They Want BIGGER Subwoofers After Experiencing My JTR Home Theater!

[@bootneylee9802]

Very beautiful family! Warms my cold heart! 🎉

[@offdacorner]

Book Of Eli is a great sounding movie. Wonderful choice for a sound demo. And on a side note these people seem so nice and humble. It's awesome to see nice people helping nice people. 🙂

[@Youthman]

I’ve had so many kind guests in my home over the years. I feel blessed.

[@RalphMoon]

So nice seeing a younger couple of this generation choosing real theatre instead of tv with soundbar

[@Youthman]

100%!

[@hometheaterfever5]

Exactly

[@pinballdan]

You can buy such good used Equipment for so cheap that almost anyone can setup a home Is theater room on a budget!

[@garryhammond3117]

My exact feelings! - Cheers!

[@shadowhunter0]

some people might not just have the space for it also maybe they just don't want to deal with getting it set up or a soundbar might be all that they need or want

[@gtoutdoors1197]

Interstellar was great bass even from my single 12" OSD Trevoce subwoofer. But now the best movie is Oppenheimer scene 2 (7 minutes to 8 minutes into the movie). The Hans Zimmer song is great but the Bass is purely Violently Awesome ! I actually got scared/worried for both my eardrums as well as my neighbors. LFE at 80HZ. But used the low-level dual rca(LFE Off) had Subwoofer crossover lowest at 40HZ that's more power and that's when I actually got scared. Onkyo receiver at volume 33-35 for Beast Mode. I will take video clips next week, got a Camcorder now.

[@demwillams8898]

I mean...everybody wants bigger (and more) subs. Its the paying for them (and having room) that gets you. Friendly reminder that if the floor is strong enough...you can always go upwards :)

[@Banzaj33]

I can appreciate the quality and SPL of the JTR system, but personally i love the esthetics of higher end speakers in my home theatre. I only have 1 listening space for my music, movies and entertainment and i absolutely love looking at my speakers, regardless of the reflections of them due to the light from the projector. Looking to upgrade to the Arendal 1528 series for all the main speakers, not sure i would go the hidden route even if i could go for a stereo listening environment and a cinema on top. The sound is at least 70% of the experience of the movie, and i personally think that deserves to be presented visually as well.

[@Youthman]

Nothing wrong with having elegant speakers.

[@davidrivera2165]

My wow moment was the sound bleed through to your open living area. Your wife is a saint, brother! Your new house better have a room within a room built for your dedicated HT, or the more affordable solutions for many of us Floridian. Which is build your garage with block cement walls and add double staggered studs for your garage/HT room. The entrance to the garage cannot be attached to the house, but rather an outside entrance. You will spend three times more mula trying to do some sound travel mitigation in any Florida built house of a space built within the foot space of the home structure, and still will have noticeable bleed through (98% Florida homes can not be built with a basement (you'd be under at least 3' of water in the summer rainy season). Please note that acoustic room treatment only affects the sound waves within the room itself. It does very little to mitigate sound bleed through, specially for low frequency LFE extension.

[@Youthman]

I’ve learned over the years to send Jessica shopping if I want to really crank it in the Theater Room lol

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Great upload massive inspiration to us smaller creators 👌👌👌👌👌👌

[@richardkUK8764]

It’s always good to see others appreciating your setup. Mine too, is taking years to build up, about the same as yours.

[@kstorm]

As a long time home theater enthusiast, audiophile and videophile I love your channel after having discovered it recently. It was your home theater tour of your room video prior to moving that really impressed me and introduce me to your channel. I discovered the video by accident, but don't regret though. Nothing beats an authentic home theater system as opposed to a soundbar. I remember my family purchased years ago one of the Bose lifestyle systems. Now it's time for me to upgrade to such an home theater environment.

[@Youthman]

Thank you and welcome to the channel.

[@shinvergil]

Is it true for music too? Or is 12 to 18 inch the sweet spot for music?

[@psyphonyxaudio]

I spent my time observing how your rooms sound as you walk around. =)

[@Youthman]

I much prefer using my lapel mic when recording in my room but the dual shotgun mic is used when I need to capture audio in front and behind the camera.

[@Antimonkat]

I love my acoustic transparent screen, it allowed me to go full width so 150" for my space, and not have the speakers be in the way of walking or the visual impact of the screen, but I do like seeing the surrounds and heights, not as in to the fully hidden in walls and fabric coverings for all of the room.

