Things Just Got SERIOUS!? | Veilguard | New Trailer/Gameplay Impressions

[@minstora]

I know theres a LOT of buzz going on right now regarding recent news about how: in Veilguard, almost none of our choices from previous games will carry over, like they did in Keep, save for 3 choices only specifically from Inquisition. I might be making a separate video for that as well to give my thoughts on it, I'm, unsure as I feel like I don't have too much to say on it, that other KZbinrs haven't, other than: I really don't like the decision, I find the reasons for the decision not convincing enough, and that just as plenty of stuff we saw about this game has upped my hype for Veilguard, this bit of news has lessened my hype. The decision surrounding freeing the mages or not I can see being extremely relevant to Tevinter and N. Thedas as surely droves of Apostates who fleed the south would be returning home during these 10 years and it has to have had been a big event in Tevinter. Even if not that, like not at least including the choices that impact Morrigan baffles me like, did she romance your Warden, who drank from the Well, and stuff regarding Keiran. 6-10 choices would have been the sweet spot for me and 3 feels like entirely too little. I still am excited for the game, and want to judge it on it's own as it can of course still turn out to be a great game, but I undoubtedly think it would be a better game if at least a FEW more choices we've made throughout the past 3 games were added to our custom worldstate here in Veilguard. But let me know if you'd like me to make a full video on it anyways and maybe I can come up with some more talking points! Also, sorry I made quite a few speech errors in this video, I was up until like 4AM recording this so I was kinda tired, my bad lol

[@proteuswest1084]

Here are my thoughts on that issue, which I've seen discussed extensively over the past 2 days. 1) Dragon Age has never carried forward many decisions, and when they did, it was largely cameos. DA 2 was pretty disconnected except for a few cameos, and the variations you see in Inquisition are largely based on 2 decisions from Origins (Landsmeet and Morrigan) with some easily missed references sprinkled here and there. I like how people keep thinking that Dragon Age is like Mass Effect in this regard, but it really hasn't been, and even Mass Effect still follows a set narrative structure in every game that isn't truly affected by your major choices in previous games. 2) If you want to make consequential decisions within a BioWare game that may differ from fellow players, there has to be an understanding that from a game design perspective, you can't account for the majority of those decisions in future games, and a lot of them will be written around or not referenced. This is because as much as we all want perfect reactivity and tons of referencing in future games, BioWare still has to consider continuity, and they've said repeatedly that they'd rather not address those variations than create a situation where they contradict our choices. Also, you have a severe butterfly effect going on if you bring forward too much or create too much variation (like ME 2), and then you have to do awkward quantum characters just to make your story work like they did in ME 3 (or Inquisition, for that matter). 3) We don't know what other levers they have available. In older decision tree games, before importing and online tapestries, a lot of world state type questions were handled in dialogue. An NPC could reference an event and say, "Do you know about...?" and "What did you hear...?", at which point you could select an option that establishes prior decisions. There's no way to know if they'll do that, but since they've designed the game to be fully offline, maybe they'll use old offline tricks like that instead of doing a huge survey at the start of the game in the character creator that will spoil big parts of the plot. I think this is definitely a wait and see situation, and I understand the disappointment people are feeling, but I think this is the first time BioWare has really been forthcoming about this type of thing, and it feels like people think the game somehow is going to feel different than other Dragon Age titles when this is really much more the norm for this franchise than people are realizing.

[@MrApoorvaSingh753]

I hated that change too its such a downer I think they meant to focus more on current world situations than South of Thedas all choice revolve around Solas and Trespasser decisions so no past talk ?

[@beccangavin]

To be honest, I think we just didn’t make that many important decisions in Inquisition. I haven’t seen any videos about what choices we do make to set our world state but I imagine the only ones that mattered were who is the new Divine, did we exile the Gray Wardens and who did we romance. Possibly who is on the throne in Orlais if we happen to go to Orlais. If we don’t, it will matter as much as the Dwarven king mattered in Inquisition. They were really careful in Inquisition to set a standardized stage for the next game by having minimally impactful decisions. In my opinion.

