Things About Glee That Fill Me With Rage

[@agustinajimenez1195]

No one hates the show more than gleeks lol

[@expensivepink7]

so true lmao

[@John-oh8nq]

True

[@FloreMar-yp3iz]

Except Kevin and Jenna

[@jackkirwan8146]

@@FloreMar-yp3iz they don't remember enough storylines to even hate it 😂

[@FloreMar-yp3iz]

@@jackkirwan8146 Good Point, but they hate it anyway xd

[@AaliyahRaffell]

I can’t stand the fact that in the later seasons they made Sam stupid just so he would seem more compatible with Brittany; despite the fact that he wasn’t like that when he was first introduced.

[@marcelltoth3750]

And in his first episode, he said he was dyslexic if I remember correctly. Way to make people believe having a difficulty means you're just not intelligent.

[@loveandhate52]

​@@marcelltoth3750 and then they did the same thing with Ryder!

[@amyshortland]

i also hated how they made every body with dyslexia really dumb like ????

[@marcelltoth3750]

@@loveandhate52 I don't really remember the later seasons, I think they sucked.

[@loveandhate52]

@@marcelltoth3750 oh don't worry you're not missing out. i still haven't seen the last season

[@niamhrtditchfield2348]

Kitty never got held accountable for what she did

[@briizy300]

Nobody did honestly

[@elanahochbaum9129]

@@briizy300 idk I think Finn did in a way

[@eviekenyon574]

Then when Santana called her out on it no one cared

[@danisnotonchairs3561]

Definitely. She admitted to it to Marley in the school shooting episode and straight away they ignored it. I really didn’t like Kitty because of it. Like, Marley gets suspended for not wearing a bikini and she gets free after giving another student an eating disorder

[@liacastrobugliossi8792]

Sue never did

[@jsnow7919]

Season 4 is so guilty of the of the abandoned storyline: Burt's cancer Marley's eating disorder Ryder's dyslexia The repercussions from the trauma of a school shooting Adam's Apples

[@SweenyTodd98]

also the catfishing storyline

[@laoisemorgan3658]

also ryder making a big dramatic thing at the end of the season that he was leaving... then he just didn’t and there was no explanation about why

[@janaeisobsessed]

yeah i didn’t like how they made them recovering from the shooting kinda like a joke when they made shooting scene so intense and serious

[@amyshortland]

Sugar and Joe just kept disappearing

[@jsnow7919]

@@amyshortland I just guessed they stop turning up to Glee club because no one talked to them in there haha

[@njuta]

It's insane that Quinn lived with Mercedes but they never showed their friendship after that... I don't think they showed very many good friendships. It was always about the romantic relationships.

[@jessicotte1256]

Exactly! I thought when quinn brought mercedes in the hospital room with her there would be a friendship between them.

[@chandrawagner4061]

Yesss! They completely threw that away and I was insulted

[@sofias.4447]

i agree but what about rachel and kurts friendship?

[@victoriavasquez4911]

I get what you mean and I agree but I think Blaine and Sam were pretty solid good friendship.

[@njuta]

@@victoriavasquez4911 probably the best depiction of friendship on the show

[@jaelk]

Things that annoyed me: How they ruined Tina's character completely, how biphobic everyone was, how they repeatedly called Mercedes lazy when the type of belting that she did on a regular basis takes an incredible amount of skill

[@VirginiaRancier]

yeah, Tina was a big disappointment... at the end, they just made her a mini Rachel >>

[@donsolo7860]

Mercedes was there to park and bark, her words LoL. She was immensely talented but didn’t really ever try as hard as she made it seem.

[@insertsomethingcreativeher7949]

I agree with everything but how , were they biphobic

[@insertsomethingcreativeher7949]

Abby Kelly Well okay that's just Kurt not everyone

[@insertsomethingcreativeher7949]

Lisa Olivia But u can be bi-curious as I am still trying to figure out who I am. U can think you're bi and you were gay the whole time you can be lesbian and date boys cuz u were trying to hide from the homophobics in your school

[@imsokeiko]

It was like a running joke that Tina's songs always got cut off, they dumbed Sam down, and they made Becky so mean it was cringey.

[@Anna-B]

When we first met Becky, she was so sweet! Also, Brittney was showing Becky there bake sale (think that’s even when we meet Becky) but that’s never pursued! Becky and Brittney are friends!

[@not_quite_clarinet]

*confused True Colors noises*

[@user-ul3hu5wp9w]

ikr! I used to love Becky, they ruined her character.

[@youchoosemyadventure]

I loved Becky being the "bully". No one complains about the "normal" white blonde being the bully. I loved that they made this girl into the bully and people were frightened by her. They put her in a different light of what the typical popular bully was. I've known plenty of girls that were nice and turned into pieces of crap. So why can't a girl with downsyndrom become popular and let it go to her head. The thing is everyone wants no stereotypes till we change up the stereotype then it's so awful. I bet you the girl that played Becky was happy to not play a sympothetic role, because that's how the rest of the world looks at her.

[@th3m00nstone]

@@youchoosemyadventure i think that it is fine that they made her be mean, but i feel like her lines were sort of unrealistic and almost try-hard in a way, like it was cringy on purpose

[@ErikDijk]

I don’t get why Rachel got into NYADA after ruining her audition and kurt didn’t even though his NYADA audition was great

[@OReily08080]

She quits and then gets accepted again

[@victoriapitetta3831]

@@OReily08080 I hate the fact the the both got into NYADA because of "second chances" from Carmen. I think at least one should got in like a normal person

[@OReily08080]

Victoria Pitetta exactly

[@biancalauren4981]

I just don’t get how they afford that GIANT Flatbush apt

[@sparklingdaisy3169]

@@biancalauren4981 Rachel's parents paid for it.

[@catduff8092]

It annoys me that they can’t do a break up without someone cheating. Like people can just grow up apart and not be suited for one another anymore?

[@artist2527]

Well Santana broke up with Brittany in season 4 cause they didn't want to long distance relationship along with Mike and Tina

[@evie6362]

Actually, Brittana had a breakup without cheating! That's the only couple I can think of!

[@unouni2548]

Tbh, that's a Hollywood problem in general... I don't really remember a movie or series where people just brake up because they grow apart. Unless it's a show where the point is that they are exes.

[@leilanyx]

@@evie6362 technically brittany cheated on artie w santana, and santana probably cheated on sam etc. with brittany when they were all together. they literally make a joke about artie and sam being happy that their girlfriends are such good friends lmao.

[@lucasouza889]

its just more difficult to write that way.

[@mathybtn4160]

something that annoyed me: Puck got Quinn drunk to get in her pants and the show never really explored how that was wrong and abusive, instead they tried to play out as if they were "soul mates"...... like, WTF???????????

[@OReily08080]

I disliked that pairing so much

[@user-ul3hu5wp9w]

IKR?? he got her DRUNK.

[@lauras2752]

Elle sameee I’m always loved Sam and Quinn - she was her happiest with him and she became better and helped Sam with his siblings, etc.

[@agenttheater5]

Realising that made the Celibacy Club scene even worse - when they're doing that balloon thing and Puck's paired with Santana and is grinding into her really aggressively saying "yeah, take it" and Santana's saying "Puck stop it!" I mean, I'll admit, she seemed more annoyed than anything but still, she said stop and he didn't. Quinn said "I can't do this" and Puck said "Yes you can, here, have another wine cooler"

[@hannahwilliams5681]

Yep. He raped her

[@albieemery2828]

Unique looked like a Sims Character with the way she was clothed.

[@amelieg246]

That's it!

[@stellajohnson8318]

Randomize Sim

[@royalkate36]

the sims the ea makes

[@skyepapa]

lmao unique is a townie

[@skeleph0ne]

i know right, i’m all for trans representation . but the trans characters in glee were pretty bad.

[@leeneedsfriends6750]

I swear everytime I rewatch Glee I see something I didn't spot last time but don't like. Like when Kurt is just biphobic when Blaine says he might be bi. I wish they had've later had Kurt realise that what he was saying was insensitive and ignorant...

[@jackkirwan8146]

And Santana was suddenly biphobic in season 5 and then it was never mentioned again

[@nyla3387]

I feel like Kurt was only biphobic because he hated the thought of Blaine having the opportunity to be attracted to females as well as males, Kurt just wanted blaine for himself xD

[@nerdp8469]

THIS!!

