Things that make me judge someone’s rifle

[@chrispickett3092]

Retired AIRBORNE here, and I don't give two sheets what someone else thinks of my weapon. Nuff Said

[@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw]

I wrap my entire rifle in hockey tape because GBRS told me it looked cool.

[@2amichaelj]

I thought adding a 3 foot mount so I can hip fire while aiming was the GBRS way?

[@davidsirmons]

Who GAF what you think?

[@nickhyslop5743]

Drives a manual transmission has manual windows no a/c or power steering because he’s training to jump into someone else’s car one day

[@urielmartinez2161]

I feel attacked

[@PatrickHenry-y5h]

Not sure if this was too controversial. I personally don't care what people do to their rifles.

[@2amichaelj]

That muzzle break on a 18 or 20 spr is actually pretty nice.

[@Ma_Deuce]

I run a SJC on both my 20" barrels. Recoil is basically non existent.

[@cerebralfirearms]

I shoot mostly with a brake….under a suppressor because of the amount of rounds I shoot a year. Exposure to loud sounds 30-50k times a year over a decade can degrade hearing permanently.

[@fixedG]

I'm old enough to remember when absolute and lower third were the only two options for optic height.

[@MattWaller04]

So you're older than the carry handle gang?

[@Chevydude1982]

Using that 45 safety is dumb,not any faster and they're not safe. I agree with most the other shit u said. The biggest thing is who fucking cares? U use what works best for u.99% of people judging others set up can't shoot for shit to begin with. Get out and train and don't worry about what others say.

[@NightcityGunner]

I prefer the 1.93, I can mount the gun without tilting my head or the rifle. I might have a long neck but even with a lower 1/3 I still have to dip my nose when I mount the gun. Different strokes for different folks. Having the same posture when shooting rifle and pistols a plus.

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Bipods on backwards. I walk away…backwards.

[@bulldaggerwatkins190]

The time and energy spent judging people’s rifles is time and energy that could be spent at the range or dry-firing.

[@healthfreak79]

Simple, no nonsense and effective. Thank you.

[@marineplaysairsoft]

Joel, you are C class at trolling

[@ZizinRacing]

He's just too nice for it.

[@KartSmarter]

Needs to attend the Stoeger advanced trolling seminar

[@joelpark556]

Thank you for noticing 🥷

[@M3thodbombz]

I use a surefire brake because i like the recoil delete and I’m not an operator or LE. I use a mega arms single stage trigger (4.5lbs) because I like the immediate wall and then trigger break. Geissele super duty spring and H2 buffer. Haley Strategic WML, Holosun Red Dot and magpul furniture. Nothing else fancy about my rifle

[@masonthorpe7327]

When you have experience on a two way shooting range, come back and we can talk.

[@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen]

Yeah, this is fucking dumb. "Having an advantage in a gunfight is for gamers. I want to slow my rifle down." Smfh🤦🏻‍♂️ This guy is either trolling, or just being willfully ignorant.

[@josh656]

Absolute co-witness bros we are so back

[@lobbyrobby]

I have a muzzle brake to accept my silencer. I threw in a different buffer and charging handle as I needed to once suppressed. Changed out the stock and handgrip, added a geissele sd-c and a lpvo. That's all I need on my m&p15. I don't understand the guys who have every accessory known to mankind on their firearm which now weights 37 lbs lol.

[@virgilpalmer2427]

Flashlights are funny ..but, they look COOL...😂

[@justinrush6620]

Makes sense for you to avoid a brake given you train LE, for sure. It also makes sense for people who take classes because you are shooting in a firing line right next to others, or if you want to train with something more challenging. Outside of those constraints being firmly against a brake seems kinda fuddy.

[@EuropaChronicles]

I think everyone (including armed civilians) should use basic flash hiders on their training guns and a muzzle brake (if they want) on their home defense/truck/SHTF rifle. There’s a lot of things that you learn when you do your training with more challenging gear. My training rifles also have mil-spec triggers because they force me to be more aware of my trigger press.