[@minstora]

I get what you're saying, and I understand the developmental hell that is making a game like Inquisition that has so many callbacks and worldstate variations depending on choices from the previous 2 games. I just don't necessarily buy the whole "oh we wanted no cameos or one liners thing" as yeah maybe from a dev perspective they didn't wanna do that for their reasons, but it wasn't for lack of us as the fans of loving them, like those small things felt truly special to us. I'd be okay with ignoring some of the small stuff tho completely like I said there's just a few more choices that I feel are relevant who's omission really puzzles me. Like you said we will just have to wait and see how it's been handled and I agree that this is the first time BioWare has been so forward with... A lot of stuff surrounding their game actually. Like maybe they took a page outta Larians book and wanted to communicate more regarding the game? My only issue with wanting to kinda start over is that this story is a direct continuation of the one in Inquisition so using a game with that plot at the center as kinda your start fresh point, seems to clash for me. I know we ain't getting it for another 20 years but they could have waited until DA5 to do that 🤣

[@minstora]

I agree 100% that's why like I personally am cool with not having several decisions carry over. I just think 3 is too few. Imo I think freeing the mages, I'll also add exiling the wardens like you said, and anything surrounding Morrigan/Keiran shouldve been considered. Like if I had 6 choices I wouldn't really complain lol

[@ashe8299]

ghila'nain is possibly the coolest villain in the history of this franchise, I'm floored at how creepy and cool her design is. I'm so excited

[@RandomWandrer]

I am absolutely romancing Ghilanain

[@linitie4898]

@@RandomWandrer if we can romancing her 😍

[@minstora]

Y'all have no chill 🤣

[@XxW4RB0RNxX]

Iam bummed about the choices from previous games not mattering so much but im still on the hype train because i think we are gonna get more answers to whats been going on in the over arching story archs.

[@minstora]

I'm still hyped for the story too. I'm hoping they manage to pull it all off

[@xXFalseFlyerXx]

Honestly, this is one of the most measured reviews of what weve seen. Some highlights, some drawbacks, but no freakout over "EVERYTHING'S WOKE NOW!" Just a look at what the game is offering and taking it at face value. Really appreciate that!

[@MrApoorvaSingh753]

This scene really gives dark element of Origin remember when we going up the tower only to face an Ogre ? Scary! 😮 I think its for reason 😂 otherwise Rogue would've been a skip option its a class thing.

[@minstora]

Boooooo gimme more toys. Rogue will be okay 🤣 But fine I understand everyone should have their own stuff 😭

[@karlmarshall4482]

Great video man! Looking forward to future ones in so excited for this game and to dive into this world for the first time!

[@minashepard1255]

I watched this trailer when it was released and it was indeed dark. I got chills literally when Ghila'nain made her entrance. I'm so excited for the game and the different classes to play just look epic.

[@ImpGoose]

Lovely video! It was a great pleasure to follow your analysis :)

[@RandomWandrer]

New sub from me. What a great video. I would say, about getting something awesome at every level up, dont forget you can move your skill points around anytime for free! So that 1 extra skill point, combined with moving other points around, could allow you to attain something that was previously just out of reach.

[@minstora]

Ah true true! I understand though like I mentioned in the video. Wanting something crazy every level when there's 50 is a bit much lol. So I'm not too bummed about it. Just make spellblade cool and fun as hell and I'll consider me and BioWare even 😤

[@banjomir519]

I love this trailer so much! Gives me the Sacred Ashes CGI trailer vibes. Oh, hang on.....what's that I hear? Is that the CC demo I hear approaching...?

[@minstora]

I NEED it 😫

[@danycaherring750]

You literally put into words what I felt about Ghil's appearance, the scene seems off like they edited it! Also DONT APOLOGIZE FOR LONG VIDEOS I eat these up at work and you always give good feedback and seem very genuine!!

