They were left to rot in the field ⚔ Battle of Aughrim, 1691 ⚔ Dark day in Irish history

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6 ай бұрын

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The Battle of Aughrim by Michael McNally (EPUB ISBN: 978 0 7424 9658 0).
Kingdom Overthrown by Gerald Fitzgibbon (EPUB ISBN: 978-1-84840-476-2).
‘The Battle of Aughrim 1691’ by G. A. Hayes-McCoy in Journal of the Galway Archaeological and Historical Society.
The Battlefields of Ireland, from 1688-1691, including Limerick and Athlone, Aughrim and the Boyne by John Boyle (ASIN:‎ B074D1KXR5).
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@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

🚩 Have I got a big battle for you today! Battle of Aughrim (1691), perhaps the bloodiest encounter ever fought in the British Isles. It was the deciding battle in the conflict between Williamite and Jacobite forces, one year after the famous Battle of the Boyne, which I also covered here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIncao2Qmsegapo 🚩 Support HistoryMarche on Patreon and get ad-free early access to our videos for as little as $1: www.patreon.com/historymarche

@danielsantiagourtado3430 6 ай бұрын

Love your content man! You're the best 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

@nobleidowu4919 6 ай бұрын

I Love this channel and the whole package therein. Kindly do a video about African countries history. Maybe Ethiopia, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia or any other African country that may have a significant history. Grateful

@thestoic6242 6 ай бұрын

To pay tribute to the algorithm :) I really hope you'll find time and motivation to complete Hannibal's journey. It is one of the best series, honestly...

@ayethein7681 6 ай бұрын

I'm English, but I was near rooting for the Jacobites, following this. We think after the Boyne, it was over, but there was a proper campaign after that.

@antorseax9492 6 ай бұрын

Please look up how to say things. 'Tire connel'

@emperorstrider9541 6 ай бұрын

Missed opportunity to title the video "Aughrim day in Ireland".

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

Is that a thing? I can edit the title

@Skr121 6 ай бұрын

@@HistoryMarchea grim day. Aughrim day.

@jammyjamjars6995 6 ай бұрын

@@HistoryMarcheTbh, Irish people would appreciate it, but I think it would just confuse everyone else 😂

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

@@jammyjamjars6995 Yeah. I'll see how the current thumbnail and title are received, and will test "Aughrim day in Ireland" after a few days.

@ancorgarciaalvarez 6 ай бұрын

@@HistoryMarcheI have to say it's a nice word play xd

@WelcomeToDERPLAND 6 ай бұрын

Wow, a cannon shot hitting the command directly in the head is pretty insane from such a range.

@ancorgarciaalvarez 6 ай бұрын

A cannon shot hitting is pretty insane, period. XD

@peterstubbs5934 6 ай бұрын

Pretty lucky to hit anything aimed at except a gaggle of men.

@saberpendragon271 6 ай бұрын

The cannon rolled a NAT 20

@aronmarkovits5396 6 ай бұрын

Probably luck

@britishpatriot7386 6 ай бұрын

Will that include that for hundreds of years before the tables turned against Ireland that the Irish were invading England and slaughtered whole towns and cities and took hundreds of thousands of slaves and worse just like the Vikings. Isn't it amazing why you Irish love to miss out they were the first to draw blood but now we stopped it they are suddenly victims? stop picking out history for victim points it's pathetic 😂

@michaelsinger4638 6 ай бұрын

I’m half convinced that “Luck of the Irish” was just someone’s really dark/morbid joke.

@christianmccann9400 6 ай бұрын

Same here sadly ..

@Wolfen443 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I agree they fail when they really need to win at something important like these battles deciding their independence.

@webtoedman 6 ай бұрын

It wasn't a battle for Irish independence, it was a battle in a a campaign to decide which house of the English royal family was going to rule the three kingdoms of England, Ireland and Scotland. The only advantage of Jacobitism for the Irish was that the Stuarts were Catholic.@@Wolfen443

@kingofcards9516 6 ай бұрын

I believe the term was mockingly applied to us Irish during the famine. Though you might want to fact check me.

