Things Okay in Japan but Illegal Around the World

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[@ufailedhaha]

Off topic but I can’t wait to visit Japan any advice to where to look at to plan where all the explore in Japan for a first time visitor

[@ropro9817]

Wow, Paolo, that video blew my mind multiple times! And I'm Japanese! 😅

[@lupeyoscar10]

Pon la traducción al español

[@japanonmyscreen]

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[@japanonmyscreen]

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[@sassan7278]

The defamation law is for me, a Japanese person, what I can't stand with really. Why should a victim suffer whilst the perpetrator has done a sin.

[@FM-cu3eu]

In Japan🇯🇵, there is a law that says that a person is not guilty of sexual intercourse with a saint if he or she is 13 years old and sexually consensual. 13 years old is the age when a person has just graduated from elementary school. Also, a law was passed this month that allows high school students to perform in adult films. The number of sex crimes against children is increasing every year. It is a country of pedophilia and Lolita complexes. What do you all think of this country?😉

[@simbast9726]

Age on consent 👴

[@sylviarohge4204]

The Defamation Act is also likely to have a massive impact on media coverage, making it almost impossible to report crimes or other "misdeeds". On the other hand, this creates a false "feeling" of security, since apparently nothing bad is happening. Companies and politicians only change their "course" when enough people are against their actions. Without the possibility of reporting, however, the general public (the population) lacks the information to persuade those responsible to correct course or abdicate. Basically a good way to keep a group dumb and docile, unfortunately.

[@Ilebuda]

I don't know about all European countries, it works similarly in some European countries. In one Nordic country, an owner of petrol station was fined by the court for publishing a picture of a man stealing from the petrol station. Obviously the thief also got fined for the theft but publishing the picture was considered insulting the thief's right for the privacy.

[@ohrats731]

@@Ilebuda huh. I feel like there would be a lot of small business owners in trouble in America if people sued over cases like that lol. Now I’m surprised they don’t. I’ve seen some petty tit for tat situations publicly calling people out. I don’t know if I blame them entirely but it is technically taking justice into your own hands I guess

[@MKleyr]

I found shocking when I learned that if one parent in Japan just disappears with the child/children, this is not considered kidnapping and the other parent has no rights regarding police aid in finding the withheld child or claiming joint custody. There was a father protesting against this during the olympic games to raise awareness as he was looking for his kidnapped daughter...

[@PeckPP]

In case of Domestic harassment, mother take children and run away to Japan from other countries. Japanese mother met man and the man dose not work well or stoped been nice to partner and DV happen, Japanese woman run away to Japan with children for defense reason. Cultural difference is big reason. Common reason is man and woman relationship is culturally different in Japan and other countries. Some woman like to be house wife to support children and husband’s life like old days. But some men in different culture prefer wife should be fair for house work and outside work, or opposite way stay home like mother in law and husband’s slave. Japanese wife will Hi, work very hard to adjust own self to different culture but in some case she give up to respect other culture, and evacuate to own family in Japan. This is very common case, I support these kind of Japanese mother, Japanese government have to protect these cases. But media dose not inform well about these common issue. For sure, it is case by case. I just explain my general idea for the topic.

[@imaboisir7227]

@@PeckPP sure but in some other cases where thats not the case the law is not very good, also (i don't have any idea about Japanese law/custom) but couldn't they leave and then go to the police or some court to try and get divorced instead of just running away?

[@greywolf7577]

@@PeckPP Commonly, Japanese mothers will run away with their children just because they dislike the man. He never abused her, but she refuses to let him see his children. It is cruel to let the mothers take away the children when the father hasn't done anything wrong. The Japanese government will refuse to help the father at all because he isn't Japanese. It's a horrible practice that has harmed many fathers and children. Mothers shouldn't be allowed to take children from their father without providing the father custody rights of the children as well.

[@michaeljohnson6002]

Just goes to show that u need to no your partner well

[@PeckPP]

@@greywolf7577 Greywolf, your idea is very typical selfish judgement to different culture. You need learn different culture fist. You should not force your sense to others. I am living in western society over 20 years as Japanese mother with western husband. I often feel many people around me is very assertive. Different mind. I get tired for explaing for myself just simple everyday tasks like shopping. I feel like fight all time with others. Some people are so selfish, never think others. “Respect” . people need sense of respect.

[@hermannlagrange803]

I'm sorry to say this, but regarding the defamation law: That's how companies like Konami is allowed to get away with some of the worst, trashiest behavior. Because no one is willing to call them out on it. It breeds an extremely toxic corporate environment, where the truth is never allowed to be revealed, in fear of defamation.

[@wisherfox]

Yeah the defamation law is bullshit tbh

[@i.d.9754]

On that note, screw Konami for existing the way it is right now. They do next to no effort in their games and have horrible behaviors. MGS does not deserve to be treated like that, nor do any of their other games Oh crap now i'm gonna get sued

[@Deathmaster2100]

That's why u do it from another country haha

[@sizlax]

And you somehow think it's any better in the west? In capitalist societies, money talks. It's disgusting what corporations, and governments get away with in these societies, especially considering the modern level of awareness.

[@mchrysogelos7623]

@@sizlax RELAX Karen! NO ONE said it is better in the West!!!! chill. it is better and it is worse, it all depends on what you are talking about and what you are used to (know what to expect!). Most corporatism runs amok - just like governments - when left unchecked. That is why we must be watchful and fight it at the inception - when it is a seedling, not a might oak. Sadly, too many of us were asleep at the wheel, and those who did speak out were ignored like a sluggish mosquito.

[@tinderbox218]

Thanks for not bleeping or converting to codewords the adult-oriented words in this video. I really appreciate it because I feel like YT pressure has been changing the English language to become less concise. In fact you get my subscription for it.

[@veramae4098]

Like what?

[@lukeboulter8735]

@@veramae4098 like people saying "unalived" instead of "killed"

[@nathanthomas9455]

I'm going to borrow this comment and I totally agree. Very well put and I too am going to subscribe.

[@justachilldude4356]

The most agregious example I've ever seen was a reddit video that said "Snatched" instead of "Raped", I spent like half the video confused

[@KarenTski]

Yes, they like euphemisms for terrible crimes

[@angelsis2222]

The defamation law really opened my eyes to Japan... everyone says how safe Japan is, but is it really? Shit prob goes down every other day but people dont speak up about it in fear of getting sued. Makes you think perhaps the country has a shitload of issues and crimes and no one has said anything.

[@opinanlosjovenesrd3477]

It needs to be changed but no obliterated.

[@Currawong]

Not probably.

[@user-gx9xf2zb6o]

It's safer than your country, so feel free to come and visit.

[@spykkielee7627]

Suddenly the anime trope of a guy rescuing a girl from a molester in a packed train and why she wasn't saying anything or trying to stop it makes a lot of sense and it's very very sad.

[@hoarauthomas1006]

@@user-gx9xf2zb6o most countries are really safe but you feel insecure because you always hear about every bad thing that happens. It as been proven by scientists that people watching TV in Western countries over estimate the risk of an agression by x5 to x7. When the real risk statically speaking is quite near of Japan risk. So yeah Maybe the guy got a point here. I will add that many things in Japan that could lead to penal pursue are consider like personal problems and are not registered by police officers, where in countries like France everytimes something happened they make a law. Like : " hum this guy got hurt because he walked out of the train and hit by a bicycle hum let's make a law to ban bicycle out of train stations and talk about it on the news" , then makes a documentary about the danger of bicycle, and a talk show where politicians debate about bicycle, then one of them will says some racist shit about bicycle and migrants, and then you'll get a law to control bicycle users in difficult neighborhoods and everyones will start to get a history with violent bicycle or bicycle gang. . . Where at the start of it was just two people doesn't looking to where they were going.

[@marthacichon5950]

The Defamation law seems to leave a lot of space for not making evil people accountable for the immoral actions …

[@michealforguson5317]

Makes sense why in Persona 5, one of Joker's many crimes is "Defamation". But that's a law that basically prevents people from speaking out against real criminals.

[@saintsone7877]

Yes and no. When homosexuality was illegal in western countries many years ago would you agree outing such a person publicly was making an evil person accountable for their immoral actions? Yes, it is not a nice thing that a boss has an affair with their secretary but are we really qualified to pass judgement and make the bosses affair public knowledge? As long as someones behaviour does not have an adverse effect on my life what they do in their private lives is none of my business or anyone elses. I am not, nor should I be, the watchdog of someone elses morals.

[@abcminime]

Japan has one of the lowest crime rate. The west has laws for everything but yet the highest crime rate

[@FirstNameLastName-xe4mx]

@@abcminime it aint crime if its legal . Right ?

[@kingReddy101]

@@saintsone7877 Wow so you're comparing defamation laws in Japan to homosexuality in Western civilization?

[@HeartsofPearl]

OK hear me out: Rape is rape whether the victim is conscious or unconscious. And the fact that the law not only protected the rapist but also rewarded him with money is disgusting 'cause those ppl never had honor to begin with, so what the law are trying to protect exacly?

[@lmaoeverywhere6524]

A possible damage its country image. We know now why japan is one of the safest country Hahaha Even it is disgusting, you can't protest there or do something about it, we are just outsider and we could just feel bad about it.

[@poulwinther]

So in fact you could make a pretty good living as a professional rapist....

[@cheatermaster100]

Their culture likely consider defamation as a more psychological harmful attack. Just because one know that stranger was a rapist/attacker, doesn't make it right that one can just slap him in public. [This is an example sued case in Singapore, not Japan. We don't tolerate violence/certain defamation/racism remarks in Singapore.] Japan seemed to be even more sensitive to defamation/one's honor. If the attacker is released, then the law has alr given him a chance to rehab, and will not welcome any harmful actions on him as it'll escalate worse problems.

[@gjk540]

@@cheatermaster100 A rapist has no honor. Rape is a violent attack that harms the victim both mentally and physically, sometimes for life. A serial rapist should be behind bars. Like pedophiles and serial killers, serial rapists are not capable of rehabilitation.

[@cheatermaster100]

@@gjk540 the honor didnt mattered, it is still defamation.

[@Solitario9475]

Very important thing is that the age of consent is now 16 in Japan since June 16 2023.

[@mham1330]

Age of consent in the United States 🇺🇸 is 18 yrs. of age.

[@adeadkid]

Baby steps lmao

[@Sol_Creations06]

@@mham1330actually its 16yrs old in the majority of states

[@rorschach6525]

Japan will still have a high number of paedophiles though. Explains why they love making hentai about schoolgirls.

[@Coplanersirtax9]

it's been 18 in most of the big prefectures like tokyo for a while. It was only very low in like some uninhabited islands and such

[@NGMonocrom]

Honestly, anyone who commits an "Adult" act on someone who is passed out, clearly unable to and obviously didn't give consent.... has no honor! It is not just disgusting, but downright obscene that the individual who violated that person was rewarded with a cash award. Thanks for pointing out how utterly worthless Japan's civil court system happens to be.

[@SeedsAndStuff]

I agree

[@SeedsAndStuff]

There are adults that play with the concept of consent tho providing littler to no protections for false allegations

[@stephenwalker6980]

Japan is a shame based society, it's their culture, they view honor very seriously, to dishonor a person is to dishonor his entire family, it's viewed very seriously and most are probably ok with these laws. As a westerner, it's hard to get their reasoning, but we do crap here that make them shake their heads also.