[@cristianadiiorio1963]

In that scene is pretty obvious Kurt is not biphobic, but just jealous bacause oh my God Rachel always got what she wants, but he immediately regret it, and I remember he asked Blaine sorry, did I remember wrong? Anyways I think there are many biphobic content in TV and they aren't seen as wrong... (sorry my bad english, it's not my first language)

[@amelieg246]

@@cristianadiiorio1963 I didn't think it was clear personally. As someone who is bi I didn't generally view Kurt as biphobic, but what he said in that scene just emulated exactly what my parents say and why I can't tell them 🤷‍♀️ very insensitive writing because they didn't resolve the issue of his words.

[@niamhrtditchfield2348]

Glee covered every issue. Just covered them all badly

[@albieemery2828]

Mm not all.

[@niamhrtditchfield2348]

@@albieemery2828 you dont agree?

[@albieemery2828]

I think certain issues like Mercedes waiting for marriage and Shannon being trans (although I don’t agree with that change) where actually dealt with well

[@Bowiebonolennon1982]

It didn't jive with the whole "I'm just a girl whose never been kissed" thing, did it?

[@niamhrtditchfield2348]

@@albieemery2828 oh yh fair enough

[@jspxh]

hate how rory's whole personality was being an extreme irish stereotype... damien hun i am *SO* sorry

[@paigeym6596]

If only they made him more like Niall Horan...

[@email471]

Paigey M NEIL

[@amymarieorla]

Twas a bit offensive

[@email471]

Amy Marie Orla yes I know

[@23louuu]

And his voice was absolute perfection

[@cristianadiiorio1963]

Things glee forgots: Blaine's parents

[@LauraLovegood]

And his age! He was meant to je older then Kurt.... ends up going to McK and suddenly Kurt graduates before him like whaaaaaaa?!

[@zoelemons7482]

So true

[@villedart970]

Honestly, RIB forgot like...Blaine's everything. They were like "soo, Blaine was bashed, but he's fine. He also has depression, but look at this angsty song. Oh I know, let's have his mother present herself to Carole for the first time when he was engaged to Kurt! No one will notice!"

[@easterslice]

@@LauraLovegood Changing Blaine's age annoyed me so much, because he was presented as someone Kurt could look to for guidance in Season 2, but in Season 3, he feels like a completely different character. I understand why they did that. They needed to keep a few characters in high school for an extra year. But it still bugged me.

[@cristianadiiorio1963]

@@villedart970 That scene, oh my God that scene! I was like: Is she just said she is Blaine's mom? Blaine has a mom? Why is she at Santana and Brittany wedding? Wait, is she just present herself to Carol? And that's the story of how Glee makes me freaking out with 5 seconds of nonsense.

[@kathrinemicheelsen3970]

Something that kind of annoyed me was NYADA. Rachel and Kurt didn't even know about the school before Emma mentioned it: they wanted to audition at Julliard but didn't know they don't have a musical theater program. Like?? Aren't they extreme theater nerds? How did they not know that. And then NYADA suddenly became this grand thing yet they never knew it existed. Bonus unpopular opinion: Kurt should've chosen a school for fashion and design. Then his arc in season 3 and 4 could be him struggling with choosing between music and fashion and then coming up with something that mixed the two or something like that. Fashion was such an important part of his character because it expressed perfectly who he was and made him stand out. And why even give him a job at vogue when it didn't lead to anything?

[@0104brit]

Great point! Kurt should've gone into fashion. The whole NYADA thing -- gave us nothing

[@Anna-B]

And whenever we saw him at home in the first season, he was sewing!

[@amyshortland]

he got into vogue like that’s a once in a lifetime thing and then he just stopped going there ?????

[@ericanaytorrr]

the fact that he absolutely killed his nyada audition and should have gotten in the first time around aside, kurt was THRIVING at vogue and he absolutely should have stayed there instead of quitting for nyada.

[@easterslice]

I think that came about because the writers on the show didn't realize that Juilliard doesn't have a musical theater program. I remember that fans made a fuss about that mistake when it happened.

[@AmberBasti]

Rachel giving up Broadway to be on television is honestly one of the most stupid things evah! But also that time when Rachel just smacked Santana hard in the face and Santana didn't slap back, I mean it's Santana! The girl who thought she could beat Lauren Zizes who was on the wrestling team, excuse me?!

[@AmberBasti]

@@lilymacdonald5225 Yeah how did Lea read the script and was like: sure that makes sense!

[@dwell7315]

@@AmberBasti I think they mean, Rachel and Kurt reading the script for That's So Rachel. Like they watch the episode later like "wow this is bad" but they read the script before, they should have seen how bad it was and said nevermind. They're both theater kids, they know what a good script looks like

[@AmberBasti]

@@dwell7315 True but I don't understand how Lea and Chris and anybody else read the script for Glee and agreed with it. It's so out of character...

[@dwell7315]

@@AmberBasti ohhhhhh I see, I see. No idea tbh, maybe by that point they didn't really care anymore

[@melissas6208]

I think that Santana expected Rachel to be upset & they got closer at that stage. She probably just gave her a pass that one time because she started liking Rachel but when Rachel threatened to slap Santanas the next time she said that she'd slap her so hard that she won't be able to wake up until she's old enough to be funny lady😄

[@woolyvaro7814]

I'm still mad that they were like: "Cassandra July might be an alcoholic...well, sucks for her, time for Kurt and Blaine to enganged" Also, I hate how they made Coach beiste trans, just for the sake of it. Trans representation is great, but it was just very opposite to what they stood for in the show. There was a whole story line with beiste about still being feminine, even though not presenting as stereotypically feminine, and making him trans, completely nullified that argument. "More "Masculine" presenting women are still women! JK, was a man after all."

[@mirandawatson99]

DEFINITELY THE TRANS THING. When they announced it in the show I rolled my eyes super hard. It would've made so much sense if they hadn't gone on and on on previous seasons about how much beiste likes makeup and being seen as feminine and how insecure she is about it. Now he's trans?? Bullshit, continuity please.

[@spiderclops]

Exactly I’m Trans and I still did not like the whole Beast thing. Unique being trans was amazing, I loved her story line and I love her! That is how you do it! But then glee was like- “oh wait we don’t have a trans male” so they just forced beasts into being a trans male. And like- this just annoys me aaah! The was nothing with him and dysphoria. But there was with unique. IT JUST ANNOYED ME- and this is coming from someone who is trans

[@AG_KEMPER]

As a teenager, I was relatively "masculine-presenting" due to my broad shoulders, medium build, and low vocal register; heck, I even went on to play a full-contact co-ed sport at the collegiate level! I struggled to find ways to express this side of myself whilst still wanting to express my feminine side, especially in the cult of femininity (purity culture and the Regnum Christi cult) I was part of as a pre-teen and teenager. It was so empowering to see a more masculine-presenting woman who loved full-contact sports and wanted to explore her more feminine side on a TV show I loved. I was being surrounded by a very monolithic idea of what womanhood was and felt like an outsider. As a teenager, I even told my parents that I wished I had been born a boy so that I'd fit in with my peer group better (I've never had any other feelings of body/gender dysphoria, it was mainly for shock value). When Beist came out as trans - totally out of left field IMHO - that was shattered for me and for so many young women in the same boat. It seemed to tell us that, hey, you young women who don't always feel so in touch with your feminine side due to your more masculine-coded interests are actually just closeted trans men. That otherwise very promising arc that spoke to so many young women was thrown away for "representation" for representation's sake. Luckily, my undergrad institution had a great, accepting Catholic group where I found other young women who expressed their femininity in diverse ways and loved it. I learned that there is no "right" way to be a woman, that we can express our femininity (and masculinity) in a variety of beautiful ways, and that God loves us no matter what.

[@mirandawatson99]

@@spiderclops YES!! And even with Unique, me being a cis person and watching it quite young, was sometimes perceived as a drag queen? Like they never fully said she was a girl only that she "liked to dress as one" or at least that's what I remember and I was a bit confused at first

[@mirandawatson99]

@@AG_KEMPER So glad you feel comfortable now!!! It really is a shame because I, too, loved beiste's arc up until that point

[@clt030103]

We all ignoring that Sam literally states he's dyslexic and this magically goes away after just one episode!!

[@amelieg246]

Well they made him dumb, which is apparently the same thing 🤦‍♀️

[@amymarieorla]

Wait when? I thought that was ryder lmao

[@clt030103]

@@amymarieorla In the episode he's introduced, Sam explicitly says that he is left-handed and has dyslexia, but he's doing ok with school work. This storyline is scrapped entirely, in favour of him being homeless, and the writers gave the underdeveloped story to Ryder in season 4. I absolutely love Glee but, the representation of teens with learning disabilities is severely lacking in the show!

[@amymarieorla]

@@clt030103 oh! I completely forgot about that!

