Thief PC Game Review

Thief is a stealth video game developed by Eidos Montreal and published by Square Enix. It is a revival of the cult classic Thief series of stealth games, of which it is the fourth game. It was released for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One platforms on February 25, 2014 in North America, on February 27, 2014 in Australia and February 28, 2014 in Europe.
Players control Garrett, a master thief, as he intends to steal from the rich. Similar to previous games in the series, players must use stealth in order to overcome challenges, while violence is left as a minimally effective last resort.
Gameplay is choice-driven, with players having a number of possible paths and approaches in a given level. Players may use the environment to their advantage, as well as pickpocket characters. As Garrett attempts to steal in levels, guards and other non-player characters (if they are aware of his presence) will try to flush him out and kill him. Different NPCs may use different means to find him, and the game's artificial intelligence will be aware of the level design, and therefore, know of potential hiding spots.
Players may enter a "Focus" mode, which provides several advantages. It enhances Garrett's vision, highlighting pipes that can be climbed, or candles that can be put out to make the area darker. Focus can also slow down time, so that Garrett is able to steal more effectively while pickpocketing. Garrett can also use Focus to push enemies or perform debilitating attacks. It can be further upgraded over the course of the game.
Garrett carries a blackjack, used to knock guards unconscious; a collapsible, compound bow, which can be used for both combat and non-lethal purposes such as distracting guards; and a claw, which can be used to grapple. Players may use money to purchase supplies and equipment at the end of missions.
An EXP system for the in-game growth of the character was meant to be used in the final game, but was later scrapped due to negative fan feedback, and to reflect the fact that the character was already an experienced thief.

[@hawkeyegough9090]

i think yahtzee put it best in relation to his character new garret: i steal because it is what i do *batman scowl* old garret: because it's the only thing i'm good at and i need to pay rent so shut up and let go of your wallet

[@ThatGingerCuntFromTerminator2]

Wipty doo.

[@giannidecker2790]

i guess Im asking randomly but does anyone know a trick to log back into an instagram account? I stupidly lost my login password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me.

[@yaelronald2280]

@Gianni Decker instablaster ;)

[@raistakilhara]

my opinion is .... if u played the 3 first thiefs, this game will dissapoint u, if this is the first thief u played then u will be happy to know there is 3 games much better than this

[@SorryBones]

I think it’s perfectly valid, or even warranted, to compare reboots to the originals. They picked the IP for a reason, so it’s important to hold it to its own standards, even when the motivation for picking it is money and profit. If Thief was a gears of war style third person shooter set in the future, people wouldn’t say “Dont judge it on its predessors.” Studios should be taking the opportunity to expand on the gameplay of previous titles using modern day tech, not boiling away the complexities of the characters and mechanics to sell a gray mush to everyone. Thief 2014 has plenty of flaws in its own right, but the reason people compare it to the old ones is because that is its greatest flaw. How can it be so bland and tedious compared to titles from 20 years ago? I wish publishers would take a hint and realize bastardizing old IPs will result in a game that appeals neither to the original fans or potential new customers.

[@darkentity1000]

The new voice actor does a good job and he sounds like Garrett too. But the writing is god awful, and really doesn't do the character justice.

[@doalwa]

Bought this game on release, never finished it. That final boss fight broke my spirit. The game had some nice elements, I liked the athmosphere of the city...but it couldn’t hold a candle to the original trilogy. Damn, commenting on 5 year old videos...this Corona shit really gets to me 🤣

[@timeforown2234]

Ur not alone

[@olgierdvoneverec9411]

Lol, the final boss is easy as fuck xD

[@reloadedspade176]

Yeah this was my first introduction to the Thief series like 7 years ago on the Xbox unfortunately. And for it's time, I thought that it was the shit but after watching Gman's review on the first two, I decided to pick up the 2nd game and realized how much better it was in literally every aspect of it's gameplay and styled compared to the reboot lol.

[@a.m.pietroschek1972]

On Thief - Deadly Shadows: I hope you didn't miss the ``Sneaky Upgrade´´ patch! Could make it worth a replay. ;-) How is your Nosferatu thief doing in Vampire the Masquerade - Bloodlines? Werner Spahl patch mandatory.

[@YunkBread]

Commenting on this 2 years later whoooo

[@zedre7633]

Biggest gripe I have with the game is that it completely takes the feeling of _freedom_ from Garrett's movement. You're stuck looking for that R2 prompt to climb onto the ledge or the X prompt to pickpocket someone, wich sometimes just doesn't show up and it ends with you bumping into a guard and failing a mission because of it. I don't mind the changes to different surfaces having to difference to the noise you make unless you run, though. It always felt awkward as hell that a "super thief" wore such noisy shoes when going into a heist. And while they're not that great, I do enjoy the nods to the classic Thief games with the ruined Keeper Library under the House of Blossoms and Lady Moira(T3)'s Asylum.