[@IIxIxIv]

Fwiw, Japanese feminists and activists have been trying to fight against such laws and rulings for a while now

[@manwithstds7503]

L simp

[@_imhere906]

I remember someone told me that her boss sexually harassed her but instead of the boss getting fired, she was transferred to another branch. And that boss still kept doing it until one new employee pursued it and instead of firing the boss, he was just transferred to a different department. Really messed up

[@一片叶的故事]

Hierarchy is very important in the Japanese work culture, it's something treated very normal in Japan that a lot of people in the west wouldn't understand. Human rights is kind of an issue in Japan, especially for women.

[@StamfordBridge]

So disturbing. As is the rape case cited in the video in which the rapist was rewarded.

[@fatcat1250]

Let me guess, Ubisoft? Oh wait, wrong continent.

[@WerewolfGuyyy]

Isn't that just the catholic church 😂

[@LanternOfLiberty]

I could tell you stories about a few people in the chain of command of uniformed public organizations who have been arrested for assault and drunk and disorderly behavior, only for those accusations to magically disappear. Human nature is what it is, I guess...

[@dougcrawford6967]

I'm an American living in Thailand. The defamation laws here are very similar to those you described. You can even be sued if, for example, you write a critical review of a hotel or restaurant that is posted online. The business can claim that the writer of the criticism has damaged their reputation. It's a very effective way of shutting-down any sort of criticism of pretty much anyone.

[@RaspberryMalina190817]

Can confirm - defamation laws in Thailand are no joke. Someone wrote a criticism of a company on a Thai blog that my dad used to run. The company took it to court and appealed after they lost the first time, and due to the fact that my parents couldn't show up in person (we live in the UK), we were banned from entering the country for about six years

[@Number6_]

Certainly explains why it is the rape capital of the world.

[@HyperIndian]

@@Number6_ Except rape occurs in literally EVERY country. Some big media company putting "rape capital" is incredibly biased.

[@Jeremo-FD]

@@Number6_ I didn't know Thailand was in Mississippi

[@iolohammer]

damn.. not very democratic for a democracy

[@andrewduncan4908]

Truth as a defence to defamation is fairly new in Australia. I recall an architect in Canberra who sued because the newspaper said his building leaked. He won the case and when I went to work in that building ten years later there were still buckets collected the leaking water coming through the roof.

[@Merdaccielord]

@@andrewduncan4908 shut up western stupid people..... LOL

[@zinzolin14]

Defamation laws are seriously holding Japan back, and undoubtly one of the contributing factors to an unhealthy living standard in Japanese society. It discourages people to never speak up about things that are wrong and keep offenders from accepting criticism and never change for the better. I hope this law will change in the coming years, giving Japan some more freedom and safety from abuse.

[@kingol4801]

This law has a good premise at heart, but is not exercised well enough. Keeping private life private is utmost important. However, many exceptions must be drawn (companies, harm to other people etc). It shouldn’t be “one or another” - most of the legislations have so many moral grey areas that all of these things should be considered on case by case basis.

[@lemontea128]

@@kingol4801 it’s all about face. Japan worries too much about having face. In countries without that law, you can still sue for defamation, but that’s if false information of an individual or company was spread and damage was done.

[@marcusgraham3257]

Meanwhile in the US or UK a Karen will trash your restaurant to hell and put the lowest review she can on the internet because her tea is made with microwaved water

[@davepfeifer8558]

Japanese law system is concerning not for restricting free right in constitution. BUT which is much restricted by the ordinances and many fine laws actually. This video is intentionally misinforming

[@PerciusLive]

The living standard is a product of its culture and not the law. They overwork themselves because culturally, no one wants to be the weak link, and in a self perpetuating cycle of no one being the first one to call it quits, it ends up with no one calling it quits and standing up against the poor work culture. This then passes down from one generation to the next on what to do in the workplace, and combined with the nonconfrontational culture, nothing gets changed for the better and power figures grow to abuse thier positions.

[@zpvnrt]

1:00 Age of Consent 1:37 Marrying 1st Cousin 2:35 Defamation (3:15, 4:03, 4:22: even if statements are true!) 5:59 Food (items not legal in many other parts of the world) 7:10 Cigarettes > You're welcome

[@kunalnaroliya6358]

thanks alot

[@mark-ish]

@@kunalnaroliya6358 *a lot

[@davel9514]

@@mark-ish thnx

[@mark-ish]

@@davel9514 you're most welcome my friend.

[@theophrastusbombastus1359]

When he says "illegal in other parts of the world" he means 'Murica

[@julianna8275]

Timestamp: 1:00 Age of Consent 1:37 Marrying Cousins 2:36 Defamation 6:01 Food 7:11 Cigarettes

[@AdmiralSnowy]

No one asked but here's my opinion: *Age of consent:* While it's bad on paper, as explained in the video I think it's really a non-issue, because in most prefectures the age of consent is above 16. There's probably like 1 or 2 cases were the federal age of consent is used. There's no harm in increasing it, but in reality it does next to nothing. *Marrying cousins:* eh, idk it's weird but I don't think it should be illegal, no reason to really change it, just let people love who they love I guess? I mean it can cause health issues with any potential offspring, but first cousins are the least likely for that to happen. *Defamation:* I actually think this is good, remembering that defamation is a tort/civil law and not criminal, I've seen some misinformation in the comment section trying to argue that people can be arrested for defaming a big business / company, that's just wrong. Leaving a bad review for a business will not put you at risk of being sued either, because the courts would have a system in place to weed out criticism from actual defamation. It protects individuals and businesses, the cases stated in the video prove this. In the west, defamation only applies if what the defendant is said false, that can lead to situations where someone has ruined someone else's life or business by stating a secret to the public. Imagine if someone outted a major secret of yours which could cause you to lose your job and/or have your honour humiliated. Well in the west you'd just have to suck it up. In Japan you can actually do something about it. *food:* There's a big movement in the west for less animal cruelty, movements such as veganism and even green politics in general. They are constantly causing cultural rifts as far as I can tell, Japan's culture (and others, like china) have been eating delicate seafood/animals since the dawn of the country, yet these activists just want them to stop? Call me a traditionalist, but it's not as easy as banning dolphin hunting and whaling etc, many traditional ceremonies may include eating one of those foods, many families make all their income off of whaling or hunting dolphins, to ban those practise will harm human beings, currently relying on those trades and IMHO human lives and their well being always top an animal's. I can see the reasonings, such as the endangered status of some dolphins and whales. *Cigarettes:* Yeah they're bad. Banning them is fine, I don't smoke myself, but I would say that as-long as a business can allow people to smoke outside or have a dedicated smoking area, it's all good.

[@raidensama1511]

Thanks for the time stamps. This guy likes to run his mouth with nonsense before getting to the point.

[@japanonmyscreen]

@@AdmiralSnowy Either you have great typing skills, or you really have a lot of time on your hands! Either way, great job!

[@seventhlight8536]

@@AdmiralSnowy Damn you're so good and I agree 100% with you! I've never seen a comment like this. It's like you're putting the positive and negative impact towards each topic.

[@ryuu4257]

@@AdmiralSnowy I respect that

[@manonxg]

You forgot to mention that a divorced parent can literally kidnap its own child from the other parent.

[@ScooterinAB]

It's not kidnapping because the male parent has no rights. /s

[@UltimateAHP]

Dude that defamation law is so disgusting. It literally gives the incentive that you could get away with almost anything and no one can snitch on you for it.

[@lisa_moonless317]

protecting the rich basically. Companies can do all kind of crazy shit thats not against the law. like abusing workers, and workers cant do shit about it becouse they cant win a lawsuit and cant find justice online. No wonder Japan has one of the biggest suicide rates.

[@wiktoriachciuk7870]

exactly and you can literally get rewarded for the crime you commited, like in this rape example in video… disgusting

[@diegobarcella1245]

Its not defamation if you say it to the cops, it is if you say it to the “general public” meaning social media/tv/radio/blogs

[@bambooflute2589]

Well the cops are most likely on the rich persons side, so even then you’re done if the cops are corrupt and cannot find justice by posting it in public. Dangerous law still

[@BankruptGreek]

@@bambooflute2589 if the cops are corrupt then that's on the cops, the law in it of itself is good. There shouldn't be a separate public opinion court handing out social punishments to criminals. Stop being blood hungry, most people including you sound so medieval to me. If the cops don't do their job that's the cops fault, it's not on the public to hand any punishments in addition to judicial punishments, people are irrational, emotional, easily manipulated, inconsistent depending on social circles and unfair amongst cases depending on algorithm favoring some cases and not others.

[@Sheng01427]

In relation to the defamation law, they also would somewhat "protect" the abusive husband if you report his abuses to the police even with evidences. Yes, as the victim, they would protect you by giving you and your child a shelter, some allowance, help you to find work, BUT they will give you restrictions for the places you're allowed to wander. You cannot go to prefectures near the location of your husband, and yes, the husband is still allowed to go to work, not acquitted, as to not disrupt with how society functions. They deem the husband as essential to the workforce. Others might have had a different experience regarding domestic violence in Japan, so feel free to share yours. But this is based on a real-life experience.

[@FM-cu3eu]

In Japan🇯🇵, there is a law that says that a person is not guilty of sexual intercourse with a saint if he or she is 13 years old and sexually consensual. 13 years old is the age when a person has just graduated from elementary school. Also, a law was passed this month that allows high school students to perform in adult films. The number of sex crimes against children is increasing every year. It is a country of pedophilia and Lolita complexes. What do you all think of this country?😉

[@Currywurst-zo8oo]

I think as long as there hasnt been a court judgement this is the better way of handling it. There are so many cases where someones life has been ruined over a wrong accusation of abuse.

[@snowmoon7385]

Yup..true

[@Christopher.Harvey333]

@@Currywurst-zo8oo 100% agree!!!

[@ohrats731]

@@Currywurst-zo8oo so many cases? Real abuse is way more common than falsely reported abuse. Why should the husband’s career and way of life always be protected while the wife and kids are relocated in Japan? That’s one life being held in higher regard than 2 or more lives

[@darrellbryant1018]

Imagine a person's honor being more important than the truth even though, the truth proves they have no honor.

[@BlackEgypt]

What about the age you consent?

[@justayoutuber1906]

This is why Putin hates it

[@goat1596]

@@kamuimorita-albright8570 I mean there is freedom of speech but that's probably never gonna be allowed in Japan

[@Ms.Guardian]

FACTS

[@Ms.Guardian]

@@BlackEgypt If you mean the age of consent sure by law its legal (i think?) But if youre way older and youre Poking a 13 year old?!!! Then that also shows you have no honor. Thats a child youre after.

[@StevenLillford-Wildman-my8jt]

I am from the UK. And although technically true, in practice virtually all of those things, in my opinion, happen over here too. The food box reminds me of a company over here that supplies all cooking ingredients in a box by deluvery!

[@DevotedDisciple-x]

That defamation law is ridiculous! How do you ever know if you're dealing with a reputable company or not?

[@r0bw00d]

Assume that none of them are.