[@alexatoy401]

@Charlotte Taylor and a few episodes later ryder can read really well after only a few help sessions with a specialist

[@maggiemore1814]

No one talks about this but the way everyone treated Kurt in the lord chessus episode annoyed the ever loving crap outta me. He told everyone that he didn’t believe in god and they start freaking yelling at him for it. I was like “yo, this boy’s dad is in the hospital and you’re gonna bully him because he is doing what is totally in his right?” He even said he appreciated their prayers and they still treated him with disrespect. Idk I just though it was kinda weird that they tried to make Kurt look like this awful person when he was just being completely honest about his beliefs, which you’re totally in you’re right to do in America.

[@OnchiBon]

The obsession with the church in Glee is generally really weird. I mean maybe in 2008 teenagers really were super religious but nowadays it's super weird to see religion have such an important part in a show

[@maggiemore1814]

Maxi Nita Yeah and like nowadays when someone expresses their religious beliefs people don’t get so mad and I think that’s why I was shocked when I watched it.

[@CameronMetrejean]

Haven’t seen the episode in a while but when I first viewed it I thought everyone was mainly more concerned but ultimately very there for him. I thought it was mostly a nice balance between the two sides but honestly if I had to choose I would say that I thought Kurt was being a little immediately defensive, which has shown to be a character trait of his.

[@shyloandromeda4470]

@@OnchiBon no in 2008 I can tell you right now teenagers were not like that. Idk what was going on there

[@shyloandromeda4470]

@@CameronMetrejean they were there and he was defensive but they also kept pushing after the fact. To the point that quin Rachel and Mercedes showed up without his permission at the hospital to pray when he'd already asked them not too. Their intentions were good but it was wrong. He was going through a lot he was facing being orphaned and probably reliving his mother's death all over again they shouldn't have so blatantly disrespected his boundaries. I appreciate prayers when I'm going through a rough time but if someone keeps pushing the issue like that when I'm vulnerable it upsets me more. Unrelated Also the fact that Finn knew after everyone else annoyed too I felt Finn should have been pulled of class as well. This was finn's new father figure it was gonna hurt him too. They didn't show Carol the entire episode I don't think and I felt Finn was the only one who the right to be as pushy about god as everyone else was about it but he was the only one who actually stepped back and let kurt be. He seemed like the glee character that cared least which I didn't like

[@pb.honey.sandwich]

what really annoyed me was that the glee club won against the troubletones with that pathetic MJ number. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Michael Jackson, but I just don’t think it was that strong. The troubletones totally wiped the floor with their mashup, and you can’t change my mind.

[@lily-jh4td]

ABSOLUTELY!! i also preferred the buenos aires performance to any of their MJ songs lol. so new directions shoulda come last imo

[@pb.honey.sandwich]

lily Yes! Glad someone gets it lol

[@axisboise]

My god yes! I'm a Survivor and I will Survive mashup was AMAZING

[@elianapet8227]

Yes it might have been one of the best glee performances!!!

[@msjannayvonne]

Agreed!!!

[@amelieg246]

What annoyed me most about Glee was just Rachel in general. Her voice is great, but the chest breathing and really dramatic, self-indulgent facial expressions are just 👎 it's got to point where I'm skipping all her solos, also the fact that she got almost all the solos when Amber and Naya had, in my opinion, better voices. So yeah, Rachel, and sometimes Kurt, he particularly irked me when he said biphobic stuff when Blaine was confused.

[@amelieg246]

Ooh ooh also in the grilled cheesus episode where everyone was shoving their religions down Kurt's throat. It's sweet they wanted to pray for his dad, but when he asked them not to, they went to Burt's bedside anyway...and then Kurt was really rude about their beliefs as well. I think it was intended to represent unity, but I think it ended up showing religion and atheism in a bad light. Only plus point is they didn't stoop low enough to have Finn pray for Burt to a sandwich.

[@sludgystarfish]

I also skip all of Rachel's singing.

[@morganahah5301]

Ok I generally agree, especially since Santana Kurt and Mercedes are in my top 5 favs, but I do agree Kurt was kinda biphobic, but I feel like he didn’t even realize it and since Blaine was the only other gay kid he was just trying to be with him, and I also don’t think ppl are realizing how biphobic everyone else was too! It generally annoys me!!

[@etritten4705]

I’m still very very frustrated ab the reaction all the boys had to Ryder’s confession ab his childhood babysitter and how they didn’t have them apologize???? they just had Kitty be like “i understand, a similar thing happened to me” and then everything was just good?? i feel like Ryder could’ve been such a good character if they had actually dealt with his issues rather then just saying “guess what! he also has this problem!” and then moving on

[@imshinycaptain]

Yeah that was a BIG DEAL considering how boys and men are treated if they've been sexually assaulted -- "Oh yeah, you got some from an ~*OLDER LADY*~ way to go!!" and this was not much better. Good job on dropping the ball, Glee.

[@RainbowPawPrint]

Yeah that was really badly handled. The worst part wasn’t even that the boys said these things to Ryder, since that does happen in real life, but the worst part was that they weren’t properly told off and that they never learned and apologized. And because of that, the audience didn’t learn either. The same thing goes for Kurt’s biphobic statement that ”bisexual is just what gay guys in high school say when they want to hold hands with girls and feel normal for a change”. Many people do have that misconception, so it wasn’t necessarily wrong to have a character say that on the show, but what made it bad is that Kurt never learned from this, and, again, the audience didn’t learn either.

[@agenttheater5]

I mean, they did basically highlight how little people are taught about sexual assault (that it can happen to both boys and girls and that both older men and older women can be the abusers) but I agree, they didn't take it as far as they could have. I still find it hard to forgive Artie and Sam for what they said, I wanted to see the girls confront them about what they'd said, I wanted to see them realise how horrible they'd been and to feel miserable and guilty for it for one episode at least.

[@blancaherreroespana5035]

And on top of that, then Kitty dated Artie. I'm still mad about it.

[@kalebmartin1845]

another point on the disabilities thing. It always really annoyed me that they had Sugar claim she had Aspergers and then just use it as an excuse to be a dick. As if all people with Aspergers do that. that's a big ol' yikes

[@AmyLovatt1]

so true!

[@Potatoesop]

I’m pretty sure she said it was self diagnosed. Doesn’t excuse the crappy way that they dealt with it in the show (and the fact I don’t remember it being mentioned again). While people with disabilities can be assholes, because they’re people to, doesn’t mean that it can be written off as an excuse for a character to be mean.

[@eviekenyon574]

I think it was meant to be a joke because she said she was ‘self-diagnosed’ but they could’ve had a character with actual aspergers and handled it properly

[@jaymeselijah]

I think the joke was that she was self diagnosed

[@HyperfixationStation]

@@jaymeselijah which is a harmful joke that people who are self-diagnosed do it on a whim or as an excuse to be a jerk, instead of because of how hard it can be to get a diagnosis and how expensive

[@joxclever]

It always bugged me when someone would say - usually at the end of the last song of the episode - "looks like we found our opening number for Sectionals!" or whatever. Then it would just be forgotten about, and they'd say it about 6 other songs before the Sectionals episode,where they'd perform.something they thought of 10 minutes before curtain.

[@AmyLovatt1]

omg you're so right!!

[@ThatWeirdo04]

That was for a practical reason. They didn't want to bore the audience by repeating songs.

[@ChelseaLomez]

Lindsey Corliss *don’t stop believing enters the chat*

[@netgeekdoggirl]

Adding onto the big girl outfits didn't they have Mercedes wear pAnts in her cheerleader outfit. That was so dumb

[@laurenjordan9583]

She didn't want to wear the skirt

[@viljapeltokorpi8159]

I mean as a big girl myself I would be much more comfortable with the pants, bc the skirts are TINY

[@federicapiottoli6922]

Well you know, at least they adressed the issue in the episode

[@youchoosemyadventure]

She also wasn't really a flip in the air cheerio, but just a random singing girl cheerleader, Britney and Santana have the same pants in some later episodes. The short skirts are for movement, but I get what you are saying.

[@mistybenjamin9009]

I just watched that episode and Mercedes told Sue she didn't think it was fair to the other girls if she showed so much skin. She wasn't uncomfortable, she was so comfortable that she oozing confidence. She was trying to be fair... lol

[@albieemery2828]

Glee fans dislike glee more than Glee haters dislike glee Amy your sense of humour is so precious. You are my fav KZbinr.

