай бұрын
So basicaly the system is broken and the wrong people control what happens
@chrispylee1019
@chrispylee1019 Ай бұрын
Welcome to politics lol
@Ampersanderp
@Ampersanderp Ай бұрын
No. The system is working exactly as intended. That is the problem.
@transforgoku
@transforgoku Ай бұрын
From Rome to Venezuela, that's pretty much the history of mankind in a nutshell...
@57ashdot
@57ashdot Ай бұрын
as usual, we put the dumbest people in charge
@danielschoch9604
@danielschoch9604 Ай бұрын
Name "the system": Capitalism.
@SirThanksalott
@SirThanksalott Ай бұрын
Executives can work from a golf course but people can't work from home
@jtm-25
@jtm-25 Ай бұрын
It’s insane that companies choose to cost cut their labor force which directly impacts their outputs rather than their fixed expenses like office rents, utility costs, etc.
@prettyboyjeremy
@prettyboyjeremy Ай бұрын
Because firing someone is "instant" meanwhile electric, water, internet are viewed as "necessary"
@aygwm
@aygwm Ай бұрын
Well, labor is way more expensive
@57ashdot
@57ashdot Ай бұрын
Because the CEO will just make it the next CEOs problem. He gets 3 months of record profits from cutting labor 20%. Then gets his golden parachute and does it to the next company. None of these C-suites are long term thinking anymore. They view the company as just as disposable as the employees.
@RastaBIasta
@RastaBIasta Ай бұрын
Replace the word "Culture" with "Plantation."
@kaio0777
@kaio0777 Ай бұрын
perfect we are slaves.
@yerbudspud
@yerbudspud Ай бұрын
​@@kaio0777 Ironically they would take better care of you if they owned you.
@kaio0777
@kaio0777 Ай бұрын
@@yerbudspud bud no offense in anyway true “some” slavers and use that word “some” very loosely would treat there slave “ok” most if not all treat them worse than trash both black and white “slaves” The reason slavery in past end was because Arabic and asian rich ruling class like white slaves and they were being treated just as bad if not worst that black slave so to stand on moral ground the British ended all of the slave trade not really because they wanted to but because they had to there own people and pride was at risk. But all of that gone now they just want to poors be the slaves and keep quiet 😂
@daikansanchez7674
@daikansanchez7674 Ай бұрын
From a psychological perspective, it is quiet understandable to return workers to the office full time. Especially if we take into account the fact that corporations function with a psychopathic mentality, with an emphasis in short-term gains and maintaining a good perceived image. And obviously disregarding the well-being of their employees and the environment in general. Add to these the psychopathic need to control and manipulate people (feeling powerful) and the move is pretty understandable.
@GeoFry3
@GeoFry3 Ай бұрын
They are going to get a lot of push back. Those 5-10+ hours a week spent commuting are not going to be given up lightly by workers. They are going to expect something in return.
@TheGhost2612000
@TheGhost2612000 Ай бұрын
They did it before so they can do it again. Don't live so far from work.
@GeoFry3
@GeoFry3 Ай бұрын
@TheGhost2612000 Well, the government, investment funds, and banks buggered that option by screwing up home prices.
@KungPowEnterFist
@KungPowEnterFist Ай бұрын
You do get something in return. It's keeping your job.
@GeoFry3
@GeoFry3 Ай бұрын
@KungPowEnterFist Not everyone is a wage slave. Much of the top tallent, the people that generate the most, will walk.
@anthonydyer3939
@anthonydyer3939 Ай бұрын
@@TheGhost2612000 They did, but cost of living has gotten out of control in the meantime, and now people realise that the cost of commuting (in terms of both time and money) is unaffordable. The costs: - 1-2 Hours of your time per day - The cost of running a car or taking public transport - (if applicable) Childcare costs while you are away from home They are all just so much more expensive now. That, and the cost of absolutely else going up, and your wages not keeping up, means that there's less money than ever for commuting.
