Things just got interesting - Pro Touring Triumph Build - Project GT6R - Ep10

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@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
We've got a lot to cover today! If you want to see the next episodes a day early check us out on Patreon. www.patreon.com/FanatikBuilds Major props to Scott Costanzo for leading the way on this engine/transmission setup! forum.britishv8.org/read.php?2,41895,page=1
@damianlindsey6177
@damianlindsey6177 4 жыл бұрын
You know, you could've just used the 3800 Camaro bellhousing. It uses the ford t5 transmission bolt pattern, has a starter mount, and is like 25 bucks at the junkyard. Hell, could've just scored the whole transmission from a 97-02 v6 5 speed and had the proper input shaft. Just food for thought. Killer gt6. I'm doing essentially the same thing to a 1971 vega.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
@@damianlindsey6177 I don't recall seeing that option when I was researching, I knew of the 2.2l S10 bellhousing, but both of those have the starter bump on the driver's side, and due to clearance issues, we need the starter in a more typical location for the LS. Also, we needed either a V8 world class unit, or something of similar strength. The 2004 Mustang V6 unit is available in junk yards still around here and has the second highest torque number available, shy of the T5-Z! :) One of the next episodes (maybe ep20) will go over what we've done, we're pretty pleased! Thanks for the input and kind words, hope you'll enjoy what's to come! Good health to your family in the new year 👍
@damianlindsey6177
@damianlindsey6177 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds the t5 in the 97-02 camaro is a wc t5. It's basically a ford wc t5 with a 14spline input shaft. The starter is located on the lower right on the bell just like the ls cars amd bolts to the bell housing. This gt6 you guys are building is absolutely amazing and really going to be watching how you solve the front accessory drive issue I ran into lol. The crank snout is 10mm shorter than any of the other ls engines and causes some major belt alignment issues I haven't gotten around to solving 😂😂😂
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
@@damianlindsey6177 Thanks Damian! Good to know and hope you'll enjoy our solutions! All the best! 🙂👍
@MrUltraworld
@MrUltraworld 3 жыл бұрын
The LS is a great engine, but you picked the wrong LS. There's 2 all-aluminum LS's found in trucks that displace 6.0 & 6.2, engines that I pay $1500 for that come with the computer and harness. I buy about 12 a year and rebuild for my friends. It's a hobby of mine. For $4k I can get decent LT's. We can get 650/600 hp/tq with the right combination of parts. It makes a great drifting motor. We have one in a BRZ that's a blast to drive. The LS4 is not a good choice for rwd or a manual trans. But I love everything else about your build. The chassis looks great, and your choice of suspension front and rear I think is brilliant. I subscribed. and will watch you complete this build. It's going to turn out well I'm sure.
@Mrjonblakely
@Mrjonblakely 2 жыл бұрын
I was ready to sharpen my pitchfork as well when I saw the LS4 swap in a later episode. Your chart calmed my anger when I realized you will actually save 60lbs over the iron block I6. My arm chair build has an LFX but I really admire all your work and effort, well done sir.
@somdood3292
@somdood3292 Жыл бұрын
i know this is 3 years old but your knowledge on engines and transmissions is huge and im sure thats a biproduct of hours of research for what works with this car but this entire build has been impressive so far(binge watching) and then this episode happened and i hit that subscribe. Thank you.
@garethlittlewood6344
@garethlittlewood6344 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, an LS really was the only option in terms of support, weight, size and power! Looking forward to more!!
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gareth! They've been done before so many times, but hopefully the LS4 route will be a new take for many! Thanks for all the support! :)
@StuartRiley23
@StuartRiley23 4 жыл бұрын
The reason the internet is bored of LS swaps is because it’s not creative, and it’s all been done before. Even though you’ve ended up with an LS, this is still a creative solution. Besides, the internet doesn’t have to live with the headache that a Rover V8 would be. Even in the UK they’re known for being unreliable and, unlike Canada, we have easy access to spares.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head there Stuart! Appreciate the support, thanks! :)
@SuperRhysevans
@SuperRhysevans Ай бұрын
its like watching a young Nic Blackhurst... Love it, glad I found your channel,
@mry82
@mry82 2 жыл бұрын
Respect for piecing it all together!
