Things I hate about the new 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 stone

[@twistedgreymatter]

It doesnt have an actual fuel gauge level, but it does have miles to empty indicator. which is essentially a fuel gauge.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I didn't know this actually

[@bobmassey7227]

Yeah, thought that was as good if not better when I realized mind had that feature.

[@deusexmachinawl]

I don’t understand riders who hate something about their bikes.. when I find something that I can upgrade I do it otherwise I focus on the good stuff.. riding would be so annoying If I had a feeling of hatred for my bikes 😅

[@bikerbeliever8169]

The v7 is a good bike and I love that bike lol. No such thing as a perfect bike. If it was perfect it might be too boring. Lol.

[@xtrythis1170]

The Agostini pipes on my stone S are amazing. Highly recommend. They're pricy but well worth it and all made in Italy where the bikes are made which is cool.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

yeah thats what Im waiting on right now either from them or from the motivcycles in Oklahoma, they make an awesome custom exhaust for this bike.

[@saddle8bag]

I don't like that it doesn't have a gas gauge. Not a deal breaker, but I can never remember to reset a tripmeter at the gas station. The Guzzis seem to be selling pretty well in my area. They deserve to. Piaggio has done a great job with them.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I agree 100%. they should have made the eagle in the dash be the gas gauge, that wouldve been so cool. Its a great bike overall. Ive not rode a bike without something I can nitpick.

[@Wabbit1961]

Resetting the odometer is the first thing I do at the pump before I turn my bike off. How can you nit-pick about that, sheesh.

[@morbidrockgod]

I actually think the bike being quiet is an asset!

[@bikerbeliever8169]

It can be depending on kind of riding you are doing. Sound can be exciting but tiring if riding long trips.

[@billycaspersghost7528]

I ride a V7 III and one of the reasons is it is just an old time type roadster bike. Not a cruiser,ADV ,dirt bike or sports bike that dominate the market now. Once nearly all bikes were like this before the split into different styles. This thing is fast enough for me, is lighter than a Harley and it has a huge tank. I put a screen on mine and it makes a great all round little tourer. Not great for the desert or high speed freeway. But 95% of everything else it does very well and very ,very enjoyably. This is really the bottom line ,I can`t explain scientifically or technically why ,but I ride this thing more than any bike I have had in years.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I know I love it. It has great feel and character. Amazing machine.

[@aridragonbeard745]

If those rough roads are making you feel like you're gonna get launched off the seat, add some preload to the rear shocks. I was having the same problem with my V7 III and adding some preload made a HUGE difference for me. I weigh about 250 lbs and gave it about 8 turns. Also, those rough roads, at least from what can be seen in the video, look pretty typical of New England back roads.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I havent fooled with the preload yet you are right though

[@edcgadgets-de]

I absolutely agree with you in most points. I fitted Bitubo rear shocks with adjustable preload and rebound to tune them to my taste and black adjustable levers. And bar-end mirrors, are just a bit more beautiful. Get the bike, spend some cash on upgrades and it’s the best it can be.

[@antoneandrade8005]

Planning to get this as my first bike. Really like how quiet the exhaust is because I absolutely hate my dumbass neighbors with their stupid ass loud pipes all the time.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

It has a good sound, and with the quieter exhaust you can hear the mechanics of the motor and gearbox much better, which a lot of people prefer that. Its very unique experience on this bike that I haven't felt on any other bike out there, and is very nice imo.

[@genegoodwin8925]

I own a $37,000 Harley and the gear indicator acts the same. A lot of it is in the operator, it will not show which gear you just shifted to unto the clutch is fully engaged. As far as the exhaust, all manufactures had to quiet their exhaust in order to sell in certain market areas. You Kawasaki has forward controls so that's an unfair comparison. It's a GUZZI be glad and enjoy it.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I dont hate the Guzzi or any of my bikes. The video is just to point out little nuances. I have yet to find any bike out there that doesn't have some kind of quirk or something that can't be nit picked.

[@meshplates]

There is also more open mufflers from Zara for the V7, which is another Italian brand.

[@Larry_Mott]

*Zard.

[@jimmyb4982]

The fact that this is a niche bike makes it all the more appealing to me. I wouldn't want to see them everywhere like Japanese bikes. Think Apple products in the 80s and 90s. Now every man and his dog has an iPhone.