[@AmyLovatt1]

oh thank you Albie!! :D

[@OReily08080]

Albie Emery I mean it’s pretty true, Glee fans would probably just watch up til season 3 and forget about the rest

[@albieemery2828]

Elle I actually like the later seasons 😳😳

[@OReily08080]

Albie Emery it’s fine I guess, i just like to forget it

[@Showtunediva]

I totally love her sense of humor too! Also her kitty cat is so cute!

[@summerstargrrrl]

Emma should've been with Carl, he's so much better for her. Schue just ruins everything

[@herculesmulligan4303]

Agreed

[@yasmin4494]

YES!!

[@lelandsolesby7108]

The treatment of unique is the thing that irritates me the most in glee. Like they treat her like a drag queen, not a trans woman and no one respects her pronouns or identity, even mr shue the advocate for all minorities (or at least that’s what he believes) like literally sue offers to give unique her own bathroom but shue refuses because he wants his students to twerk (I know everyone talks about this). also in season six they tried to fix it by showing better representation of a trans character with beiste (I think that’s how you spell it). Like I’m all for trans representation, but there are so many times throughout the show where beiste makes it clear that they’re a girl (I’m using they to be gender neutral) like I remember one specific time when they literally say “I’m such a girl”. The point of beiste’s character was that not all women have to be super feminine. I would have rather introduced a new character (like maybe one of the newbies) rather than mess up what is otherwise a pretty good character (although on a side note beiste was always given the worst storylines) anyway thanks for listening to my ted talk

[@laurasmithson3088]

Exactly! It seemed in the first 2 episodes that Alex won from the glee project that the role was written to he abut drag but when she became a series regular it shifted to be trans.

[@Anna-B]

I always disliked the bieste season 6 storyline too! You explained it perfectly

[@mollypocrass4562]

I was always annoyed by Beiste's season 6 storyline for the exact reason you mention.

[@ericanaytorrr]

A G R E E D . Beiste being trans was so out of nowhere and kind of distasteful tossing it in in the final handful of episodes. And the way Sue made sure Beiste was always comfortable, respected and addressed by the proper pronouns always left me like ?????? bc of the way she treated Unique. Sure people learn and change, but in that case Unique deserved a huge apology.

[@clarisselu2935]

and they literally did unique so dirty by referring to her as a he/she or him/her at times and essentially turning her into a drag queen i'm disgusted

[@jackkirwan8146]

I agree with almost all of these (especially Rachel being on Broadway and then TV) but the thing that annoyed me the most was the way they handled Santana's coming out. They made it so much about Finn! Also (and this annoys me more than the outing) he never apologized or admitted that what he did was wrong *and* while outing her he literally called her a coward because she hadn't come out already. Because being a straight guy, he would be an expert on coming out. Another thing was that in that episode there's a deleted scene where Santana actually gets to come out to the Cheerios. But no, instead of that we get (guess what) *more* Finn. This time he's singing 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun'. And Santana takes this as an apology?? Anyway, sorry for the rant, this just REALLY annoys me, especially because I was waiting for Santana to come out and I couldn't wait to see how they would do it. Thank you for coming to my ted talk 👋

[@neantmai7396]

The fact that Finn, a straight boy, sang "Girls just wanna have fun" made the whole thing even worst. I feel like the song choice wasn't appropriate at all and made Santana's sexuality seem like a phase or something not serious

[@jackkirwan8146]

@@neantmai7396 omg that too. There is just so many things wrong with that episode.

[@RainbowPawPrint]

I completely agree with that. I hate how Finn acted and how he kept trying to justify his actions. During a recent rewatch I also realized that there is a pattern to Finn’s behavior here: he also ”outed” Quinn’s pregnancy to her parents in season one, despite her specifically asking him to wait until she was ready. That had pretty disastrous results since Quinn was kicked out of her house. So in other words, Finn had a history of believing he knew what was best for others and forcing them to reveal secrets that they weren’t ready to reveal or to deal with. I really wish that Finn had been held accountable for this. During Santana’s coming-out episode I was frankly also a bit disappointed that Kurt and Blaine took part in Finn’s ridiculous ”lady music” plan. They should have been more understanding of what Santana was going through. Of course their intentions were good, but Santana was not ready yet to deal with this so publicly. So even though they were offering support, they should have spoken to her more privately. And I agree that ”Girls just wanna have fun” was not the best song choice since it kind of minimized Santana’s situation. ”I kissed a girl” wasn’t really the best song choice for Santana to sing either. The performance was great, but the song is not about a lesbian coming ut but rather about a straight girl experimenting. With lyrics like ”it’s innocent”, ”it doesn’t mean I’m in love tonight” and ”I hope my boyfriend don’t mind it”, it also minimizes the situation and implies that Santana is merely experimenting, which of course is the opposite of what they were going for. That song might have worked better earlier while Santana was still questioning her identity, or about Quinn, who did indeed experiment with Santana in season four.

[@jackkirwan8146]

@@RainbowPawPrint and while outing Quinn's pregnancy he literally sang "You're Having My Baby" I almost died of second hand embarrassment 😭

[@RainbowPawPrint]

Abby Kirwan Yeah that was really terrible. Finn made that situation a lot worse for Quinn than it had to be. Her parents had to find out sooner or later, but Quinn should have been allowed to handle it herself, like she wanted to.

[@eilidhbr9064]

I never liked Ryder, but it really annoyed me when Sam and Artie just dismissed and made fun of his story about being molested.

[@everyonesfavoritesidechara3816]

What episode was that in? I can’t find it

[@carlii1663]

Readinghood_13 Vlogs lights out! s4 ep 20

[@axisboise]

Yes! That bugged the fuck out of me. And Sam and Artie nerver recieved repurcussions for such behavior

[@hannahwilliams5681]

@@everyonesfavoritesidechara3816 yea that was disgusting

[@healthyholemealbread]

Hell to No by Mercedes was *EVERYTHING*

[@AmyLovatt1]

ok you're not wrong there!!

[@VorpalSpider69]

Facts

[@sharleenann6009]

And Colorblind!

[@VorpalSpider69]

Sharleen Ann oh true

[@Potatoesop]

I actually liked ‘Get it Right’....

[@joenzo4808]

The episode that bothered me the most is the one where Blaine talks about how he thinks he might be bi and then Kurt reacts really biphobic (Bi people are just gay people who don't want to admit it etc.), mostly because at the end of the episode Blaine realizes he is in fact gay, which by itself is not wrong at all, but then because Kurt never apologizes for the things he said it almost seems like the show wants to say that what he said was right. As a bi gleek, it was just really upsetting to me.

[@cristianadiiorio1963]

That scene was so out of character, like he was jealous because Rachel always gets what she wants (can't bleme him for that) and than he starts saying things like that like... Kurt? Seriously in glee the character have not psychology and there are plenty of occasions: - Kurt biphobic comment - Santana, Mercedes and Tina laughing about violence on woman - Blaine cheating - Artie and Sam reaction to Ryder confession - Rachel leave Broadway for a TV show And that are just some of it ( sorry my bad english, I'm not a native speaker)

[@axisboise]

As a bi gleek, I agree

[@niamhrtditchfield2348]

Oh I got one, brittany says she has a brother, but he is never mentioned again, he wasnt even at the wedding

[@artist2527]

Ikr!!?!?!

[@TeresaBenson]

She also says she has a sister who we never see.

[@ericanaytorrr]

But like, why was majority of the glee club only children? The only people with siblings were Quinn, Puck, Sam, Blaine, and (allegedly) Brittany. That leaves 7 of them to be only children. I’m pretty sure there were only like 5 people in my entire grade in high school that were only children.

[@niamhrtditchfield2348]

@@ericanaytorrr yh that's kinda weird I've never thought about that

[@alexatoy401]

@ericaidk i think i saw in some interview somewhere that tina has an older sister but i could be wrong

[@kbuttons19]

Not only is Rachel supposed to be vegan but she wouldn’t eat pepperoni anyway because she’s Jewish!

[@Maddie-nx3hb]

I’m Jewish and not everybody keeps kosher (my family doesn’t) so her being Jewish wouldn’t have much to do with it unless her family did but I forget if they mentioned her family kept kosher? But they definitely mentioned her being vegan

[@SjofnBM1989]

You can get beef pepperoni 🤷‍♀️ Also as a non kosher jew....lots of us eat pork, and shellfish and meat and dairy at the same time.

[@gremlyn1658]

They made her cook duck for Thanksgiving, like? Even though it was for Brody, I don't think a vegan would do that.

