Things to Know BEFORE Buying San Martin BB58 Tudor Homage! - Full Review

[@Zpzpzzzqqwwf]

I can't take this watch off my wrist since getting my hands on this exact timepiece.the finish is brilliant... The brush finish on the side of the case is perfect better than polish look. It fits perfect on my wrist and the bracelet is very comfortable because of the taper from 20mm to 16mm. This watch is staying in our collection forever

[@ShinyThings]

Thanks for sharing! 🙂👍

[@CanadianBeachcomber]

This might be the first watch I am going to buy only because I see that other people have bought it (and liked it). Good review.

[@erickm6134]

San Martin went all out on this watch. The Perfect Homage, spared no expense for real!!!!

[@durandsimon5221]

Very impressive, all of the boxes are ticked: sapphire crystal, thin case, ceramic bezel, good movement, nice finishing, good QC. Honnestly, I don't mind paying more for such a beauty. Totally worth it. And you if you want an even betetr price, just wait for 11.11 sales. Take my money San Martin!! :-)

[@ShinyThings]

@Durand Simon, Thanks for sharing! 🙂 I don't think you need to wait that long, there are def flash sales in March and in June 😊 The link is in the description 😊 👍

[@RicardoValdes-r6w]

Excellent thorough review with great details of the watch by San Martin. I have this watch with the black dial and indeed is a nice looking watch. I do recommend this watch to anyone looking for a well designed watch by San Martin. Continue to do as you do in your program with the great reviews without the hype that others tend to present. Thank you for the presentation that you provide that is exceptionally well done. 👍

[@ShinyThings]

Thank you for watching! 🙂👍

[@johnc1378]

Gorgeous watch, excellent review. Looks like my 5th San Martin watch will be in the mail soon.

[@johnkollias6782]

A very good looking Tudor homage with some of it's own style as well. Can't go wrong with the price either. Good video.

[@degenerateWA]

beautiful review, very well done. I'm considering the blue version right now, just need to wait for my bank account to catch up to my watch purchasing 😁

[@aussie8114]

Thanks for the video, it helps in decision making. I do find it humorous that people complain about the cost when there’s so many really average watches costing a lot more. The total package that this watch presents is just exceptional value. This watch could be worn with pride knowing you have one of the best finished watches available. I’m just trying to learn to accept the snowflake hand before placing my order.

[@ShinyThings]

Thanks for watching!

[@the_9ent]

Great in depth review. I love it. As I have 6.5 inch wrists I would have preferred female end links. But other than that this watch is amazing.

[@ShinyThings]

@The Gent, Thanks for sharing! 🙂👍

[@TheBoldHairspring]

Worth it, I got the blue one and I think it's gorgeous. I also own a Tudor BB and it's my all time favourite watch.

[@paultollervey2635]

Are you planning a review of the blue San Martin SN008? I can only find reviews of the black version, but it’s the blue that I’m interested in. How does the colour compare to the BB58 and do the bezel and face match well?

[@spifis]

Bravo, pleasant, in depth and exhaustive, continue your great work.

[@ShinyThings]

@Adrian Albu, Many thanks! 🙂👍

[@derekhicks8250]

Gorgeous watch, reasonably priced for what your getting, love everything except the long end links. Won't stop me from buying it however :)

[@emilpopov4736]

I think it would have looked much better if they had put a bezel with a matte finish

[@possumsam2189]

I own a SN040G-2 so trust me when I say this. A bezel with matte finish would make the watch look boring, especially with a matte dial. It would look like a complete tool watch, which most people aren't looking for in a San Martin.

[@Thexcalibur]

And they did!!

[@WillyMcCoy50]

WoW!! Mine just came in today! Blue PT5000! What a freekin nice piece! I would have to say it communicates more than just seconds, minutes and hours. It exudes symmetry, beauty and mass appeal!!

[@ShinyThings]

Couldn't agree more!

[@PaulewingStHelens]

When you see what you get from seiko for double the price or even more I think you're getting good value for money from San Martin.

[@kws4e]

Exactly. Is it expensive for an AliExpress watch? For sure. But is it expensive for a watch with that level of fit and finish with a PT5000 or even a Sellita SW200 in it? No, it isn't. It kind if is a steal for what it is. San Martin really redefines what value in the affordable watch world means. They are the new refference.

[@stevetownsend1389]

I completely agree. Comparing this San Martin watch against the price point of a Seiko of similar specs clearly illustrates that Seiko is primarily interested in their profit margins. I love Seiko, but I feel like I'm getting played with their new releases.

[@frankdux6930]

Seiko cant really compete at this level.