[@mytmousemalibu]

I like a brake with a can as it serves as a sacrificial baffle and can slightly reduce the sound signature over other devices. The Surefire devices are pretty good if you run an SF device. Liking Rearden nowadays.

[@maximusprimus827]

I run 1.93 on my home defense 300 blackout rifle, and I use lower 1/3 on my battle/SHTF rifle. I want a solid cheek weld for longer distances.

[@gadgetguy99]

I use a lower 1/3 T2 on an overbore kenu mount due to a neck injury. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who doesn't have to go higher than 1.93

[@06barcafan10]

Never judge another man’s rifle.

[@devincrinklaw2104]

Joel, I used lower 1/3 My entire LE career. HOB is a real issue. Great video. We never allowed Brakes on a duty rifles either.

[@jayroller7054]

Nice man, I like your style! Making videos to trigger people is awesome! 😂

[@michaelguthrie8206]

Your chin is a point of contact. The more points of contact, the more stability you have. Maybe in cqb it doesnt matter. But for intermediate to longer range it does.

[@theexpressionbooth]

I think it depends on the person. I use a unity mount on redots and magnifier. I still get a good lower cheek weld. I did drills with a lower 1/3 and a unity. They both has the same groups but I was faster gettjng on target and transktions with the unity and more comfortable. My dad hates it so I get people not liking it. It works for me though.

[@DraegerV1]

This the kind of guy who tried "working out" once but didnt like it.

[@tbenson5966]

And then still out shot you.

[@DraegerV1]

@tbenson5966 you seem like the kind of guy who thinks being an MP is "pretty much" infantry.

[@user-hm2yt2up7d]

@@tbenson5966 To outshoot him in a way that could be measured/is valid, Joel would have to shoot rifle matches, and Joel doesn't shoot rifle matches. Big red flag right there. Might as well train with Rob Pincus

[@quilope]

@DraegerV1 It's like you almost told a joke, but it's backwards.

[@501_levi]

3 gunner here, feeling very triggered with all my gamer parts and 1.93 mount 😂

[@joelpark556]

@@501_levi yay!! Mission accomplished!

[@T20-c8f]

lol don’t know how you do it. I’m not blessed enough to have night vision, but I have a nightforce 2.5-20 in a 1.54” badger mount, with a top mounted Steiner MPS. I don’t know how high it is but it’s high AF. I couldn’t imagine doing that to myself on purpose as my only sight. I love my lower 3rd eotech and iron sights

[@armorers_wrench]

@@T20-c8f I have a PLX-C in a 1.54 plx mount with a top mounted 507c and yeah it gets really tall. Its totally in the realm of a chin weld instead of a cheek weld.

[@501_levi]

⁠@@joelpark556does being really tall i.e 6’7 and having a fully adjustable stock with a adjustable cheek comb (dissident arms adaptive stock) get me back any cool guy points?

[@williamcooper2496]

That's pre-travel on the trigger...

[@gec-o2167]

Compensators compensate for lack of skill.

[@joelpark556]

Big fax 📠

[@user-hm2yt2up7d]

@@joelpark556 Can only really talk about a lack of skill if you actually shoot rifle matches...

[@austinbuck8108]

Use your hands for self defense then. Using a gun is compensating for lack of skill. Same logic.

[@user-hm2yt2up7d]

What if anything do you teach that's different from Stoeger, and why should someone take a class with you instead of Ben? Trying to see if you're a copy and paste instructor

[@bljdeep]

@@user-hm2yt2up7d this guy is not as cool as Ben. This guys wife probably has a boyfriend

[@Blucifer1776]

Dooty guns = no muzzle brakes and a mil spec trigger because why? It makes it easier? Mmk

[@DrEvil024]

What are your thoughts on the surefire closed tine. The one like a birdcage but open all the way around?

[@joelpark556]

@@DrEvil024 I want to try one of those. It seems like they’d work well.

[@armorers_wrench]

@@joelpark556 They don't have the labyrinth seals. You'll get shit leaking out of the suppressor which means it'll be louder and flashier than it needs to be. Especially with the RC3. Just a heads up. Also, I owned it and I was like "meh". It's not as good as a true $2 A2 birdcage. It feels like their normal "birdcage" that you had in this video but even that one isn't the same as an actual A2 birdcage.