[@noblealfred5010]

So, when are you planning on a review for Styx Master of Shadows. And the entirety of the Splinter Cell series.

[@Gggmanlives]

Not any time soon.

[@stuffedsheepshead]

Oh Sam Fisher, how far you have fallen at the hands of the malevolent Ubisoft.

[@imafatbastard6193]

@@Gggmanlives any chance you ll ever do the hitman series? I wonder if you like them

[@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643]

@@Gggmanlives your complaint on the combat made no sense..the point of the game is to avoid and stealthily dispatch your enemies...if they created a combat that you could dispatch your enemies then It will defeat the purpose of stealth mechanics and the point of the game.

[@solidsnake8480]

@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 look at dishonored, that game is obviously inspired by thief but with superpowers, that game has combat and it works in favor of the game, if you fail to play stealthy, you have to engage in combat or reset to the last checkpoint, you get the bad ending if you kill too much so the game basically asks you to be more stealthy. Hitman and Splinter Cell let you go in guns blazing (9/10 times doing that is suicide), and as a result you get a low rank, point is its always good to have a choice between stealth and combat

[@YayforGameplays]

I played this game from start to end and collected a lot of the optional loot and I have to say that I found it a very very very enjoyable experience... I DID NOT play the previous thief games AT ALL so maybe that is why... I played on costum difficulty of 700 points and I loved it... :/

[@thedawg199370]

This game looks like a poor man's Dishonored, not a Thief game.

[@thedawg199370]

I recently played a demo of Thief and I must say the game is a pile of utter wank. I prefer Dishonored over the Thief reboot by far. However the original Thief games were fantastic, even if they are noticeably dated.

[@thedawg199370]

It was stupid of them to take inspiration from games inspired by the original Thief games.

[@thedawg199370]

They took everything Dishonored did... Apart from quality and the freedom to carry out the job however you wanted. In Dishonored, you have complete freedom and a multitude of ways to carve your own path leading up to your target, executing the target and leaving the scene. On Thief, however, it never feels like you're carving your own path, but finding somebody else's path and following it.

[@terryjones5049]

It is.

[@Sadin15]

lol honestly I was so glad Dishonored happened...and then in Dishonored 2 they brought Stephen Russell

[@johnny5805]

"In the end, it all just falls on it's arse...." - the Aussiest game summary EVER ! :-)

[@r3v4n21]

I already knew this game wont live up to the other Thief games when Garett said that he would never kill a person.

[@mauzer4457]

you CAN kill enemies though

[@r3v4n21]

Swag Well then his statement is completely pointless

[@cyborgsoup8753]

It's making him batman because people like batman?

[@Acsabi44]

+CyborgSoup old garret would never kill a person. If u crank the difficulty to hardest in any old thief game you are not allowed to kill anybody because "you are a master thief not a murderer"

[@cyborgsoup8753]

Acsabi44 Fair, enough I do remember playing through Thief 1 and not killing anyone you got me there.

[@DrearierSpider1]

Not sure how you can say the sound design was polished, I had it bug out on me quite a bit (enemies several rooms away sounded like they were right next to me and other shit like that). Maybe that stuff only happens on certain setups.

[@Gggmanlives]

DrearierSpider1 Yeah I fucked up on that point. The sound design is horrible. Don't know what I was smoking when I wrote the review.

[@TheTUGAfreak]

+DrearierSpider1 I had this glitch, multiple times, where the sound would just stop completely except for garret's footsteps

[@jpkdesignz]

I agree to all your critcal points, *except* the one about the _lenghty animations_. Sure, they slow you down heavily, especially in its amount of loot to steal it might get annoying, but all those animations give you the most real body-feeling any Firts Person-Game has ever had for me. You can see your body when looking down, there are no doors closed by ghosts etc. And I think the animations are splendid and really fluid; they give weight to your stealing. If the objects would just magically disappear from the desk and reappear in your pocket whilst your hands did nothing, it just seems ridiculous, just as the horrid slap on the guards heads in the previous Thief-games - how would anyone ever get unconscious by that?!

[@PhrygianPhrog]

+Jermaine Prince agreed, I LOVE it when games do that.

[@NeflewitzInc]

From what I gather a compromise between the two extremes would be the ideal solution. Speed up the animations a little bit or make the hand shoot out towards the object you're interacting with without it taking too long. It might also give a sense of Garret being a more experienced thief, able to quickly stow things in his pockets or recognize valuable items.

[@masterexploder9668]

Stealing animation are indeed fine, but they just start to drag out when you pick up every possible thing worth 10 coins or something. Would be easier if there was less to steal but it was more important, instead of being small time thief and taking every possible thing. You could now ask the question: where Garett can stuff all of this?