[@BossmanAlowmoney]

Whats the best speed for 4k blu player hdmi cables to use? I have pansonic ubp 820 player.

[@peppersmith]

AWEsome, They Need Bigger Subs - YES!! Nothing like having ur heart do a Double Beat.. lol

[@THEBADGUY56]

Them JTR subs are the real deal. Cone area is King. I never heard them B4, but I had 15's subwoofer in my SUV and it hit hard only on 800 watt fosgate amp. I cant even imagine 4 18's with that wattage in a room

[@bingdong8571]

have u seen the new wallpaper they have? its cakked "subwoofers". Only problem is its two feet deep but it makes low end fantastic

[@robertrobitaille320]

Hi are we speaking of chapter 12 In Book of Eli at 52.10 minutes. You got me curious I ordered from Amazon two days ago. Received today and listen tonight. Nice sound effect no pouding on me. I put it at -21 instead of -31.5.

[@zoilosauls4156]

Youthman I have been watching your programs for quite a few years. One movie that you need to demo is Open Range with Kevin Costner the gun fighting scene at the end of the movie. WOW !!!

[@Youthman]

Thanks for the recommendation. I haven’t seen that one.

[@RomanLewandowski-i6z]

the difference in cost is huge there no doubt your system will sound better. Has there systems been calculated as well as your

[@GTGrabber]

is your reference calibrated at 75? or 85db?

[@Youthman]

I used Anthem ARC.

[@Youthman]

Audyssey calibrates Reference at 85dB but uses 75dB during the calibration process to make it easier on the ears. They simply add 10dB to the measurements after calibration.

[@GTGrabber]

@@Youthman Good to know about the 10db add. I assumed it stayed at 75db. Manual level matching at 85db is still 85db though right?

[@mcarr416ix]

Stick with Plex, the cost of kaleidescape is just too much.

[@Youthman]

if you are willing to put the work in, Plex can be a good solution but it’s not without its issues, a learning curve and massive amount of time involved.

[@mcarr416ix]

@Youthman how much did you spend on your kaleidescape setup?

[@JeffreyFrye]

@@mcarr416ix I do plan on sticking with Plex. But there's no denying the massive amount of time it took me to rip over 400 discs and organize everything. Kaleidescape definitely has a market for those who want to pay for the convenience and beautiful UI.

[@Youthman]

The Kaleidescape system is on a long term loan, so I do not own it. I stated at the beginning of my first video the unit was sent to me to review and to make content on. After using it for 6 months, I liked the platform so much, I decided to become a dealer for Kaleidescape and have since made 9 dedicated videos on Kaleidescape.

[@mcarr416ix]

@@Youthman so you don't want to share the cost 🤣 it's well worth spending a small amount of time with Plex. Kaleidescape is too expensive for the average consumer. $4000 - $5000 for the player, and how much for the lowest cost server? Another $6000 - $7000? And that scales up to the downpayment on your new house? It's crazy. It's a nice product but good lord. Better overall...just get that physical media collection rolling. 😎

[@sparks869]

Time to give your kid two JTR subs as a housewarming gift. 🤣

[@Youthman]

He has a job. 🤣

[@uwsome1]

@@Youthman I have 2 SB1000 New in box 2 for the price of one.

[@michaelslocumbsr.2286]

MWAVE in Florida is what they experienced...Lol!

[@terjejacobsen2856]

Hi Michael. I know you are a subwoofer guy 😉 Can you tell me your thoughts about Arendal 1723 2v vs SVS Pb 17 ultra vs JTR RS1?

[@Youthman]

RS1 will have much lower extension than both SVS or Arendal. I’m getting down to 5Hz in my theater room with my RS2’s. I have not reviewed the PB17, but I would expect it to have similar output as Arendal 1723 2V. The app on Arendal has more features than SVS. Fit and finish is nicest on Arendal. You just have to decide which of those features are most important to you

[@902_Nick]

Howcome no one does basement in Florida? Generally curious. Im east coast and everyone had a basement

[@Youthman]

Because we’re a peninsula, our water table is so high, if you dig you’re going to hit water. I’ve only seen one person in Florida that I know of that has a basement, but they’re in the very north part of Florida where there are some hills