@lordodin5755
@lordodin5755 Жыл бұрын
I'm Dutch i rarely get V8s so i'll vicariously live through you guys building one
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 4 жыл бұрын
I see hints of BOM in the presentation (especially the ending), and I like how it works. :-) Sad you're not able to use a Rover 3500 to keep the whole "Britishness" of it all, but more than understandable when considering budget and availability, so can't blame you there. Besides, this engine is rather more of an oddball, thus more interesting in a way...which is always a plus in my book. Looking forward to the next installment. Cheers, mate.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hopefully it'll help give some ideas to people who never thought the LS4 was worth the effort! Lots to come :)
@BigHeinen
@BigHeinen 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the Rover V8's all started life as American V8's anyway so the American heritage is there! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Loving this series. Quirky, original and humorous. Truly a great antidote to Binky blues!
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 3 жыл бұрын
Classic episode. In tears.
@ts302
@ts302 3 жыл бұрын
Love the valve spring removal tool tip! Thank you.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you're the first person to mention that, thanks! It worked for us, and I'll pay $3 for a C-clamp over $150 for the special tool any day! 😂
@Disinterested1
@Disinterested1 4 жыл бұрын
my personal view on modding a car is " are you happy with it?" if so then great !! ... who else did you build it for?
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@hmlandscape
@hmlandscape 4 жыл бұрын
LOL I nearly died at the pitchfork sharpening 😂
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
:) cheers buddy!
@SimpsonsClassics
@SimpsonsClassics 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving this build. Honestly wish LS’s where more common in the UK would be ace for some projects over here.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny isn't it, we wish there were more Rover V8s in Canada - we always want what we can't have! Thanks again sir, I hope you'll enjoy the rest of the project!
@SimpsonsClassics
@SimpsonsClassics 3 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds we should do a trade aha. Keep the videos coming 👍
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimpsonsClassics Haha! Maybe for a future project! :) Cheers man!
@SimpsonsClassics
@SimpsonsClassics 3 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds yes that would be epic to do something from across the pond 👍
@tahwnikcufos
@tahwnikcufos 4 жыл бұрын
"But what about...?, Oh, you knew that too ;-)" This going to be an amazing build - you most certainly did your homework! Great update!
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, thanks! Yes, quite a lot of research went into this project. I started planning for it about 2 years ago so it's fun seeing things coming together - more to come soon!
@aaronring4704
@aaronring4704 2 жыл бұрын
I had a MKI in high school, and I'm eager to see where the next 17 episodes go! Fun fact (which I see from a later ep's thumbnail that you've addressed): a GT-6 is a Spitfire with an I-6 shoehorned in and a coupe top welded on. And no other mods. Most notably, it's a stock Spit radiator trying to cool two more cylinders. Like I said, I can't wait to see the results!
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aaron, hope you enjoy catching up a bit! Yep, we just started into the cooling system in the most recent episode, hoping we'll be running cooler than ever! 🙏💪 Cheers and welcome to the project!
@thegenerousdegenerate9395
@thegenerousdegenerate9395 4 жыл бұрын
This was surprisingly entertaining for a video where absolutely nothing actually happened. Seriously... Good job. That can not be an easy feat to accomplish. 👍
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, not much to show in terms of wrenching (could have gone into the engine tear down more but it's been covered so much), but I can assure you months of work and research went into this! :) Thanks for the kind words, hope you'll enjoy what's to come!
@jimbranham3281
@jimbranham3281 4 жыл бұрын
I will be waiting to see how it goes. It will be interesting. Good job on the video production.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jim! Looking forward to sharing more - lots to come!
@martinmessersmith2900
@martinmessersmith2900 Жыл бұрын
Well planned out!
@SixPackDan
@SixPackDan 4 жыл бұрын
YES!!! follow YOUR dream!
@Sam-gb2hq
@Sam-gb2hq 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up guys! You did good!
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam - appreciate the support!
@mpg500
@mpg500 4 жыл бұрын
Really good presenting style.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt - it was a surprisingly difficult video to make, but I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 4 жыл бұрын
(I haven’t finished watching this video yet, but) - I’m already convinced! Crack on brother...
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil!
@MikeHammill-TheShop
@MikeHammill-TheShop 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this drive train install. You've got my mind racing on my Spitfire...
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! Lots of info to come in the next episodes, hope you'll find it helpful!