[@skinnie2838]

5:08 What is with this dumbas smile on his face? He just got done telling us that the Japanese population is mind controlled because they are speech controlled and he is smiling as if this is somehow just a minor thing? Ho lee.

[@TheRibbonRed]

That law is one of the big reasons why "black company" is still an active term among workers.

[@BlackEgypt]

Yea cool. But what is the age of consent?

[@fernicusmaximus9282]

@@BlackEgypt What about it? Most people reach puberty by age 11.

[@Jamie-Z]

The defamation meaning is true to most of South East Asia. I was shocked whilst living in Thailand that a farm in Lanna was reported as using slave labour in the international media and the US reporter was arrested for defamation. The fact that the farm was using slave labour was not relevant to the case, only that the article damaged the business.

[@philippillis9393]

Defamation works like that in many countries and only if the information is newsworthy you're protected to some extent.

[@subhasreepanda3916]

@@philippillis9393 am from india and preparing to study law in college. hearing this while knowing all the cases of defamation and how it works, it's shocking to me that many countries actually have this type of defamation law.

[@philippillis9393]

@@subhasreepanda3916 I know, it worked against me years ago I was sued for defamation because of a Google review. It's crazy and shuts down people's voice. Fact is it's a gray area and it really depends on the trial and how the judge interprets the law (unless there's common law as in UK and us) so many people, once they are sued, don't want to risk to go trial because it's very expensive and agree to a plea bargain and this silences our voices even for trivial stuff like Google reviews.

[@Sakuta3220]

​​@@subhasreepanda3916hey I'm Indian too and also studying law! This is very surprising indeed. I honestly find it pretty weird

[@alanthomson1227]

In feudal countries the laws were historically designed to protect property and not the individual . To protect the rich obviously .

[@gingataff]

Regarding defamation. I know of someone who had a bad experience with a doctor, left a negative review on Google and was then successfully sued by the doctor. Even though it was true.

[@tedwojtasik8781]

Well, he deserved it. Everyone knows you don't use you real info on Google Reviews or any review site

[@danielkerr4100]

@@tedwojtasik8781why? I leave reviews on google all the time and people I know do too as google is amazing and it helps others, stop being so negative

[@Jesus-t9w5d]

@@danielkerr4100 He didn't mean you shouldn't leave reviews. He meant don't use an account with information so people know who you are.

[@SINC0MENTARI0S]

@@tedwojtasik8781 You not only are totally missing the point, but also ignore that using a pseudonym in online reviews is futile. The author's identity can be found out anyway during the Japanese procedural equivalent of "discovery".

[@tedwojtasik8781]

@@SINC0MENTARI0S First, I was being sarcastic. Very unfortunate certain people are too dense to comprehend that. Second, the authors identity could NOT be found if the author was using a VPN. No way to track an IP address when using a VPN. Happy day and Jesus love you 🙂

[@spiele_maus]

Actually marrying your cousin is also legal here in Germany and was very common in the past. But nowadays it happens very rarely and isn’t really well accepted in society. And one thing to note is that practically all prefectures in Japan set age of consent to at least 16 years or higher, meaning that the national age of 13 is completely irrelevant.

[@seikibrian8641]

The national AOC in Japan was raised to 16 a year ago. This video is out of date.

[@blue-uv4mh]

Wir haben ja offiziell auch ein Mindestalter von 14, auch wenn das nur gilt wenn die andere Person ebenfalls über 14 ist und kein Altersunterschied von über 5 Jahren besteht 😅 Ab 18 fällt die 5 Jahre Regelung für die Partnerwahl dann weg, ist aber trotzdem gesetzlich ziemlich locker…

[@regissudo]

After spend some time in Japan and even visit some courthouses and watch some trials due to work it seems to me that the justice system in Japan was never designed with "justice" in mind. Their goal seems to have the objective of eliminate social disruption, not to satisfy individual sense of justice. Laws like the defamation law, at least for me, seems to make sense when seem through that light.

[@SINC0MENTARI0S]

Protecting a wrongdoer is the opposite of eliminating the social disruption. Silence enables criminals to continue their wrongdoing because innocent people are kept unaware of serious risks to which they are exposed. That awareness is a cornerstone of public policy.

[@kingol4801]

@@SINC0MENTARI0S Yes. If crime proceeds in a way naturally it does, disrupting it is the very definition of unnatural. Ethics are relative, and Japan seems to adhere to the less righteous perspective.

[@trevoro.9731]

@@SINC0MENTARI0S Protecting the wrongdoer is a direct partnership in crime with the wrongdoer in case of "real" crimes. A perfect example is scammers protected by police from physical violence and detaining them only for a few days or "warning" in certain countries. In such cases the police is the actual perpetrator or, objectively speaking, a legalized criminal group using "workforce" of those lower scammer.

[@TheRiiiederner]

its a thing in whole EU , cant remember someone else than politics actually using it

[@zekiz774]

@@SINC0MENTARI0Sit’s not when no one speaks about it. That’s the problem

[@sirflimflam]

The defamation one blows my mind. Seems wild to me you could have a company completely pull one over on you and then sue you when you tried to warn the public about it, and win.

[@AcridWhistle]

@Akira " has been conducted solely for the benefit of the public" Allow me to use an American / English colloquial saying. That is a loophole big enough to drive a truck through. Also easy enough by a company that can afford a ton of well paid lawyers to use against someone that can't. Also a bit of "the process is the punishment"

[@Sir1ri]

@Akira public interest is hard to grasp. One famous incident about match fixing in the sumo world case (as a national pride event)(its not considered as sports) Even with proof the the magzine/news company who brought this to light was sued heavily cause the sumo organisation did thier own "investigation"

[@Floridamangaming729]

@Akira man i ain't even gonna try to make sense of this.

[@Eleniel13]

@Akira well as a member of the public I would like to know if I am dealing with a rapist or not.

[@AdmiralSnowy]

@Akira That should be obvious, we just have a bunch of progressive know it all's that think "omg big business AHHHHHH" and don't do any research. Of course the courts will have a system to weed out criticism and actual defamation.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Can anyone add any insight on how the defamation law affects journalism in Japan?

[@Shmanish]

Ohh that’s true like how do they get stories for the news and stuff🤔🤔🤔

[@AveragePicker]

This just in: Icky inc. has just honorably leaked toxic gas over most of Tokyo but thus in no way reflects badly on this great company. Or I guess you go the generic route: Breaking News, someone or some company just did something which may or may not be good and/or bad and may or may not have backed up traffic somewhere.

[@noodlelicious]

Sorry but this channel don't dig that deep. Maybe someone will reply your comment later.

[@GeekOfAllness]

@@AveragePicker Given the video, those wouldn't necessarily work. Your second comment falls straight into the "based on the description, we know exactly who and what you're talking about" that the video says isn't good enough. The first one would depend on how they treat obvious lies. Anyone with two brain cells can see "the honorable company very politely got a bunch of people killed" is a euphemism, so a court could conceivably rule either way.

[@luke_fabis]

Well, if it’s at least clearly stated in the public interest, it should be legally sound to publish. But I am not a lawyer, much less one who understands Japanese law.

[@taokumura]

In Japan, when the samurai ruled, those who reached the age of 12 to 15 were considered to be adults and were allowed to marry (called gembuku). After the introduction of Western culture, the age of adulthood was raised.

[@cmdrdredd]

I wonder if it had to do with the fact that at that age most young people go through puberty and girls are able to bare children. Most people of any rank or status would want to continue their lineage and marrying a young girl would give them a longer time to try to have a son. Also many marriages were arranged from what I understand and often beautiful young girls were married off to wealthy families or a lord (or one of his sons) which was beneficial to her family when they were offered land or a larger stipend in exchange.

[@VampyBlood17]

Imagine being awarded by a court when your the one who had an affair or raped someone. Man Japan really needs to fix these laws. At the very least the defamation law. So many of these laws seemed baked into the homogeneous and collectivist culture of Japan.

[@neilnelmar8007]

You need to fix your brain,having an affair is not a crime and an accusation doesnot equate to guilt

[@dustincarden177]

Homogeneity is the reason Japan is still a great Nation

[@ryanryan4223]

it is

[@peterc4082]

It's the Japanese way. Let them have their ways.

[@theravedaddy]

Im in an asian country where a 'person' selling an illegal car tried to sue the potential buyer when they questioned the fake documents for the vehicle. The case stated that the buyer 'insulted' the car. That really happened.

[@Johnhasa1]

Bruh

[@jadedandbitter]

He needs to countersue that the fake documents insulted him and his intelligence.

[@theravedaddy]

@@jadedandbitter i didnt fill in all the details to protect me too but.... nah, we arnt 1 of them so we couldnt possibly win, even if it was brand x with brand y papers.

[@Zebra-ke1rn]

Damn this is shocking

[@hominmundus]

Which country?

[@eccentric3687]

Can’t imagine how many people experience injustices in Japan because of those laws 😩

[@chloeeng6811]

i kinda can

[@idrinkyourmilkshake1882]

These may be laws, but I'm sure it's a case by case situation with a lot of these situations.

[@otohime8516]

Japanese cops try everything to hide especially if youre a foreginer, they chose to protect a japanese rap1st than a foreginer victim (i'm not trying to generalize)

[@sunnyjim1355]

It's not an 'injustice' when one wasn't savey enough not to get oneself into such a situation in the first place. Live and learn, get wiser.

[@iamwooth1729]

@@sunnyjim1355 I guess children getting molested by their parents, women getting date raped, workers being exploited by their employers just aren't "savvy enough". You're disgusting.

[@Erik-le3fn]

I appreciate your videos and thank you for a look into the Japanese culture.

[@williamlloyd3769]

When serving in Japan in late 1980s, cigarette smoking was still popular. Coming from California where they had banned smoking in restaurants earlier it was hard to go back into that smoke filled environment. Glad to see that it is being slowly phased out.

[@dominickjustave3558]

Bs

[@AcridWhistle]

Yeah, went there 3 years ago and was a bit shocked at everyone smoking and even in restaurants. Forgot that was even a thing that people used to do.

[@TimCBuilders]

Smoking was banned in bars in CA somewhere around '92-93' BTW

[@gogolkj]

IIRC, some cigarettes companies in Japan are partly government-owned, and they used to send cigarettes as care packages to senior homes and hospices. I wonder if it is still the case…

[@leesasuki]

same here in Malaysia, unless you willing to spend money and go to some more expensive restaurant, eating in average restaurant is base on pure luck that you won't have some fker to decide to smoke beside you, or the air flow won't direct the 2nd hand smoke toward you and no luck when living in apartment too, the air flow design here is so bad that I can smell it some people smoke in 1st floor... I just want some fresh air please...

[@annoyedbyyourface]

Whenever I read about "offbeat" laws from *any* country, I always wonder who created those laws and what group(s) was originally meant to benefit from said laws. It puts a lot of things into perspective...

[@theemmjay5130]

Well, I'm assuming the defamation one stems from the concept of "loss of face," which I understand is a big deal to the Japanese.

[@acidbabe573]

Well, guess Japan is 1 point less than North Korea in terms of bizzare laws.

[@koftespiess]

@@acidbabe573 Have you seen Europe? We have some of the most ridiculous laws but I guess they're more ridiculous than bizarre.