[@902_Nick]

@Youthman ahhhh okay. Thank you for the explanation

[@michaelcarver540]

My Sony and Yamaha system is like that u can feel it from ur ankles to ur chest

[@donjaun540]

Totally possible if they don't mind big speakers in big boxes, and $12k bill. 😁

[@yournightmare9999]

Bigger subwoofer is always better

[@MADFLEXFLAVA]

@@yournightmare9999 I absolutely agree, also to note it's not just about output as I find personally that larger subs have way better dynamic range when it comes to producing ambient ultra deep bass at low volume levels that you can still feel and hear is present when listening to a variety of different material, call it say "a disturbance in the force" that smaller subs just can't do properly unless pushed with much more output gain and which in turn has a direct impact on the bass being much more louder in the upper ranges that effect the transient response when trying to go infrasonic and remaining controlled throughout it's frequency response due to having less moving mass. Go big or go home!

[@yournightmare9999]

@MADFLEXFLAVA it's true, nothing to add, nothing to subtract

[@WillAnderson4]

They should buy Casa de Youthman!

[@Youthman]

I’m willing to sell it to them 😀

[@MrKrampyHands]

Jtr is absolutely amazing id personally rather have Arendal 1528's more is my endgame speakers for sure do a nice 7 or 9 channel system with 4 subs probably cust stereo integrity HST 18's 4 of them beast in vision enclosures my dream subs or the carbon fiber 24's they also make maybe 2-4 of each in my dreams more than likely but anything is possible i never thought id have what im rocking now got about 6k invested in my Monolith THX setup easily the best subs for the money and those Encore t6's C6, and B6's will now minds and do blue minds for what they cost it destroys my klipsch stop o was running

[@pauldorschner5449]

you,re home theater audio sistem is amazyng, and i,m glad you keep it, congratulations !!! hope you make videos from your new home theater in your new home,

[@bingdong8571]

Im pretty sure i enjoy building my theater more than using it. Am i going crazy?

[@Youthman]

Nope, you are enjoying the journey. Nothing wrong with that.

[@adamjohnson7325]

I have a PB-2000 pro as well. While it is nice, I need more bass 😊

[@Youthman]

The PB2000 is good for a smaller room.

[@stephengreen8058]

They probably have their subs flat whilst Michele has a boost in the low frequencies, might also account for the difference. Pb2000 should be fine for their room, it didn't look huge. Would love to invest in some bigger subs but they aren't economical this side of the pond.

[@JeffreyFrye]

​​​@@stephengreen8058 I actually use a +10dB Harman Curve for our setup, so definitely not flat as I mentioned in the video. We have some bad room modes that the dual subs help out so we still can get a good response down to about 15Hz. We just lose output/subs compress louder than ~105dB so the 10dB boost we have on the low end doesn't allow us to get everything we want. Not to mention the difference between just pressurization and movement of air from the larger surface area drivers in Michael's room. But yeah, I thought the PB-2000 Pros would be enough as well when we bought them and had zero home theater experience. There's just a crazy difference with these JTRs lol.

[@Youthman]

Even if you had dual PB 16s it would still be a massive difference with JTR. They are just on an entirely different level. Most subs cannot reach Infrasonics.

[@stephengreen8058]

Interesting. Maybe one day, larger subs are a little overpriced here

[@The3hunnaa]

Hey Michael great video. Just curious regarding JTR. I live in Canada, does JTR have an authorized dealer in Canada? and is there a way to find out what it’s priced at in CAD

[@Youthman]

We currently do not have a distributor in Canada, but will be working towards that in the future. It will just take us a while. But we can ship to Canada, feel free to send me an email with your shipping address, model, and quantities and I can get you a quote. [e-mail]

[@Youthman]

You would just be responsible for the taxes and fees

[@The3hunnaa]

Thanks for the info! I currently have 2 perlisten D15s and a 7.4 channel KEF R series(not reference series) setup. Maybe down the line I will get a JTR sealed sub to put right behind the couch. As it’s not economical for me to keep buying more perlisten subs hahaha. But also down the line I will be looking at either getting perlisten speakers or JTR. I just hope one day it will be possible to demo both brands out where I live

[@travismayes23]

jtr speakers are just a big black box ugly that sound really good

[@EyesofTheKeeper]

I'm rockin' two Rp-1400sw's and two r-115sw's placed in the corners of a 12x14x8 room, lol. Sub amp gain is about 30%. Receiver trims are about -6. Master gain powers on to -30 and unless I'm showing off like this for a demo, I usually watch a movie for real at -21 or so. Try not to exceed momentary peaks of 92dB and stay below an average of 85dB. 7.4.4 280f + 600m around.