@gerardodwyer5908 Ай бұрын

@@webtoedman It was essentially a war between factions of Europe's royal houses fought using Danish, Prussuan, Austrian, Flemish, and even mercenaries from Balkans. Not an Irish war. A war partly fought in Ireland yes.

@indridcold1689 6 ай бұрын

As an irishman i would like to thank you for covering my countrys history and filling a gap, as Ireland is poorly covered by yt history channels. Keep up the great work.

@jeffreyrook8073 6 ай бұрын

This has become my favorite history doc channel partially because they fill the gaps. I had a chance to travel and decided to make a trip to Istanbul, through Bulgaria, Serbia, then to Budapest, largely inspired by the Historymarche videos on Eastern European conflicts. I enjoy that while my family all want to travel to Paris, Rome, and London, I can mention things I learned from this channel and see the look of shock from locals that a random American tourist knows about wars that are significant to their national identity.

@mullerreus145 6 ай бұрын

With good reason, it's just hundreds of years of us snatching defeat from the jaws of victory over the most stupid shit ever.

@olliefoxx7165 6 ай бұрын

That's what they called me back in the day..."Ol Gap Filler". Plugging gaps as best I could with varying degrees of success.

@zemurph 6 ай бұрын

@@mullerreus145fucking horrible isn't it. The amount of lucky breaks Britain got in so many wars against us is just gut wrenching. William a whisker away from getting obliterated by a cannonball, Hugh O'Neill having the English on the ropes but dying of disease. The most painful thing to listen to in all histories of the conquest of Ireland though is the level of disagreement and infighting from ancient Ireland right up to the flight of the Earls. When the enemy was at the gate, even when they were about to be wiped out, they still couldn't put aside petty differences and fight as a confederacy, or even worse were all too willing to sell the other out

@ian_b 6 ай бұрын

As an Englishman I too would like to see more about your history.

@colmmcg100 6 ай бұрын

We need to see a 9 years war series !!

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

Augrhim was requested a lot by viewers in the comments. So if it performs well, I might do more Jacobite vs Williamite and the Nine Years' War battles.

@colmmcg100 6 ай бұрын

@HistoryMarche BRILLIANT! thanks a lot for covering irish history as a long-time fan of yt history channels it always gets me giddy when I see you covering my countries history!❤️

@corylarsen5788 6 ай бұрын

Seconded!

@robert-surcouf 6 ай бұрын

There's too few victories and too manies english defeats to talk about it.

@SerialChiller1000 6 ай бұрын

Indeed. Ireland's greatest victories over England and Scotland should be covered. Those being the battles of Yellow Ford and Benburb.

@kevinbergin5936 6 ай бұрын

As someone who grew up near to this place (Ballinasloe, Co. Galway), I want to thank you so much for putting together this video which explains so well how the decisive battle between the Williamites and the jacobites came about, and how the Battle of Aughrim itself developed and ended so catastrophically for the Jacobites from a seemingly winning position. 7,000 lives lost makes it one of the bloodiest, if not the bloodiest battles on these Islands, Driving past the village of Aughrim today, there is no visual indication on the landscape that such a monumental event in Irish history happened here. There is an excellent interpretive Center in Aughrim village, and the main flash points of the battle are explained locally with signage, but from what I can find, this is the first visual animated display of how the battle itself panned out, a battle that consigned Ireland to its fate for the next 230 years. It is worth a hundred pages of reading. Well done, it took a while, but from the amount of viewing it has got inside a week (133k), it was well worth waiting for.

@eoinbergin28 Ай бұрын

Thank you for your input

@wedgeantillies66 6 ай бұрын

Basically Irish War of 1690-91, could be seen to have been decided by the shot of a cannon ball in respect to both Boyne and Aughrim. As at the Boyne, William III twice escaped death narrowly at the hands of a cannonball, before leading his troops to victory. While at Aughrim, it was the loss of their commander to a lucky cannon shot, that spelt the doom of the Jacobite army.