[@TheShotenZenjin]

I think Seiko vs Chinese brands is similar to iPhone vs Android. Android phones usually offer a lot more, technically and functionally than Apple, but the iPhone has its devoted followers and a strong reputation for its reliability. As a consequence, the resale value of an iPhone is usually twice that of its Android equivalent. This could well be the same with Seiko. In fact, some particular Seiko models can be resold above their rrp! Having said that, I love my own San Martin watch and have no intention of flipping it!

[@barryhearn8627]

You are, but unfortunately thwy dont have the brand prestige.

[@Dylboz]

As soon as there's a decent sale (11/11 or Black Friday?) I will be getting one. Although I know it's not there in the Tudor BB58, I wish they'd create a version with a 6 o'clock date & colormatched date wheel. That would make it absolute perfection in my eyes.

[@davidperkins605]

Think it's a no brainer, it's a fantastic watch, given the slimmer height and great quality.

[@karlsenula9495]

San Martin if you are listening Sinn homage (U50 or U1) or a Damasko.

[@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm]

I like it I’m just having a lot of issues with spending over 300 on homage. I’m warming up to the PT 5000… I have a watch with one in it and it is quite nice… I am going to purchase a San Martin very soon but not this one…I went with the sumo homage… It’s large but I think I can pull it off with a 7 1/2 wrist. Thanks for a great review!

[@1SaG]

I haven't seen it in the flesh, but from what you show and what I've seen in other videos, I'd say San Martin are typically about the same quality as if not better quality than Steinhart. And since I own five Steinharts, I can comment on their quality and thus qualify my comparison as a pretty big compliment to San Martin. ATM, there are only two things that hold me back from buying this watch or SM's 38mm retro-diver: 1. Three of my Steinharts (39mm OVM, 39mm Vintage GMT Pepsi, 39mm "Marine Blue" Tudor homage) scratch pretty much exactly the same itch as the two SMs . And I'm having trouble already giving my current retro-watches enough wrist-time. 2. The end-links on this BB homage seem to protrude way too far beyond the lugs, especially for a 40mm case. I have a 6.75 inch/17cm wrist which can *just* pull off a 42mm Steinhart - but those have female end-links. So I fear this one might look a bit odd on me - at least on its bracelet.

[@ShinyThings]

@1SaG Thank you for sharing! 🙂👍 Always good to hear from someone with a hands on experience with the product! 🙂

[@jgirata2240]

I purchased V2 of this watch after seeing yours and other videos reviewing it (female end links, no bolts on bracelet). I can only tell you the quality of all elements of it are on a par, or superior, to watches I own that are considerably more expensive. That includes a Breitling Superocean Heritage, Steinhart, Zelos, Mido and several Seikos. The operation of the bezel, quality and longevity of the lume and overall finishing are exceptional. Mine has operated well within COSC standards (prox 2spd slow) and is a Timegrapher star, with negligible rate variances and beat error and an amplitude in all positions of 240 to over 300 deg. Not sure what else you can ask of a watch, so I consider the $330 price (PT5000 variant) an absolute bargain and easily the best value for price of all the 30+ watches I own. It remains to be seen how the watch holds up over time, esp the PT5000 movement, but I am very pleased with this purchase and will look at San Martin first for any affordable watches I'm considering

[@ADcrackerjack]

Link for that? Please...

[@emberkedves6330]

Best watch ever! (For me)

[@neilba1]

I think the value is very fair actually....this is better made than a Glycine in my opinion.

[@Nerdferly]

I have 4 squale watches, and my cheapest, the 1545 black dial rolex homage I'm 100% sure has better quality assurance. But, I'm still a fan of this one and on the fence to pull the trigger and get it.

[@udojager2673]

It is always a pleasure to see your reviews. You're doing a good job. The watch makes an good impression. In Europe, however, there are also customs and taxes. This means, that the price of the watch is close to that of a Steinhart.

[@ShinyThings]

@Udo Jäger, Thanks for sharing! 🙂 Yes, totally agree, they are entering a very competitive price segment. And, even though I believe San Martin's lume is far better, Steinhart still has the 'magic' words 'swiss made' on the dial 🙂 Although clearly viewers of this channel have a strong SM preference 😊

[@Tangylives]

@@ShinyThings Honesty once I start looking at the Steinhart price bracket, I just sort of lose interest. I always feel like I'm just settling for "good enough" in that price range. Yet at the same time if I get two or three of these "good enough " watches, suddenly I'm in the same price segment as a used Oris or Rado. This is the same reason I don't have many microbrand watches. There needs to be something special that makes stand out from the crowd.