[@Daccio88]

I got the V9 MY2021, so in fact same engine of the V7 2021, and even if I'm happy AF about my choice and I couldn't have take a better moto for my tastes, I've to say the sound is really shit on mine as well. Unfortunately is not all Moto Guzzi's fault, with the new EURO 5 laws we've got in Europe, every new bike that is E5, has a terrible sound. So I'm considering the extra expense for the Agostini, Mistral or Zard pipes. It's a shame because they're not cheap bikes, and bying new exhausts wasn't on program. Beside that, they're amazing bikes.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

yeah, the engine itself has a great tone and growl to it, but its muffled horribly by the euro5 compliant mufflers/exhaust setup. If you want to hear what this bike is intended to sound like you got to have some slip ons or better set of pipes to hear it the way it was intended

[@winsomey6801]

Hello really appreciate your effort for showing your v7, I just went to check it out yesterday and immediately fell in love with it. Just wondering if you have Any reliability issue with it.... thanks

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I don't have it anymore but at 7000 miles it ran flawlessly before selling.

[@JonSmith-fc2mm]

Silver levers means that you won't get wear through any black coating. Ask me how I know ;)

[@bikerbeliever8169]

cant disagree with that lol

[@markmcintosh7095]

I love mine and have the v85tt also. I've had just about every bike made and the Guzzis is my favorite.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yes they just got great feel and character that you don't get in other bikes. Other bikes feel like toys the Guzzi feels like a solid raw machine, it's nice.

[@lalbertogm]

About the indicators, in Europe it has much nicer LED ones. Tail light and indicators in the US are hideous. Probably to do with regulations

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I agree fully I have already ordered new ones

[@bikerbeliever8169]

@dagamanz i think its US only problem. Regulations are getting a bit out of hand on things.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

@dagamanz wow

[@bikerbeliever8169]

@@bhapi id say since you live in Europe you ain't got nothing to worry about

[@cubbysue]

New pipes, fixes #2 and #4. Sounds like a win, win.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

cant wait to get new exhaust, make riding it that much better. Im trying to figure out if the v7 iii slip on exhausts is direct fit or carryover for the 2021 year bikes.

[@randallsguaranteedsold6361]

Good review, or update…. Thinking this might be my next bike (when they are available)

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I live my v7 just enjoyable bike to ride great all round.

[@carlmarkwyatt]

I've got a 2022 V7 Stone and that came with LED indicators but it is a UK bike.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yeah Europe has led US has garbage bubble incandescent

[@TomVestvik]

Oh! This is lacking a fuel gauge too! I’m trying to choose between this and a BMW R nine T, who also lack a fuel gauge. This is close to a deal breaker for me and my range anxiety. Maybe I’ll have to go for one of those modern bikes … PS! Been thinking of Supertrap for this bike.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

The fuel gauge on this bike shouldnt be a deal breaker. The range is easily 250 miles unless you flog it constantly. When the warning reserve light comes on you can figure 50 to 70 miles depending on how you ride, so plenty of time to find a gas station typically unless you are in the desert or something. The R Nine T, though I have not rode it yet, is going to be a much faster bike, but its typically lot more expensive, and Ive heard from others that it has some shaft jacking, which you wont get with the v7, or shouldnt. I know the R Nine T, depending on taste, has a great sound as well and Im sure has a ton of feel and character just like the v7. Its probably from a consumer perspective going to boil down to whether or not you want that extra horsepower and different sound as well as if you want to dish out several more grand unless you find a good used one in good shape.

[@walkoptic]

Hi Tom, I’ve just bought a V7 centennial model. Delivery mid October. As I see it, with a 20 ltr tank it’ll will give you great Mileage. When the low fuel light comes on you still have at least 50 kms range ,maybe more.. Where I live ( Johannesburg) there’s plenty of petrol stations. When I take delivery I’ll obviously fill the tank up,trip computer zero and see what happens. I also looked at the BMW R nine . Probably a better machine but the Guzzi has CHARACTER 😎

[@TomVestvik]

Thank you for your answers. I’ve been thinking of this lately, and I’m pretty sure the lack of a fuel gauge isn’t going to be a serious issue. I’ve been wanting a V7 for a few years now, and a more relaxed bike like this probably would do me well. The large fuel tank, shaft drive, and the relaxed engine characteristic have been pulling me in the direction of this bike. I’m living in Norway, and hope to one day take a bike way east of Europe. 🙏🏻

[@walkoptic]

@@TomVestvik morning Tom, I’d be interested in your decision , model , colour chosen etc . The Centennial version I ordered is standard , no extras . A few comments are to fit a ‘louder’ exhaust . I personally can’t see the point in that . Buy a Harley for a loud exhaust ! Good luck Tom

[@TomVestvik]

@@walkoptic Thank you! Don’t want it too loud. Just a nice melody.