[@silverwings8486]

Law is created by bunch of hypocrites to legally extort money 🤑💰 while playing good guys since you got pay lawyer & the same as politician who use 90% of tax for self benefit & the remaining to 9% to over emphasize the 1% that they truely pit to good use. In otherwords it better if world war happen & the system collapse for good 🤣

[@everythingonyourmind2454]

The defamation most likely benefit the rich and corporation

[@generalesdeath8157]

Oh damn the defamation law, now it makes so much sense why Japanese KZbinrs never dish out any critique of the products or food they're trying out, it's all "great" and "mmmm tasty" and no ratings or reviews haha

[@workout3D]

What about critique of the government? Does the defamation law work in these cases?

[@SunnyDSovereign]

Yooooo another fellow esdeath fan!!!!

[@jakekuznetsov8870]

@@Anonymous-mk1ch Who decides what is the benefit and what is not? Whose benefit? Which public? Hehe

[@Frandelicious1337]

@@Anonymous-mk1ch And who run those courts? What interests are at play here?

[@juliagoetia]

@@Anonymous-mk1ch Courts are not objective institutions of justice impervious to corruption. Quite the opposite a lot of the time.

[@AINEET]

That bokksu thing seems pretty damn cool tbh, first time I see a sponsor who suits a channel that well

[@chainsawkas7545]

Defamation laws are prevalent in Korea as well, but most of the people do not take it seriously, especially on the internet

[@Equilibrium2903]

Utterly disgusting laws, used mostly to protect illegal/cruel/dishonarable behaviour. Why they exist in so many asian countries is just mindboggling.

[@amberwhittemore8733]

Unless they're idols. Idol companies often sue people who post negative comments online. I've found most people here in S. Korea usually just use the defamation laws to threaten others without real follow-through.

[@Bruh-lq7ev]

@@amberwhittemore8733 I never liked idol culture, but until I read this I always thought it was mostly the fans fault

[@skelebore5165]

The age of consent in Japan is 13 amongst similarly aged minors. The wider the gap in ages the more severe the punishment. The Japanese age of consent is frequently misrepresented.

[@sumperdeph]

Yeah it's the same in greenland the age of consent is 14, but only if you both are similarly aged

[@hemelenou1935]

Age 13 is just the age of consent by a country level in Japan and it's 17-19 depending on each prefecture, so don't worry. Besides there is another law that severely punish anyone who mess up with under 18 that's why japan don't even bother to change the national law.

[@Sungura_Kaiser]

At least someone here knows the truth.

[@wich1]

Also the national age of consent is 13, but there are many regional laws that bring that age up and/or stipulate additional conditions

[@ShesBats]

That's good to know, because my gawd, I was legit struck nauseous for weeks by that

[@itslindalee]

So sad the Defamation one to me sounds like ppl abusing others and victims not being able to acuse them, sueing them or even calling out because of the fear of getting sued for an absurd amount of money.... This leaves the victims totally unprotected.

[@denniszenanywhere]

I probably misunderstood the defamation one. I thought it was the other way around. that people would more cordial, less confrontational n and that people won't abuse other people as much, which is why people in Japan are more polite and kind to each other. Which means you cannot just curse anyone in real life or in social media. I am sure the courts will study every defamation case and require evidence that you harassed someone. Imagine a woman or man who committed adultery and instead of being crucified by public opinion or social media, the courts will watch to see who is adding insult to injury. I got this wrong perhaps and think its defamation laws protect the victim, whether it was warranted or not. Isn't the law supposed to judge us, not people, not social media, not anyone we don't know? Edit: I think I know now why some people think defamation may be wrong if the victim gets back at the abuser then the abuser can protect himself, is that what you mean? Question is, how would the abuser protect himself with this defamation law? But then again, wouldn't the victim just decide to take the abuser to court instead of defaming him, thus using the law to get back at his abuser?

[@kingmeruem1]

@@denniszenanywhere you're right it didn't pop in my mind, that its better to go to court than to defame the abuser.

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

I'm wondering how does that defamation "rules" affect actual legal court cases in Japan's judicial system? Can prosecutors still make accusations against the defendants and NOT have it be considered "defamation"? For example, the prosecution lawyer says "I am accusing the suspect of stealing from my client... evidences such as ____ support this claim" Would that not count as "defamation" or could the defendant (suspect) on trial file a counter suit for defamation of accusation of stealing (even if there was evidence of the truth of the statement)?

[@adrher13]

@@_Just_Another_Guy In japan you are guilty until proven innocent, so I'm pretty sure it's not defamation, because you are indeed guilty of that crime until you miracously prove that you didn't

[@vaguedreams]

Absurd? One of the examples was 800 dollars. I think it really just depends.

[@FirstBornLeader]

There’s no way , I would be able to talk to a girl that had sex with my boss or family member or friend under any circumstances ever again . That’s just disrespectful at the highest degree. I wouldn’t be able to talk to either one of those ppl ever again.

[@Fenrisson]

In Brazil, difamation is pretty similar. You can't call someone a "thief" even if you caught the person IN THE ACT. You can say that "this person stole something", but you can't apply the adjectiv to the person.

[@thelastdankbender4353]

Thief is no an adjective.

[@amaedron_]

@@thelastdankbender4353he meant that it is an adjective in portuguese

[@TuesdayK970]

I like this actually. By not identifying people by their crime, you give them an opportunity to change

[@IHateNumbersOnNames]

@@amaedron_ it isnt.

[@kennethferland5579]

An astute distinction, to call someone a theif is to say it is their nature to steal and that they do so without remorse or deserving of it, it has always been considered a personal insult of the highest order. In contrast few people would consider the character of Jean Valjean from to be a theif for stealing a loaf of bread to feed his family.

[@Joenah5]

The definition of quasi-rape is literally just rape. Is that treated less harshly than the kind of rape that falls outside that definition?

[@delalune4]

look up the Shiori Ito story

[@justayoutuber1906]

its like date rape. Which is less violent than full on, rape when you're resisting.

[@kellyb6198]

@@justayoutuber1906 as someone who was raped by two men while unconscious I cant even begin to tell you how wrong you are. If a rapist wants to hurt their victim/s then they're going to do that whether they're fighting back or unconscious. In my case specifically I had significant bruising all along my neck, my chest and my inner thighs. Which, lucky for me, was visible for almost 3 weeks because it was so bad. Not to mention the pain I felt vaginally. Just because someone is unconscious while being raped does not mean the rapist is going to be more careful or "easier" on the victim. Rapists want to feel powerful and one of the ways to do that, besides the obvious, is to physically hurt their victim in addition to the rape, and they do that because they can and there's nothing the victim can do about it be they conscious or unconscious.

[@goat1596]

@@kellyb6198 interesting

[@goat1596]

@@kellyb6198 my other comment got deleted from KZbin probably because I was saying the word and so KZbin deleted it, as I was trying to say I couldn't find much information about it the thing that you said didn't exist in which I think only exist in Japan probably or I could be wrong

[@krissisk4163]

The defamation thing is kinda the "too far the other direction" from America's defamation laws. In theory you can sue for defamation in America if someone is lying about you. In practice it's really hard to actually win that lawsuit. And if it's a politician lying about you then you might as well forget about it.

[@honkhonk8009]

Yup. Liberty and human rights honestly mean different things in other countries tho. Europeans think that free speech doesn't apply to insults. If you insult someone, then the gov has no constitutional restriction from making that insult legal. Some British kid on the news was being racist, and got fucking imprisoned for it. While the kid deserved all that backlash, imprisonment over a fucking tweet makes you no better than Putin or China

[@screwbigtechsanti-sciencem9438]

@@honkhonk8009 The most "tolerant" and "inclusive" people in the world today want to cancel every single human being who disagrees with them in any way shape or form. We live in upside-down clown world. Criminals and pedophiles are telling us what is legal and moral.

[@DjJokerr]

Nick Sandmann won bunch of money from Liberal lying media, still more lawsuits are coming.

[@BlackEgypt]

Defamation is too far. But the age you consent isn't? Are you serious?

[@leadpaintchips9461]

TBF our system is pretty busted even if the 'proper' laws were in place because of how biased the system is. Going to court is costly for most people and requires a lot of commitment and dedication to follow through with it. It's cheaper in both time and resources for average people to not follow through, while wealthy organizations/individuals have a much easier time since they already have people who do this on the regular, and the price is a much smaller percentage of their wealth (while also being cheaper to just get someone you're already paying for, to do it).

[@randallreed9048]

In the 1980s, I made a handful of trips to Japan. I was always struck with the odd situation of being able to buy whiskey from vending machines on many street corners. I wonder if that is still the case?

[@SuperCG07]

1:05 ....suddenly so much anime makes sense for me. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@MarcusSanatan]

Won't lie, the transition from "quasi-rape" to bokksu was a bit weird

[@csvega]

Very

[@yukli3795]

Yeah the upbeat music and happy tone was also not wel fitting at all..

[@stormwatcheagle5448]

Yeah...that wasn't it, chief. While important to discuss, I don't think this channel is the right venue to discuss such a grave issue. It seemed dismissed compared to other topics presented.

[@worldkat1393]

Someone rapes you. You prove this in court. You then tell the world they raped you. They then sue your ass for defamation being a woman in Japan must really suck.

[@lola-to9om]

@@yukli3795 maybe the guy is noob or just weird

[@DSBMAC13]

7:40 we have those in germany, too. still operating a lot, especially in bars or rural areas. you also need to put your ID in or pay by card, to validate the age. and we have kinda strict smoking rules nowadays, but those things survived :D

[@carloko08]

interest thing you say, as happen in almost the whole world, there are a lot of restrictions about smoke and cigarretes but NOTHING ABOUT THE ALCOHOL, and the alcohol KILL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN CAR ACCIDENTS, CRIMES ETC, but nobody crash a car againt other car or againt somebody when smoke, or nobody kill another guy cos smoke, no crimes are comited when people smoke, so this is very rare, lot of restrictions againt smoke but NOTHING AGAINT ALCOHOL that make big tragedies around the world, if this was a matter of money is rare too cos cigarretes move lot of millions too, but i think alcohol is more useful over people, we all know that the control of the govs over people is a priority for them, and the cigarrete is better for the concentration in humans but the alcohol make people crazy, so for a gov is better that people be adicted to alcohol instead to cigarretes, well, rare thing all this ;)

[@pbyfr]

I saw them also in some places in Switzerland. I don't remember ever seeing one in France.

[@Soozely666]

yeah and its kinda normal here to smoke while walking around the city. i'm a smoker and sometime i feel bad when im smoking while walking to my trainstation and there are kids or even mothers with babies i have to pass. in that case i mostly hold the cigarette and dont smoke while walking past them and waiting aboud 10-20 meters to smoke again xd

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

@@Soozely666 That's simply good manners sir. When a smoker I was somewhat ashamed to have to instill into my younger friends those few little things that you mentioned above. Common courtesy, simply thinking of others ~ like walking on the kerb-side of the pavement when in company with others, be they female or less mobile than is oneself. Now that you've given it some airtime, here's hoping that great swathes of smokers and equally numerous hordes of men take up t'other one.

[@smievil]

in sweden it's pretty common to buy a recipe for a vending machine-like thing when buying tobacco products or maybe some other adult stuff.