[@theeternal2734]

Realism isn't the point in stealing or takedowns, it's for convenience so it doesn't drag on the experience into stopping you every 5 seconds, picking up loot or knocking a guy out . Plus if someone whacked you in the back of the head with a blackjack which is essentially a club, you'd be knocked out

[@pastelfromgreece9603]

it seems cool for the first couple of mins or hours but when you play the game more the same animation plays and it gets boring and annoying, in thief 1, 2, and 3 you point you click, done! now go steal other stuff. You don't always need arms and legs to be immersed, take Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon ( 2001 ) as an example.

[@Xamarth1]

I really don't think that the animation for stealing and interacting with objects is a bad thing. I think it's really good. It makes it look real. If you really stole things and flicked switches you'll see your hands. I think the animations make the game look good.

[@whatchachattin]

The animation is the best thing about this game, the problem is how many silver spoons garett feels are worth stealing

[@arctodus3371]

I don't think it's the animations themselves, but more the fact that you play the animation a ridiculous amount of times in each level. If you had to do it less, it'd be better.

[@alec4025]

I disagree 100%

[@elgatochurro]

they take time though, i dont need to SEE my hands grab the loot, the old click and theyre in your bag was fine.

[@randomfox12245]

Whenever someone says it's not right to compare this game to the old Thief games, I just think of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqqcmYGBmp5mq5Ih24m8s

[@RevanStarrrR]

5:31 Don't you think its a bit stupid to complain about having to avoid enemies in a STEALTH game?

[@Gggmanlives]

No. You should be able to incapacitate enemies if you wish.

[@RevanStarrrR]

Gggmanlives Which you can. Still, stealth games are primarily about avoiding enemies.

[@SwornHeresy]

+RevanBladeZ Bullshit. It's about avoiding detection.

[@RevanStarrrR]

Robert Shepherd Avoiding enemies completely is obviously the more skillful way to do it and its also what an actual thief would do.

[@SwornHeresy]

RevanBladeZ That is what an actual Thief would do. But Thief isn't the only game in the stealth genre. There is more than just Thief, Sonny Jim.

[@Birmanncat]

Things I miss in this game: free movement in all directions (jumping, mantling, rope arrows attachable to everything made of wood), getting lost in a ginormous levels, sandbox feeling in almost every mission, emphasis on sound design, ability to blast the door with my sword, supernatural creatures, tools that existed just for lols (oil flask+fire arrow combo?), very stylish animated cutscenes, hand-drawn maps, distinct factions. And also colors other than grey-blue palette.

[@bungus87]

Good review, as always. I know how hard it can be to leave bias out of this, but you pulled it off.

[@Gothenburg1]

now said, I played for the first time the game this year with a good rig and maxed out graphic and without any HUD or indicator max dfficulty. Its simply the most beautiful and immersive game I played for years. Graphics are incredible, not only technicaly but in terms of art design its an exeptionnal victorian setting. The no HUD option is just perfect you have all the feedback in game necessay to deal with, like the shaking fingers while lockpicking etc, Difficulty is quite good you really feel they work on it. Okay the level design is not comparable to a game like thief to but they are more vibrant more conssistant and organics, the game at release date was not even able to deal with what it offers then imagine with seamless maps like in thief 2 with 3d setting like nowdays... A great game.

[@Gothenburg1]

@@Cenot4ph we cant blame you to be a limited individual

[@justclayhead]

The butcher looks exactly like Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York

[@Yakushi0Mikatsu]

A blend of the Amnesia The Dark Descent and thief 1 or 2 mechanics would be great

[@simonemancuso3576]

I know this is 6 years old now, but damn, I was hoping for Gloomwood

[@Yakushi0Mikatsu]

@@simonemancuso3576 gloomwood is like that actually lol, glad that game is being made

[@simonemancuso3576]

@@Yakushi0Mikatsu Do you think so? Ist's been a was since they released updates, to my knowledge, that is

[@Yakushi0Mikatsu]

@@simonemancuso3576 yeah, its level design is nowhere near as free as thief, much more of a narrative game. Its stil pretty close though

[@zrust451]

From my experience, the highs of this game only gets about as high as Deadly Shadows, while the lows are lowest in the series.

[@justus4justice]

I was really disappointed to see how this game turned out. The first two Thief games single-handedly turned me into a PC gamer, and I still to this day consider them my favorite games of all time. I guess I shouldn't be terribly surprised however...Looking Glass Studios were in a class of their own. It's really annoying that an amazing developer like that had to close their doors while EA is still alive and well after all this time when all they do is re-release the same shit every year.

[@filipbodnar2947]

I think seeing garret reaching out to grab loot and so on is pretty sweet it makes it all fell verynbelievable and i havent seen many games doing it. It seems like the only bad animation that i disagree in every game that has this is the third person view cause that just puts out of the moment and this game does almost everything in fps mode and looks distracting (even if good looking) when garret switches to tp mode while climbing and so on.