[@minstora]

I appreciate you as always. Sometimes I worry about if I'm yapping too much but I'll try to get outta my own head haha 😂

[@danycaherring750]

@@minstora Please please please do! I will tell you if you're yapping, deal? LOL

[@n7kiingfreshii599]

Great video! Im so ready for it. Also on the customization, we get free respecs so technically we get free reign on the whole class tree. We could be Slayer Warrior one fight then respec n be a Reaper the next. Sooo many combo opportunities!

[@PEWPlays]

The fact that they showed No UI in combat. We could actually turn off UI in combat? Yess!

[@Animelover0981]

There need to be a bit more blood in my opinion, look at the dead body he has no blood on him and around him, look like he sleeping on the job.

[@sofajockeyUK]

Cut for the trailer I expect. We know the blood is there, screenshots exist.

[@Animelover0981]

@@sofajockeyUK I don’t understand why they would need to cut it out of the trailer when it’s an M-rated game.

[@sofajockeyUK]

@@Animelover0981 The state of play was not M rated.

[@Animelover0981]

@@sofajockeyUK The whole game is M-rated. Please watch the very start of the video and see what it shows before they play the trailer.

[@minstora]

I suspect it's for the same reason they cut Ghilan'nain ripping the dude apart. In previous videos they've shown off executions and there was plenty of blood there. I think the actual game won't be lacking in that department, they just aren't showing it in trailers entirely for... Reasons? Idk lol we will see though.

[@tmastroni]

I'm not thrilled about the only 3 choices thing, but then again, this is Rook's story, not the Inquisitors'. I think they might have been better served to go with an intro along the Mass Effect line ala the comic book backstory. That would have at least brought newer players up to speed while incorporating more choices. Even so, I'm still looking forward to the game. I am concerned I won't get a good conclusion for Solavellan. If my PTO was not set up for other things, I'd be tempted to take that Thursday and Friday off for a long weekend of gameplay. As it is, I won't be getting much done over the weekend, other than the absolute basics.

[@sofajockeyUK]

The move to Tevinter leaves previous decisions to the Inquisition epilogue. Those things happened but why would the new cast and new protagonist discuss them. So I get it. Solas and Trespasser and the Inquisitor do carry over.

[@minstora]

I really wanted a conclusion to our wardens story. Even a simple line or two, just based on what choices we made with them. Like I don't even need to see them 😅 Here's hoping maybe updates, or DLC will add more choices or content referencing the past. But I definitely understand your worries and I'm not thrilled about it either.

[@minstora]

Some of it I could see having an impact on Tevinter tho. Not a lot don't get me wrong, but if the mages were set free than I can see that mattering, and then ofc the stuff surrounding Morrigan. I do think some people are blowing it outta proportion like that they want a full on suite of choices to import as it's been many years since the last game in the setting and yeah just like you said not all of it would affect northern Thedas. But just a few more and I'd have been a happy camper 🤣

[@Dexyu]

Yea its dark, they only carried over 3 choices from inquisition and scraped the rest. Even when they brought morrigan again

[@HyouVizer]

2:27 coulda sworn they showed that Taash cutscene taking out her dual wield weapons for a sec during Release Date trailer back in August. Loved Absolution miniseries, severely underrated cartoon. Fun characters, epic fightscenes, bloody fucked up story and villain 🤘

[@minstora]

Yeah like I was aware of her dual axes for a while now I believe, my bad if this video implied that it was my first time seeing em lol. I just wanted to fawn over em here and we had some more weapon options in general... like I really wanna use Bellara's bow for myself as a mage and I'm hoping someone can get that working with a mod lol

[@HyouVizer]

@minstora maybe artifact bow will be available from Veil Jumper vendor, dunno if so be Rogue bow or mage rook able to use it. I agree with Spellblade ultimate, tho cool, shoulda been melee based electric attack.