@JeffBruton1 2 ай бұрын

Thank you. As an American with Irish roots, this was very informative and helpful in understanding the flow of power in western Ireland. Thank you

@KHK001 6 ай бұрын

Amazing work as always HM!

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

Glad you like it! Thanks for commenting KHK!

@iben3271 6 ай бұрын

attention seeker, u couldve seen 5 mins max lmao

@dendradwar9464 6 ай бұрын

Luttrell the Irish cavalry commanders who refused to attack the Williamites as they broke through on the causeway were forever after suspected of treachery. Luttrell at the 2nd siege of Limerick was caught writing letters to the Williamites and narrowly avoided hanging. He was murdered in Dublin 15 years later, no-one was ever convicted but the legend has it was done at the hands of Jacobite veteran.

@nickhaynie5980 6 ай бұрын

Wow, I realize now how popular it was for the various Monarchs to hire professional soldiers to lead and fight their wars

@3rdsmite766 6 ай бұрын

But did you also realize that William and Ginkel were Dutch?

@Loromir17 6 ай бұрын

@@3rdsmite766 WILHELMUS VAN NASSOUWE BEN ICK VAN DUYTSCHEN BLOEDT

@paulkirk7120 6 ай бұрын

The idea of National State Armies was still very much in its infancy.

@freebeerfordworkers 6 ай бұрын

Then it got much worse kings had usually to pay for their soldiers in hard cash it was ingenious that the French and the revolution came up with a far better idea of paying them in a currency they never ran out of - Ideas.@@paulkirk7120

@timhare9867 6 ай бұрын

I’d heard about the battle of the Boyne. Even read a book about it. But I’d never heard of this battle.

@theawesomeman9821 6 ай бұрын

me either

@carterschell9518 6 ай бұрын

Love to see historymarche upload notifications!!

@rangerista3933 Күн бұрын

Great to see this crucial battle covered in such detail.

@colonialjim9154 6 ай бұрын

Always make time for my HistoryMarche videos!

@nikolasdemoulin8093 6 ай бұрын

A helluva shot. Took his head off with a fuvkin canon across an entire battlefield. Dude died like an absolute warrior, though. Admirable. War is hell. The least the leadership can do is join in. If only modern politicians were forced to fight in the wars they start. There’d probably be less of them.

@mohammedsaysrashid3587 6 ай бұрын

Another wonderful historical coverage video was shared by an amazing ( History Marche) channel. Thank you for your respectful ( History Marche) channel for sharing

@andreichelaru3130 6 ай бұрын

These videos are the greatest and I am always watching them with the pleasure of learning new things.

@paulkirk7120 6 ай бұрын

Excellent stuff. Really enjoyed this one.

@dannybananas132 14 күн бұрын

As a Irish man i appreciate your videos and the time you took to edit it for us all to comprehend . good job lad,

@bmcc8093 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for covering our history 👍

@dag6 4 ай бұрын

Epic level narration. What a great voice for this.

@brucestewart2487 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the content. Wars and battles will never end. They knew how to get down in the past.

@taniadescoteaux5577 6 ай бұрын

i can watch this all day ... best Channel for this kind of video !

@neilsimpson3181 6 ай бұрын

Very informative and well presented. Thank you.

@derekbyrne3494 6 ай бұрын

Great Vid... love this channel. Big thumbs up!

@imJet 6 ай бұрын

Great video :) Really been enjoying your guys' Byzantine Empire videos, would love to see more of those!

@EJobuu 6 ай бұрын

Excellent video as always.

@christopherthrawn1333 6 ай бұрын

As always keep up the great work.

@nobleidowu4919 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much

@VIPERASSASSIN 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for you chanel from France ! 🇨🇵

@TheNorman1169 22 күн бұрын

Great work guys. Would love more Irish content.

@davidangelo8902 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the interesting story!!