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

The smoking thing, though I was somewhat aware of it being more culturally acceptable to do in restaurants and the like in Japan, it's still a somewhat surprising thing that it's tolerated so much in the country, given their preference for avoiding strong body scents (a la cologne and perfumes) because they might bother people and just a general stronger than average focus on cleanliness. Cigarette smoke definitely is pungent and not at all clean, clearly.

[@emergentform1188]

My understanding (from an Asian coworker) is that many or all Asian people get totally high off their assess for hours from a cig. He tells me that's the case with him and all his Asian buddies. So I wonder if tobacco will always be a much bigger issue in Asian countries for this reason. People going through life perpetually high may have a harder time stopping, and kids are more likely to start smoking since they are getting super high from it for hours. I don't smoke myself but recently I went for a walk during lunch and I saw him sitting on a bench finishing a cig, and he was clearly stoned out of his mind lol. Meanwhile, I'm told that for white people, a regular smoker gets very little if any buzz from tobacco, and what they do get is very mild and only lasts a min or whatever, and they are totally sober again before they even finish their smoke, and even these people have a hell of a time quitting because the withdrawal symptoms are so uncomfortable. I'd imagine withdrawal is much worse for the Asians that get super high from it but I have no idea really. Anyway, thought someone might find that interesting.

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

@@emergentform1188 That's wild. I wonder if there have been studies done on the effects of tobacco relative to ethnicity?

[@dianamoraes8988]

I think there is another “law” that’s very important. Parents CAN kidnap their children (for example in divorce cases) and the law seems to pretty much always protect the kidnapper. I’m not sure how it works, I’ve seen a documentary about it a long time ago. Hope it’s changed in the meantime.

[@AdmiralSnowy]

I doubt it lol, probably if the child consents and the person in question is their parent.

[@zariaeda007]

I know what you mean. I have seen news stories about that too. Basically if parents are going through a divorce, one parent can take the child and doesn't have to give visitation to the other.

[@sneezing_panda]

So... This is kinda a broad generalization on the topic but it is /basically/ because if the parents are married/not divorced/have custody of(both parents) it isn't kidnapping because they can both take the child anywhere because well.. they both have custody. Doesn't mean they can't get in trouble, but thats the reason and it makes sense.

[@yo2trader539]

Why would parents taking their children be called kidnapping?

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

@@yo2trader539 If it's against the child's will (despite them being only a child to a parent) then it's kidnapping. Even if the parent(s) have legal rights to custody of the child. This happens even in America where one parent takes their kid from their ex-spouse's home when he/she's (temporarily) away like at work.

[@takkun169]

Here is a question about the whole defamation situation. If one were to tell the public about a company knowingly selling a product that is actively dangerous... say like an electric car where the battery has a high chance of melting down. If it is true, does that company actually have the "honor" that they could sue for defamation over? It certainly feels like they shouldn't.

[@ttaskoify]

Legal because its a public interest

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Are you a former or current (pun!) owner of a Chevy Bolt?

[@fffwe3876]

@@MonkeyJedi99 hyundai KIA

[@bunsenn5064]

@@MonkeyJedi99 I’m the owner of a BMW Civic M Sport

[@blinder5250]

I don't have an answer for you, but if it were me, I wouldn't try to sue a company.

[@usamamalik420]

Defamation law is the one I'm most concerned about. Like, you get sued for exposing a freaking crime.

[@usamamalik420]

@Bộ trưởng Bộ Ăn chơi though it's different here. I think he was talking about how even if you're a proven criminal, you'll still get sued if you expose their crime. But then again this law came into being to protect past criminals who have received their punishment and are now a part of working society. Who knows. Only a Japanese lawyer can elaborate on this.

[@Arkhs]

@Bộ trưởng Bộ Ăn chơi despite that it is still a backwards law.

[@WeirdGlow]

See the right thing to do would be to file a case in court and not to shame someone publicly. It is perfectly legal to report the crime to the police or to file a case in court.

[@usamamalik420]

@@WeirdGlow if we get further details, it can clear a lot. Like, whether they were punished for their crime even though they won the defamation case. 4M Yen ain't that much if the criminal serves for 10 years.

[@qwert291]

It's about publicly spreading this information though. You very much can (and have to) report the crime to the authorities. You just can't legally spread the information via broadcast/internet.

[@小笠原慶人]

Note that if the statements were true and for the interest of public, that is NOT defamation in Japan. So people will never be accused for pointing out fact things about companies because it is considered in line with the public interest. Consumers, shareholders etc generally need to know the facts. On the other hand, for example, even if you found the private person who changed their gender, you cannot disclose that to other irrelevant people. Such statements may refer to the fact, but it wouldn’t be justified because the remarks are not for the interest of public.

[@tpbleu]

Defamation Law is also pretty common in Thailand. Although the criterias are different, I'll not get into the detail since it's too long to explain but I'd say it's not exactly fairly judge in many cases, and yes, it takes away the freedom of speech and many people are facing injustice because of such laws.

[@MTMF.london]

Yeah, the "lese majeste" law is liberally used to imprison citizens who criticize the King or the government or anything a person says that is considered negative by the authorities. Many authoritarian governments use it too - China, Turkey, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Syria .....

[@Neon-Lines]

feels like the "defamation law" was specifically designed to protect criminals

[@jhpjhun]

Korea has the same exact law. I can only see it as protecting the rich and powerful

[@tpbleu]

@@MTMF.london Although my comment wasn't talking about the 'lese majeste' law, I agree that it was also used in the similar ways, however, the difference between defamation law and lese majeste law is the rights to litigation. In the recent years those who're alleged with lese majeste law are (unlawfully) considered criminal offender and immediately put in jail even before being convicted, and most cases takes months or years to defense their cases from behind bars...

[@MTMF.london]

@@tpbleu True. But in many authoritarian countries, the defamation law is used exactly like the 'lese majeste' law. The accused persons usually don't get to defend themselves - they are imprisoned first without trial on trumped-up charges. If they are given a trial at all, the defence lawyers are usually appointed by the state and none of the judiciary are independent. It's a foregone conclusion that the accused will be found guilty of the charges.

[@lainiwakura1776]

The whale meat issue has to do with the fact that some whale species they hunt are endangered and considered protected animals. It's like how people are against shark fin soup for the fact that the sharks have their fins cut off and are left to die and suffocate in the water while also being endangered as well.

[@Osmone_Everony]

Finally I see someone else addressing this issue. I've already thought I'm the only one.

[@_.mxggxn._]

Completely agree. The issue isn’t with the eating of, it’s how the meat is obtained. And you also have the issue of live dolphin/whale captures. I know in Taiji, they make more from selling a live dolphin than a dead one.

[@amarbinay6654]

Majority of the consumers r the Japanese oldies

[@_.mxggxn._]

@@amarbinay6654 I always assumed that was the case but wouldn’t want to make any assumptions. I definitely think it’s becoming less common. There’s a team protesting the last hunts who are Japanese nationals, so there is clearly a resistance happening, even if it is grassroots currently.

[@amarbinay6654]

@@_.mxggxn._ maybe but can't trust fully on Japanese system as they're just like other Asian countries can make anything legal by making them legal in indirect way or underground way cuz supplier r readily available. Even weed is available in JAPAN in underground

[@sakurazakisetsusuzuhime1223]

For defamation there is a similar law in France. And it is used very often mainly in political news disclosed either by press or by an opponenent. For the legal age of consent I have checked now it is 15 ...since 2021. There was a scandal a few years ago so I think that'why it has been stated.

[@peterc4082]

What scandal? Japan only recently banned child porn possession. It's only a scandal for Westerners but Japan always had low age of consent. I think until WW2 they had kamuro child prostitution. In Europe we didn't have such a term as "kamuro" but Japan had.

[@Candyy248]

16*

[@retsuza]

The defamation thing is crazy, I thought the entire point of defamation is that the harm done to your reputation is based on false pretences lol

[@mr.wescottx7129]

For real in 🇺🇲 but🇯🇵 thinks different.

[@tenga3tango]

It shows how screwed up the legal system is.

[@petouser]

It kinda makes sense IMO. Who someone had sexual intercouse with, should be private. Also, victims of sexual attacks should be protected, and it has to be their own choice if it should get public. What I didn't understand from this video is if the offenders are protected by the law. Cuz that would make no sense.

[@HelloOnepiece]

@@petouser Probably to prevent mob mentality and witch hunt. Reading online comments, I feel it is justified to a degree

[@version_dew]

@@HelloOnepiece true, we can say that its ok if its facts but if its not (false accusation or something) the persons life is over, its probably why its in the gray area.

[@ohrats731]

Oof “quasi-rape?” That’s 100% rape. And the fact that the perpetrator was allowed to stay anonymous AND was awarded $36,000…. That’s beyond infuriating

[@churblefurbles]

Its a legal distinction, the sentence is still the same.

[@frostyflameff4003]

@@churblefurbles imagine if the person that was quasi-raped reported it with massive ammounts of trauma and got fined thousands? thats what would happen im the situation. the defamation law goes stupidly far

[@Zoco101]

@@frostyflameff4003 Do you know this for sure, or are you theorising from afar?

[@johnsean1352]

Well , think if that man wa innocent..His named would have been destroyed for no reason .. Media should wait till the court gives the final decision

[@hlaw2830]

@@frostyflameff4003 It's interesting how "he won't remember it" justifies genital mutilation, but somehow women can experience massive amounts of trauma without remembering anything.

[@Schmidt54]

The defamation law is really weird in what is actually protects.

[@alanfbrookes9771]

How can anyone reform their lives if people are allowed to tell about what they did years before? You can destroy someone's life by disclosing things that they have done in the past but would not do now.

[@mfs96]

it's not that hard to understand, do it privately, like report to police if being abused or you have evidence of someone doing a crime, not share the problems in social media. the law only works if you purposely share it to public. i think people forgot that twitter or other social media is not law enforcer

[@XxMadermanxX]

@@mfs96 still shitty, stating something that is true shouldn't be punishable

[@simonesurana]

@@alanfbrookes9771 a person who commits a crime needs jail time, we cant have pedos and rapists wandering free. if they didnt want their future to be ruined then they should have thought about their actions first

[@sharongillesp]

QUESTION: How can a “fact” be untrue? By the fact existing, makes it true. By being a “made-up fact,” immediately makes it false, untrue. If a statement is untrue, it doesn’t exist, making it a “false (unexisting) accusation.”

Defamation laws sound like they could very easily be used as a form of surpressing free speech

[@whatareyoudoingyouidiot342]

Very much so.

[@IamPINKIEDaniels]

not could be, is

[@jedespinola]

defamation law is a law that should put in every countries judicial system except you are country without a judicial system because allegations should discussed in the court othewise just don't a judicial system at all

[@jedespinola]

now a days the media companies are the once who are suppressing free speech

[@hayleyhays5999]

Free speech doesn't exist anymore. If you say something political incorrect, probably your comment will be sh4d0vvbanning.

[@sabrekai8706]

The one on defamation blows my mind, I imagine their politicians just love it. Politicians around the world would be giggling like maniacs it it were that way here.

[@seanbraley2772]

Not really if they brake the law charges can be brought and a reporter can report for the reason they leave office

[@amaranusa]

​@user-ss4bw1em1wsame to most Asian countries

[@rawmakers]

Politicians in America are giggling like maniacs because no matter how much they get exposed they still end up with a career in politics.

