"They're taking the hobbits to Isengard."

Quite possibly the zaniest video I've ever made.
Also, for anyone curious: plato.stanford...
George Street Shuffle Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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[@StephenHarperRaptagon]

I did a survey of all the people I know and they were all alive. 100% OF THEM.

[@chuggajr]

I don’t know I think it could be a problem of survey methodology. How did you propose the survey, was it random selection or was the survey offered openly to anyone you know?

[@lukecox6317]

All this shows is you don't have any vampire, ghost, or zombie friends, you BIGOT!

[@MorgottofLeyendell]

I did a survey and only 20% percent of the people I know are dead. So I think my odds of living are pretty good.

[@groofay]

Same here! 20% of them didn't respond, so I couldn't include them in the data. Shame, that.

[@lightworker2956]

I'm a medium. Some of the people I've spoken to recently are in fact dead.

[@Señor-Donjusticia]

I loved the part in the video where they talked about how, “They’ve taken the Bridgemen to Odium!”

[@whetshu2641]

I loved the part where they talked about how, "They're taking the Dragon to Shayol Ghul!"

[@gustavomazonave8536]

Nice Stormlight reference

[@FaDoArthGamesPro]

@@whetshu2641And great WoT reference

[@danieledelman158]

It’s like I always say, we are all immortal until proven mortal.

[@greygaston1263]

Tbh, I think every leader of every humanist ideology (communism, nazism, modern liberalism etc) believe that they’ll become immortal with the aid of “big mountain science” and live in the moment as a result, and that’s kinda why most countries suck now a days, including ours!!!!

[@smartsmartie7142]

adrenaline junkies are actually scientists trying to prove that they are immortal, I knew it.

[@lightworker2956]

Statistically speaking, more people have been born than have died throughout history. So statistically speaking, being born only has a 99% or so death rate.

[@miniyodadude6604]

Quantum immortality

[@entropyzero5588]

IIRC the current total fatality rate of the human condition is somewhere between 90 and 95%; meaning we can't even say with certainty p < 0.05 that all humans will die. In most sciences, that would mean the data just does not support the hypothesis...

[@Orangyy_]

I love how this video slowly devolves into madness

[@alekz112]

Average phil student discussion

[@firepillar6677]

Madness? This is Cape Town

[@groofay]

In the wise words of Steven Wright: "I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

[@entropyzero5588]

"I will live forever of die trying!"

[@purplelibraryguy8729]

Ursula K. le Guin's last collection of poetry, published very shortly before her death, was called "So far so good". Tough sense of humour there.

[@samfranck2119]

It seems Illúvatar needs to sit down with those kiddos and have the talk with them.

[@hithedragon7842]

This is funnier than it should be

[@Yesica1993]

After this, I just had to go rewatch the original, "They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard", classic. And I learned the guy who made it, Erwin Beekveld, died in 2022. How sad.

[@sit-insforsithis1568]

I learned he was.a fellow Dutchman

[@thedistinguished5255]

how did he die?

[@Yesica1993]

Lung cancer. The story I read was titled: WE SAY LAST GOODBYE TO ERWIN “TRON” BEEKVELD@@thedistinguished5255

[@d3nza482]

@@thedistinguished5255 Too much pipe-weed.

[@lukecox6317]

As a Cape Townian, I can indeed confirm Isengard is near to us ... In that I have the book on a shelf nearby, and as an ebook, so technically I can visit the Ents demonstrating branches and roots breaking stone at any point I like rather conveniently.

[@Ipavaiva]

I don't know what I expected from this video, but it definitely wasn't this

[@TheNitram8]

If you recognize that meme song then you probably have come to terms wih your own mortality.

[@brianzhamilton]

I love the meta-joke you made by quoting Sméagol to your other self.

[@Xob_Driesestig]

The famous "bloemfontein argument" is why I now endorse bayesian epistemology.

[@genericallyentertaining]

Baysed take.

[@GeorgeKinsill]

At the very least, Bayes encourages you to consider the type of evidence necessary to meaningfully differentiate the posterior from the prior, which is why I teach all of my students Bayes Theorem.

[@sillythewanderer4221]

I am honestly not sure whether to be glad or worried that I know what this means

[@LagusLykamo]

I literally thought " Oh it's funny 'cause the song it's actually called " They're taking the hobbits to MORDOR"..." And now I don't know what's happening anymore!

[@vorpalkiss]

i could listen to your personified warring inner thoughts for ages, i love how many rapid turns the narrative takes. the quality's constantly improving on this channel, veryvery good soup, good job

[@AndreiDoiev]

The white-shirt one was not wrong though... up to the point of Isengard being close to Cape Town. Which makes me think he was right about this, too.