[@evecampbell7945]

Best part about watching glee is being able to rant about it later

[@ckilbarger01]

In The Quarterback, when Rachel talks about how she always thought that one day she'd come back and Finn would be teaching at McKinley and all that was Ryan Murphy's way of sharing what he wanted the ending to be. Yes! Rachel would have known the Cats thing and certainly wouldn't have given up Funny Girl for TV show. Yes! So many random continuity issues! Like Santana failing Spanish in the first couple episodes but is legit bilingual. I'm a high school teacher. I know she would have been helping her Cheerio friends cheat their way through Spanish. Also, as a high school teacher, in Ohio no less, I watch now and just have issues with some of the school things. Will wasn't HQT to teach Spanish or history or music but yet was teaching them. After the whole Toxic performance, he would have been fired. The whole not actively discouraging teenage drinking thing was so bad....I could do a while video series on this alone. I still love Glee but I feel ya. There's just small things that, especially now that we're adults, just nag at me when I see them.

[@amelieg246]

Honestly I think a video series of "Real teacher reacts to Glee" would be a hit tbh

[@leilanyx]

well technically he wasn't teaching music, he was just running the club and using his music knowledge from being IN the club in high school.

[@Anna-B]

One thing that’s super annoying is that in the first episode, maybe the whole first season, he actually new Spanish!!! Them he magically forgot ALL Spanish... continuity people!

[@ericanaytorrr]

aaahhhh he 100% knew Spanish in season one! And how in HELL does someone get a job teaching a subject they know nothing about/a language they can’t speak????? like?????? they way he was like “oh okay i’ll teach history, i like watching the history channel” boy what??????? and then he wins teacher of the year? because of a successful extracurricular? ie not an actual teaching thing??? ok i’m done lol

[@Anna-B]

ericaidk yesssss!!!!!!!

[@niamhbradley7919]

The thing about glee that gets on my nerves is that they stereotyped Rory and being irish everything they did was just ALL wrong thank you for coming to my ted talk

[@catduff8092]

literally his only personality trait was being irish

[@jackkirwan8146]

Ugh ikr I ended up hating him and I wish I didn't.

[@joeypotter6051]

@@catduff8092 He was cartoon Irish, he didn't do anything actually Irish he just had an Irish accent and wore green

[@fiadaly7217]

I honestly think that's a big reason he won the glee project. The fact that he was Irish made it easier to write a stereotypical Irish role rather than come up with a more original character with any of the other contestants. Lazy writing imho

[@Jay-pj9ni]

When I heard there was going to be an Irish actor on the show I was so excited (I’ve never seen The Glee Project), but I grew to hate him so quickly because he was written so badly.

[@auntiesnixx5071]

I love glee but aside from the obvious what annoyed me most were the missed opportunities of further character development in characters aside from Rachel and Finn (especially the Unholy Trinity and all the new characters who were introduced). EDIT: AND MIKE CHANG! (Basically everyone lol)

[@joeypotter6051]

#JusticeforMikeChang

[@seppyq3672]

I think most tv shows are bad at styling "plus sizes".

[@imshinycaptain]

Literally everyone, actually.

[@hannahwilliams5681]

Unfortunately:(

[@nIkKIfM97]

I’m sorry I’ll never forgive the recasting of Rachel’s dads like I know it was super early on but no 😂

[@AmyLovatt1]

so true, but it happens so often with cast from the pilots changing - Blair Waldorf's mum is a totally different person in the pilot of gossip girl to the second episode!

[@Laramaria2]

One thing that really annoys me about Glee is how they clearly hold Mike (Harry Chum Jr.) back... He was clearly really talented dancer and singer, also handsome and charismatic, but they didn't allow him to show how amanzing he is in every single aspect! And Rory and Harmony were wasted characters 😟

[@Lauren-ch9mi]

I HATED who they turned Blaine’s character into like midway through season 3. Like they totally just started writing his character to create more drama, but it seemed so out of character for Blaine, and it feels like there are two versions of him. Also, Colorblind is the only original on my playlist

[@katybreen2939]

Completely agree with the mercedes one, i really enjoyed the storylines she had, especially when she fought with rachel, but i just think they could’ve done so much more with her character

[@jaao3414]

I loved Mercedes, and I think she was one of the few Glee characters that came out of the show unscathed. I liked a lot of her storylines, too and I loved her romance with Sam, (the main reason I watched the season of them in New York). As a black girl, it was refreshing to see a full-figured, dark-skinned girl like Mercedes be valued and loved unconditionally by a guy that looked like Sam, especially in the fishbowl, social pecking order that is high school. I hate that the show never put them back together!!! (I know they hinted at it at the end, and them getting back together was a scene that was cut...)

[@owenthurber5003]

@@jaao3414 I was gonna comment something about this! I think the best and most in depth story line Mercedes ever got was with Sam.

[@alexatoy401]

i really didn’t like how blaine was really mature and talked about being bullied in season 2 and then they just forgot about it for the rest of the series and made him more childish and dependent on other characters. he didn’t ever really get a backstory which would have been awesome and they gelled darren’s awesome hair down seasons 3-6. like when he went to new york would have been a perfect time to change his hair style to make him look older

[@bruh-ep2je]

In general the way how Ryan Murphy treated so many characters dirty with so much promised potential wasted like Lauren sugar Marley joe unique even main characters like Quinn and Mercedes were just wasted with amazing potential just never wrapped

[@owenthurber5003]

Lauren and Sugar could’ve had such amazing stories. They both had more personality than most of the main characters. Even if their personalities weren’t that great, every single cast member had a big issue in being problematic.

[@milliedavis4031]

I agree they should have continued to explore marleys eating disorder more as it had the potential to become something good if you get me. Also my cup is such an iconic song

[@seppyq3672]

Me too. Having suffered from eating disorders myself, it would have been interesting to me

[@milliedavis4031]

@@seppyq3672 hope your doing better now.

[@seppyq3672]

@@milliedavis4031 yes, thank you. :)

[@milliedavis4031]

@@seppyq3672 your welcome. i know how hard it can be to recover from an eating disorder from experience

[@meganm5398]

Adding on to the couples: I watched the show in high school and I hated that every character required some kind of romantic arc. I was really big into theater and music in high school and I was always really busy and I didn’t have any time or interest in dating until I started college and I feel like that’s not so abnormal that there shouldn’t have at least been one character that wasn’t like “why don’t I have a boyfriend :(“

[@meganm5398]

I understand that it added to the drama but not even one character? Not even one could’ve just been happily single and focused on doing their thing? Ok

[@agelianaioannidou2913]

Agree. Also why there was so much cheating in the show? I never understood that.

[@itspienoon7883]

@@agelianaioannidou2913 fOr ThE sAkE oF tHe DrAmA, they have to make everyone terrible people!

[@hallelewis8188]

@@agelianaioannidou2913 ikr LIKE BE MORE CREATIVE oh my goshhh😐

[@meganm5398]

I loved Becky’s character but I think sometimes the way she was written seemed like kind of a parody and that rubbed me the wrong way too

[@CassieJazz96]

I agree.

[@thisaintnowownow]

Wankyyy

[@hannahcaitriley]

One thing that really annoyed me, was that at the start of season 6, to explain where all of the season 4 newbies were, they said ‘oh they were all forced to transfer’. Firstly, I don’t think that’s how it works, and secondly, there must have been a better reason they could have come up with than that. Idk what, but it just really bugged me 😂😂😂 also it really bugged me how many characters berated their partners for cheating, but they also cheated at other times (eg. Kurt and Blaine, and Finn and Rachel) like they were such big hypocrites 🤦‍♀️ x

[@easterslice]

It bugged me that they were all thrown away, except for Kitty and Unique. Admittedly, Kitty and Unique were the funniest, but I ended up liking most of the newbies. I really thought Marley's songwriter storyline had potential. I wanted to see more of that.

[@hannahcaitriley]

Teresa Celsi I totally agree! I loved Marley because he’s actually really similar to me, so when they just chucked her out I was so sad

[@victorialopez2964]

It would be fine if Marley, Unique and Kitty stayed for season 6 to help Kurt and Rachel with the new group.

[@hannahcaitriley]

victoria lopez 100%

[@sparklingdaisy3169]

@@hannahcaitriley they got rid of Marley because Melissa Benoist was in preparation for Supergirl and it conflicted with her contract with CBS.