[@sablesanctum]

It doesn't seem very believable when his right hand is ready to snatch the loot before the drawer is even open when there is something in there, and completely absent when there is nothing to grab.

[@hannibalburgers477]

Yet you move like a smoke ghost when you lunge foward to pickpocket somebody

[@NaruneWatercrest]

Having never played the original first two games, I really enjoyed this game, but had a big issue with some of the confusing level design.

[@monikaszalkowska9419]

The problem with this is narrative, because while the narrative is painful I still loved The City Hub ( sneaky murder of guard patrolls) and I liked Garret. My main problem is that it started as a sequel ( hence erin) to Thief 3 and then they were like " No,no,no, let's make this a reboot". And it ended up being 2 stories crudley stiched together and it freakin' shows. ( As someone who writes as a hobby it is especially visible). In the original script Garrett was supposed to suffer from amnesia and I guess the plot was retracing your steps to the very beginning. It would explain his comment about Keepers' ruined library " I feel like I was here before". In other words they half-assed the story. You can't have the cake and eat it. Either you do a sequel or a reboot. Make up your goddamn mind or you will end up with something like thief 2014 "plot".

[@OffTheSpot22]

I pretty much look at this game like a test run for Deus Ex 4 at this point The stealth elements seem great, but the game is lacking in all other categories I think they might have realized that it was going to flop well into development and instead took the opportunity for a dry run of the features going into the next Deus Ex

[@techpriestc5833]

this shat on my childhood more than literally anytjing till now

[@StabStabStabStabby]

I'm glad the melee combat is clunky. You're supposed to use it as an absolute last resort, not go around beating enemies left and right. It forces stealth in a stealth game. I really liked this game, my only annoyance was how difficult it is to navigate the city.

[@optimoosejones9493]

StabStabStabStabby cities are quite difficult to navigate IRL

[@drone124]

youre really good at this. subscribed

[@OMGgamekiller]

Great review! keep up the good work!

[@jgunner280]

I rented this so I can't really say I beat the game and seen the horrible story, but I feel like a lot of these complaints were a bit off to me. I suppose I can see why someone would hate these aspects, but... I dunno I'm left scratching my head and thinking they shouldn't be a big problem. The combat is bad, but then again I recall the same for what I've played of thief 1 and in both cases that was a good thing because combat was not supposed to be the enjoyable aspect. I actually didn't get much of a chance to experience it during the main new game because I played it with forced stealth, however I got into some fights during the challenge mode and it was just as clunky and punishing as it should have been. For animations I can see that being something to love or hate. Animations are supposed to be there as extra immersion and to give it a more modern aesthetic rather than a floaty interaction. However I can see it getting annoying to some people, and even though I liked it myself I got into a glitch where my character stuck to the animation and I had to reload a save.... just terrible. Takedowns are more annoying than the older thief way, however its not that terrible as a whole and we've been doing this a lot lately from Farcry 3 and many other such games. A melee animation was even introduced to Ghosts and was actually an improvement considering all the knife balance complaints of the past. Its just kind of become natural and I don't think Thief is an exception of this just being a decent standard animation. At the end of the day I can see Thief has its share of problems, but I wouldn't say these are the problems I had with it. My biggest complaints lie within the streamlining to make things simple like how lean was attached to the same button as interaction making it a game damaging tie in when you want to swoop in a grab some loot off a crate but get glued to it and spotted instead. However I adore the game as a stealth focused game, I felt it wore the name well compared to the typical reboots and modernized games, and above all it was awesome to see the customization and how it had a meta-game sort of score attack system built to add replay to what was already a solid stealth game. I got to play it without focus and with forced stealth which really intensified the solid stealth mechanics and I enjoyed what little I got to play out of the game from this perspective.

[@Theorendil]

I was considering pre-ordering it, but then I changed my mind. The PC version is now available for about 10 UK pounds, do you think it's worth that much? I was a fan of the original games, although I never actually got around to finishing them. I think that a tenner is a decent price for it.

[@MCHellshit]

I dont get the hate for the animations. I like em, it makes the game more immersive. Plus the horrible combat makes sense since he's not a fighter

[@albedoshader]

The combat still doesn’t need to be horrible. Making Garrett weak is enough, but making the combat outright bad just sucks. The animations are annoying. Stealing stuff is the main point of the game, and the hand animations make the main point of the game a real chore. And the animations don’t add anything to the “immersion”; at least this argument falls flat on its face because the game regularly switches to 3rd person perspective, which takes you out of the immersion all the time. Bop someone over his head... watch a 3rd person takedown animation. There is no immersion in that.

[@masterexploder9668]

Would help if you could steal less but more important items. Taking every possible knife or fork for 10 coins just doesn't fit a Master like Garett.

[@marcfaur]

The animations are just another way of taking control away from the player. For me that's more immersion breaking.

[@greendude7650]

Honestly i don't see any wrongs plus the things you take are petite but look at the year or age this game takes place duhh.