[@trigger4616]

Have a look at the octopus kraken version i think you will be pelasantly suprised

[@Trex100]

I think it looks AMAZING.

[@Trex100]

The gold markings and numbers on the bezel look much brighter (more golden) than on the original BB58. I am wondering if you would consider the San Martin to be more "blingy". I really like it, but perhaps the Tudor is a more subtle look?

[@sinesaii]

I bought one. If is fantastic. The is my second San Martin. I paid $200 each. They are fabulous. San Martin is filling the space Seiko left. I e we oils love to see them make an SKX and SARB. They would own the sun-$400 market.

[@georgekirala1514]

That watch is gorgeous.

[@Buck380]

If they made it 39mm I’d buy it today. If the also had female end links I’d buy both colors today.

[@paultollervey2635]

Thanks for the review. Has anybody reviewed the blue version of this watch? I am interested in the colour match between the bezel and the face and how close the blue is to the Tudor.

[@karlsenula9495]

I've only seen reviews of the black.

[@quality_times]

really good review, my friend. I really like this one - would love to see the blue one as well. I just wish they would either do a: matt black dial and matt black bezel OR a piano black dial and a glossy bezel :-)

[@brantisonfire]

We need to put emphasis on the PT5000 options being offered by the micro brands. It’s a great movement and would be great in an entry level San Martin.

[@Evo7154]

Amazing watch!

[@ShinyThings]

@E. I., Agreed! 😊👍

[@amarsh212]

I just hate that logo and the logo delete makes it look like somethings missing

[@1myunderscore]

Custom logos are probably available, they are for their other divers

[@Elcoonn]

the logo is fire lol

[@BCallum]

I like the watch, still not a fan of that bracelet. Well, the quality of the bracelet looks amazing, I just do not like those rivets in the side of it. That clasp!!! Is very nice. Thanks for the review!!

[@johnmuthan286]

Never liked those rivets either, and then I have realized that once you have the watch on your wrist, you barely get to see them as when you look at your watch, your sight is never in a angle that would allow you to notice them.

[@laurentb7351]

👌i'm waiting for the GMT version ! 😊

[@karlroberts580]

Next on the wish list. Stunning

[@johnholkham2420]

This bracelet will need all the screws to be fixed with thread lock ( low grip) these small screws always work out . All the screws will need removing and rethreading with Screw Thread to lock screws in. Screw thread was provided with watch. I had a similar WatchGecko bracelet which was very prone to screws dropping out. These screws are very hard to use as they are tiny and easy to loose. Other than this the bracelet is very good.

[@canadianwatchmonkey3992]

Nice very detailed review.

[@ShinyThings]

Thanks!

[@andrewmain8022]

The Pt 5000 version of this watch looks to be way better value but even it is a bit overpriced. I would wait for the novelty to wear off before buying. I think that $250 to $260 would be about right.

[@ShinyThings]

@Andrew Main, thank you for sharing 🙂👍 It would be interesting to see if the price stays the same in a long run.

[@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls]

It's a little expensive for a San martin and in an awkward space at that price. I can get a hamilton (used) or something like a vintage credor or maybe even grand seiko

[@oguzbenice7423]

How is the blue color? Looks to me bright and shiny...

[@jamescarter7663]

Great looking watch and great review 😊 how have you gotten on with the movement long term? I have heard that pt5000 can sometimes have issues with hand winding due to lubrication issues.

[@Sturmtruppe1997]

finaly no NH35

[@VenerableYorge]

F A N T A S T I C ! ! !

[@lucasphillips2852]

8:42 that polishing is causing some cool effects with the hour hand

[@jims4539]

Thanks for the video - nice looking watch but my one and only New Year Resolution was no new watches over 40mm. I have the PT5000 in a Cronos watch and like it's performance - do you know if the PT5000 manufacture offers a chronometer version? I would pay the higher price for that specification even before I'd pay a similar price for the SW200.

[@ShinyThings]

@Jim S, Thanks for your comment 🙂 My understanding is that the watches with the PT5000 can be chronometer certified, however HKPT (the manufacturer of the PT5000 movement) does not offer a specific "chronometer certification-ready" movement like Sellita SW200-2 at this point.

[@davidbarclay3651]

Now they claim they have sent it back with no indication that they have fixed it.

[@EllasPOSEiDON]

San Martin. Please, diver watch with dive extension only. Please. How can I put it on over my vetsuit?

[@Dirtywesterner]

if san martin made a more subtle logo this would be hard to beat

[@voiceofexperience]

SM is getting a bit expensive now.