@MikeHammill-TheShop
@MikeHammill-TheShop 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds I'm sure I will. Thank you for sharing what you are doing. I also appreciate that you show the mistakes (as we all make), and how you adjust. You guys are good.
@MrWaalkman
@MrWaalkman 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think of a GT6 as a "Spitfire on the half shell". :)
@witchcraftauto
@witchcraftauto 3 жыл бұрын
That was some seriously great information for anyone thinking of an LS swap! You guys must have done a ton of research
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
There was a bit of research!! Thanks man! Newer episodes are a bit less talky fyi 😊👍
@ezacher4634
@ezacher4634 4 жыл бұрын
4 G 63 TURBO NOISES! Reliable 400 HP
@damianlindsey6177
@damianlindsey6177 4 жыл бұрын
No 4g63 is reliable at 400hp. Been down this road with three separate cars.
@Afrodizyak47
@Afrodizyak47 4 жыл бұрын
Yopu guys are doing a great job on this.. a credit to you on your first attempt
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Curtis! It's a real learning experience and we're having fun!
@mikeypl1957
@mikeypl1957 4 жыл бұрын
LS is the way to go.
@SkylarkCamperAdventures
@SkylarkCamperAdventures 4 жыл бұрын
You have lots of room 😉 Just look at what Project Binky have done on the mini! Looking forward to this mod 👍🏻
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Well, they have super-powers, no way we can match that! :) But as I said, the height is the real problem for us and will become more obvious later on as things unfold! Thanks for the support!
@jeffreyyeater1780
@jeffreyyeater1780 4 жыл бұрын
Ls is a great choice.
@preonmodel8354
@preonmodel8354 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎
@frankish5314
@frankish5314 2 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying your build. You guys have done great considering this is your first one. Getting door skins right is a nightmare.. I did it on an MG Midget so I know the pain..:). As to an engine I might have gone for a DOHC Dodge Neon with a Jeep 2.5 gearbox. I saw a guy drop one into a Midget and it was blindingly fast. Not sure of the OHC's would fit without a bulge though? The good thing with a modern motor is fuel injection and subsequent fuel economy. I too would have done something different with the motor compared to stock. That LS4 is an interesting choice.
@roddymac1370
@roddymac1370 4 жыл бұрын
The LS looks like a good choice, appears to beat the Rover unit hands down. We need more of them in the UK. The only thing that kept going through my head was "exhaust"! It's hard enough fitting a performance system to the standard 6. Sure you guys will overcome as usual. This project gets better and better!
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roddy! I've been planning this build for two years now, and we're making good progress - it's fun seeing things come together, and we've got a pretty simple solution for the exhaust :) Cheers!
@cheftush
@cheftush 4 жыл бұрын
That’s ok, I’ll still watch 😉 good video on the way forward.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks Chef :) I appreciate it!
@2ToneWalt
@2ToneWalt 4 жыл бұрын
Going on where you live and availability, its a no brainer really. You did surprised me with the weights and dimensions thou. All Rover engine swapped cars normally ended up with a power bulge or scope to house the S U carbs or Holley. I like oddball and regarding the engine swap this is, can't wait to see the finished product.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, really glad you're excited too - can't wait to share more in the coming episodes! :)
@patireland9408
@patireland9408 4 жыл бұрын
Yes - interesting project ..... but a GM engine? Not a Jag V8 (no manual)? Not a Ford alum block (oh, they won't fit). OK, good on you for figuring out a great set of parts choices that are cost effective (at least it's a Ford transmission). Do not forget to sound deaden the tunnel and firewall. Yes! Stiffen up that chassis. Strengthen up that suspension. Looking forward to your build.
@JohnSmith-qj4cf
@JohnSmith-qj4cf 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the build plans for the flywheel and if yes will sell the it
@ernieleithes6545
@ernieleithes6545 4 жыл бұрын
Drove one of these in Uk ,in the snow they are undrivable slightest touch on the throttle and back end swings out guess its a summer car good luck.
@davidparr1262
@davidparr1262 4 жыл бұрын
Stock rear suspension is fairly bad, when it's worn it's dreadful, even the 1300 in the spitfire can spin it out. I'm sure these guys will deal with it
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ernie, no worries there@@davidparr1262 is right - we have a whole new setup going in! Also, we get feet of snow here in Ontario, so it's absolutely never going to be a winter car for us :) we'll stick with our Subarus!