[@meetstoopid]

@@greendude7650 thank you I dont understand the hate sometimes I think certain people just have a rod stuck up there ass

[@SLRModShop]

I absolutely loved this game. (Sorry GmanLives if you see all my comments ^-^ Every single one of them is disagreeing with you but I'm binge watching your channel so you only see a comment when I disagree with you. Don't worry, I'm not the kind of person who dislikes a video because someone doesn't have the same opinion as mine - Really enjoyable content you have here mate)

[@frosch161]

Ahhh..... the game that dares to call itself thief. Press e, watch animation, hold e, watch animation, knock a guard out, watch animation, loot, watch animation. What a total shitshow. Idiots at eidos didnt get what thief was all about. Sadly another game that died in my steam library

[@BucklingSwashes]

A small change that I think could game made stealing much better (and helped solved the long animations issue): limited storage space. Rather than just taking stuff and converting it to gold, you see the value of it and decide if it's worth the added space/weight. Most small things would be practically worthless, but stealing chalices, jewelry, art, etc. would give significantly better value for its size. You should be able to see what you've collected in your inventory and drop things you don't want to make more space for better loot. It would have helped make players actually THINK about what they want to pick up versus what they should leave behind. Increase the value of better loot to balance everything out, have the player sell it at black market merchants in exchange for gold, and then continue with the upgrade system as it is. All this would allow for that immersive aspect of physically grabbing each item while also significantly reducing the time players waste doing so.

[@hannibalburgers477]

I do not agree about inventory space, but you definitely should be able to sell your items to black market, general store or a pawn shop

[@kkarx]

Romano Orzari is a Canadian actor. I recommend you check tv-serie Omerta III where he played the main character. It is the best mafia tv-serie ever made and almost unknown.

[@Gonk]

K I was about to get this game but when u said theres no jump? why would a game not just add the jump option for the hell of it, it feels weird without it.

[@marcfaur]

They tried hard and they failed just as hard.

[@activevertex4475]

I (personally) like this game, and before anyone ask, no, I hadn't played the old thief games before this one, but that's one reason that this game is personally wonderful to me, it introduced me into a world I haven't got to see yet, and for that, just makes it better to me. Plus the challenging difficulty options, where you can change to where you have no hud, if you get spotted once then you have to restart the game, etc. I thought that was a cool edition. And while the story wasn't the best, I still enjoyed it for what it is. I agree with your review for the most part, and you brought up valid points, but I still think this game is amazing, now is it good, no, that's why I agree with the reviews it was given (3.5 /5) but will I recommend it to someone, absolutely.

[@trentf4891]

eidos Montreal make some great stuff, I don't know what went wrong with this one. They have done exceptionally well with the deus ex franchise.

[@jeremytodd00]

Loved this game so much I played it on the Xbox One twice,once on normal then on hard. I then bought it for my PS4 and did the same as before on my Xbox One. Now I'm playing it again on my PS3, I've got a severely broken leg and crushed ankle so I've been bed ridden for a while so I hooked up my PS3 in my bed room and played through some of my older games, then saw Thief for PS3 for sale on Amazon for 10 bucks and I thought why not, let's do this again and I'm loving my time with the game all over again, also the game looks surprisingly good on the PS3

[@CybeargPlays]

Do you think that a new Thief, more like the originals, even can exist anymore, or is such gameplay antiquated to the point that it has to be dolled up in flashy animations or at least streamlined for elegant simplicity, rather than everything being gritty and in the player's control?

[@rb6s132]

this was my first thief game and i loved it. made me want to get the classics which i shall get.

[@nagjautumn4892]

Just finished this for ps3,loved alot about it,candle light, fireplaces, sneaking into houses/apartments etc.but jesus i wish they would of just stuck with a simple thief game, and kept out the supernatural stuff.My first thief game i ever played too. Watching the longplay of the original

[@darkentity1000]

It is ridiculous how they just scatter loot everywhere. In the old games, there was like one or two pieces of loot per room, and it was a lot more valuble. Also they should have just given him an 1/8 of a second "snatch" animation for grabbing loot, rather than that slow grab that he does. That would be not as annoying and would really give you the sense of him being a master thief.

[@IAmTheMagnetMan]

Do they call you a "taffer"?

[@CDRunningG]

At one point, a guard says he had an old person call him a taffer. He didn't know what it meant, so he beat the man to death. They laugh about it in a conversation that you overhear in game. THAT'S THE ONLY TIME TAFFER IS EVER SAID

[@udurSdj]

Not really, at least in dishonored they lovingly rebranded taffer to choffer.

[@ankurvid90]

for best experience, play thief on master custom difficulty with every tweak on except iron man & slowed movement. Explore environment as much as possible, read documents and stay stealthy.