[@nashvegas4476]

Got my RS2 hooked up today, amazing.

[@Youthman]

Awesome and congrats!

[@nashvegas4476]

@ This sub is unbelievable, I can only turn the gain up to 1/4! As soon as I get my Marantz Cinema 30 hooked up (its sitting in my closet) I will be using the full spectrum Dirac with bass control to get it tuned in. I am patiently waiting for the new LCR to be released.

[@Youthman]

My RS twos are about 1/3 gain an I’m at -6dB trim level in my Anthem AVM70

[@nashvegas4476]

@@Youthman What a great time to be alive and enjoy this fantastic technology, I was born in ‘79, total car stereo clown from about 95-‘07, went from Rockford and Orion, ended with Focal and JL. I really enjoy your videos, the best JTR advice and review to be found anywhere.

[@Youthman]

@nashvegas4476 thank you kindly.

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

Bigger is always better… they cal always just be turned down.

[@stephengreen8058]

I'm glad that in not the only one that things their anthem is around 10db louder than say marantz on the reference curve.

[@Youthman]

There’s definitely no thinking. Mark Giovanni texted me today after watching the video and said he calculated -19 DB was his reference on his Anthem. -20 wouldn’t be reference on my set up. You can easily have a conversation at that volume.

[@pittss2c601]

It depends. For music, I turn my sub down. For movies, turn it up. I'm already banging the house pretty hard. I don't want to re-drywall my house. It's really cool to see her involved. Very nice.

[@Youthman]

I’m opposite. I usually turn my subs up during music.

[@CycleCalm]

@@Youthman Yeah same, bass in music is usually mixed flat, whereas in movies it already has a rise toward lower frequencies in the mix itself (since cinemas and their mixing rooms are calibrated to be flat in the bass and midrange), plus there's the greater headroom and use of the LFE channel not present in 2CH music. You can compare how a song sounds when it's used in a movie vs how it is on a regular release, if it's one that wasn't composed for the movie, it will often have been tweaked to boost the bass when in the movie!

[@happydogg312]

​@CycleCalm I've noticed that. When I hear a good song in a movie and go find it to listen it isn't as impactful as it was in the movie.

[@pittss2c601]

@@Youthman You’ve said in the past you don’t listen to music on your HT system, and you don’t use a sub for your 2-channel system in your living room.

[@Youthman]

@pittss2c601 I’m probably 90% home theater and 10% music. I typically do not have a sub in the living room unless I’m reviewing one.

[@travismayes23]

One day I'll have jtr speakers like yours but it has to be behind the screen. those boys sound really really good from what you told me. but man man they're ugly compared to Klipsch

[@Youthman]

That’s exactly why we have been having discussions with Jeff to design JTR Speakers that look great so they can be used in the living room. The current JTR series is primarily designed for dedicated theater rooms.

[@littlewicky1]

You mentioned in another comment that the SVS PB16 are beaten by the infra soncis cabalities of the JTRs. I totally believe you but my mind can fathom what thats like. I own 2 PB16s, when running some measurements I had hit 120db @ 20hz and I got scared for the house. But hitting 100db+ at single digits is nuts!!

[@Youthman]

I’ve been told it would take 6-8 PB16’s to be able to get close to the same output at single digits as JTR

[@littlewicky1]

@@Youthman Yeah I have heard the same too. It doesnt help that the PB16s fall off like a rock below 20hz in theoretical output, but 6-8x subwoofer needed is crazy

[@Youthman]

Most subs take a dive below 20Hz

[@MyFatherLoves]

Couple of Danley Sound Labs TH118XL subs crossed down to a couple of the DTS-10 subs for the infrasonics DBA’d with another two pairs of the same would decimate fairly efficiently. Or a DBA of Captivator 4000’s could also do the same but for a lot more cash. Or a DBA of GSG Audio sealed dual 24’s. For the most budget oriented option. So many ways to peel a toupe’ back with bass.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

Lol yeah all in a 14 × 14 room.