[@joelpark556]

@@armorers_wrenchgood to know. I hadn’t thought about the labyrinth seal.

[@DrEvil024]

I do have a couple RC2’s along with a polonium with the surefire hub mount adapter. I don’t notice any difference between the seal on the closed tine , the three prong or muzzle brake surefire adapters. The war comp three prong is louder. The polonium is the quietest 5.56 can for the money that I have seen yet. Admittedly I have not seen all cans but so far this is the best one for my setup.

[@AKAB_22]

Not me with a muzzle break and a holosun 510c 😂

[@BennyTriad]

Triggers engaged lol

[@robertwilkinson2293]

Three prong flash hiders went away in the 1970's for a reason.

[@dsbiddle]

But they came back

[@JG_1998]

I wouldn't ever use a break, but my KAC MCQ suppressor basically acts like one. It only adds 2 inches to the end of the flash hider and it pretty much eliminates recoil while also reducing the concussion.

[@wvlongshooter3912]

Not offended at all. I agree with your content. Thanks!!

[@armorers_wrench]

Joel you should try a Geissele Super Duty. Seriously they are very sweet shooters dude. Especially if you either buy the complete rifle or you buy the upper and then run it with the recommended spring and buffer weight from Geissele. They're very soft but also very reliable and the bcg is very nice too. The Geissele barrels are the most mechanically accurate "hard use" AR15 barrels I've ever owned and I have owned(and currently do own) multiple Criterion's which is what ADM uses.

[@damionchrist]

Geissele rules!! 💯

[@joelpark556]

I have a friend with a URGI. It shoots fantastic.

[@theknowbot5000]

An ar is like everything in life everybody is different and likes what they like

[@ThisHandleIsntAvailableTryANew]

Love my adm 13.9 mid with a hux can

[@youneverknow1536]

Flashhiders are illegal in my state so don't judge..pin and weld to boot!

[@Bmxr1991]

Things that make me judge someone elses rifle: one that was bought as a complete. And, putting a buffer tube and a law tactical folder on a brn 180, or any other bufferless setup. As insane as that sounds i promise you i have seen it. Honest outlaw brn 180 review, 100% the most idiotic rifle setup i have ever seen in my entire life.

[@Mr.J.Diesel]

Ya I agree that 1.93 is not for me . Lower 1 /3 is that sweat spot 🤙🏽

[@brianmincher716]

Why wouldn’t you want less recoil?

[@joelpark556]

@@brianmincher716 good question. I’ll make a follow up video

[@brianmincher716]

@@joelpark556thank you! I’m super curious as I’ve always done everything I could to make my weapons recoil as little as possible and generally shoot any given platform about as well as the trigger and recoil control will allow. Maybe you are thinking something along the lines of a baseball player swinging a heavy bat in the warm up circle, I dunno, and would love to hear your thoughts on it. Thx in advance.

[@thunder_mountain_muleys]

Super pissed I wasn't judged on my paint job. I Bob Rossed the $hit out of it and gave it some of Gods happy plaid. 🇺🇲. 🚫🐑

[@richardrobinson9534]

So the A2 does not help with recoil but then you say you dont like it because it pushes the rifle down when firing......😂 Thats literally recoil control wtf

[@cmdrclonetk5508]

Muzzle breaks are probably great for competition and one man suicide missions but for the people around you.. your just the a-hole that can't shoot and make lots of noise, also you have never shot that gun in a room. For practical use it's flash hiders to protect your threading or suppressors ( the better muzzle break.) I used to think muzzle breaks were cool... then I worked with a team....

[@TexasRedneck]

JMAC LAF has entered the chat! 😅

[@pdbnc]

My understanding (and I'm sure someone will be along to correct me) is that muzzle brake devices have an advantage if you're doing a lot of shooting suppressed in that they act as a sacrificial baffle that's a lot easier on your can's internals than a flash hider or raw dogging it with a direct thread mount. Also I really really don't like cartridge style drop-in triggers on duty/training guns. They just don't seem to hold up as well as the GI style.