[@therealunclevanya]

Mistrals or Agostinis sound great, several videos out there (Dave Berman and Dreamweaver)

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yeah Dreamweaver is a good channel he did awesome vid on the mistrals for this bike. They sound great, I figured I'd go a different route and post it so people could hear them on the new 850 on the v7 and compare and see which setup they prefer on their bike.

[@karlbishop7481]

The sidestand tang can be bent out a little bit to make it easier to engage. If you think that road is bad don't come to Calif. Lean angle? I have a V7lll Special and I haven't even come close to dragging footpegs. I am not really aggressive rider but I am not a sissy rider either. Enjoy your bike I love mine for local riding, I have a big block Guzzi for long distance riding. My only gripe is the gear case whine can be obnoxious at times. Once you get more used to your bike neutral is easy to find in fact one of the easiest of all the bikes I have ridden. It just takes a soft touch.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I dont mean the lean angle is bad, its just not superb. I drag it a lot, but Im not aggressive rider, just spirited at times. Trust me you would have to feel the road to realize how bad some of them are. Not every one of them, but that back road I was on was like I was rock crawling, the video dont show it at all. I love the bike it is awesome, Im riding it a lot more now that the sun is finally staying out for us.

[@themarvelousvintage76]

The European version has led turn signal (check the italian review of this bike)the one guzzi import in usa has bulb maybe some stupid regulation here in US......

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yeah it sucks

[@Theophilus1968]

Is it jarring your back on the bad bumps? Thanks for the vid.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

No, this bike dont hurt my spine at all. My Vulcan 650 is a cruiser style with my butt holding near all my weight on the bike and it jars my spine as well as my wifes over some bumps. The v7 is really good to me though, very compliant.

[@Theophilus1968]

@@bikerbeliever8169 , super! That's what I was hoping to hear. Thank you.

[@dustytriumph]

Looks great in that black you have. Been thinking about this as my second bike. Surprising that this bike has a when to shift indicator but no fuel gauge or LED turn signals. ATM I'm thinking this or the Indian Scout Sixty. Beautiful country where you ride. Curious where?

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I ride in Hillsboro, KY. The scout sixty gonna be faster, but probably less comfortable without some mods the seat and rear suspension. Still both good bikes imo.

[@LuckyDogGaming]

Considering a V7, SV650x, or a XG750 Street Rod for my first bike.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Ive rode the Harley street and the Moto guzzi v7 imo is a muchhhh better bike. I didnt hate the Harley street but it is not even close to as nice as the Moto Guzzi and the Guzzi Im pretty sure is going to be quicker. The Harley Street revs a little better, but dont have as good of a feel from the motor, not as grunty feeling imo. I have not rode the sv650 so I cant comment on it. I think the Guzzi looks better, the sv650 is more naked sport bike kind of, so Id imagine its going to be a quicker machine, probably better lean angle, easier to turn in etc. The v7 does handle good though and to me I feel like its effortless to get the bike to turn in and lot of fun.

[@LuckyDogGaming]

@@bikerbeliever8169 I really want the V7 but you can get a brand new SV650X (2019) for $6000 out the door. My Moto Guzzi dealer is quoting me 10,7xx. I’m new to negotiating for a bike, can I? And if so what’s a reasonable discount for me/profit for the dealer?

[@jamesclarkson3009]

Is the clutch easy to adjust? I've heard they can be a pain.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

I think it is it's just like most other bikes with cable clutch

[@vasilisdedes5100]

It's a great bike, enjoy it!

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Thanks and absolutely am.

[@hugodacosta]

In Europe the indicators are LED.