[@Kaladin_S_]

This video was unhinged lmao

[@jenshep1720]

aaand i understood more or less everything you talked about here. finally, my philosophy degree is helpful. for real though, the whole empiricism thing with hume is kinda basic but still annoyed th ehell out of me the first time.

[@genericallyentertaining]

It's one of my favorite arguments in philosophy, not because I agree with it, but because I can't help but admire its sheer audacity.

[@GeorgeKinsill]

@@genericallyentertaining , St Anslem was always my favorite. If God is perfect, then the most perfect version of something must be real, so God is real. This is why I can only handle philosophers in small batches.

[@crawfy48]

​@@GeorgeKinsill Kurt Gödel later tuned up Anselm's argument, someone shown that it leads to a modal collapse... It is a gift that keeps on giving 👌

[@GeorgeKinsill]

@@crawfy48 yep! I had a DnD campaign plotted out which basically involved the best artist -- who existed thanks to Anslem's argument -- who drew a picture of the perfect final battle -- which must exist -- only to accidentally free the greatest evil, which the characters must defeat, somehow.

[@Olphas]

What An Unexpected Journey 😂Wild

[@asterbartel3829]

did anyone else notice the "leave now and never come back"?

[@locococo8961]

The inevitability of death does not fall within the realms of the problem of induction, as death's inevitability is not a inductive inference but a deductive inference. All living organisms have a finite lifespan. Death is an inherent part of the life cycle, as cells have limits to how much wear and tear they can take. Polymers can only divide so many times; that's what causes aging. The human body is no exception to this. Physical decay over time, ie aging, is well-documented and observable, and has no exceptions. It can be deduced that this process that makes us more vulnerable will continue to happen to us in the future, as the burden of proof is on proving that this function will cease to occur, not continue to. Throughout history, every living organism has experienced death at some point or will do so later; this is not an inductive conclusion, but one that can be deduced from the miriad evidence already existing.

[@spawel1]

um actually not every living organism is certain to die as not all living organisms suffer from ageing so really it is certainly possible that an organism can live an infinite life if the preconditions befit it. Also you make the assumption that ageing will continue to occur... already scientists are working to cure ageing perchance we may see an end to ageing in our lifetimes.. thus you are wrong.

[@robertpearson8798]

@@spawel1 Ah, the optimism of youth. Keep it as long as you can.

[@segadoeswhatnintendont]

Proof by second law of thermodynamics

[@ChBrahm]

I’ve been on rollercoasters with less twists and turns

[@GeorgeKinsill]

Fewer

[@ChBrahm]

Stannis Baratheon I assume@@GeorgeKinsill

[@Celadonis-the-Lore-Seeker]

It's like some dreams that make less and less sense as they go on and you desperately try to make sense of them before you wake up.

[@telescopicfish]

PO TA TOES. BOIL EM MASH EM STICK EM IN A STEW

[@Carter_C727]

😂😂❤😂❤

[@otisrulling1090]

Epistemology AND LOTR on MY feed? Yes mama!🥵

[@inthenebula92]

This took me to a place I wasn't ready to go

[@chestersnap]

So filing taxes is different from paying taxes. It's way more difficult to do the latter

[@roko1.083]

One of the funniest vids I’ve seen in the past few days Lmao, genius

[@FirstLast-wk3kc]

The growing madness is insanely great, i love it

[@Yesica1993]

3:15 was my exact expression too.

[@peridotperson]

I now need to watch every video of yours this is comedy gold.

[@dudethedude1220]

2:10 My brain and I while I'm trying to sleep

[@InventorZahran]

They're hobbiting the isengards to take!

[@peaceofcrap]

This is the best video you've made so far.

[@danielkover7157]

This is madness! This. Is. BLOEMFONTEIN!

[@m1bl4n]

Achievement! How did we get here?

[@reallyidrathernot.134]

we actually do all ignore the problem of induction. it's pretty sweet.

[@nikacomedawn]

Knowing I'm going to die is a comfort. Even if we somehow all become immortal and I won't lose loved ones, life would stagnate. And because of my religion, I believe that after death we're going to progress and be with our heavenly father. If I learned that we were never going to die, I would be upset.

[@nazimelmardi]

Well… Robert Godling didn’t believe he will die and see what he dealt with Dream? 😁

[@genericallyentertaining]

Yeah, not gonna lie, my headcanon was that the character in this skit is actually Hob Gadling.

[@EmonEconomist]

White shirt guy is what happens when you haven't been granted the Gift of Ilúvatar.

[@justinhowe3878]

david hume absolutely demolishing specious reasoning out here

[@Djmaxham]

how does he come up with this. Hilarious.