@welsthe3rd
@welsthe3rd Ай бұрын
As a Director, I get the sense that my company ABSOLUTELY just wants people to quit. Particularly expensive software developers.
@JemieBridges
@JemieBridges Ай бұрын
You mean the people that are your core product? That eill end fine! 😂😂😂
@niamhleeson3522
@niamhleeson3522 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to when I will be hired remotely for 2x the price to clean up the mess resulting from these silly policies.
@Mandelasmind
@Mandelasmind Ай бұрын
@@JemieBridgestheir work can be done for cheaper in India. People love WFH so much they don’t realize the problem it created for them.
@welsthe3rd
@welsthe3rd Ай бұрын
@@Mandelasmind That is totally happening too
@ryangierman4421
@ryangierman4421 Ай бұрын
@@Mandelasmindwhen I call a company and get people from India, I stop doing business with them because even if these Indian people speak”English” they don’t understand American culture, slang, or expressions. They have no empathy and don’t solve problems. This isn’t new. In the 1990s companies tried using foreign workers and stopped because it created negative backlash from American consumers
@insomniacresurrected1000
@insomniacresurrected1000 Ай бұрын
Work from home is actually good for the environment.
@edthelazyboy
@edthelazyboy Ай бұрын
We can probably reduce emissions better and sooner if we implemented WFH government policies. For instance, companies would have to justify the need for their workers to be in the office. It will be a win-win because even for people that have to commute, they will see less traffic and save on gas. This is much better than the EV mandate since EVs still cause emissions.
@nata6025
@nata6025 Ай бұрын
if they left things alone, businesses would relocate to the suburbs and the local economy would regain its footing. this only highlights how much can go wrong when the government uses policy to meddle with the economy. also, if the govt can get off its ass to mandate a return to the office, why can't they introduce policy to prohibit investment firms from buying up housing and driving up the cost of houses?
@Solus6464
@Solus6464 Ай бұрын
From what I found most of the reason for this comes from the upper echelons. They want to return to office because unlike normal people they are miserable at home since most CEO are in some ways psychopathic or socially incapable of having a good relationship with others who are not on their level because their so used to their power dynamic. It’s very weird but their only social life is with their coworkers who despise them. Kinda sad but sadly true.
@justachannel8600
@justachannel8600 Ай бұрын
I made that joke years ago when nobody even thought of Covid to end. They have no friends so they will force you to be.
@petiteange08
@petiteange08 Ай бұрын
Downtown was actually way more pleasant during the WFH era, most people there were to chill (shopping, attend events, hangout with friends, etc.), there was less traffic and people could actually walk around. Was not as good for office real estate and restaurants catering to workers, but if they could convert offices into affordable homes (and yes I know there's a bunch of other issues with that topic), it would have solved the issue.
@whaleAndPetunia
@whaleAndPetunia Ай бұрын
Keeping downtowns filled with people by mandate instead of incentive is a fascinating observation. It raises a bunch of questions: what exactly is a downtown? Why don't people like downtowns? Is this, in America at least, a continuation of class separation (white flight)? What can cities do to make their downtowns appealing again? I live in the outskirts of Amsterdam (technically still in the city limits), work twice-weekly on the complete other edge of town, and avoid the center since its overrun with tourists and shops which cater to them. That said, I love pockets of my city, would LOVE to work closer to the center, and happily support local businesses to keep them going.
@MasterGhostf
@MasterGhostf Ай бұрын
I love downtowns. I like being able to walk around visit shops and etc. I hate driving. I'm not against working from home, we just need better zoning laws to make cities better.
@yurisei6732
@yurisei6732 Ай бұрын
Downtown usually just means central business district - primarily business and commercial spaces populated by workers during the week and serial shoppers during the weekend.
@Ella-g2m
@Ella-g2m Ай бұрын
We're getting into NotJustBikes and Strong Towns, but the reason US downtowns suck is because lack of mixed use construction and anti-human car-centric design where walking around feels outright hostile to exist in. There's also rampant crime. But the pigs would rather patrol law abiding citizens for minor infractions to cite, than actually confront violent criminals, so we get anarcho-tyranny.