[@aislynncarpenter701]

My biggest annoyance: Everybody backing Quinn when she was pressuring Finn to get a job and sacrifice his future, especially when Mercedes says it's Quinn's right to choose the father. As if he's not a human being she's been lying to and manipulating all season! (I've seen the whole show and this one moment in season 1 still makes my blood boil)

[@suchaxcapricorn6420]

*how nobody ever stood up for rachel when people were insulting her in the choir room, including will and finn. santana would call her a dwarf and ugly, neither the teacher nor her boyfriend would step in. i get how people dislike rachel but i felt very bad for her*

[@izzie9020]

And when Ryder shared that he was molested as a kid and Sam and Artie were making all those awful comments Will just sat there. I think he just said like "hey, cut it out." WTF WILL?! That was such a good teaching moment to explain to them why that is not ok to say and that sexual assault can happen to boys/men too but he was so apathetic.

[@suchaxcapricorn6420]

Izzie everyone acted like will cared ab his students but he was v neglectful

[@justsomeone5714]

YES!!!

[@owenthurber5003]

The antiSemitism in the show was really really bad.

[@Agforever12]

As a native to Ohio one thing that annoyed me is that they always say “soda” instead of “pop” we are midwesterns and that is how we speak. Also, they never had a snow day! That would have been a great plot point! They could have had a snow day or frozen pipes right before a big competition! Also they never once said the ”O-H” ”I-O” thing, or spelled out Ohio with their arms when they visited other states, which is something all of us do. And the biggest sin of all, where is the corn?!

[@AmyLovatt1]

omg a snow day would have been awesome!

[@aliciamayte5825]

Well I’m from the Midwest as well but I say “soda” instead of “pop”. So I guess it’s not entirely weird for someone to say “soda” instead of “pop.” But it’s maybe more common then I think in Ohio so I guess they should’ve had at least one character say it.

[@veraweng9908]

As a fellow Midwesterner, I feel ya honey. Also being from a small town (like Lima is supposed to be I think) the place kinda felt huge? Like, I'm not from Ohio, but it seemed like it had a lot of different restaurants, two schools (Dalton (kinda) and WM), a news station, several high-profile politicians, and just a lot of people. Like, I don't know how big Lima is supposed to be, but this doesn't feel like a small Midwestern town. It feels like a small Californian town, or at least medium-sized Midwestern city

[@imnaynay]

Hannah Wenger I have a co worker who’s actually from Lima and she says the show makes it seem bigger and more interesting than it really is lol

[@shyloandromeda4470]

As a person from the east coast living in Ohio, in the actual county and working in the town glee is based out of they all have been saying pop. I fucking hate that you weirdos don't know it's soda but you're correct it's pop here. I have heard not one person call it soda since I got here out of my family and it drives up a wall but it's still how the characters have talked. My director makes that very clearly when we do plays that we have to learn dialect, phrases and accents for them the best we can... That's community college. These writers were lazy. I loved glee but god damn. Lol also I did not move here cause of glee. My favorite aunt lives out here and has been begging us to move here since I was 9.

[@kevinworrall5851]

A very nitpicky thing for me: When the girls covered the Spice Girls, they went to the trouble of dressing up as them, but then didnt have the spice character sing the right lines So for instance they had a line above Unique not wanting to dress as Scary Spice just because she's black. So they dressed her as Baby, but then had her cover Scarys lines in the song? And Marley was dressed as Posh but sang Gingers lines? Like stop! I know it didn't have to be that authentic but part of the fun of dressing up as the SGs is putting on the personna and bringing that to the particular lyrics they would sing

[@saraht9121]

The sue rampage scenes are sending me lmaooo😂😂😂

[@AmyLovatt1]

:D thanks!

[@youchoosemyadventure]

I hated the eating disorder story line. Her costumes don’t fit, but her regular clothes did. So she was on “big” in her costumes. Marly wasn’t Britney. I think she would of figured it out.

[@jacquettediggs4633]

I never thought about it like that. But you’re definitely right!!!

[@bellalopez8972]

the one dislike is ryan murphy

[@catduff8092]

the thing about the competition outfits with the sleeves did get to me

[@ckilbarger01]

Also putting all the girls in heels and Mercedes (then later Lauren) in flats. Like just put them all in the same shoes

[@nanalove3819]

"And that is stupid!" *angry face* *cute smile* "Hi, how are you? I hope you're very very well" I love Amy.

[@merryblueberry5899]

I've got another thing that annoyed me so much: After season 2-3 Sam got so much more stupid, which made no sense. I mean he wasn't the sharpest in the first place, but seriously? I don't know if it was just me, but that's just how I feel. And then suddenly Brittany was a math genius? Uhm where did that come from? xD

[@terra2su]

I'm so glad you said the thing about Finnchel- I also never really thought they were that compatible. The other thing that REALLY annoyed me was how Blaine fully slept with another person in s4 when in s3 he had that HUGE blow up over Kurt TEXTING another guy???? (also Blaine suddenly being a year younger than Kurt??? give me a break)

[@TrollkingIzzy]

Blaine cheating has alway bugged me!!! Blaine was so open-minded and understanding with Kurt at first but with each season he got more and more hypocritical and controlling. The fact he cheats only a few months after the Texting thing make NO SENSE!!

[@ananya_maz]

Something that bothered me so much was that Rachel would beat everyone down, but then be the hero. And the fact that the glee club is one big happy family but that they fight and literally hate each other’s guts. Rachel gives lectures about what’s right and then shoved in all down the toilet if it means her benefit. It doesn’t work

[@gnomansland]

To be fair, it's a pretty accurate representation of some theater kids who need to be the star so badly they'll trample everyone, even people who are supposedly like family to them. That being said, it is wrong that the show made it look like Rachel was in the right for it. On a semi-related note, how come they never really address the fact that she's been bullied pretty horribly for years? They could have shown how that had an impact on her need to be perfect all of the time. I guess they kind of did show it, but not in a deep enough way to create a real arc for her. If I were writing the show, I would have had her learn that with real friends around her who are there to be her support system, she doesn't always have to be the best bc they will catch her when she falls. Kinda cheesy, but a better lesson than the "Rachel is always right" lesson. Although my name's also Rachel, and I am always right 😉

[@MegTalksGlee]

Easily the thing that annoyed me the most where • the treatment of Joe and Sugar from Season 4 onwards. Between Sam and Vanessa they had 1 song where they sung any sort of vocals (3 sung in 4x02) in season 4 and where only in episode where they needed 12 new directions. In season 5 they didn’t even bother asking them back! • the fact that Santana’s coming out episode had nothing on Brittany sure she was more accepting of herself but she had been outed too! There was nothing and the episode just focused mostly on Finn and Kurt for some reason • SHELBY SLEPT WITH PUCK!!! And she didn’t lose her job! How does glee turn Idina Menzel into a pedophile 😭 • also Sam moved out just for his glee club 😭 and like it was never brought up again

[@laurasmithson3088]

And with shelby they paint quin as the bad guy for going to tell on her

[@eliastta437]

Didnt expect you here!

[@eliastta437]

Puck was 18 though. Plus in Ohio AOC is 16.

[@MegTalksGlee]

EliasTTA she's a teacher he's a student it's still vastly illegal still

[@eliastta437]

@@MegTalksGlee sorry to bother but I honestly do not remember, was she his teacher at the time? I thought it wasn't illegal as long as it was not that persons teacher but I could be wrong. I do find the age gap weird and the fact that he had a relationship/fling with both Rachel and her mother.

[@0104brit]

Santana's coming out story in season 3 really bothers me (aside from the stellar acting when Santana comes out to her grandmother). Finn outs her and then justifies it by saying that everyone knows anyway.......like what?

[@imshinycaptain]

And singing a ballad-tempo version of "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" makes it all better. Despite outing someone being one of the most odious things you can do to a person. Disgusting.

[@wm1389]

But sis Finn didn't out her, he said it to HER in response to stuff she said with the sole intention to hurt him and someone overheard him. I love Santana but she actually couldn't expect to go around picking people apart based on their deepest insecurities and expect and no one was ever gonna do the same thing to her. It was just unfortunate that when Finn did it to her, someone overheard and used it against Sue.

[@0104brit]

@@wm1389 Him using that as a way to get back at her in public IS him outting her. That's why when Santana confronted him, he shrugged it off by saying that everyone knows anyway. He may not have meant it, but that's how it was used.

[@tilliequinn5105]

Something that really annoyed me about season 2 of glee in particular is that Kurt especially (and sue) makes a lot of subtle and not too subtle biphobic comments and they made me feel really uncomfortable when I rewatched it recently

[@amelieg246]

Sue made lots of bad judgements so I never take her words too seriously (but the Sue-icide plot line was so poorly handled), but Kurt's words were hurtful

[@eviekenyon574]

Mimosa Amelia whats more hurtful is that instead of being a flaw in kurts character, the offensive comments were treated like they were normal/acceptable. With comments many other characters made its clear what RIB’s views on being bi are

[@Dancersmakeup]

i threw hands when rachel got the tickets.