@jayinmi3706
@jayinmi3706 4 жыл бұрын
People hate on LS motors, and (frankly) I expected you guys to put a 5.0L (302ci) Ford engine in it. But all the reasons you gave for choosing an LS are why they're so popular. Oil pans for just about every configuration (front sump, rear sump, dry sump...) are available. There's a user on LS1tech.com who is using an LS4 with a Pontiac G6 6 speed manual (transverse application) in his Fiero. He's also on Fiero.nl, his name is Fieroguru and he has done a lot of mods that might relate to what you have planned. He solved the starter integration issue on it, so might be helpful.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You it the nail on the head - it's a common enough platform that parts are easy to find and many configurations are available... YET... the LS4 is a unique option that is helping keep the cost in check. Yes, I've done a ton of looking around on those sites and have learned a lot! We are going down the route that Scott Costanzo pioneered with his LS4 MGB. On the britishV8 forums ... good reading if you're interested :) Cheers!
@jayinmi3706
@jayinmi3706 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds Not sure if this will help, but this guy (nivlac57) is building an LS4 turbo powered Eagle Talon TSi...he explains how he got the starter situation worked out, and Moroso makes an oil pan to allow for it. It is a transverse application, so I don't know if it would work in the GT6. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGGaq5qbetNsgK8
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
​@@jayinmi3706 Thanks for sharing that link - he's doing a very nice job! I saw the moroso pan on LS4King's video and it's definitely a nice solution. We would have had issues with it though, as our new front suspension requires a cradle that runs under the pan, so moving the sump forward would interfere. We've got a pretty simple solution though, so looking forward to sharing that in a future video! Cheers!
@derherr65
@derherr65 Жыл бұрын
I've always found it funny that some people, usually after hurling insults, will demand you make the car in their preferred image. These same people didn't show up to buy the car, didn't show up to put work into the car, and didn't offer any funds or parts to match their rantings. Their opinion counts exactly as much as their time/effort/funding inputs - 0.00!!!! Ignore them. Your car, your vision.
@mchristr
@mchristr 5 ай бұрын
I was originally an advocate of the Ford small-block because of its compactness (8.2" deck). But I've grown fond of the LS4, perhaps because I've never had to deal with its weirdness.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 5 ай бұрын
Haha, it's certainly weird, but that's my kind of thing! 😅✌️ Can't wait to hear it fire up someday!
@davebarron5939
@davebarron5939 4 жыл бұрын
And on the 8th day God said let there be LS,.......And it was GOOD!
@18robsmith
@18robsmith 4 жыл бұрын
Much though I love the sound of a well set up straight-six the GT6 engine was never well set-up, and was very heavy for its output. Even my neighbour's one with 3x Weber DCOE and a much altered exhaust sounded somewhat asthmatic, and it could barely keep up with my much modified Dolomite with its pair of 48mm DCOE (yes, they were rare and ouch expensive). But the thought of a GT6 with a nice V8 burble, now that's going to be a real eye and ear catcher. I'd not really noticed that engine until now, but it looks to be the ideal one for the job. Al the best for the build - I'll be following with interest.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob! 👍
@robertrishel3685
@robertrishel3685 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you ever considered one of those Buick engines, like the one used in “Old Yeller”? Seems like they are super torquey, inexpensive and appropriate in a weird kind of way.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
The early 215s (or Rover V8) and even Nailhead were options I would have loved to use if it weren't for hood clearance issues in the GT6! The LS plastic intake manifolds are super low-profile when compared to a traditional top-feed style carburetor. Maybe a future project though! Cheers Robert! 👍
@bunkie2100
@bunkie2100 4 жыл бұрын
Despite being somewhat of a purist, I have to say that the LS4 is a good choice. Pushrods keep it compact and aluminum keeps it light. I’m looking forward to seeing what you have in store for the differential. By way of contrast, I’m looking at various engines for the airplane kit I’m building. The Corvair I’m considering has an installed weight of about 225 lbs for up to 120hp (depending on displacement). Getting 300hp from a 310lb engine is a very good deal.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter! Yes it's funny how much of a difference pushrods make to the overall size. It's really the perfect shape for our engine bay! Although not common, I have seen a few planes running water-cooled engines, so could be interesting! I always thought a Subaru EJ257 in a Cessna 152 would be a riot :) ... altitude affects cars and planes alike, so why not a turbo'd one? :)
@bunkie2100
@bunkie2100 4 жыл бұрын
Fanatik Builds - With aircraft engines, simpler is, generally, better. Big cylinders with low RPM power curves and loose tolerances combined with air cooling is a recipe for reliable operation. The Continental 0-200 in the club Cessna 150s I fly fit this description. Redline is under 3000 RPM and you get 100hp at full power out of 200 cubic inches. Subaru engines have a very checkered history as aircraft engines. The head gaskets and ECUs have been responsible for numerous crashes. Auto ECUs are a very bad idea in airplanes. Many have a “limp home” mode (to use just one example) that can get you killed because it prioritzes saving the engine rather than the pilot. In any case, I’m really looking forward to seeing what you have in store. Keep up the good work!