@timgibney5590
@timgibney5590 Ай бұрын
THey are more expensive to maintain due to public trans and roads and tight infrastructure meaning condensed electrical, sewers, plumbing, street lights etc. So when companies are empty who is going to pay for all of this? So they threaten employers to take away their tax write offs (illegal but they do it anyway with special laws to benefit single companies) if they do not force YOU to go into the office so these businesses can tax you when you buy a coffee or use a parking lot
@Ytorisv
@Ytorisv Ай бұрын
Downtown is too expensive....I avoid it.
@forklaundry
@forklaundry Ай бұрын
"what looks good over what is effective" IS the Canadian government. God forbid we attract and retained skilled, competent people for our public workforce.
@ssjlkrillin
@ssjlkrillin Ай бұрын
These companies are sitting on real estate and overhead costs for which they wish to seek a return on their investment. Unused office space is bleeding these companies dry with leasing fees and utilities and taxes. That's the real reason. The company and the employees don't give a crap about work culture. Most do not want to be around their co-workers everyday. Home is familiar, it's comfortable, and you're likely around people you want to be with. Productivity increases when a person is at ease and is comfortable. Who cares about that?
@karld1791
@karld1791 Ай бұрын
If society wants us to work in the office it needs to build home supply in walkable cities by public transit so we can afford to live and get to office in a reasonable commute.
@warpedweft9004
@warpedweft9004 Ай бұрын
yep. a bus, and three trains just to get to work, because they moved offices into a traffic bottleneck with no parking available. Previously I could get to the office by one bus, but due to the incompetence of the PT system, they split that into 2 bus routes with the promise of it being temporary, and the buses meeting up. It's not temporary, and the buses rarely meet up, meaning an extra 20-30 minute wait for the second bus, so even if there were no move, it would have taken my nearly two hour-commute to over two hours each way.
@doodleEeto
@doodleEeto Ай бұрын
To people in the comments whining about wfh killing the automotive industry and business real estate, uhh...womp womp? I guess? 🤔 We aren't getting any pensions, nor will be able to afford a lot in the future, why y'all worried 😅
@Ytorisv
@Ytorisv Ай бұрын
I didnt create the system I was born into it.
@LynnHermione
@LynnHermione Ай бұрын
It's about control. ceos want to control the bodies of workers. if you are at your home you only work as much as you actually need, but in the office you are forced to do SOMETHING at all times
@alexclifford2485
@alexclifford2485 Ай бұрын
The companies that win from this will be the ones which are in tune with what workers want, what those workers can deliver in results and adapt salaries and perks. If people can get better terms elsewhere, the big companies with these office mandates will be left with the deadwood. Many people would take a pay cut if it meant they could work from home, as they don't have to spend their post-tax earnings on petrol, commuting, cars, and the huge time and lifestyle costs that it incurs. The smart workers also know they can be more productive when not being distracted or wasting time staring at brake lights for 2-4 hours a day. Of course sometimes people will need to get together sometimes, come in, or collaborate more intensively on the essential meetings. But it's probably less than many of the bosses think. The real elephant in the room is that a lot of organisations, governments and businesses could function with a fraction of their staff if they had more efficient processes and policies and workflows. And the middle-management know they're on borrowed time.
@mikemadsen7926
@mikemadsen7926 Ай бұрын
Let's be honest your commute is most likely 30 min there and 30 min back. That's alot of fuss over a hour ride what's the true motive you're probably doing laundry or walking your dog right now while getting paid
@WantAllTheCake
@WantAllTheCake 28 күн бұрын
@@mikemadsen7926my commute takes an average of 3 hours daily. More during bad weather, before holidays, and during highway construction. I would kill for a half hour commute.