[@wendigo1619]

I liked the animations when picking things up and thumped them on the head

[@Thepnastyone]

Was bummed about this one when I seen its first trailer I just knew what they were thinking and planning.

[@Aerosplinter]

I want a Thief 5 that continues from Thief: Deadly Shadows, where it focuses on an older Garrett(with a beard!) and his new female apprentice who is faster but more vulnerable, while Garrett is slower but stronger and has the ability to zoom in and out. Also can we have Constantine's sword return and have a few Mechanist Haunts appear?

[@Faded.Visuals]

so like dishonored 2 then? Because you kinda described the concepts in dishonored 2.

[@Azoth86730]

That would be my dream game really

[@Challerz]

I'm really enjoying this game so far. Think it's because I played Unreal 2 not to long ago and that killed my dopamine levels so hard that anything I play after that is a masterpiece.

[@TheRyder808]

I'm happy to see someone covering this game in a fairly positive view. However I personally didn't like it specifically because of the sound design. I was introduced to this series only a few months ago and have now played most of the first 2 thief games, deadly shadows and the 2014 game on release when it had come out. Looking back to the old games, the use of footsteps ( or any other prominent noise like moans of an undead, chat between people, things moving, etc) were a huge part of the overall stealth, and that's missing from so much of the new game. Hearing where the two guards are walking in the hallway to what monster could be around a corner, it felt immersive and its puts you in a mindset that you have to focus on the sound in order to survive. I don't want to come off as a purist because this game isn't completely awful on its own, but as a reboot and a return to the series, it would've been great to see the immersive sound design throughout the game play like how the old ones were able to do. Its weird to come back to a game that I mostly enjoyed on release, and after playing the original that came out the year after I was born, only to have loved the experience of playing it much more and to feel as though the triple A game from a decade plus later failed to surpass it on something it should've been able to do much more faithfully. A great review, though, Ive really been enjoying your stuff content recently

[@auritone]

Played both the xbox and ps versions of this travesty, and the sound in those is just broken. People talking inside a house sound like they are next to you, and apparently Garrett hears with his eyes, because if you turn you back to certain people talking their voices drop like they were behind a wall. Also, most of the "thieving" is from empty houses making it play like Pac-Man without the ghosts. That said, this was apparently a dream project for the developers, but quite a few people left the project in frustration with Square. Such a shame.

[@jamescarrino3696]

It's funny how the thumbnail makes it looks like Garret has a super long arm

[@Fulkren]

i agreed with the review. i felt the same way playing this game, it fell short of the potential it could have been. to me the wurst aspect of the game was the fact that there was no Jump. every leap/hurdle/crawl/feat of dexterity was auto scripted/animated. there was no skill involved and left no challenges for the player to overcome. i also hated the fact that the game really didn't reward you for exploring, like leaving clever secrets. where as in the fist 3 games, some secrets where discovered in the lore you could find throughout the game (Books, Letters etc). because of these two facts, the entire game felt like it was on rails for me, it might as well have been a movie since i had the distinct feeling i was never really playing the character. i got through about 3 quarters of the game and called it quit, it just failed at being a fun and engaging experience and more like a chore.

[@sholahverassa8582]

About combat difficulties - well, what martial prowess do you expect from a thief? Being stealthy and avoiding enemies has always been your best bet while playing as thieves in almost any game that got it right.

[@jonathanlivingstonseagull3062]

Picked this up a short while back. Ragequit the game twice. The first time I picked slowed movement and the game over when taking damage traits for custom difficulty (among other things) which ended up making the poison gas section in Chapter 4 basically impossible (or at least so unreasonably difficult I couldn't do it). The second time I started a new game and was skipping cutscenes, which somehow caused a glitch where I didn't get the claw when I was supposed to. Leaving me stuck and unable to advance any further from Chapter 1. gg 10/10 game design.

[@Ohflipsnap]

So wait: Garret has a blackjack which is suppose to be used for silently, and quickly, knocking people out... And he's using it as a barbarian child's club? Meanwhile he's doing long-ass cutscenes to try and take down opponents with his bare hands, and the enemies are also screaming in the process of all this which logically should attract more enemies, defeating the purpose assuming the others can hear. Now this is just silly, even if one wishes to make the argument this game shouldn't be compared to the predecessors.

[@brettguyer3736]

Is this really that bad? It's on sale on Steam right now.

[@skyborne80]

I'm not an art collector or an art thief so maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't cutting a painting from its frame with a scalpel, severely diminish its value? ...

[@DarkW0lverine]

Too much to hope for a review of these guys previous yet really good reboot; Deus Ex Human Revolution?

[@Gggmanlives]

Maybe.

[@youtubeaccount3829]

not a reboot

[@peppermillers8361]

Connor Agnault and a prequel.

[@andrewbrennan7291]

I'm back playing this - and enjoying it.