[@alecubudulecu]

the age of consent thing... the key you mentioned - prefectures have age as 16-18. the reason that matters is ... unlike most of the western world... in Japan... prefecture law is king and supercedes federal law. Federal law only applies if a prefecture "forgot" to cover a law. and no prefecture forgot to cover this one. it's essentially 16-18 everywhere you go.

[@astorlefflinker8417]

This is what I'm saying. Nothing against this youtuber, but he’s clearly not a lawyer, so there’s a lot of nuances in Japan’s legal system that he probably doesn't know. Laws are often complicated, and its often not enough to do a simple reading of the law and be like “oh so this is okay and this is not” because there are overriding laws, laws that supersede the law, or court decisions that affects the law. E.g in my country the age of consent used to be 12 and now its 16. But even when it was 12, it didn't mean that adults could do it with under 18 as long as they consent, because there's a law on child abuse that says adults cant do it with people under 18 even if its consensual. I bet there's also something similar in Japan and some foreigners who watched this video would go to Japan thinking that it’ll be great to pick up some 17yos when in reality its not and its a great way to land in jail or get extorted. That's why the most basic thing that they teach in law schools is that 'the devil is in the details'.

[@alecubudulecu]

@@astorlefflinker8417 yeah nuances matter. Japan is very unique. A lot of japanese “law” can be broken down into what society enforces vs what’s written on paper (and they are often different). Japan’s legal system was forced British/USA constitution law after WW2. They adopted it to appease the west. But they don’t actually care about it. I lived in japan for 10 years and worked in financial sector as well as a small prefecture in logistics. (My town had 5,000 people). One of the craziest things I saw was in 2001 … in Tokyo - magic mushrooms were openly sold in retail stores. It was illegal. But stores had them on display right in front of police in public along with advertisements.

[@alecubudulecu]

Also another interesting law. Divorce. Japan always sides with whom is japanese. Normally they side with male. But if husband is foreigner - rights go to wife. The main reason? Because under japanese traditional divorce …. When a woman marries - she loses her family tree. Meaning officially her side of family ceases to exist. So if a foreigner leaves the country and divorce - that woman is now essentially a homeless invalid. So they had to account for this. Also. Divorce can be denied. When you file for divorce. You have to do it in your town sector. And they have a public listing and community has a “vote”. It’s an absentee vote and no one actually cares … but theoretically the community could deny your divorce. All that has to happen is for one person to show up and say “no”

[@hyouki8529]

@@astorlefflinker8417 you can legally pick up 17yos in almost every country in the world just fyi.

[@astorlefflinker8417]

@@hyouki8529 Goodluck with that. My only advice is that, if you or anyone is going to do it. Don't do a simple reading of the law like what this youtuber did. Because in many cases, like I said, there are overriding laws, city ordinances, laws that supersedes the law, even court decisions determines the jurisprudence. Like in my example, the age of consent in my country is 16. But you can still go to jail for doing it with a 17yo consensually because of the child abuse law. That's 12 years in prison (reclusion temporal).

[@sharknadofartquake2449]

THIRTEEN?! Dang those men are lucky!! Not only that but they have SOAPLANDS?! You can get head at one?! THOSE MEN ARE LUCKY!! I hate that in California we are NOT as lucky!!

[@kelligould9150]

A law that specifically protects an individual's "image" over the safety, autonomy, and rights of another citizen ? Disgusting. If you commit a crime, you suffer ALL consequences. Monetary, punitive, and civil.

[@remcosommeling1059]

It protects anyone, up to a degree. It mainly ensures that (public) accusations aren't made lightly. In this time defamation is actually very common in western countries, and results in often severe punishment without trial. So, no, I don't think it's a strange law, especially when guilt hasn't been decided yet legally. But even besides that, additional punishment shouldn't be up to the public.

[@saintsone7877]

100% agree with you Kelli with the operative clause being "If you commit a crime". What happens however, if you were innocent and your name is plastered all over the media? EVERYONE has the same rights. Until found guilty of an offense an alleged perpetrator has the right NOT to have their name besmirched by an alleged victim or the media. once found guilty then by all means mete out the public shame etc as that is justice. But to have his/her name besmirched because of an "alleged crime" is wrong. I speak with some knowledge here as had a family member accused of being a party to gang rape(heinous offense), name published etc before the trial and during the trial was clear the family member was falsely accused by the alleged victim as he had documentary proof he was 1500 miles away at the time of the alleged offense against him. Was impossible for him to have been at the scene as video evidence showed he was interstate at the time yet the alleged victim positively identified him by name and in a police line-up. And although totally innocent for years the family was branded a rapist family. Yet, many in the public still saw that family member as guilty and treated him and the family as having a rapist in our family. As much as it is a vile law in Japan it protects the innocent from falsely being shamed.

[@saintsone7877]

@@remcosommeling1059 Correct Remco, the media is NOT the court yet today it often adopts the role of Judge and Jury. It shows we are indeed a sick society as we allow the media to publicise allegations as fact and to pass judgement before a trial. We today are no better than those who used to hang people who were accused of crimes and did not allow them a trial at all.

[@aliasofanalias7448]

It's not just about crime

[@zarifshoeb]

@@saintsone7877 yes but what about all the guilty people that are getting away because of this law ? The law itself should say that faulty accusations are a crime and can of course be sued and the person getting FALSELY accused should be compensated. But I bet there are so many criminals getting away with such laws

[@AlekThunder47]

Most people don't know that meaning of the "age of consent" is similar to "Romeo and Juliet law". I.e. if both participants are of that age, then the law is applicable. If someone is adult, then the law does not apply.

[@tokukao8987]

I don't know much about Japanese law but I had heard this before that this detail is intentionally left out from many sources for some reason, where both parties have to be similar age, if an adult did something to a teen, they're still going to prison

[@SomeBlackGuyWithABigD]

Thats not stopping me from smashing

[@nomadpi1]

When I grew up, OK. had an age of consent at 14 yrs old (the old Saddle Bag Laws) and Txs. still had 12 years old as an age of consent. This was a hold-over from pioneer days when young teenagers could marry at 14 or 15 yrs old. Also, girls could marry adult men and become housewives. I had 2 girl classmates marry young (one at 13 and the other at 12), and they both celebrated their 50th wedding anniversaries. Nearly everyone else in our class was married 2-3 times before 50 years of age. Of course, now, social scientists have upped it to 18 years I believe, or maybe 21 years old. Busybodies always never think of the maturity of teen-age people. Many are ignorant that most young people are capable of mature adult behavior prior to 18 years of age. It's the lack of livable employment and adult pressure, to seek abortions, delay having a mature life, and decries marriage as an indentured form of life.

[@mountainguyed67]

@@nomadpi1 some states still have 16 or 14 years of age consent laws, but there are stipulations. I know the 14 one, the partner can’t be more than five years older. I forget the other details.

[@darko714]

Age of consent laws were handy tools for prosecutors, and the ‘Romeo and Juliet laws are exceptions that have weakened them. Example: a gang rape where some of the defendants were minors.

[@Houd_Vast]

I just watched Karate Kid (I think the second where he goes to Japan) and it didn’t make sense to me that when the main protagonist exposes someone doing dirty business, and cheating people, the guy then says that he was dishonored, and became the final antagonist. Now it makes sense to me, and helps me find new respect and love for the movie.

[@methamphetamelon]

Problem is the guy dishonored himself by being a cheat. Defamation laws like this protect people who do wrong, and it's quite backwards really.

[@NoNamenoonehere]

@@methamphetamelon Your Statement has Dishonored us!

[@generalesdeath8157]

@@NoNamenoonehere I'm about to play Dishonored on ps3

[@saitama8186]

@@generalesdeath8157 nobody asked

[@BlackHawkBallistic]

A lot of asia has the honor/face culture and they will do anything to keep it even if its awful and disgusting

[@Jordan-tu4ki]

Love the traditional japanese ragtime music for the video

[@LadyVineXIII]

Although I'm all for putting a controller on slander, I think the defamation one needs to get an overhaul. Quasi-rape is rape. If they can't consent, you don't have consent. It's really that simple.

[@r0bw00d]

Japanese law obviously draws a distinction between the victim being conscious (don't) and unconscious (can't).

[@bendadestroyer]

I think the distiction is made to draw a line of damages. If you are unconscious, then you do not experience the penetration and therfore recieve less harm and less damage.

[@dawert2667]

@@bendadestroyer the distinction is made so that savvy rapists have an easier time getting away with it. It only protects the rapist

[@bendadestroyer]

If you want to look at the world as black and white and lump all similar crimes together that's on you. But the legal system should and does make distinctions for grey areas depending on the culture and system of laws (code vs common). It's not a conspiracy, it's to protect citizens rights and ensure that justice is served to a finite degree that is commensurate with the crime.

[@WaningLoon]

@@bendadestroyer yea if you chop off all my limbs while i'm asleep then it's a-okay because i do not experience my limbs getting chopped off :)

[@Pippis78]

I think the defamation thing is similar in my country (Finland) too. You can't even post a picture of someone who committed a crime to catch them. And saying nasty TRUTHFUL things about an ex employer could get you in serious trouble.

[@XxMadermanxX]

there's a lot of countries with shitty laws

[@southpole4776]

Sounds like a totalitarian dictatorship

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

@@XxMadermanxX like, all of them

[@honkhonk8009]

In the US, If a politician passed such a law where you can't criticise corporations or government officials, people would call the a politician a commie fucker and prolly drive-by his family before invading the Capitol lmfao

[@TheSimoc]

Yes, Finland is famous of many stupid laws as well as high amount of structural corruption, which does not get shown in the official, Soros Foundation funded corruption monitoring. However, while all you said was true, the defamation laws are not quite as bad as in the Japan, in Finland it is still mostly legal to make negative reviews of companies.

[@shandrakor4686]

You know that strange take on defamation law explains a fair bit of the oddness I've seen in some manga and anime. If that's the case I can see why certain people can get away with what they did.

[@XxMadermanxX]

japanese society is so lost

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

Mail-ordered magazines from Germany abiding to WESTERN consent laws, featuring girls who were at the age when average American is having non-consensual sex with classmates? "some" is a funny word, but I bet your condemnation wub-wub-wubs randomly to the case being as bad as you WANT it to be, to get your rocks off with outrage.

[@SidheKnight]

Please explain

[@gemelwalters2942]

@d[llp; d and molestation that happens on trains. Even some of the very young female pop stars that attract these old men is an eye opener because you can't call them out. I recently watched a documentary and some of them have the gall to say they go to watch these kids because they like their "music" . The culture allows for a lot of obscene things to go on

[@samuelsoliday4381]

@@joeking6762 I think he's saying that the claim that they go for the music is a bold faced lie. Also, it's not okay when the older women ogle the under age boy singers either.

[@That1SupportiveFriend]

I live in Illinois,USA. The age of consent is where I live is 17 and strangely enough according to state law first cousins are allowed to marry as long as both individuals are age 50+ or if one of them is “certified as permanently and irreversible sterile by a licensed physician.”