@themoppie1000
@themoppie1000 4 жыл бұрын
It's going to be a very interesting build! I'm very curious about what you do with the rear end, as the whole set up was never designed to handle the 100hp from the straight 6, let along 300hp from a V8 :D I used to have a Triumph Herald based kit car, same chassis and rear end. The frame rails had been unstiched and turned over so they flared out instead of in. That made the whole frame more ridged and allowed room for a Toyota Celica gear box. But it had a fibreglass body on top, been a long time since I looked under a GT6 so no idea if the body would fit over a modified frame. However I was looking at custom building a rear end out of a Subaru rear diff (Fuji Heavy Industries unit, also found in lots of Nissan's) and suspension arms and uprights from an AWD Mazda 323 as it would all fit in the same space and could still use the transverse leaf spring. The only sad part will be losing the sound of that Triumph 6, it's not a big hp engine but has amazing torque and a really lovely smooth engine note.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Interesting that removing the box section and reversing the flares made it stronger - wouldn't have guessed that. Yes the R160-180 looks like a good swap, only the CVs that become a bit fun to figure out... but we've got a whole new solution which should solve all our problems! ;) Yes, we'll miss the sound of the six, but a friend who lives nearby has a GT6+ and a TR6 so we do still get to hear them occasionally! We've never had a V8 so we'll enjoy the sound of that too though 👍 Cheers!
@bobrose7900
@bobrose7900 4 жыл бұрын
The Rover V8 would be the obvious choice in the UK but the LS looks preferable. Just a thought on a V6... they are about and can be really tiny.. Toyota and so on. Great vids.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob - not a ton of longitudinal V6s around here that are within our price range. Transverse V6's can be difficult to work with as the intake and exhaust manifolds are often only suited to a FWD layout... from my research our best/cheapest bet would have been a 4.3 chevy V6 (perhaps a LV3) - but they're actually taller than our LS4 and not much shorter - and it would have been about the same amount of work for less power :) ... thanks for the support and hope you'll enjoy what's to come!
@scottycollins131
@scottycollins131 4 жыл бұрын
What did you use for a flywheel? I’m building a Lotus 7 and this combo would be perfect. AND, those T5 mustang transmissions are dirt cheap.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Don't want to give away everything too much just yet, but!... (tried to past a link but it didn't work) ... do a google search for "britishV8 LS4" ... lots of helpful info on that forum!
@scottycollins131
@scottycollins131 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds Dang son. Okay.
@scottycollins131
@scottycollins131 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds I've thought about rear engine. There is a Saab manual that fits the LS4 bolt pattern. Of course, I already welded a lot of tube. . .
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottycollins131 A rear engined Lotus 7 would be something I've never seen before! That would be very cool but quite hard to do I'd imagine. The 04 Mustang V6 T5 was our choice for size, weight, availability and price as you said, and the 1983-86 Jeep (2.5l AMC to T4-T5) bellhousing made it a bolt on solution. Clutch/flywheel/starter to be explained more in a future episode but in the meanwhile that forum thread I mentioned is what we're going off. Cheers
@scottycollins131
@scottycollins131 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds I found the solution but I won't spill the beans. My solution is different than yours. You are doing a great job! Good luck!