[@pigtailsboy]

you know given how much animation is taking over actions and combat maybe some of these issues could have been alleviated by having an upgrade very early on to boost the speed at which garret can get business done. Or have an upgrade that allows slow and quiet or fast and sloppy. Because requesting for just doing the action without feedback other than an item disappearing or something changing isn't going to happen. This studio has it hard for this kind of gameplay feedback and they won't be changing unless their fan base dumps on one of their titles for that reason.

[@darthcinema1415]

This doesn't feel like a Thief game. It feels like a mish-mash of Dishonored, and the Arkham games.

[@shitfacejohnson4085]

I forgot about the Focus ability way too fast and only Used it For the Puzzles

[@kyleashby882]

I look at this as dishonored but like a DC else world's stroy u know like set in an alternate universe but like u know and it might just be me but the free running reminds me vaugly of mirrors edge but way dumbed down thoughts ?

[@deepstar4319]

It took me awhile to figure out that Erin was the little girl from the end of thief 3. right? or am i wrong?

[@Gggmanlives]

+Let'sTryIt Not the same person.

[@lazaga8127]

+Let'sTryIt Such a cliff-hanger, and without a resolution.

[@Gggmanlives]

TK4037 Plays Stuff It's not a cliff hanger dude, it's just mirroring Garrett when he was adopted by The Keepers in the first game. All you need to assume is that he takes on the little girl as his protege.

[@BeardedHoplite]

The guard'a helmets look exactly like Rumanian ones

[@deathincluded3706]

a blind woman who knows too much about what lurks in the shadows? a city occupied by an evil force known as the town watch? a man who uses shadows to sneak kill his enemies? hmmm its abit dishonored id say

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

I like the animations and you can see your feet when you look down unlike most games also it looks great and runs great should at least get kudos for that.

[@ThreeDaysOfDan]

The animations should be a option like far cry. I love them but lots of people don't . A option in the menu to toggle them would be good fot both sides.

[@FrMZTsarmiral]

Focus to help him for duh de the fight!

[@lukeshamshoum731]

have you even played the game? every time he steals something and it makes that *clink* I get all giddy

[@NumaanTahir]

Don't kill me but I enjoyed this game

[@NumaanTahir]

PLEASE DONT :(

[@matthewtaylor2365]

I did too

[@jamalbrown6024]

Degenerates like you belong on the cross.

[@watthell]

I enjoyed it also. Never got to play the original ones though, so that could be why I thought it was a decent game.

[@MarkoUntitled]

I did enjoy it too but it had many flaws and if compared with originals (even deadly shadows) it's just a mediocre game with a boring story and characters and some good ideas and good looking enviroments.

[@lovaszaron3138]

Rename the main character, make a shoutout to Garrett and include the bear pits, and then we got a basis for a spinoff.

[@lelxrv]

I'm a huge fan of the original Thief and still wanted to like this new reboot for what it is. Too bad the story and characters are crap, and gameplay itself is dull.

[@a.m.pietroschek1972]

The game has several bad aspects, but also some good. Btw, you wanna knock a guard without killing: Not Q, but R and once the guard goes down Q instead of continuing to strike with R (kill). If you need it for the sissies, not the predators. Chapter one is more fun than it seems, but one has to scout the city and learn to find the hold E spots to move wood. Secret shared: You don't need the WRENCH for the first 4 Basso missions. Just, if you walk wrongly, then you will feel something must be missing. ``Let us not be Taffers about it, and hope for a remake no longer dominated by Geralt erhh Garrett!´´

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

1:20 Let me guess: the girl becomes the Baron

[@Bigdaddymittens]

That chick in the beginning was like "LOL WE ARE THIEFS AMIRITE XDDD" Literally made me drop this shit game. Doesn't help that the performance on all platforms is god-awful.

[@Groaznic]

I prefer the 2 second grab the loot animation rather than the object disappear when I press a key. It's 2015.

[@Groaznic]

***** You turned my life around, I want the unexpected bowel movement mechanic -- market it as "next-gen ultra-realistic hardware-accelerated UBM running exclusively on AMD Mantle" :D

[@fangaming790]

When playing this game I honestly thought to myself at least they did the stuff right better than I can say for Dishonored

[@fangaming790]

Stealth*

[@domcom360]

Really good review but I disagree about the sound design being polished. There are times where I think guards are having conversations right near me but it turns out they were quite a ways away from me. And vice versa. And it's quite inconsistent. And it seems like at times some of the music is used inappropriately. They would play an intense piece that made me think I might've been spotted or something intense was happening but no. Other than that, I agree with the rest.

[@SQGReviewShow]

I remember playing this on my friend's Xbox 360. It was fun for a few hours, but it almost put me to sleep and we decided to play co-op Sonic 2 instead. Never beat Thief Reboot (which is oddly my first exposure to the series)

[@jeremytodd00]

Sonic ??? Lol, how old are you ???