@mikemadsen7926
@mikemadsen7926 28 күн бұрын
@WantAllTheCake I'm from Rhode Island were everything is small an compact it's what I'm used to, I see now some states are wide open, it's sad that some people are losing 11:30 hours out their day even with a 30 min commute that's still 9:30 hours
@RememberingGames
@RememberingGames Ай бұрын
I work at Radio-Canada. By chance they didn't have to follow this rule. No way I will spend 400$ and 40h per month to make faces with collegues. That is just totally illogical.
@zuniga325
@zuniga325 Ай бұрын
Why don’t they demand the workers they hired overseas to replace us back to the office? I’m waiting…
@randomnezzz
@randomnezzz Ай бұрын
They do mandate their foreign workers to return to office, and of course they are paid poorly so suffer more with costs. Both types of employees suffer with return to office mandates.
@Ravi-rl8tt
@Ravi-rl8tt Ай бұрын
Lmao, I got five remote offers last week after months of not finding anything. The September boom hit hard. On top of that, I’ve had my emergency funds ready to go. I’d rather stay unemployed than go into an office ever again. The most I’d do was what I did yesterday where I met everyone in-person and then just did everything else remotely forever.
@alphagas
@alphagas Ай бұрын
Changing job responsibilities or schedules in an attempt to get an employee to quit is called 'constructive dismissal' and in the US entitles the employee to unemployment payments.
@LuizFelipe-sp9dg
@LuizFelipe-sp9dg Ай бұрын
It sounds like they received an order from outside and are blindly following. I worl from home, and I must say. Work in the office sucks. Office work makes: 1) Toxic environments 2) Bullying 3) Stress 4) Fall of productivity And so on
@Cybermaul
@Cybermaul Ай бұрын
Politician: "Anything to get the economy going!" Workers: You mean, like taxing the rich and giving more money to lower class people? Politician: Uh. No, I mean crushing workers for every last drop of productivity and cash before we institute full corporate feudalism.
@gurriato
@gurriato Ай бұрын
More commie bullshit.
@lexzbuddy
@lexzbuddy Ай бұрын
I hate working in the office. I am an engineer and got far more work done and was more productive working from home. You didn't have to deal with internal politics, gossip or other time wasting. Since returning to 5 days a week in the office I'm fed up and want a new job or career. So, the only culture I see as negative is one where we are forced to work in an office every day. Eventually it will change but I doubt it won't happen any time soon. I think there are too many individuals that need their egos massaged and feel in control. There are those that thrive in a culture of blame and when workers all work remotely, it's pretty much impossible to point fingers. I think remote working is the future. Everything is changing and there are people that can't accept change. Shopping centers are closing or changing, how we work and the tools we use are changing. There are fewer and fewer reasons to go into the office and it makes little sense. Change isn't coming, it is here. We need to accept change and adapt, not fight it.
@andromedach
@andromedach Ай бұрын
The best argument against having people work on site is many of these same companies have no issue off shoring.
@ts25679
@ts25679 Ай бұрын
I think the reason why people were positive about working from home for themselves verses others was similar to our delusions about our driving abilities. "Everyone else sucks but I'm great; except for those times I had personally reasonable excuses for!" People assume everyone else would be slacking off at home not achieving anything, anything more than we are at any rate, and that their bad behaviour will reflect poorly on us.
@LauraBow
@LauraBow Ай бұрын
When I had a job that couldnt be done from home, wfh cleared the roads. It was amazing! Now traveling takes forever again
@GamerGee
@GamerGee Күн бұрын
Yep. But they don’t care about that. They say. We need people on the roads losing free time after work
@silasfox
@silasfox 8 күн бұрын
Just found your channel. 3/3 vids in you addressed some serious stuff that directly relate to my work life and how I see the world around me. It's got me thinking, so huge props for putting this all together!!