@richardsutton01
@richardsutton01 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that over here in the UK, the Rover V8 would have been the obvious choice. However, the LS, although not necessarily the 4, are getting more common over here as a crate engine for upmarket mods. I've had several Rover V8's in various configuration so I'm looking forward to something different.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard! Yes, and they cost a very dear penny from what I understand! It's funny how it works, another example would be Jeeps vs Defenders - we always want what we don't have and many are willing to pay handsomely to get it :) Looking forward to sharing more soon! Cheers
@jimf5160
@jimf5160 3 жыл бұрын
having raced an mgbgt with a 300+ hp rover v8 (about the same weight as your GT6), you will find the hp quite adequate. We used a G Force built ford T5, with stronger internals. We found that necessary after about 5 race weekends.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome Jim! The mgbgt was going to be our second choice if we couldn't find a GT6, they're lovely cars! Good to know about the G-force built unit, we're not likely to race ours so hopefully it will last a while, but if not, at least there are options. 👍 Hope you'll enjoy the rest of the project, things just get better from here!
@jimf5160
@jimf5160 3 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds Lots of fun! we have 225/15 rear tires ....but getting on them hard out of corners really stresses the gearbox. Oh yes, even with a 4.3 rear end or thereabouts (ford 8 inch), we still topped out at 150mph at 7000rpm. Your suspension is much better than ours (limited by rules) You will find that you need very good brakes. We use 11inch rotors from Coleman rotors and wilwood 4 piston in the front.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimf5160 I was hoping to get 225's for ours as well but the price difference was insane! We went with 205/50/15s as a result. As Jay Leno said though, tires are just a cheap form of clutch so hopefully it will help in a way :) Brakes and suspension have been sorted out in the following videos, cheers!
@jimf5160
@jimf5160 3 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds We used shaved tires...they lasted about 2 or 3 weekends...putting your foot down hard does wear them a bit. I think 205s for the street will be fine; just go easy on the throttle at first. I am surprised there was a great price difference to 225s...I think we were paying about $800/set. Your suspension is much more sophisticated than what we were required to use. That will help tire wear.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimf5160 Will do on the going easy part! :) The main reason for the price difference is I couldn't (and still can't) find many 225/45's available in Ontario, the only decent option right now is the Nitto NT01 which is about $300 more a set! Shipping from the US is another option but the import charges quickly add up. Oh well!
@aaronsingh314
@aaronsingh314 4 жыл бұрын
Did you consider a 6 cylinder swap? Or a 4 cylinder? K24? With turbo maybe? I have nothing against an LS at all just bought a C5Z
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Aaron, we did talk a bit about this at the end of the last video, but we absolutely considered a straight 6 - as you can tell from the list of dimensions here, a BMW 6 was going to be our best option, but still rather tall for the room we have to work with. We didn't want anything less than 6 cylinders as it didn't suit the style we are going for... and we ultimately just liked the idea of a V8 as it's more along the lines of a Cobra (dream car)... but one we can actually afford! Never had a V8 before and can only imagine the torque in such a small car :) cheers!👍
@SixPackDan
@SixPackDan 4 жыл бұрын
S10 2wd van uses the shortest shifter.
@ShadowsOnTheScreen
@ShadowsOnTheScreen Жыл бұрын
Stag v8 would have been sweet. And you would have had 10 new episodes showing how you tried to make it run!
@WanderingDad
@WanderingDad 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the LS hate train. Excellent engine. Of course, I was hoping for a Mercury Marine V8, because crazy, and it's not me figuring it out.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! :)
@davidparr1262
@davidparr1262 4 жыл бұрын
Actually glad you took the sensible option, rover V8 is a disappointing money pit, my range rover is getting an LS3
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds cool! Thanks for the support :)
@stustuO7
@stustuO7 4 жыл бұрын
Some guys use ford (Lima) 2.3L turbos
@StraightLineCycles
@StraightLineCycles 4 жыл бұрын
Engine swaps...best thing since...engine's
@paulwhite7475
@paulwhite7475 4 жыл бұрын
I'll just tell myself that you could have gone electric then I would have unsubscribed . The 1UZ would have been interesting since it is basically the only affordable modern V8 option in SA
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, no worries there - we have no desire for an electric classic car! Yes it was an option I would have liked to pursue, but we really don't have the extra height necessary without pushing the engine a lot further back into the car. More to come and will be clearer then! Cheers.