[@thattypicalslimy8548]

Night Lord 40K would you rather play an amazing kids game or a shitty reboot for "mature gamers" which means making every character an egdy piece of shit.

[@Sentay0]

Still doesn't seem that bad. Let's hope the sequel improves everything.

[@martius4773]

Too bad so many time and money was wasted on this game.

[@Sentay0]

I disagree I'd go so far as to say this game is lackluster but bad it most certainly is not.

[@martius4773]

I just think its problem of most AAA+ games. I suppose soon we will hear Square complaining about sales, just like they did with Tomb Rider.

[@SuperHipsterGamer]

***** Hardly the game is released in a dry next-gen console market. Xbone and PS4 owners are ripping it down the shelves because they need to justify their early buy! :P

[@martius4773]

Snobby Gamer Ok? What that have to do with what I have said?

[@detectivelizard9532]

Played the demo a couple of days ago, it was pretty cool for someone who never played the originals and I might pick it up later in the year. Though I would like to try out the originals as well at somepoint.

[@TheDennys21]

So did you buy it?

[@TemplarHedgehog]

I'm not a fan of first-person animations that lock the player into actions i.e. climbing and picking up objects, attacking enemies etc. In third-person games it's almost a necessary evil, but in first-person games it's really the opposite. I don't need to see my character's hands climbing a ladder - just have the camera quickly going up the ladder and let my brain fill in the blanks. Not counting cutscenes and takedowns, Dishonored is quite a good, recent example of first-person animations done right in my opinion.

[@apoletestry3766]

One other thing is that, its very dark, i could hardly see the screen.

[@-watchwatchwatchtv-9708]

I loved this game, from beginning to end

[@FanTaz1986]

old game but not so bad, i remember it gave me 2x fps boost using mantle, from 50 in to 100+ fps

[@Zelousmarineinspace]

Teeftanic. This is not a Thief game.

[@muzboz]

Totally agree with the "too much loot" problem. A real chore. I only played a few hours. I felt there was no real choice about how to move through the level. I also don't like ultra violence, and it was all about that rough kill. The original games had more humor in them. They needed Dan Thron & Terri Brosius, and the rest of the story gang, to come up with some awesome stuff. It'll be interesting to see what Embracer Group do with the Thief IP.

[@vincelang3779]

In earlier games I had to wait for the targets to wobble, whimper and sloooooooooowly fall to the ground : i.e. they too have to run through a full animation before they can be picked up and stashed out of sight. I agree about the quantity vs quality of loot, however, and the story is bollocks.

[@Gggmanlives]

You’re not locked into place for that animation in the old games. Surely you can see the difference...

[@vincelang3779]

@@Gggmanlives Fair enough. Amusingly, I'm scourging myself through RETURN TO THE CATHEDRAL today (I get these masochistic urges from time to time - don't ask!) and boy is that less entertaining than chewing a ball of tin foil soaked in yak puke . . .

[@deanhendriks7894]

The stealing animation thing isnt that bad, i really like having an animations instead of like skyrim where items just teleport away

[@cobrapanic]

Remember when stylized animations and take-downs were a novelty?

[@MrArakhon]

can u name few of the first games

[@cobrapanic]

Nazrul Ongkon It's been so long, uhhhhh God of War, RE4, the Arkham games?

[@dillonmcdyver3484]

The thing I don't see and the reviews of this game seem to focus on the technical move aspect (like the stealth aspect). Here is what actually matters; How stupid is the AI? In this game, the AI seems spotty. Part of how 'master' thief you are the more smart the AI should be. Also where are the supernatural aspects: zombies, and the other supernatural elements is what made Thief (the originals) so cool. So if this game doesn't have them it really does suffer. So far I have not seen anything like that. What the main villain is something weird. I mean the magical aspect to the game, is vital, and so if it doesn't appear to be there. That is a huge massive 'no good' for me.

[@peppermillers8361]

well...the second game didn't had magic...but it was as great as the first one...

[@RevanStarrrR]

+Dillon McDyver Actually the reason why most people ive heard prefer 2 and TDS over 1 is that undead and monsters are much more limited. You are literally the first person ive heard of who liked them.

[@TheGreenEquinox]

For someone who is more interested in the mechanics and gameplay rather than the story I think I might enjoy this. I´ll give it a go when it´s at least 50% off.

[@phoenixzappa7366]

Should I play this or the first thief game?

[@kissaninja9700]

play the first 2 dont touch this. thief 3 is in the middle. maybe not

[@moody_blue682]

Seriously, the first game, Thief: The Dark Project, is far better and one of the most innovative video games ever made IMO. Just be sure to install the latest TFix mod (currently version 127) after the base game. It fixes all the bugs and allows up to 4K widescreen resolution. If you want it to look better graphically, install the HD 1.2 mod as well.

[@PCuser0137]

This game runs better on AMD cards since the update that included the Mantle API