@brainflash1 6 ай бұрын

Because that's what ALWAYS happens when a Frenchman leads a cavalry charge.

@thibaultsardet7399 6 ай бұрын

A bit like the Brits in Crimea.

@colonelturmeric558 5 ай бұрын

British cavalry in crimea were loose cannon units, absolute mad lads but tactically lacking

@brainflash1 5 ай бұрын

@@colonelturmeric558 No, their orders were terrible.

@wilfredjurassicyes 6 ай бұрын

These vids are so freaking edit: "cool" dude. I absoloutly love this channel.

@4sakenreaper42 6 ай бұрын

Great video about a topic I had no knowledge of

@Maixo 4 ай бұрын

Very good account of a major event in Irish history 👍

@robpeters5186 Ай бұрын

It was a great battle. Thanks for the info

@TheStrategos392 6 ай бұрын

I remember once reading in Clausewitz “On War” that at the crucial moment of battle, all forces must concentrate to defeat the enemy. Why in god’s good name would St. Ruth not engage his cavalry sitting immobile on his left, when the English center had been broken? Makes no sense. He had the English on the ropes, and refused to deliver the final knock out blow.

@neiloflongbeck5705 6 ай бұрын

Probably because he feared that his flanks were under more pressure than was real.

@paulkirk7120 6 ай бұрын

St Ruth couldn't launch his mounted Irish gainst the Williamite centre because their horses would have handled crossing the bog even worse that the Williamite Foot had. There was also the problem that 2/3 of the Mounted Irish were Dragoons rather than Heavy Cavalry and no match in a straight fight. The Williamite Heavy Cavalry outnumbered their Irish opponents by almost two to one.

@chigeryelam4061 6 ай бұрын

Probably St Ruth hadn't read 'On War' since Clausewitz wasn't born until 1780, but I might be wrong. ;p

@godardvanreede8606 5 ай бұрын

It wasn't an English army. It was a Dutch led Allied army

@lollius88 5 ай бұрын

@@godardvanreede8606 most of its troops were english, appart from a few huegenout and danish mercs. Only the overall commander was dutch, as the dutch blue guards had been recalled before the campaign. Dont try to claim our history swamp german

@detroitdave9512 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic stuff!

@stephengose6733 4 ай бұрын

Wow! thank you for your narrative!

@HolyGhost666 3 ай бұрын

Well done, love your hre content

@LordFreedom1945 6 ай бұрын

Love it ! Want more video like this... old school war

@coyote4237 6 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@robbabcock_ 6 ай бұрын

What a terrific video!

@trajanz9557 6 ай бұрын

Every time I watch your videos after a few months of not watching I get the urge to play grand strategy. It's the weekend and now it's gone. Thanks.

@brianivey73 3 ай бұрын

Fantastic sir!

@paulgunderman2702 4 ай бұрын

sacrifice request duly noted! engaging .......... now! Well Done BTW. Learned something new!

@kamilkadzik6661 4 күн бұрын

Great video 👌

@awmirj2414 6 ай бұрын

Man this voice is so great for describing historical stuff

@arturwagnerjr.6669 6 ай бұрын

The world is still suffering the consequences from the white rose defeat.

@qsdvb 11 күн бұрын

I was reading about the French defensive and offensive strategies in the buildup to the 9 yr war. If France had not been challenged or adopted their approaches in the first instance then the world definitely would be a different place. One of those really clear history turning points.

@raymondjelich185 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your presentation on the Battle of the Aughrim. I was familiar with the Battle of the Boyne but not that of Aughrim.

@dansmith4077 6 ай бұрын

For the algorithm love your videos

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much man

@SexyIrishPartyMonkey 3 күн бұрын

Iv waited 6 years for this 😂 the history runs deep. Thank you kindly

@katharinebarker5222 5 ай бұрын

Micks and frogs, what could go wrong?