@southerncyan4098
@southerncyan4098 Ай бұрын
You see, the problem is that they have incompetent leadership imo. Insecure, and unwilling to capitalize on change, they're the very opposite of innovative. They are creating the wealth of their competition. I would assume that CEOs worth their pay would recognize and take advantage. edit (realized there was a better word for something)
@romainguegan5280
@romainguegan5280 Ай бұрын
Super interesting as usual! One aspect you forgot to mention when comparing work from home with office work, is the transportation. In my opinion, it's the main reason why people rather work from home. Less stress, less pollution, more sleep. I'll be very curious to learn, what less transportation had as an impact (if stats exist obviously).
@Juvyss
@Juvyss Ай бұрын
TLDR - Bosses have egos that they cant control, they need to feel like they own you.
@Andrew_Extra
@Andrew_Extra Ай бұрын
Thank for talking about this topic. Brilliant analysis, you have a new subscriber!
@andreatorriglia8010
@andreatorriglia8010 Ай бұрын
One thing that can be inferred by looking at your video is the concept of "forced consumption": by mandating people back to the office, you're actually forcing them to consume goods or services they wouldn't have in normal circumstances (rent, restaurants, gasoline). In a real free market, prices are indicative of a trend. By intervening with such abhorrent laws, you're effectively hurting competition and rigging the game, by not allowing prices to freely move. Politicians lack the skills or the will to actually solve these complex issues. Sure, it's not a good thing if a restaurant shuts down if fewer and fewer people go there because they are working from home. But if they're not consuming your services it's because they don't need it: deal with it. The government should actually incentivise people to change industry when the trend suggests a clear opportunity to do so. Instead, they opt for the easy way, to do things as they were done before, because actually coming up with a plan this big requires those who govern us to think, a skill they clearly lack. Then, if you mix this concept with the data about remote workers reducing emissions, you clearly see who a mandate to return to the office clearly benefits: the oil sector, one of the biggest and most powerful interest groups in the world. Then ask yourself who's really making the laws. If the government really gave a fuck about climate change, they would have actually mandated remote work when the industry allows for it. Instead, you have lackeys willing to do anything for another mandate, even screwing the lives of the many, for the benefit of the few.
@yurisei6732
@yurisei6732 Ай бұрын
This is one of the serious limitations of democracy - long term planning is virtually impossible, because every individual politician is only worried about the next election cycle. Maintaining the status quo is politically much safer than trying to adapt to the next stage of civilisation.
@Mrfinch9999
@Mrfinch9999 Ай бұрын
You forgot that they are entitled to what they want from you, you are not entitled to what you want you want though.
@oilslick7010
@oilslick7010 Ай бұрын
It's how things were before the French Revolution. Except 'Nobility' and 'Clergy' are replaced by 'Big Corpo'. Otherwise the game is the same: tie your serfs to the land and extract all wealth from them so you can reap the rewards.
@Vandus-ds
@Vandus-ds Ай бұрын
Change office buildings to affordable housing. Two birds with one stone right there.
@TarsonTalon
@TarsonTalon Ай бұрын
Yeah, but then the real estate people complain. Sadly, there are just too many competing interests, most of which are grifts.
@alexzanderroberts995
@alexzanderroberts995 Ай бұрын
Due to housing codes that isn't possible. It would be more expensive to redo the buildings than to just demo and rebuild.
@peanutboxes4076
@peanutboxes4076 Ай бұрын
@@alexzanderroberts995then they need to change planning laws to make it easier.
@alexzanderroberts995
@alexzanderroberts995 Ай бұрын
@@peanutboxes4076 that would take a level of competence that is unobtainable for this situation, as if they had that level of for thought we wouldn't be here right now.
@Roggor
@Roggor Ай бұрын
​@@peanutboxes4076 Look at the average office. Each apartment would either be massive and therefore expensive or a corridor with a single window. There's often a reason why the simple answer is not the right one.
@mycollegeshirt
@mycollegeshirt Ай бұрын
This is extremely well done. I have seen several videos trying to answer this question, this had. Real tangable, less speculative answers.
@max5427
@max5427 Ай бұрын
We live in a world where most people cant pay rent in mayor cities while home office would solve that problem for a huge mass of people. But we still don't do it, because companies paid their real estate and don't like to love value even tho it would be best for productivity.