[@saminicole4438]

This show pisses me off to the highest degree, but I would sell my kidney for this show

[@lolgurl4life34]

Another stupid thing is that they made such a big deal about Ryder having dyslexia when Sam had it too. I know that having dyslexia is hard and I'm not pushing aside the struggles but they just made such a big thing out of it.

[@arynhead03]

I think the biggest thing that always bothered me about Glee was that they had a new "show" / song all the time. I think it mostly just bothered me because I was in show choir in high school and we did the same show for 5 months, not including our Christmas and Spring shows. It was just a lot of repeating the same 5 or 6 songs in the months. I know that probably wouldn't have made for good tv but that always bugged me.

[@laurasmithson3088]

And to make matters worse they'd have stupid excuses for why you hadn't seen this before like the stolen set lists and writing the songs days before performing them. The only tie they did it right was in season 3 referencing choreography for paradise by the dashboard light.

[@arynhead03]

@@laurasmithson3088 Yes! Writing a new song or doing new choreo days before a competition made me so mad.

[@sophieallen8692]

It always bothered me that Rachel and Kurt became the glee teachers in the last season. Especially as someone who actually has a teaching degree, and they so easily got a job with no teaching experience, just pisses me right off!

[@ananya_maz]

A thing that bothered me was something obvious. Rachel getting everything she wanted. They try to make jokes and be self aware to the fat that she gets the solos and best songs and gets away with what she wants but then they just continue shining the spotlight on her and her only. She was also just favored for reasons I don’t know. She sent a kid to a crackhouse and oh it’s fine. Santana burns a piano (yeah it’s bad but) UNDER THE INTRUCTION OF AN EVIL TEACHER and she gets kicked out of the club. I’m not saying that was right but Rachel put another kid in danger because she was scared she wasn’t as good. Wth

[@tatianat.9959]

Nahh rachel really didn’t get everything she wanted and she got in trouble for a lot.

[@lunarblake]

Tatiana T. Did you not watch the show 😂

[@VorpalSpider69]

Facts

[@victoriapitetta3831]

Rachel couldn't participate on sectionals because she cheat on the elections, but she didn't have any kind of punishment for the crackhouse thing. And Santana was kicked out of the glee club for the piano thing and being constantly sabotaging the glee club, but later she just came back from nowhere and quits to being on Mercede's glee club because she's not being appreciated, made no sense.

[@sparklingdaisy3169]

It was Quinn who burned the piano.

[@alexkinggg1987]

one thing i hate about glee is... and this may be very controversial coach beast only transitioned into a male was to help the show look accepting of the transgender community, i am pretty sure that coach beast said in an earlier episode that they were happy being a masculine female just was unhappy in the fact she wasn’t seen as pretty by the majority of males... like i could be seriously wrong but the whole plot line doesn’t sit well with me idk

[@imshinycaptain]

No you're right.

[@georgiairving1234]

Another thing is that we rarely see any Quinn and Brittany interactions. The unholy trinity are meant to be a TRIO and all equally close with each other. We know Santana and Brittany are close and get a lot of screen time between Santana and Quinn but never Quinn and Brittany??

[@mafthew1813]

When Mr shue was tryna have a Baby , I was scared for humanity, we can’t have a Small Twerking baby with a But chin (This sounds like something Sue would say)

[@bwaygirl7344]

I’ve always thought that I’m Still Standing was a good song for quinn and artie because obviously they’re not standing but they’re still here and I thought it just kind of showed that after everything they’ve been through they’re still here, even if they’re not literally standing...but now I see your point. Thanks for recommending the article, it was very interesting and informative :)

[@CherryBlossom3x3]

How you feel about Will/Emma and Rachel/Finn is how I feel about Kurt/Blaine. Like I didn't think they were that compatible beyond a high school crush level and it was just so forced imo.

[@owenthurber5003]

I agree. I would’ve liked to see Kurt with the guy Adam Lambert played (Elliot? I forgot his name 😅)

[@DigiRangerScott]

What makes the least sense to me is writing out the trans character you have, deciding you need a trans storyline, giving it to a character who doesn’t have a typical woman’s figure but boasts her femininity, and when said character transitions, is welcomed into the community by the trans character you already wrote out

[@Karl94inlove]

Completely agree with you, especially with the first point. What also really annoyed me is that most of the new characters were flat and not completely thought through because the writers were too busy concentrating on the originals.

[@shereadsmysteries]

I feel like they just added new stand ins for the original characters. The new characters weren’t their own people. They were just the original characters in new bodies.

[@krissydino]

To your annoyance with Rachel Berry leaving BROADWAY for TV. Remember she wouldn’t move to LA with Finn so he could clean pools and she could be famous!!???

[@oliviastevens188]

Honestly the majority of Quinn's storylines... Every season it was like they absolutely erased all of her character progression and started again? It was like they rolled a dice in the writer's room to randomly generate her storylines. There are so many things they could have done: explored the aftermath of the adoption and the deterioration of her mental health, the relationship with her mum after having been literally disowned and made homeless by her parents when she got pregnant, having been severely bullied when she was younger (which in classic Glee style they made a plot point for 1 episode and then never mentioned it ever again). But no, they were like lmao let's have her steal her baby back and then get in a car crash.

[@isabellebuddock5519]

I just binged watched Glee and other than sleeping and eating that’s all I did for a week

[@liacastrobugliossi8792]

That's literally me this week!

[@prosen8966]