@jeffreyrook8073 6 ай бұрын

No idea where he lives, but the thought just occurred to me that I'm not sure how I'd react if I met some stranger at a bar, said hello, and heard David McCallion's voice reply... no way I'd fail to recognize it at this point. Also, as some others have commented, I appreciate that such a large channel covers topics not often traversed. While my family was shocked to hear my choice, in a recent chance to travel, I took a trip through the capitals of Turkiye, Bulgaria, Serbia, and Hungary, largely because the history I learned from this channel had me fascinated at that meeting ground of empires. Freaking phenomenal region btw, if anyone can go. Love your work. Keep it up.

@boilingpoint760 6 ай бұрын

How lucky do you have to be to pick off a specific individual (half a kilometer away, hidden among a dust cloud, through heavy smoke) with a 17th century cannon and score a headshot?

@davidpoole5595 6 ай бұрын

Like they say in hockey Good things happen when you shoot the puck towards the net

@timclinton9427 6 ай бұрын

Back in my day a headshot was a headshot 🚭⚔️💣😲💥🤯👻

@donaldmaxie5264 4 ай бұрын

Nothing beats dumb luck.

@SuperChuckRaney 3 ай бұрын

there is a French Cuirassier breast plate from Waterloo that took a cannon ball. It's curious that the weight of it didn't just SMASH the whole man, but it made a hole, size of a fist. Very inpressive. The plate also has several "little dinkers" that look like spent musket balls. Has to be a lucky shot, just "aiming in the general direction". It does show how WELL they can aim.

@JK-ex6rn 6 ай бұрын

good video and always good to see your eyes into the heart and mind of the various battles on the battlefield. I wanted to ask you how you find all this information about all those matches? is it in texts from bygone times and if so? How do you access them? Best regards from here and have a good day❤

@charlesjohnson6777 6 ай бұрын

Awesome 👌

@briansugrue1229 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@HistoryMarche 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for supporting my channel! Very kind of you.

@cryptoyt756 6 ай бұрын

Poggle! Another HistoryMarche upload

@bigsarge2085 6 ай бұрын

Incredible.

@donkeykong1234 6 ай бұрын

love the headless graphic

@RemusKingOfRome 6 ай бұрын

Excellent.

@BounceBackBelfast 6 ай бұрын

Being from Northern Ireland I'm glad you've started covering irish history ❤

@uxbf_hdnc 6 ай бұрын

Northern Ireland?!!! UK is occupying your land .. there is one Ireland

@paulkirk7120 6 ай бұрын

@@uxbf_hdncyer ma...

@TastySandwich100 6 ай бұрын

@@uxbf_hdnc🇬🇧🇬🇧

@BounceBackBelfast 6 ай бұрын

@@uxbf_hdnc how can the UK occupy the UK? 🤣

@uxbf_hdnc 6 ай бұрын

@@BounceBackBelfast UK as a government ..like usa invaded Texas from Mexico

@noah-gs8tl 6 ай бұрын

thx for doing somthing about Ireland history ( i think it’s english and dutch is well not sure). thanks love your channel.

@danielsantiagourtado3430 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this man! The dedinitive death of the jacobite cause! The great victory for William III! You're awesome! Please do the conquest of granada!😊😊😊😊

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

Indeed. I'll see how this one performs. Aughrim was requested a lot in the comments, so that's why I did the video. If it performs well, maybe I'll add more Williamite vs Jacobite topics + Nine Years' War battles.

@danielsantiagourtado3430 6 ай бұрын

@@HistoryMarche Awesome! James ii really earninf his irish nickname too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@eslermanu47 Ай бұрын

Brilliant

@moistmike4150 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic channel!!! SUB'D BABY!! YEAH!!

@constantinexii8182 6 ай бұрын

Cant wait for basil ii next episode

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

Coming soon

@constantinexii8182 6 ай бұрын

@@HistoryMarche Great thanks for replying

@bee-l-zee-bub4298 Ай бұрын

I lived in a town near Aughrim, and my sister worked near the town at a hotel. Never knew the history of it before this video.