[@99cobra2881]

Exactly right I dont have a brake on my 11.5 because I enjoy concussive recoil, I have it because a muzzle brake is easily serviceable while the blast baffle in an RC2 is not. I will let that brake eat that unburnt powder versus making the can do it. YMMV depending on what suppressor you own.

[@armorers_wrench]

If your suppressor has an inconel blast chamber you don't need a muzzle brake. Consider: USASOC has used the 4 prong flash hider forever and there have been guys on youtube who have said they very rarely had to send suppressors back to be serviced. Kevin Owens said as much in an old garandthumb video and we also have guys like Ben Stoeger and Joel here who are running flash hiders with huge round counts through their suppressors and they're not having issues. It just isn't an issue anymore but use whatever you want.

[@DraegerV1]

@@99cobra2881 we have millions of rounds through our RC2's at work on the 4 prongs. Not once over 10+ years have we seen an RC2 fail. Sacrificial baffel is a myth with SF cans. Cant say the same for others

[@rickt5705]

I guess you're getting a view and a comment from me, so congrats! But the next time I want to see something this dull, I will check out an orange-handle D2 knife from Walmart/Ozark Trail after it's opened 5.3 boxes. In all seriousness, keep at it man! More videos, find your stride, etc.

[@Thb1990]

The one thing I will say about the break is if you run a suppressor for actual duty it acts as an extra baffle and limits wear on the suppressor.

[@Blain5700]

What's up with that dust cover tho.

[@SpecOpsGear]

556 muzzle brakes are awful and pointless.

[@facelesssman]

While I have a 3 pronged muzzle device….. I should hope you would agree, that a Police officer or Citizen putting a muzzle break on their rifle for an even smoother follow ups in a use of deadly force engagement or protection of their family, being that we’re not talking about shooting paper or a USPSA competition, would be a smart choice… Even as a given that they’re training regularly and proficient. That simply seems like pragmatism to me.🤷🏼‍♂️

[@joelpark556]

@@facelesssman that’s very good conversation for a follow up video. I like it.

[@shootinbruin3614]

In the 90's and early 00's, my local SWAT used 11.5" ARs with the old Smith muzzle brake as their standard longarm. The ones who've been in shootings (often indoors) have all told me that they cannot remember being affected by concussion even without hearing protection. While I'm still hesitant to put a brake on my own HD rifle--especially with the advent of short, lightweight suppressors--it's hard to discount the experience of people who've actually seen the elephant

[@jamesbevan9989]

I judge by the thumbnail with the finger on the trigger.

[@andrewinfosec]

Bit of a milquetoast take tbh. Would be more interesting if you were making an argument for something outside of conventional wisdom.

[@bljdeep]

He seems a lil zesty to me

[@allenhurt02]

You are exactly the person he was hoping to trigger in the beginning 😂

[@bljdeep]

@@allenhurt02 by acting like he is part of the alphabet community ?

[@glefos3917]

Why duty? I thought you were a gamer, not mil or leo.

[@joelpark556]

I’m a slave to appearances and want to have the same gear as my clients.

[@elmer6535]

Serious question.... why would you WANT more recoil? Isn't the goal to shoot your absolute best? If you can put something on your rifle and it helps why not use it?

[@MattWaller04]

He's trolling

[@Mike_Y.]

Mil spec triggers all day.. cheat mode plus blast shield...

[@michaelamos3836]

My GWOT M4 doesn't care.

[@thomasteac8919]

Just to let you know, your gun is set up in the wrong way😮

[@VeloxTrainingGroup]

I’m very annoyed and triggered by this.

[@joelpark556]

@@VeloxTrainingGroup yay! Mission accomplished!