[@yamo_chan]

It was strange when travelling in Japan, the further south I went, the more lax the smoking laws got. By the time I got to Beppu, the chef that was cooking my meal was smoking while he cooked!

[@ttaskoify]

Im japanese but.i never saw a cook smoke while cooking Im a smoker but thats not what professionals do Ill call the manager if i see that

[@ErnestJay88]

Defamation laws are the reason why some japanese prefer to call the police over something so simple like "i don't like my neighbor playing music too loud" or "someone park his/her car in front of my door and it blocked my vehicle" because asking your neighbor turn down the volume or use public loudspeaker to announce someone to "move their car" might ended "dishonoring their family values" and defamation law comes in.

[@トマトケチャップ-k8q]

日本じゃまずありえない

[@Scott-G11]

@@トマトケチャップ-k8q - I'm willing to bet Japanese people are no where near as petty or jealous as people in the USA. Am I right ? 😊

[@トマトケチャップ-k8q]

@@Scott-G11 論点がズレています🤗

[@Scott-G11]

@@トマトケチャップ-k8q - I'm not sure what it translates to in your reply to myself but I think its good. LOL

[@トマトケチャップ-k8q]

@@Scott-G11 論点が逸れていると発言したのです🤗 わたしは翻訳機能を活用して、あなたの英語を完璧に理解しています。 ですが、あなたのその小さな知能では、翻訳機能を活用しても日本語を理解することは不可能なようですね🤗

[@TheTangentExpress]

I went to Japan a few years ago, and I was surprised by how smoking-friendly it was. There were smoking booths at the airport, smoking sections in restaurants--which my home state did away with decades ago--and smoking was just much more socially acceptable in general. And yeah, the cousin thing is pretty well known by now, I think. It's so normal it comes up in anime/manga without anyone batting an eye.

[@Rich_iam]

Korea is the same. I always say socially they are living in the 1940s, but technologically they are in like 2030. I've seen booths inside establishments like pool halls where you can smoke and then carry on with your game lol

[@bcmteacher]

The legality of cousin marriages are common in many places. It's just grown out of favor in some cultures. Nothing new or shocking.

[@simonscardino4135]

This remember me Alabama..., the big "secrets" land that anyone knows well about. Okay, its no longer a secret but everyone live that as a big secret. 😆😅

[@babkeebabkus8177]

@@bcmteacher jerry lee lewis did both the age of consent thing and the cousin thing when he went deep up in the guts of his 13 year old cousin and married her...elvis got into priscilla at 14...millions of american men over the past 100 years have married young teen women of 13...14..15 and most of them would have had babies at these ages...age of consent laws are for making money off the supposed crimes...when a child reaches puberty at 13 or 14 they become a young adult..anyone calling young teens kids is batsh!t crazy...kids are 12 and under

[@imthecreatorofmyrealitymyf700]

I wish the Cousin was the same in the US because I want to pipe my cousin so bad

[@atombomb459]

I live in the US. Where I live we have a cigar shop that you can smoke in. Most place don't allow smoking inside. I once flow from Denver to salt lake. Both airports had a sealed off room for people to smoke.

[@oroboras]

Yep national age of consent is 13, which sounds shocking - but prefectural law(the equivalent of state law in the USA) supersedes national law, and ALL Prefectures have it at 16 or more, not most - meaning no matter where you go in Japan, for all intents and purposes, the age of consent is a more sensible 16 or more.

[@philippillis9393]

14-16 is sensible, 18 is not. I hope countries would stop following the US in such matters where two high schoolers, one 18 and the other 17, are actually involved in a case of statutory rape just because of the age gap. In most EU countries age of consent is 14-15-16 and there are no critical issues about minors being groomed for sex. Also teens have sex they're well into puberty so thinking of them as asexual beings is silly and naive.

[@MTMF.london]

At one time in the US, some Southern states have laws allowing 13 year-olds to get married (usually young girls to much older men). The legendary Jerry Lee Lewis was married to his 13 year-old cousin - it was totally legal.

[@philippillis9393]

@@MTMF.london your point? are you comparing marrying a 13Yo cousin to having consensual sex with teens?

[@seanbraley2772]

Agreed and if it wasn’t all you have to do is report it to the cops in the next state in some parts of the us you can get married with parental consent as early as 14 or 15 but try to say tht in the other states and at best they are telling you your marriage is not recognized or at worse if your older your going to jail for statutory rape at best

[@greenlitlleman]

The key difference is that it's governed by moral laws, how it should be, not rape laws. And those laws affect everyone, not just adults.

[@astralpolice]

Just so you know P man, I am so stoked for your KZbin videos. They mean a lot to me. I also like the fact that we can see little Wolfie growing up. I think you are very professional, I appreciate your attitude, and I hope you never stop.

[@intellectuallyhungry]

Sounds to me that Defamation needs an overhaul (&, arguably, in the States, as well, w/ regard to media & politicians clearly defaming others. A balance between

[@eugenetswong]

As I was saying in the other thread, shaming is a gentle way of fighting back, and it's 1 of the few tools that normies like us have. It's a horrible thing to take that power away. I think that truthfulness should be the limiting factor of defamation.

[@Lady-Seashell-Bikini]

@@eugenetswong Agreed. If what the person is saying is true, then there should be no issue. If you don't want to be defamed because you had an affair, then don't have an affair.

[@sa34w]

@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini if your wife had an affair and your co worker used that to defame you still it’s defamation

[@Jimwill01]

@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini And what if you are defamed for an affair you did NOT have?

[@denniszenanywhere]

@@Jimwill01 that’s why it doesn’t have to be black and white right or wrong but be a case to case basis. People can be quick to judge.

[@makymakvrchat]

Loving the Hoody design ❤

[@patrickomeagher9868]

I lived in the Kansai region for 14 years. What got me about the vending machines was you need a tasco card for cigarettes, but you can freely buy beer, sake, and chu-hai (like a wine cooler made with sho-chu, a Japanese spirit) as easily as a can of coffee from vending machines on the street. Also, in the US, alcohol can't be sold after 2am in most states, but it's available 24/7 in Japan.

[@firefly618]

IIRC alcohol vending machines are only allowed outside of sake shops, because it's implied that the shop owner will take responsibility for whoever buys their products. (Sounds like a typical Japanese excuse, doesn't it?) On the other hand, Japan doesn't seem to have as big an issue with alcoholism as many English-speaking countries, so maybe they don't need to be more strict than that?

[@busterbiloxi3833]

Japan is great. Booze at all hours!

[@FM-cu3eu]

In Japan🇯🇵, there is a law that says that a person is not guilty of sexual intercourse with a saint if he or she is 13 years old and sexually consensual. 13 years old is the age when a person has just graduated from elementary school. Also, a law was passed this month that allows high school students to perform in adult films. The number of sex crimes against children is increasing every year. It is a country of pedophilia and Lolita complexes. What do you all think of this country?😉

[@Fiercesoulking]

Germany doesn't have either problem with alcohol while there is no vending machine for alcohol I know of the legal age for beer is 16 and for the rest 18 but it can be even lower if it is part of a tradition like sparkling wine to new year . The US is one of the tightest land on alcohol and sex topics in the western world . In Germany we had a big crack down on smoking the last 20 years now you need an ID card for vending machines to get cigarettes . The other thing is we don't like too much violence in media

[@lordbalbero348]

I don´t see the Problem with the Vending Machines. It is nice and usefull. Or maybe I´m just too used to it. After all, besides the smoking wich got a huge hit over the last decades, most of the Laws in Japan are quite similar to ours here in Germany. Besides the cultural differances and the etiquette how to behave, we are quite alike.

[@skipclone1]

Related to the food issue, the ivory market in Japan has been more regulated recently but there are still tortoise shell products sold in stores, and exotic pets-i know someone who has a rescue shelter for them and other animals when they are no longer 'cute' or too much trouble and are abandoned.

[@iPlayOnSpica]

A little refreshing to have a thread about something other than defamation. For the most part, I don't think the exotic foods are really an issue because they're exotic. However, I find it ironic that the countries who in the past hunted whale almost to extinction just for the oil (and threw away the rest of the body) are the same ones today complaining that Japan and Scandinavia are hunting whales in much smaller numbers and not wasting the resources.

[@floki_vt]

I mean ivory is still legal to buy and sell in the west...if its provably prior to the bans.

[@skipclone1]

@@floki_vt That can be hard to document. Someone gave me an acoustic guitar, since they didn't play. It's from a Japanese company which has since changed and makes boutique guitars. This one is not that special, except that the truss rod plate and pickguard are real tortoise shell. I have no idea how I would prove that it's from a company that existed before CITIES-especially since they're still ariound, in a modified form.

[@MIZZKIE]

The pet industry of Japan is one hellish nightmare of a rabbit hole, disguised by fancy services and fake saviours....

[@samaraisnt]

Abandoning animals in Japan is apparently very common. It may be because their vet bills are extortionate and people would rather just let their animal die then pay. Honestly in that case it is both society and the people's apathy that is to blame.

[@albertorius]

In Spain there's a very similar case to the defamation law, which is the "affronts to honor" law.

[@ruthydrawsalot1979]

Those laws are just ways to protect abusive ppl

[@your_royal_highness]

In the US its called being a “snowflake.”

[@mohameda5947]

@@your_royal_highness i think people could sue people in us for libel and/ or defamation

[@traininghp-svcs5485]

"honor" offences sound like they should be dealt with through combat challenges

[@mohameda5947]

@@traininghp-svcs5485 mortal kombat

[@mileenasilvers6480]

Id like to visit japan sometime, do you have any tips for me? Im already starting to learn japanese and should be done by the time i visit in a few years.

[@Keenok]

I have lived in Thailand for the last 16 years and we have serious defamation issues here too. Just leaving a negative comment on a travel website factually stating the issues at a hotel or restaurant can and will get you sued. I don't know what the law states, but if you ever travel here, do not name and shame terrible businesses, or at least until you are back home and safe. So for example, if you and your whole family ate negligently poisoned food at a restaurant and died from it, the news will not report the name of the restaurant.

[@fendermon]

That's so messed up.

[@blu3j00Ls]

Omg. So eye-opening

[@MrTruckerf]

Ridiculous!

[@Garibaldi1]

Insanely ridiculous. People need to be called out for their shitty behavior and shamed for it. They SHOULD have less honour

[@cosmicmuffin322]

Like always, the laws to protect "honour" really just protect the most wealthy and powerful, i.e. those with no honour at all.

[@rainfogz9203]

Honor

[@quix66hiya22]

@@rainfogz9203 depending on your country, either is correct.

[@daveamies5031]

@@rainfogz9203 honour is the English spelling, please don't correct people if you don't speak English (American is not English)

[@mountainguyed67]

@@daveamies5031 Are you insulting us American’s on our???

[@daveamies5031]

@@mountainguyed67 No not at all, no insult intended, i'm sure you speak/spell American very well.

[@rafaelortega1376]

In Spain, the minimum age for sexual consent was also 13 up to 2015, when it was raised up to 16 with consideration for maturity in edge cases.

[@m.r.a7992]

Still low comparing to Canada lol

[@mssatire14]

That's why pedophiles run the world

[@Apprentice_lyfe]

@@m.r.a7992 that's true, it seems creepy to wanna hit it if it's under 18 even though the cultural differences exist. You'd think by 2022 the world could agree that a 13 year old or a 16 year old is still a child and should be protected and not persued

[@m.r.a7992]

@@Apprentice_lyfe well as it seem alot of countries still don't care what year its , because it's still happening.