@blazecraft5429 6 ай бұрын

new hannibal video when? btw big fan of yours.keep up this good work!!!!

@HistoryMarche 6 ай бұрын

Should be soon.

@SolidAvenger1290 6 ай бұрын

@HistoryMarche take your time and attending your dad. We know you are creating great content across the board and we rather have the next Hannibal video to be perfect than be rushed. Testing the waters with other parts of history, gauging the target audience, and upgrading the video graphics can also make a big difference in the end. Can't wait for the next chapter HM

@bastogne315 Ай бұрын

OchhRim..please. as in the Scottish Och...Och eye! Beautiful production. Thank-you ❤❤

@Destruction_Bay_Gaming1800 6 ай бұрын

Pretty interesting. From one fellow historian to another, I can only hope you do the 1689, 1715, 1719 and 1745 Jacobite Rebellions (all of them), in classic detail. And yes, somehow, I can form a better Scottish accent than Mel Gibson. And I'm American. :)

@neiloflongbeck5705 6 ай бұрын

Ah, but which Scottish accent?

@Destruction_Bay_Gaming1800 6 ай бұрын

@@neiloflongbeck5705 Scrooge McDuck's.

@neiloflongbeck5705 6 ай бұрын

@@Destruction_Bay_Gaming1800 original or David Tennant?

@adammielniczek7584 6 ай бұрын

of course you are... U Americans can form anything and everything better- yet 99.9% of yee,cant say how many continents there are.

@adammielniczek7584 6 ай бұрын

@@neiloflongbeck5705 He`s from America and can do everything better

@SirAntoniousBlock 6 ай бұрын

A dark day indeed, to add to all the others.

@nuztotosha 3 ай бұрын

Good afternoon! Nice, thank You! What di You think about the previous battles in Ireland at begin of XVII century (battle of Kinsale, for example)?

@zhyarbakhtyar9961 6 ай бұрын

hello historymarche. this channel has inspired me to make my own documentaries with my local mid-eastern language , if the creator of this channel makes a tutorial about how they make these awesome maps it would mean the world to me. thanks

@joewright2304 4 ай бұрын

Cool !

@RecoveringAhole 6 ай бұрын

More Irish history ! 🍀

@bastogne315 Ай бұрын

And gay history.

@spenceralbin344 6 ай бұрын

Well Done battle video. What was the range of artillerary (sic). Amazing that the cannon battery saw the commander and cannon balls hit him.

@Guangrui 6 ай бұрын

Yet another piece of bloody history

@davidhunt8685 6 ай бұрын

That was a good one :-)

@IsaacRaiCastillo 6 ай бұрын

Well, that's what happened when you let a Frenchman take the reins of the military strategy of your armies in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. It cost Ireland and the Jacobites the end of their cause, while it cost the Spanish the definitive loss of all their European territories (which they successfully defended for almost two centuries) and Gibraltar; Although in the War of the Polish Succession, Sicily and Southern Italy were recovered (especially because the command was Spanish and not French), but no one talks about it on KZbin history channels. XD

@doritofeesh 6 ай бұрын

Really depends on the Frenchman in question though. If I recall, Berwick and Vendome did rather well for Bourbon Spain in the War of the Spanish Succession; Habsburg Spain was more so let down in that conflict by the Allies.