@freeman37
@freeman37 Ай бұрын
it's not about increasing proffitability or productivity, it is about CONTROL!!
@kapasitorcpt9249
@kapasitorcpt9249 Ай бұрын
Some jobs can be done remotely some can't. Got to start there. If a job doesn't require a personally being there then it can be done remotely. If it does then unfortuantely it can't.
@AnimeGIFfy
@AnimeGIFfy Ай бұрын
whats the argument? we are talking about jobs that were successfully being done remotely for a couple years.
@marcocoelhohome
@marcocoelhohome 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video, I think this is one, if not the most, interesting video on the war against remote work I've seen this year. Put in this way, it's pretty obvious it's not a war against remote work, but a war from people who wish to keep the power (government, CEOs) against people who shared in this power during the pandemic (remote workers, part time workers).
@beckybeebop3344
@beckybeebop3344 Ай бұрын
It’s corporate bobbins, they need to cut staff and forcing people into to office or quit is an easy way to do it. America is on its arse, and I feel so sorry for those in that system. In Europe, a company that makes you work in the office 5 days a week is still a red flag….. thank god!!
@vacafuega
@vacafuega Ай бұрын
The depth of insight in this video is inspiring. I'm learning so much from watching you. Thank you!
@SL89999
@SL89999 Ай бұрын
Personally I’ve found that the double hit of remote work and cut in travel budgets has meant lower overall productivity in my industry. It takes longer to get stuff done, longer to build relationships, tougher to cut through email/meeting nonsense, harder to work out who is legit & who is grifting. This goes for experience with colleagues and external advisers. Respect for anyone who can make 100% remote work work without getting insanely angry with the obvious grift that’s a drag on your own pay & progression.
@Ytorisv
@Ytorisv Ай бұрын
Sure😒
@rainbowstormgaming
@rainbowstormgaming Ай бұрын
5:50 As someone who has been made redundant I can guarantee that the remaining workers are of way lower quality. Company I was at had doubled its losses, only downhill from there. I am glad they are plummeting.
@kiwifruitkl
@kiwifruitkl Ай бұрын
Remote/work-from-home jobs are jobs that are primarily done on the computer. Childcare workers, for example, will never be remote. Why? Because you need a real person managing kids. Same goes for schoolteachers. Remote learning/distance learning will not work for way too many students because it is difficult for the teacher to monitor the students for misbehaviors. Also, the home environment is hard to control because some people have noisy families that don't care if the kid is studying... or whatever reason. Also, for primary school teachers who are just teaching kids how to read, the teachers need to model for the students--say, point to the word as the student reads. A teacher can quickly notice slower learners and provide more hands-on instruction. The schoolteacher may be free during summers, but because they are NOT working, they won't be paid unless they opt for other school jobs like sports coaching or summer school teaching. A lot of teachers will take the whole salary, what it is, and divide that amount by the 12 months of the year, so at least they are paid every month, and then they can budget accordingly.
@mikemadsen7926
@mikemadsen7926 Ай бұрын
You admitted schooling from home doesn't work kids need to be monitored or else they'll more likely not work as much that isn't much different for adults if we're being honest
@OutsiderLabs
@OutsiderLabs Ай бұрын
@@mikemadsen7926 So you're unable to do a job unless someone is constantly watching you? Sad, your parents should have raised you better
@mikemadsen7926
@mikemadsen7926 Ай бұрын
@@OutsiderLabs no I work in the building where I'm payed for every hour worked. The employees that wfh at my job admit that they do errands food shop walk the dog etc. Nobody is enthusiastic about doing mundane work for 9hrs straight they have to get pushed
@katrinkarose175
@katrinkarose175 Ай бұрын
@@mikemadsen7926 If these people are getting their work done well and on time, then why does what else they do during those hours matter? As someone who never had as office job it's blown my mind to watch my husband work from home and finally get an idea how many of those hours in the office are just wasted time.