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

San Martin makes nice watches and nice watches cost more money. I just seen that Pagani design is making a tutor homage and it only cost $150. They have a bunch of colors including a vintage style like the one in this video. That's what I like about AliExpress, there is always a selection of similar looking watches at different prices. As long as you remember you get what you pay for.

[@dinner_workingsly]

Well, the real deal is over $3k more than this….and everyone with an extra $3700 has bought a BB58 now, so this makes more sense to me. I hate the hype train and I’m more than ok with Tudor not getting my money. I love when people say that this is taking away from tudor…..well hell yeah it is, and good on anyone for doing so. No one owes Tudor anything….just like no one owes it to Walmart to shop there.

[@Tangylives]

I wouldn't buy the vintage colourway...I hate the shiny bezel with the vintage lume and dial. The vintage lume is really yellow as well. The blue one? That one I quite like, but for the money they are asking I can't defend the ghost date at all.

[@Polyshot]

I think it's time for San Martin to move ahead and came up with something original in terms of design.

[@LCMNUNES1962]

EXCELENTE RELÓGIO 👍👍👍 🇧🇷

[@leehall8830]

Am tempted by this is blue. Looks fantastic ! Do you think this will be in a sale soon ( at the moment it’s 326 dollars with the new female end link upgrade )

[@ShinyThings]

11-11 (11-November) Sale is coming soon and it is usually the largest sale of the year on AliExpress with most aggressive discounts. Hope this helps and good luck! 🙂👍

[@leehall8830]

@@ShinyThings Thankyou! I will keep a lookout on your channel and the sale

[@colorist_tommy4247]

when you get these homage watches on your hand, you immediately ask What was the big deal with the original? ALL that "prestige' etc and they perform to the +- 2sec/day. why did I get conned with the original.... Publicity. Glossy magazine adverts. Glitzy and slick actors posing with the watch.

[@Moudmenn]

Any issues with pt5000?

[@itamaradio]

Nice homage. But 4 things I would prefer to be different: 1. They could have skipped the fake rivets on the bracelet. 2. The Bezel is flat and shiny. A little bit of angle and less reflectiveness on it would make it look a lot nicer. 3. Logo is too big 4. The sides are brushed, not polished. In my opinion a polished side would be nicer, like the original BB58.

[@CHRiSQ_XIII]

If this watch had a date window, I would buy it without any hesitation. I wonder if San Martin will ever make a homage to Omega Seamaster. Do You know anything about it ?

[@ShinyThings]

@CHRiSQ, Thanks for your comment! 🙂 I am not aware of SM Seamaster homage plans, I bet it would be a good one though if they make it 🙂 I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the Phylida Seamaster homage I reviewed recently - with PT5000 and DATE window 🙂 it is priced at $173 and the quality is pretty good - here is the review video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apinpZRqeriaZ5o Hope this helps and good luck! 🙂👍

[@marekmusil880]

Does Fedex deliver the watch? Or there is no such option for San Martin watches?

[@johnmuthan286]

DHL I think, they have a fast delivery with tracking solution for sure. I just can't remember which one

[@SoapAcademy]

How does the bracelet feel on the wrist?

[@eurabio]

The SN004 version is 46 lug to lug but it's 13.3 thick. Which one do you think has a better fit to your wrist? I ask because I have the exact same wrist size. Cheers.

[@Zzzzalazar]

San martin make a homage of the Sinn 501 i

[@joeyben2733]

On your 7 inch wrist how many links removed cause I got 7 inch wrist ?

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

The BB58m being a 39mm and having "female" end-links, slides quite easily if worn even a tad lose. From my experience with the SM sub homage, the male links provide a better sitting on the wrist. Of course, eventually, it depends on wrist circumference. Thank you for the review. I'm really curious about the blue version as that one doesn't have the yellow lume markers, which, I think, it makes it look better. I'm disappointed they haven't thrown in a quick adjust. I might have bought the blue version, if that was the case, as I really struggle with the Tudor not having that.

[@СергейМалушко]

Спасибо за русские субтитры!👍

[@davemck1887]

As with most San Martin watches there's a lot to like but I just cannot stand their logo. I just fail to see how '1960's cartoon hippie script' has a place on a homage to a serious timepiece. Everything else seems so beautifully serious. Maybe it's just me. Great review sir, very thorough.

[@CanadianBeachcomber]

The logo does look like something I would have drawn with a ruler in grade nine art class.