@mikewinfrey8183
@mikewinfrey8183 4 жыл бұрын
Check out westcoastfiero.com, they have a couple of flywheel options for the ls4 that may work. Totally down with the build considering a similar route with my 68 mark1
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, we've got a solution to the flywheel but we appreciate the tip! Best of luck with your project and hope you'll enjoy what's to come here 👍
@mikewinfrey8183
@mikewinfrey8183 4 жыл бұрын
Also check out fieroguruperformance.com, he made a very cool adapter for the ls4 starter that might be an inspiration for the t5 red application
@sandpiper1515
@sandpiper1515 4 жыл бұрын
dang I was hoping for a 1UZ, this still going to be cool though.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
I would have liked one too, but they're just too tall to make work sadly - it'll be more obvious in later episodes! Thanks for the support regardless though!
@DavidPlass
@DavidPlass 4 жыл бұрын
More wrenching, less talking!
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry - lol! Had to take the time to explain some backstory before we crack on with more fabrication!
@DavidPlass
@DavidPlass 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds You don't need to justify anything! It's your car. Just wrench and we'll watch
@gunner1558
@gunner1558 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, great series of videos. I am following with interest and will be particularly interested to see how you squeeze a T5 between the frame rails and what plans you have for the diff. Your approach and problem solving are awesome. I have done a Gt6 Rover V8 build and the car continues to run great after seven years. Some build details are attached. There is a youtube link to the running car in the sidways -technologies link. sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/7329-gt6-rover-v8/ Gunner1
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually because of your car that we wanted to swap a V8 into ours! Great work on it, you did a lovely job and we hope ours will turn out as nicely! The next episode should answer those questions - stay tuned! 👍
@jasonking8812
@jasonking8812 4 жыл бұрын
Ls much better option from someone who lives in the UK the rover v8 is dogshit expensive to get power out of it plagued with issues that they never got right
@jayinmi3706
@jayinmi3706 4 жыл бұрын
NOBODY trusts Lucas. lol
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
True! :)
@16v15
@16v15 4 жыл бұрын
The first car I ever owned was a '67 GT6. You've spent a fair a mount of time redoing the shell. Could have done something interesting with a restomod. Please put it out of it's misery - roll it out of the shop and let the rust reclaim it.
@0richbike
@0richbike 4 жыл бұрын
do your own then. if i had the time and cash id stick a tesla drive train in one and a hyabusa in another
@SB-vb8ch
@SB-vb8ch 4 жыл бұрын
My suspicion is you're well under on the weight you have for the LS4....nearer 500lbs dressed. The Rover (Buick) has a lot less "meat" to it all over & you have that way over the weight of the LS which isn't correct.
@mchristr
@mchristr 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. I found several websites that list the LS4 as 478 lbs. dressed. The Ford 302 listing with aluminum heads (460 lbs.) is also way off. The later 5.0 iron roller blocks are only 136 lbs according to my scale.
@edkonstantellis9094
@edkonstantellis9094 3 жыл бұрын
You went from restoration to modification? Ugh.... OK, your restoration will need structural modifications to the chassis, suspension(s), transmission, rear end .... Well wishes
@lewisshipway7187
@lewisshipway7187 4 жыл бұрын
dont care its a LS and now its still just a a boring swap
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, not just a swap... about the only part we're keeping is the bodyshell! :) More to come.
@andrewnelson8093
@andrewnelson8093 4 жыл бұрын
sorry mate but you are destroying a bit of motor heritage. you talk about e types and the history of the gt6 and why people love them just to pull the heart out of it.
@FanatikBuilds
@FanatikBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
One *could* say the same thing about Project Binky or any other Restomod too - but you won't hear that from me. Plenty of "properly" restored GT6s out there, and we're just having fun making ours unique. Cheers.
@andrewnelson8093
@andrewnelson8093 4 жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBuilds I would say that. And there are not as many as you would think. Even more so I the uk. Cool have fun but as you just pointed out what your doi g is old hat, done to death and no offense, boarding. I'm in the middle of a mk 2 rebuild. Doing lots to up date the car and putting ideas that have been kicking around since the gt6 was first built, into action. A restoration with modifications to improve the car but keeping the fast disappearing heritage of triumph intact. There is a ton you can do to a gt6 and keep the engine and still get improved power and handling. As a triumph lover and KZbin viewer it's my opinion that you should do something unique, not just another engine swap. I will share my ideas with you in private in the hope you have a better KZbin channel, a more interesting build and a car that hasn't been butchered and had its appreciating valve erased.
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