@durandus676
@durandus676 Ай бұрын
11:11 it’s simple. Legally classified documents. Every worker would need an issued computer and verification that their workspace is legally compliant to regulations on handling citizen information.
@user_____M
@user_____M Ай бұрын
"Corporations aren't stupid" cue Volkswagen and Boeing.
@LynnHermione
@LynnHermione Ай бұрын
to be fair, public employees SHOULD be at the office every day unless they have health issues. they are notorious for not working even at the office and unlike in a private job where if the worker doesn't work the only one hurt is the ceo, in a public office if the worker doesn't do sht bc they're at home every citizen gets hurt. if you work for the government you SHOULD be controlled, it's a public responsibility.
@Che9009
@Che9009 Ай бұрын
I'm a tradesman, I wish I could work from home.
@JoATTech
@JoATTech Ай бұрын
Yeah ... company I work for (as a consultant) lately have like 200 people jobless (no assignments). So they forced them to be in the office 5 days a week and 60% of them gave them the notice the same month. Of course company announced that as a great success because they reduced "bench" by 60% :D.
@speedbuiz
@speedbuiz Ай бұрын
...one of the weirdest ratios i've seen for views. Maybe YT flagged/shadowbanned something in the title?
@Mel_G423
@Mel_G423 Ай бұрын
It’s unacceptable that companies would rather lose profits and hurt the environment just so they can maintain the appearance of power and control. These companies should be boycotted. It’s time we create a world built on compassion and common sense, and not reward companies that are about humans exercising power over one another. I for one will not be shopping at Amazon this Christmas. I will support those companies that care about the environment and their workers.
@narinostuiver642
@narinostuiver642 Ай бұрын
Once again; their policies are short-sighted. Let me elaborate: It would also alleviate pressure off of the housing market, since you don't need to be in close proximity to work anymore. Meaning people can actually AFFORD houses again Less vehicles used to transport people to work means less collisions over all, means less taxpayer money being spent on injuries and accidents. This money could be better spend towards education (or all to Israel ofc) People would spend less on wear and tear repair for vehicles, have more freetime and keep more money in their pocket. This could lift op optimism in a country. Optimism in the future means people will likely borrow more and spend more money, thus creating a positive feedback loop. But nooo the q4 2024 earnings report 😥😥😥😣😣
@observingsystem
@observingsystem Ай бұрын
Very good you did a video on this, this is shocking and it amazes me not more people are outraged by the hypocrisy of it all.
@pandalace_
@pandalace_ Ай бұрын
Omg first? Great job Fads!!
@BladeTheWatcher
@BladeTheWatcher Ай бұрын
Yeah, this is something I experienced firsthand unfortunately. Companies force you to commute to the office purely because they DON'T CARE. They don't care about your time and efforts. Commuting comes form your time and your expense. Lunch is coming from your time and expense. Wasting your time or money is just not their problem! My advice - make it their problem! Just look for another job, and differentiate on your salary expectations based on the working model! Remember, employment is business, you need to take your interests into consideration, because no one else will! When the employers see clearly that hiring someone for office work costs 20-30% more than a remote worker - then they will drop it. Until then, they do whatever their egos tell them. If you're not satisfied with your work, or you think you can get a better deal - I urge you to start actively look for a new, better position. The employers won't be loyal to you, you owe them nothing!
@THEMithrandir09
@THEMithrandir09 Ай бұрын
My theory is that the higher ups in these companies own the buildings the companies they work in pay rent to. Remote work decreases the demand for their buildings,l and might even affect the housing market because offices can be remodeled as living space in crucial areas of the city, driving prices further down.
@yurisei6732
@yurisei6732 Ай бұрын
This does seem to be pretty common, but not just for the big companies - a lot of small companies' owners use the rent the company pays to them as their retirement, because then it's a steady cost for the company instead of something that has to be taken out of unreliable profit margins.
@THEMithrandir09
@THEMithrandir09 Ай бұрын
@@yurisei6732 Yeah, it could be much more pervasive than I thought.
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