[@Trashley652]

Well it's *been* near Cape Town in the past but that doesn't mean it's still there!

[@ryanratchford2530]

my kind of video

[@linarili7957]

Теперь это мое любимое видео в интернете

[@bbombastus7791]

Well, that took a few unexpected turns XD

[@CinLightweaver]

Well that chaos made my day. I need to transcribe that stuff to spout at my friends when I’m in a particularly existential mood.

[@seeibe]

Well he's got a point. Just because so far we haven't invented immortality, doesn't mean we won't invent it in the future, right?

[@gilian2587]

I think therefore I am.

[@cmknoll3]

I plan to live forever... so far so good.

[@B.coffin]

I wasn’t expecting this, but I love it.

[@dustingarner4620]

This is my favorite video of yours, it's amazing

[@Kenfren]

This is the most brilliant take down of Hume I've ever seen

[@thedappermagician6905]

Not sure if intended but this reminds of the Men of Good Fortune arc in The Sandman

[@borislavamanova4532]

The mention of David Hume and "They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard" in one video has truly restored my faith in mankind

[@glitchmaster360_4]

This seems like an argument I would have with myself on a nightly basis

[@dillantrinh8034]

I love how at the start he's kinda referencing the Dead Crew Of Oddwood cover.

[@saphi2400]

I bet this person read liu cixin.

[@Pers0n97]

Yup... I am now contractually obligated to put a 2hours version of that song in the background. Thanks.

[@EGOwaffleboy]

Kor, rooster and nelthor

[@JeffreyBeardsley]

You have the best arguments against yourself.

[@nectimusmaximus]

I dig it. Subscribed.

[@purplelibraryguy8729]

Apparently there's an equally bad problem with DEduction. So we have no method of logical reasoning that stands up to logic . . . But you know, inductively I've found that every time I use them, both inductive and deductive reasoning seem to work, so I'm going to keep on trusting them . . . :D

[@realNom2mooncow]

I'm currently reading the Lathe of Heaven and this video is basically the plot of the book

[@d007ization]

I hate how it tied back to Isengard.

[@GeorgeKinsill]

I now want to see a debate of imagining the perfect Cosmere adaptation, and how if perfect, it should already exist. Therefore, the perfect movie adaptation of the Cosmere already exists.

[@PoetNoPoems]

I legit did not expect to hear Bloemfontein. For a second I thought it was a place in LOTR. Also, can some edit this to change Cape Town to Johannesburg for representation and proof of induction

[@isarene22]

So I take it you aren't convinced by Hume?

[@fifthhoven]

When one compares Tolkien to Shakespeare, one can use this and "PO-TA-TOES". (I'm just kidding maybe. But when someone brings this up, my eyes narrow and I think "tricky".)

[@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap]

this is the type of person who'd use the "we've never seen saitama use his full strength" argument

[@Prophet_of_Colour]

Since the first people living to be multiple hundreds of years can be born in this century, and who will thus live to experience even greater advancements longevity if they should be made, the trouble with presuming you will die is that we can't be reasonably certain of it anymore. Immortality has always been portrayed as inherently inhuman, because nobody in any position of power--from government to lowly parent--has been able to tell their subjects that they can certainly live even for a hundred years. But soon enough this perception will grind down and immortality will no longer be (almost) ubiquitously portrayed as a curse or supernatural phenomenon we cannot handle.

[@AMasondude]

Cut your hair a little and wear glasses, and youll look EXACTLY like Milo from Atlantis:The Lost World

[@TheLazyBot]

I hate that I’m the guy in the retro glasses. I won’t change tho

[@extrantice]

past performance does not predict future outcome?

[@ladyethyme]

Why are you so awesome and why aren't we friends

[@HypeShot-27]

I wonder if they made it to Isengard yet

[@GR20000]

Did you read about the problem of Induction and really need to make a video about how it's completely and utterly deranged?

[@pelegsap]

For a "generic entertainment" channel you do talk a lot about Tolkien's legendarium.

[@SuperFuzzyDunlop]

Sorry for not engaging with the content but your eyes are beautiful

[@spacecatt9956]

haha loved it sm

[@mikec1222]

Jesus...this must be what it's like for people to argue with me on Reddit. Sorry bout that.

[@TrueNohaynicks]

xd

[@adoniscreed4031]

Bro just tell us you do drugs 😂 you didn't need to make a whole skit based on a bad trip you had hahaha Funny how I haven't studied Phylosophy for 10 years and knew what he was on about, philosphy is weirdly accessible regardless of how it comes across 😂

[@inthenebula92]

Never heard of "phylosophy" before, is that the study of phyllo pastry?

[@vedkedia]

First