So, first thing. Continuity 🚫 Glee. There was so little continuity in scenes, friends, character development, time going by, that the only place I EVER saw such a thing was w Kurt, his dad, and a bit w Rachel. And the whole Hummel rationale was that Ryan Murphy was reliving his h.s. years thru Kurt. (Which, since he was my fav character was nice, but it didn’t fit the rest of the show.) Secondly, I consider what you mentioned as nit-picky type of things. At least most of them. So. It bugged me that Terry could get to (month 7? I believe) w her pregnancy, & Will didn’t touch her, hug her, do anything that would show him the entire thing was fake. Just, please. It bugged me that Kurt was treated like an alien, a dif type of species at McKinley High but the boys accepted Blaine w’out a problem. Sure he boxed, but he just wasn’t a seriously macho guy (as portrayed on the show) & yet he faced none of the isolation, bullying & crap that Kurt lived thru. It bugged me that the writers had Sam become besties w Blaine bc “he didn’t really get the whole fashion mag thing Kurt had going” (I’m paraphrasing) & then they decided to have him wish to model and said he grew up (at least looking) at fashion mags [bc of his dyslexia] thru most of his childhood. As if they had no idea what they had written one year earlier. It bugged me that in s1, ep4, Finn had no trouble telling Kurt he wasn’t gay & so they could be friends but... and then apparently Finn suffered from amnesia and couldn’t recall the ten second easy going convo he had w Kurt way back when & became a seriously problematic homophobe. (I honestly believe Puck would have been flattered, sort of like Sam in season 4, had Kurt crushed on him.) It bugged me that Finn had such a double standard re cheating as for when it was done TO him as opposed to doing it himself. It bugged me that the writers couldn’t have just broken up the boys (sorry, Klaine) bc of long distance being problematic, but instead they threw Blaine under a bus. (I would never have pegged his character as the cheating type. And, tbh, I wasn’t as thrilled w the “character development “ TPTB gave to Blaine, meaning I wasn’t so happy w him and Kurt but STILL I thought it was a cheap and stupid plot line.) It bugged me that Brittany not only dated Artie and Sam, for ex., but that when Santana (her true love, the one from the very beg she cared abt like to the moon and back) when Santana wanted to get together or fix a breakup, Brittany always chose the boys. It wasn’t that I had a problem w her bisexuality- it was just that the writers worked so hard to make the audience believe that Brit was head over heels for Satan, but she couldn’t bring herself to break up w two guys, neither of whom with which she had a truly meaningful relationship. Her whole thing w Sam was based on Santana and her breaking up, so that bugged me. I was seriously annoyed that the writers had Emma ultimately writing those hysterical pamphlets herself. It actually didn’t fit her character, and that ruined the entire joke that had run thru 4 or 5 seasons of Glee. I watched the Glee Project but I thought the entire thing was fairly stupid (IMPO) & the decisions were random. Thus, I didn’t care that neither Joe or Rory got good storylines bc neither one struck me as a good actor. You can say they weren’t given good material, but the thing is, the ppl who stand out from the crappy material of much of Glee WERE good actors. Kurt, Santana, Brit, even Mike became much more essential after season one bc they stood out, they made the material pop. Mike was hysterical (and clearly a better BF than Artie was w any of his GFs.) Unique might have worn sad clothing, but she was amazing, not just her voice but in portraying a trans character in progress. (At least, to me. I don’t know much about that.) Indeed, I thought the Gerber baby was also a good actress & would have loved to see more of her. The problem (in my eyes) was that TPTB didn’t get a real feel for who would do well on the show, and they picked poorly. It bugged me that out of all of Westerfield and Lima Ohio, Blaine chose to date the boy who originally made Kurt’s high school life a living hell. That’s why they met. I don’t care that Kurt forgave him bc his FIANCÉ should not have had the same feelings. Just like I still, decades later, dislike the men and women who made my sisters’ lives more difficult when they were younger, Blaine should not have dated Dave. In this or any other lifetime. It bugged me that when Blaine became a permanent part of Glee, his rise was in direct proportion to Kurt’s fall. (Not that Kurt really “fell”, but the amount of singing and amnt of time on screen grew smaller as a result of Blaine’s getting larger.) CC started missing actual episodes, and this occurred right after he won the Golden Globe for his performance on the show. I’ve never seen anything quite like that. Normally that would mean more screen time for the winner, not less. I wouldn’t have cared if it had affected everyone equally, except it didn’t. Like I said, mainly Blaine’s role grew bigger thru making Kurt’s smaller. And as a HUGE Kurt fan, that bugged me ENORMOUSLY. It bugged me that Sam got stupider as the years progressed, very similar to what was seen on Friends w Joey. Finn was always two loafs short, Brittany had an entirely dif way of seeing the world, but Sam just got stupid. He didn’t start off that way, and I’m not sure why he lost 10-15 IQ points every season. It bugged me that after Carl married Emma, he didn’t think he needed marriage counseling for approximately six months and he and his wife weren’t sleeping together. That’s weird. If they had decided to have a platonic marriage, that would be dif, be clear.y that wasn’t the case so why did he wait for so long before doing something about it? That was beyond odd. And speaking of ‘stupid’, I’m sure there are kids living in Appalachia who knew more abt sex Ed then the morons sitting in Holly’s class. Never have I heard such stupidity, like OMG I had a cucumber for lunch! now I’m in trouble!! But, now, to be fair, I could do this all day and night and still have more random things to say abt the show, but overall, while I watched it and rewatched it, and re rewatched it, etc., I remember thinking how much I loved it (as a general rule) and I own every single song, episode, fanfic (practically), fanvid, anything on earth to do with Glee and still listen to the music ad nauseum. Indeed, I was thinking just the other day that even tho we found out recently (or recently for me, anyway) that Lea M was a horrible bitch, I still adore her music and her acting on the show itself. I realize that knowing this abt her should somehow make a difference, but I’d rather be able to watch a show I idolized for six years than throw it all away bc MS was a pedophile, CM & NR died in tragic accidents, and apparently LM was an awful person. I guess IS an awful person (albeit not as awful as MS.) Last if all (bc this is yet another novel) I always preferred Rachel and Jessie to Finchel - even while Cory was still alive. They had fantastic screen chemistry, they had similar goals, and they just seemed to click. Whenever Rachel and Finn dated, there were always problems and they were such different people and they had very little in common (except that they both thought Rachel was a goddess.) Whoops I was going to end on this note, but I just recalled something that bugged the SHIT out of me. Finn’s soon to be stepdad was ill, thought to be on his deathbed, but he never once prayed to Grilled Cheesus for Burt. What a wanker. I know teenagers often think abt themselves but this made Finn appear like maybe 4 years of age, to be SO incredibly “ give me this, and that, and the sex thing, bc I want to be so very popular and touch Rachel’s boobs.” I mean, WTELF?! (Thats everloving in that last acronym). Sorry so long!! 🥰

[@prosen8966]

Chocomello2 Actually, I wrote that on purpose but it’s exactly the type of thing autocorrect does. Remember the episode when everybody (the girls and Kurt) were trying on dresses for Prom? He calls her that in that episode, and a few times afterwards. I got sick of typing Santana, Santana, Santana. I thought the nickname was funny and accurate. 😘🥰

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

I was annoyed by the way they threw away the Dave Karofsky character after a whole season of buildup by making him move, have Blaine become even more self-centered and obnoxious without it being the joke (and that scene in the Scandals parking lot was very uncomfortable), have the character outright vanish after the big episode because apparently Blaine's brother was more important (it WASN'T) and the cheating when they tried to make Blaine the victim. He was the one who hypocritically hooked up with a dude on Facebook after his boyfriend left for NYC after HIS speech in which he encouraged him. AND THE SHOW TOOK HIS SIDE!

[@emilyrisch6936]

I recommend watching ‘here’s what we missed on glee’ - goes into a lot of plot holes you mentioned

[@AmyLovatt1]

ooh ill check it out!

[@beccabex321]

it always bothered me how many of the first generation of high schoolers ended up in endgame relationships with each other. I get that the show is ridiculous in many, many ways, but it felt weird to me that so many people who originally got together at like 16 were "endgame," particularly when so many of them moved away after high school and really likely would have moved on/grown apart. I think there were... at least 4 sets of them? it was just too much for me & I feel like it really stunted a lot of character growth to have them returning to the same relationships over and over. they should have picked one, MAYBE two, imo.

[@amychatterton2171]

i feel every point very hard. something that makes me very angry is when finn literally outs santana and then sings “girls just wanna have fun” and then she’s like cool with him. like huh?

[@AmyLovatt1]

eurgh you're so right!

[@taccos3524]

When we first meet Sam we are told he isn’t actually blond but he keeps dyeing his hair because Quinn likes it, but his siblings are blond? It’s like they forget their own plot points.

[@sarahr4835]

I hate the fact that Rachel’s first time being pregnant the baby was for klaine also she was on broadway when she was in her third trimester 🙄

[@arwen7755]

I mean, you're completely right about Unique's clothes. But then again, I find it hard to find one (1) single character that dressed like a normal high school kid - maybe Finn, or Sam, but that's it.

[@julianasilveira4806]

This is very niche but I was so pissed when the official Glee account (I think it was them, or it was one of the writers/producers) once tweeted "Before there was Samcedes, there was Bram", about how Sam and Mercedes got together in season 4, after Sam dated Brittany. But like... Did they even watch their own show? Samcedes was a thing all throughout season 3, having started at the end of season 2..?

[@stydianation1135]

The thing that annoys me more than anything is Quinn’s story line it’s like they had to do story lines to make it interesting and Quinn would do it!!

[@Phelie315]

What always annoyed me were the constantly changing couples. For a while there I thought they were on a mission to have every possible romantic combination be a thing, even just for a short amount of time. Whether it made any sense or not. That drove me up the wall ngl

[@laurasmithson3088]

Im 1000% sure it was only so they could do break up songs and provide fan service

[@beryla4979]

Agree so much like some of the couples were just random like WHY????

[@belles8095]

Fun story: I tripped over the other day holding a slushie, it went in my face and my friends now say I Gleed myself✌️

[@AmyLovatt1]

hahah this is amazing!

[@seppyq3672]

I agree about the Rachel and Cats thing too. That sounds like a line that was written for Britney.

[@ToothlessBird]

IT'S TURKY LURKY TIME

[@jackkirwan8146]

WHYYYYY I HAD SUPPRESSED THAT 😭😭😭

[@funderberker]

Stop it, my sOUL HURTS

[@loveandhate52]

oh god noooo! i remember being stoked to hear Let's Have a Kiki and then it got mashed up with....that

[@beryla4979]

NOOO I blocked that from my memory😭😭

[@theoperatripleaxel5417]

I hate that they NEVER sing a choir song... NOT A SINGLE CHOIR SONG! All solos, and all choir parts are done in studio with a program that make the harmonized parts sound like a robot! The only times they di harmonize together was in the first episode in "Freak Out" and in about 2 other short short short songs.

[@stripedbandit5252]

Rachel sending a girl to a crack House and having no consequences um i mea-

[@andreasmith9809]

People on here mentions that Damian Mcginnty’s character should have been like Niall Horan. They do realize that Damian is from a very successful international band called Celtic Thunder which he has been in since he was a young boy, right? That’s what bothered me is that they had the opportunity to use one of their songs for him to sing and they chose for him to sing it’s not easy being green. I was very disappointed.

[@izzyhenare7601]

FINALLY a new Glee video to gleek out with other strangers that are gleeks too. ❤️

[@lyfeboat9047]

“Things about glee that fill me with rage” Me: every time Rachel was on screen