[@putpunt]

Hahahaha. Muzzle break.. shoot faster, straighter, more accurately, not good for duty… hahahah

[@shootinbruin3614]

If you really wanted to practice recoil control (and do it at like 50% the ammo cost), it’s hard to beat a straight blowback AR9 with a solid buffer. With Endo / Exomags, you can even use the same lower and mag pouches

[@JustinTHEmoment22]

Why would you ever put your finger on the trigger if you’re not ready to shoot it.. be disciplined bro

[@joelpark556]

I like living dangerously

[@JustinTHEmoment22]

@@joelpark556I think you spelled dumb wrong😊

[@bruceb9515]

I agree. There are times when a shooter is on target and something changes down range. For example, the range I shoot at weekly in Alaska is visited by both bears and moose. It is common to be shooting at the 1000 yd range or the 300 yd range and suddenly a moose or a bear decides to cross. Seems odd. But these animals are used to gunfire and don't care. 2 times I've been locked in on my target, finger on the trigger, pulled the take up, ready to send it and suddenly a moose appeared behind my target, the other time a brown bear with cubs. So I was able to stop the shot. I hunt a lot. There are countless times I've had the crosshairs on a moose or caribou ready to send it, finger on the trigger and the animal moves before I break the shot. Thus finger is back off the trigger.

[@JustinTHEmoment22]

@@bruceb9515there is always an exception to the rule but doesn’t change the fact

[@bruceb9515]

@JustinTHEmoment22 the fact of what exactly? My fact or your make believe Fudd fact based on zero experience?

[@IfereimiKoroiyale-pw6cl]

Look like three surefire muzzle device, birdcage style for 5$ bucks? BS

[@HerrDoctor-z1m]

Its got to be perdy

[@evanf7334]

I judge peoples rifle when I see holosun optics lol

[@T20-c8f]

This! Yes!

[@michaelj1098]

😂😂😂😂😂 beat me to it

[@AmicusAmici1125]

I judge people who STILL make these comments about people running Holosun. Basement operators who think Reddit “gear tier” credibility is a direct correlation to their own skill

[@evanf7334]

@@AmicusAmici1125 "blah blah blah I simp for china" bro you are literally trying to defend a shell company for the chinese military lol

[@LexPuente]

Gear nerd

[@UrbanDefenseSystems]

If they're civilians... and they have more than a red dot, light, and flash hider, I judge. Not saying you shouldn't be allowed to own IR lasers and all sorts of GBRS crap, its the USA, buy what you want. But come on... lol. The LARP hurts. I'd rather have a lightweight streamlined rifle for home defense or even simple duty use.

[@Letmechill4asec]

So basically what you are trying to tell us is that you are a homosexual? You can just say that bro it's ok...

[@coltonowens2742]

I've got an NV setup and it's primary use is for fun. I've got good old red dot, light, and sling setups to. NV is fun man.

[@UrbanDefenseSystems]

@@coltonowens2742 I don't find it fun, but if you like it, god bless the USA, you have the freedom to enjoy it.

[@MarkWurzler]

@@UrbanDefenseSystemslol so you don’t find being able to shoot with NVGs fun? Lol dude you’re such a dork. Honestly, that’s one of the gayest comments I’ve ever seen on KZbin lmao. Holy shit. “I don’t find it fun” lmao sure thing bubba. Say you can’t afford it and move on. Brokie.

[@masonthorpe7327]

You contradict yourself through this entire video. 1st you say you only use 3/4 prong flash hiders because other muzzle devices don’t provide enough performance to bother with. 2nd you then pivot to how much muzzle brakes reduce recoil and how it can stunt your growth in training as a result. 3rd you say you prefer 2 stage triggers or Mil-spec triggers. HOWEVER!!! 4th Mil-spec triggers are single stage triggers. No thanks. I’ll get my advice and training from someone else. Have a good day!

[@robertos4172]

Agree with everything pretty much, even have that shirt. I do, for some reason, have a hankering to have some jelly beans after watching this though, and that is a bit irritating.

[@redacted_redacted_redacted]

2/10 troll

[@benw4401]

Judges guns…. Has radian safety….

[@unclepepe8318]

Not an A2 flash hider.

[@healthfreak79]

Simple, no nonsense and effective. Thank you.

[@healthfreak79]

Simple, no nonsense and effective. Thank you.