[@m.r.a7992]

@B Kelly it's way too different my friend lol

[@StamfordBridge]

“Imposing food culture from outside.” What BS. An endangered species is a universal concept. There’s a reason the world agreed on a moratorium.

[@laurendoe168]

Re: Smoking. I remember the days here in the USA where it was common to smoke everywhere, even in grocery stores. To me, the radical change in one lifetime is extremely swift when it comes to changing a culture.

[@Ragnar8504]

It still blows my mind that smoking in lecture halls had only been banned for a year when I started university in Austria in 2003! And as late as 2015 a smoking ban in bars and restaurants was abolished by a newly elected government even before the ban had taken effect, the minister of health(!) claiming it would be nasty towards smokers. Yes, she used something that translates to "nasty". Fortunately the law was reinstated by the next government and did come into effect in 2019.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

@@Ragnar8504 I can understand not having smoking in most public areas, but a cigar bar or making cigar bars illegal?

[@garryferrington811]

It started in Singapore when Lee Kwan quit smoking and wanted everyone else to quit, too. The US discovered productivity increased there and the bans began. I predicted obesity would explode here, and yep. Boom.

[@ifrit1937]

@@leadpaintchips9461 Personally rather than a law it should just be left to the individual business to decide. If they want smoking everywhere, in particular areas, or not at all it's on them to decide. As far as public settings like the street/park go i don't care either way...at most they have to be responsible and be careful not to start a fire in any places with dry wood/vegetation and the like otherwise they face court if one's started by their carelessness (for throwing smoldering cigarette butts into the grass and stuff like that...it'd essentially be arson even if it's not as deliberate). If someone wants to destroy their lungs that's on them...I would hope that anyone would at least have enough grace to move away from people that clearly don't want to be breathing it in though (my mom and dad smoke outside the house for example as my bro and I hate smoking...granted in my case it's also cause I have Asthma and smoking sets it off a bit...I did try smoking 1x though when i was 5 years old cause my dad left his cigarette in his ash tray when he went outside and it caused me to fall down on the ground writhing in pain barely being able to breath and due to that I decided i will never smoke any cigarette, cigar, weed, etc ever again (and haven't either)...sometimes the best way to learn is to get burned and damn i got burned hard that time lol. Ironically it's probably cause of that that I also don't drink or do drugs either...even when the drugs are prescribed drugs that i should be taken (that may be bad lol)).

[@kirbwarriork3371]

@@ifrit1937 If someone was destroying only their own lungs, this wouldn't be an issue. Second hand smoke is terrible and being around it consistently is worse than being the one smoking. It's completely baffling that I could smoke around someone and cause them to breathe all those terrible chemicals and yet if I added a similar amount to someone's water for them to drink suddenly I'm poisoning them.

[@bjhellstream]

The Defamation law is the same in Sweden. You're not allowed to publicly spread rumours about someone even if it's true. The only exception is when it's in the public interest.

[@TheloniousCube]

Same in Britain, too

[@masterdevoe2519]

What is "public interest"?

[@LadyBoy_Barbie]

@@masterdevoe2519 ikr it sounds subjective

[@TheGrindelwald]

People in power in general. But it has to do with the action itself. If it’s a very severe crime the common interest would be considered higher. But also you don’t name a person who are accused of a crime before they are judged. For example there was the “cultural prophile” who had connections to the Swedish academy. Before he got his sentence, newspapers used this name. After this they could say his real name was Jean-Claude Arnault. That’s how we get nicknames for suspected criminals in Sweden. Like “the laser man”, the priest of Knutby”, “the bride of Christ”, “the 41 year old” etc.

[@bjhellstream]

@@masterdevoe2519 If it's a high profile case with someone who already is in the public eye. So not your neighbour, work colleagues or anyone not known.

[@decordova.]

I remember in Japan I accidently ended up sitting in the smoking cabin, which I didn't know existed. About 2 mins into my ride I started smelling smoke and looked over the seats in front to see smoke. Then adjacent to my seat I saw another lighting up. Good thing was that I was a smoker at the time, and decide to light up one too.. Honestly it was an awkward feeling doing that, just as awkward as drinking can Chu-Hi while walking on the street and in the subway....

[@alwaysright3718]

Smoking cigars in bars should be law everywhere...

[@ryguy7227]

To add to the smoking one: It's been just a touch over 2 years since I was there, but I remember smoking being allowed in some, if not many, arcades as well. I frequented the Sega arcade nearby the Jiyugaoka Station and the upper floor had no shortage of smoke.

[@paulorocky]

Smoking in hotel rooms caught me out. In Australia indoor smoking is generally off limits (even in some rental housing) so it didn’t occur to me to request a “non-smoking” floor for our hotel rooms.

[@thecatskaramazov8632]

the defamation law in japan is the same with the philippines. it doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not as long as it was made publicly and tends to humiliate or dishonor the victim

[@badensnaxx5804]

A friend lived in Japan for two years, his partner was a social worker. She warned him to be very careful, the courts were very much biased in favour of the prosecution, especially with foreigners. He loved the place but found it difficult to live there, the final straw was a visit to the local hospital A&E. He was a chef & sliced his hand open to the bone, goes to the hospital & was told to wait. At 6 pm, an orderly comes out, slides down the shutter & closes up A&E. Tells them to go to nearest city hospital, a three hour drive.

[@unclesasuke6858]

Wow, how sad :( It's unfortunate that Japan seems to still be so closed to outsiders, in many ways.

[@googievideo1]

That's crazy. I hope your friend is doing ok. I can't even imagine going through that.

[@jamesm28]

So what's the rest of the story? Did he make it to the hospital ok, were they able to save his hand? Did he get better treatment at the state hospital?

[@Zen-sx5io]

@@jamesm28 If Bad Snaxx cuts off the story there, then we have to assume his boy did make It.

[@MichaelMagill1990]

@@Zen-sx5io He said the "final straw was when" and then this event happened. So he's telling it from his friend's perspective. Unless he's able to commune with the dead, the guy lived. At least between the time he was rejected and told to go to another hospital lol.

[@TheGreatSeraphim]

First is no longer true. As of June 2023 Japan's age of consent is 16. The reasoning being that Japan's conservative values made it a rare occurrence but with the growing influence of liberal mindset they felt it was time to align it more with the rest of the world.

[@isabelgarrido6910]

In Portugal is also legal to marry your first, second, third (etc...) cousin. We avoided to do so because ours is a mainly catholic country and the Catholic Church advised against it. Even so, this was done for centuries, especially among the nobility and royal families (portuguese and spanish monarchies).

[@ibnu9969]

Yeah here in most of Asia it's legal, not taboo, and common

[@bahastar6688]

Catholic church are inbred imposters of christianity they worship satan in disguise they have been controlling the masses for years breeding amongst themselves to keep the secrets secret

[@destroymalefeminists]

explains why so much of the world doesn't have common sense LMAO

[@ibnu9969]

@@destroymalefeminists well here's one example

[@kaouthermes6690]

In Middle East and North Africa its very common to marry your cousin

[@itsbob9211]

I love how he’s explaining these dark and crazy laws while coco melon music is playing in the back

[@csvega]

Lol right?

[@googleandsusansucks]

Dark and crazy? Man you need to visit Saudi Arabia.

[@yallitsbonnie1494]

@@googleandsusansucks have you ever visited arabia their very friendly and helpful I bet you only watch Arabic movies or Arabic war

[@ColdBluex]

I'm born and raised in Italy, still living here: 1) In Italy "unlimited" age of consent is 14. It's raised to 16 if the partner is a person of "influence" for the minor, like: a tutor, a teacher, a parent (even adoptive), a grandparent, a sister or brother etc. If they have sexual activity abusing of their position "of influence" then it's a felony (this, obviously, doesn't erase but it's added to the felony of incest. Simply the age above or under 16yo makes differences in the severity of the guilt). Otherwise the age of consent is 13 ONLY provided that the older partner is a minor too and not older than 4 years (long story short, since in Italy the age of majority is 18yo, a 13yo can have consensual sexual activity with a partner not older than 17 yo) 2) it's legal to marry your first cousin because there is a loophole: the law doesn't allow it but it doesn't forbid it either, so "if it doesn't say no, it's a yes". I had a class mate at the elementary school that was the daugther of first cousins and she had also an older brother (and they were both so BEAUTIFUL T_T). 3) Defamation: similar to Japan, you can be suited for defamation even if what you say it's true. This is because the concept of "defamation" involve the will of the slanderer to harm the victim saying "bad things" to "2 or more people" through "speech, written or other type of media", so it doesn't matter if what you say it's true or not, because you're doing it specifically to harm the person/group/business, etc. Not just for the sake of stating something true or happened. Otherwise you can tell the truth but in a non-offensive way and it's considered a "right of criticism" and/or "right of report/chronicle/news". Fun fact: to be able to suit someone to defamation, the slanderer must have "talked bad" about their victim WITHOUT their presence. So you must "talking to their back". If you insult someone in person, it's a different felony. To follow the video examples, here they wouldn't have been labelled as defamation, as far as I understand the law, because it's a "right of chronicle". Many news in Italy have also names and surnames (unless they're minors), cities, photographies of the houses, etc. Especially when there is a crime involved. 4) We don't eat whale but for example is some region is very common to eat horse meat! Especially in Veneto, Lombardy and Sicily. In other regions, like mine, it's possible to find "equine butcheries" even in small villages, but usually horse meat is considered for people with health issues, especially anemia due to its iron level. 5) Here cigarettes are a "Monopoly of the State" together with alcohol, other product with tobacco (like cigars) or used with e-cigs (aka the liquids needed to vape), tax stamps and gambling. Pretty much all the major "vices/bad habits", so the State earn a lot of money from them and for this -obvioiusly- they won't be completely forbid or not-promoted. Cigarettes can be bought in public distributors with an ID card (but since recently. Until 20 years ago or less you could buy tobacco products and alcohol even if you were a minor). Here you can smoke in public where you want (even if more and more people are annoyed by it). In indoors spaces instead you must find a "smoker room", even on some public transport like trains. It's also legal to drink alcohol in public. You can also find shows and local fairs that sells glasses of wine, bier, or find people drinking their bier while walking down the street or near some pub, bar or similar :D

[@drchapman]

I'll add a point. If I remember well they should have introduced some non-smoking areas in Milan (I'm talking about parks, bus stops etc.), but no one really cares about those (It's hard to immediately change habits)

[@busterbiloxi3833]

Laws mean nothing in Italy. People do what they want.

[@schawo2]

In Hungary the general age of consent is 14 and the lowered age of consent is 12 between minors.

[@morgoth6273]

@@busterbiloxi3833 that applies only in the south And of course politicians, but that's a story for another time

[@charginginprogresss]

Note for the smoking part: there are indoors spaces where it's forbidden, and if you smoke there and there's someone 12yo or younger, you can be fined in the range of 500-5000€, per offense. And about meat, in some places you can eat bear meat too. Speaking of endangered animals being eaten.

[@Snauzers]

Wow !! Ty for this. ❤