[@ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣΠΑΠΑΔΑΚΗΣ-ν4ο]

Price is not a problem, i think the watch is worth the extra money for the quality it packs. Their logo is too large and its aesthetic kind of funny, unsuitable for a serious watch brand. The main problem is the bracelet with those rediculus fake rivets that i also hate on the original Tudors. I think the male endlinks overextend. Female links would make it much more balanced and wearable for most people. San Martin is on a good path, if they listen to what people need, we will see very interesting things from them.

[@Watchatete]

With the original Tudor becoming available from ADs only the price benefit can make the San Martin attractive. Or does it? If the original Swiss watch was not available as rhe Rolex 1016 Explorer, I would agree. But Tuder with inhouse movement Swiss made for only 10x the price of San Mertin makes this model useless for the watch lover.

[@jonirwin7316]

Thanks for disclosing a paid promotion. YT says it's mandatory.

[@alessandropierfelice4728]

san martin has gone premium and pagani design is the next.

[@stavrose]

This watch would be near perfect with a better logo, matte bezel insert and bracelet without rivets

[@vitalijwertys7250]

Спасибо за русские субтитры)

[@carlosjauregui8047]

DO NOT BUY. Beware! I like the look of the watch. The problem is that barely a month after I received it it started making a horrible noise every time I tried to wind it. Aliexpress does not allow returns after 15 days and the communication with the seller is null thereafter. When you buy from the San Martin store on Aliexpress, you lose money. The movement PT5000 is garbage

[@manuelnegrete2168]

This San Martin spinoff is very nice but it is a homage watch at the end of the day. At this price point I can buy for example a Hamilton Khaki King which is an original from a highly respected maker. I flip my watches over time and a chinese homage is pretty much worthless for flipping. I am much more comfortable in buying the San Martin 6200 if zi went in that direction. Because it is Chinese has no bearing in my thinking. I already have a Seagull 1963 and am very happy with it. My feelng is if San Martin wants to go upscale they need to branch off from Alli Express to be taken seriously.........

[@pr4photos]

The watch is too long for me. Anything over 50mm is too long. I don't understand why they have done that

[@commentjedi]

Good review! Don't like SM new look......like a Steeldive homage. Too flat. Too shiny. Too blocky. Single-dome crystal. I think the Heimdallr sea ghost is the best watch under $350. The shapes, the textures, the colors, and it’s only $210! (But I know it has some issues)

[@genaishivatov1737]

The trick of Tudor BB is in the proportions of the case - at 41mm they have a bracelet 22mm wide. This adds brutality and charisma to the watch. And San Martin released a simple watch.

[@MrPINKFL0YD]

I would not buy it due to the appalling customer service. In the UK we have to pay 20%tax and duty on it which I can buy a watch from a good known company, not a small Chinese one..

[@samwang5831]

Quality is expensive. There is no way around it.

[@trp6062]

I think, San Martin needs to change their brand logo, its really really poor design and a aesthetic destroyer to their watches!

[@warszcau]

Nice watch , chinese hommage watches are almost always way off with dimensions

[@wristcandy5451]

Male end links spoil it for me

[@vincentko88]

Need to fix their logo on the watch face

[@ATIWatchReviews]

It's overpriced compared to Pagani and Parnis, but still not terrible.

[@possumsam2189]

The lume, better fit & finish, bezel action, bracelet and 28,800 bph movement more than makes up for the price difference.

[@stevelufc64]

Maybe more expensive but quality wise they knock parnis and co for 6 I have the datejust by them and the quality is that of a far more expensive watch better in my opinion than tissot at 2 to 3 times the price

[@AyBi_Studio]

If you've had a San Martin and a Pagani Design watches, you'd know that the differences are huge. I've bought 2 submariner PD watches - the 1st 43mm was decenet but had it's flaws. I sold it and got the new 41mm which was awful! Bezel action, bracelet etc lack some serious QC work. Then I got the San Martin water ghost and it's another level, even considering the pretty small price deferences. SM feels more solid and the machine work is very good. Bezel works amazing, just like my Steinhart ocean one and WAY better than my Seiko sport. 5. Bracelet is done properly including the clasp, and the lume is amazing! You get what you pay for... I'd never buy PD again when I know that for a bit more I could get SM. I enjoy wearing it even when I have the ocean one and Breitling colt in my collection.

[@AyBi_Studio]

Still waiting for San Martin to switch back to a normal logo. It just breaks the elegance of this piece.

[@Trapper50cal]

Round indices...fail. Do not pass go...do not collect $200.

[@lapomazza5635]

Who CAN EVER buy a HOMAGE??? I DONT GET IT 😂😂😂

[@hugedickerinokripperino5299]

6:33 ICE!