[@chuckmatses6803]

Ya, we don’t care that it’s “not a sports bike”. The sports bike is not the end all of bikes. They are very fast, but so what. Most bikes are fast enough, especially in traffic, a ha.

[@michaelcooke8665]

Put reverse cones on it make it loud

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Oh yeah absolutely gonna upgrade the exhaust, hopefully sooner then later, probably be after first break in service. Break in is like around 1000 miles, maybe just tad less on this bike, its rained forever here and have not got to ride as much as I would like.

[@rballenger7]

Can it wheelie and have power to keep it up

[@bikerbeliever8169]

in the right hands probably, almost any bike can in the right hands. I don't know if I want to be doing that on this bike though, its just too nice, to me anyways. I have seen people wheelie previous v7 though, not holding it, but just simple front tire pickup a few feet off road.

[@timh5653]

All the dealers that carried Moto Guzzi around me have dropped them.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Dude that sucks. I have a few around me, one is not purely dedicated Moto Guzzi, but they seem to be bringing them in pretty good now. If you really like the bike though it would be worth taking a few hours trip to pick one up imo. They seem to be really easy to work on, very basic easy maintenance, great machines for sure, or at least the newer versions that I have rode.

[@sdhute]

Looks like the back roads of Arkansas

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yes lol probably very similar

[@orangevst]

The flipping gear box... it is the only thin in that bike that makes you hate it. Such a machine with that gearbox if beyond belief.

[@caverunbassmaster7659]

You're not riding that bike in Kentucky by any chance are you??

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yep I bought mine at Gateway cycles as well

[@caverunbassmaster7659]

@@bikerbeliever8169 recently bought mine there also 👍🏼 I'm from Bath co

[@caverunbassmaster7659]

@@bikerbeliever8169 I recognized the covered bridge lol

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yes Goddard. I'm building a house in Hillsboro staying at mom and dads while building on Bath County line in Grange City

[@Brandtalones]

It's rather novel that you are able to leave the bike running whilst on the side stand. I did not expect that.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

If it's in neutral yeah. As soon as you shift to gear it'll shut off the bike, safety feature, on most bikes now a days.

[@ivanz4043]

If you cannot work out whether you need to go up or down a gear and need a gear indicator then you need a lesson or two.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

uhm yeah a gear indicator is not a need, but it is still nice to have one. Reason I like one for me is so i dont shift into an imaginary 7th gear on the highway

[@ivanz4043]

@@bikerbeliever8169 we all do that but only once and it's over

[@ericc365]

Guzzi = Gootsi. Like pizza. Not guzzy.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

your right, ive heard so many different people say it so many different ways i have no idea the true accepted way to say it

[@WoBlink1961]

Hmm..... Technically, if the 'oo' is pronounced like in 'good' then you are correct; but not if it is pronounced like in 'noose'. However, I would say that Paris is meant to be pronounced as 'Pari', Berlin as 'Bairlinn' and Reims as 'Raaaa'... the point is nobody does it. Here in the UK where Moto Guzzis have been relatively common since the 70s, they are always known as Guzzies. Anyone pronouncing it 'Gootsi' (short oo) would be considered almost as pretentious as someone pronouncing 'spaghetti' with an Italian accent.

[@davidpate6095]

That looks like Appalachia.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Yes sir it is

[@johanstam3602]

Fuel cap sucks

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Agreed

[@BlueRidgeRider]

Wow. Are you not aware that we have a federal government? The stupid turn signals are mandated by the DOT. Our outdated specs are based on square inches, not the light volume. Same with the taillight. Look at the European version of this bike and you’ll see how it was designed to be. As for the gear indicator, it is not a switch and contact affair like some bikes have. It CALCULATES the gear based on math. It uses rpm vs speed to figure it out. Of course it can’t calculate anything with the clutch pulled because you are not “in any gear” as far as the bike can tell. Dragging your foot is because you point your toes at the ground. Learn to ride like an Italian, or any racer. Put the ball of your foot on the peg, not the arch. The government also mandates the sound. So none of your complaints are caused by Moto Guzzi. I know this is an old video so I hope you have learned how to pronounce it.

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Uhm dude I love the v7 and basically all Moto Gootsies. It's OK Gootsies are my favorite. My complaints are minor things and don't take away from the v7 being an exceptionally great machine.

[@greensun2153]

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