@IsaacRaiCastillo 6 ай бұрын

@@doritofeesh Yes, you are right, although in the case of the War of Spanish Succession, the Frenchman who failed was the most important of all, who was the "Sun King" Louis XIV himself; The idea of wanting to take his ambitions to the point of charging a Spain that was in full institutional and military transition, as Philip V had, into a world war, was a fatal miscalculation. Despite what has been read by recent Spanish historians, that the state of Charles II's Spanish army was not as backward as international and especially French historiography have wanted to make it clear (mainly those written by delegates of Philip V when he arrived to the kingdom), because at the end of the day they came from a war like that of the Nine Years, where in order to fight, it was necessary to be in line with the other armies of the conflict (otherwise the Empire would not have survived); The truth is that adapting the French war model would take more time, especially in the naval area, which was where the Empire suffered the most and it is the lack of coordination that harmed Spain the most in the conflict. Returning to the topic, internationally everyone had accepted the will of Charles II that Philip of Bourbon be his successor and no one would have supported the Habsburg demands for the throne, however Louis XIV wanted more and recklessly provoked the allies by leaving see his intentions for the French and Spanish crowns to unite, something that convinced everyone to support the Austrians in their claims and when the war began without sufficient preparation, Spain ended up losing the Spanish Netherlands, Milan and Southern Italy, in addition to Menorca and Gibraltar, a fatal miscalculation for Louis XIV and his initial strategy in the war; If it were not for the fact that Philip V continued to resist successfully in the Iberian Peninsula, along with those two French generals that you mentioned (the only two good French generals of the entire war, along with Villars), the Bourbons would not currently exist in Spain, since Louis was even on the verge of throwing in the towel with the English demands to accept the defeat. The best thing would have been to leave the two crowns separate from the beginning, giving Philip V time to organize the Empire better for himself and thereby gain a stronger ally for his European claims before he died in 1715 (something that Philip V would have achieved by 1705 or 1707, if it had not been for the war, since it took 4 or 5 years to prepare the Spanish army for the War of the Quadruple Alliance).

@doritofeesh 6 ай бұрын

@@IsaacRaiCastillo Yeah, it's not often talked about, but while Louis XIV did centralize his authority in France, it was not all on his own merit and the era of turmoil he faced from the period of the Fronde until the conflict with Spain was over during the mid-17th century was a close call that would have been the end of his regime if not for the illustrious Marechal Turenne. Strategically, most of Louis XIV's wars have sort of ended in failure. His wars against the Dutch, for example, where they flooded their own country in 1672 and he was prevented from making headway; then, Conde was poorly-resourced and outnumbered in that theatre which led to the hard fought stalemate at Seneffe. Luxembourg was provided sizable armies to fight after those two great generals, but he only ever won tactical victories without achieving a decisive strategic outcome. Even the War of the Spanish Succession was folly on his end and the true winner of that conflict turned out to be the British (always butting in and exploiting conflicts to reap the most benefit for themselves from the 18th to 19th century). Hell, if not for Villars putting up such a strong performance, Marlborough and Eugene would have just steamrolled through to Paris and Louis would have been as defeated as Napoleon was in 1814. In fact, this might very well have happened had the British not withdrawn Marlborough from Allied command (but of course they did so, because such an Allied victory was not in their own favour). In fact, on a direct comparison, Louis XIV was even more ambitious than Napoleon was, but it could be said that he was luckier to have many great commanders bail him out of situations on account of his lackluster understanding of warfare. Case in point during the WSS alone, where Berwick/Vendome recovered the situation from the Allies in Bourbon Spain and Villars recovered the war in the Nederlands and on the Rhine after Marlborough's dismissal by outmanoeuvring Eugene twice in 1712 and 1713.

@IsaacRaiCastillo 6 ай бұрын

@@doritofeeshI think no one could say or explain it better than you, you are absolutely right, King Louis XIV is held in high esteem in history for the hegemony he exercised in Europe after the Spanish defeat in the mid-seventeenth century, but the truth is that after Turenne, all his wars were missed opportunities and several disasters as you mention. Philip V's stubbornness made the war drag on and end in a way that benefited the Bourbon cause, and his generals decided the conflict in the Iberian Peninsula and Netherlands to the Sun King's advantage; although, as you say, the only winners were the British, who always had the diplomatic skill to convince several kingdoms or countries to go to war on their side without any benefits for their cause (because Austria would lose Naples and Sicily shortly after in the War of the Polish Succession, so that in the end they would have almost no gains from the War of the Spanish Succession, apart from Milan and Belgium, which were problematic territories), while the English managed in each war to consolidate their commercial and territorial empire at the expense of Netherlands, Spain and France.