Things we STRUGGLED with in Japan (Collab with Summer Sensei!) / 日本で苦労したこと（サマー先生とのコラボ動画！）Dōgen

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[@SummerSensei]

Thanks again for having me, Dogen-san! Despite your modesty, your knowledge of Japanese is truly awe-inspiring!

[@edenromanov]

She's using that Japanese Compliment even in the comments ... kowai 😱

[@SoloMonYamashita-Hermit]

@@edenromanov HAHAHA

[@Dogen]

My pleasure Summer! Wait... is this 相手を立てる文化？

[@BenjiSun]

Is it truly full of awe? as they say? 😉

[@_S_B_S_]

@@Dogen そうだと思います.

[@demonicflame632]

Why did i even think this was gonna be an actual struggles video, knowing dogen i should have expected this tbh

[@pokechatter]

That’ll probably be the next video.

[@TheHadMatters]

He baited you with the Actual Japanese Lesson in the previous upload.

[@lookoutknockhead]

I opened the video and saw it was 2:50 long. I knew there would be a punchline.

[@manuelmed98]

happens to me everytime

[@kcolloran]

だよね！

[@notBrie]

Summer sensei is like a military doctor. She can break every bone in your body while naming them.

[@didjaseemyjams1582]

Watson, is that you?

[@Greideren]

Lol I would totally love to see a villain or anti hero doing that.

[@infernox1099]

Dogen: "In english please?" Summer: *some obscure word* Dogen: "Maybe in Japanese, might know it better like that"

[@kristir1262]

This! Deserves more upvotes. I thought this was the best part of this absolutely hilarious piece 😂

[@burningadri6775]

It was especially funny to me after just having had an English phonology class.

[@SpectatorAlius]

But the words were not so obscure. They are standard phonetic terms likely to be used in class to describe Japanese phonetics. Yet Dogen pretended not to know them in either language.

[@tomstonemale]

@@SpectatorAlius /whoosh

[@Jambobist]

@@SpectatorAlius What is this thing you humans call 'humor'?

[@makudonarudokairu]

I liked the subtle "oh we're showing off our Japanese in this video... I can keep up with that!" from Dogen after Summer-sensei kept using Japanese while he was using English.

[@clankb2o5]

Sure, Dougen's voiceless bilabial fricatives may be somewhat off, but his voiced close front unrounded vowels with a pulmonically eggressive airstream are spot-on!

[@Hemdael]

They're trying to talk to me, I know it...

[@quankhanh8533]

now you're just making up words man XD

[@Jambobist]

That's all very well, but you're overlooking the fact that he's 上手.

[@Broockle]

if i knew Japanese well enough to worry about those phonetic terms... 😂

[@seneca983]

@@Broockle Basically: voiceless bilabial fricative = f close front unrounded vowel = i These should be pretty easy to get right even if you don't know any Japanese.

[@icanfly5964]

Dogen does the worst click baits ever. I watch his video because I'm genuinely interested in what the title suggests, and the video has absolutely nothing to do with the title but somehow I end up smiling in the end 🙂

[@takanara7]

Eh, it had the opposite affect on me. I actually skipped this video b/c it sounded boring, only came back and watched after getting サマー先生's video rec'd in the algorithm then watching it, then going back to look up this one - and found out it was actually funny.

[@user-tn7lf6oc1v]

サマー先生のいつもの動画と違ってドーゲンさんとのやりとりが凄く面白い。

[@yutakayoshikawa2386]

いやぁ〜、こういう知的なお笑い好きだわ〜！！シリーズ化してほしいくらい。😄

[@hoshi-15]

She really just body slammed Dogen with a "I went to Tokyo University and then went to Stanford." Summei sensei please, he's already down!

[@user-og6ks6tb9n]

サマー先生、マジで知的だなあ。演技うまいからひやひやした

[@CJUGames]

Gave me a good giggle 😁

[@thairinkhudr4259]

Chris watches Dogen! Hi Chris! 😊

[@paultuck]

When Summer-sensei was talking Japanese and Dogen-sensei was still talking in English I was like, "Ehh? Is this the unspoken signal for comedy?" Dogen-sensei teaching us to read the air! Also I love the part where Dogen-sensei is like "I must be native level, I get Jouzo'd by all the natives."

[@mistseeker388]

Dogen being roasted for his japanese is priceless, lol. If only "nihongo jouzu" was dropped in the end - that would be an icing on the cake :D

[@distinctloafer]

Nah that would be overusing the joke.

[@abcmusicman1]

Nihongo jouzu doesn't have to be explicitly said, the whole video is literally based on the nihongo jouzu premise. So the joke is still there

[@herpdederp6186]

Ah, gotta love Dougen's self-depreciating humour.

[@frozenbean]

The most critical videos about Dogen's Japanese are the ones he makes himself.

[@deathtoyoutubeandtwitterbu5865]

I think I need to switch from Dogen sensei to Summer Sensei, Dogen is obviously a hack :^)

[@pahoopahoo]

Dogen sensei KO'd. この番組でのコラボ回を見る度に道元先生のことが好きになってしまう。 道元先生の日本語に対して一番厳しいのは道元先生自身である。

[@revenanke3132]

All conversations between non-natives speaking Japanese should devolve into measuring each other's linguistic power levels.

[@holliswilliams8426]

why?

[@Gorpinster]

Just for anyone curious, the "voiceless bilabial fricative" in the joke at the end is the 'f' sound in Japanese which is not present in the English phonetic inventory (/ϕ/ vs /f/), and the best way I can explain it to those not versed in ling jargon is that it's the sound you get when you are blowing piece of lint off your phone screen. Also yes, that does mean that the joke at the end is basically translated as "your 'f' sounds are effed up."

[@thorbergson]

Hahah I knew what the sound was, but the joke has just gone woosh over my head

[@wakabe052]

こんにちは！ サマー先生のチャンネルから来ました。 やり取りめちゃくちゃ面白かったです😆会話が全部理解できないのが悔しい

[@boiboi7717]

I actually love that Dogen includes the guests into his bits-- it's a much more engaging way of showing the audience the new talent and people in the Japanese KZbin sphere. Keep it up guys! Hilarious as always!!

[@komeuto8225]

I'm from Japan and a viewer of Ms. Summer. Actually, Japanese both of them speak is much better than my Japanese. Their Japanese is good enough for me to learn Japanese from them. I'm looking forward to your next youtube!

[@Mikeztarp]

I enjoyed this on a third level: I know all the phonetics vocabulary she used in English, but not in my native language (and certainly not in Japanese; I'm not jouzu yet). I'm French but I did an English major so most classes were in English. ^^

[@Exilum]

I more or less get it in English, but not in French too. The thing is, I do most things, includung conlanging as a hobby, in English. Didn't have any studies for that though, so while I might get what you're talking about, I'd never be able to associate these words to their sound without wikipedia out.

[@mukundbalasubramanian1229]

Same here, but with Indian regional languages.

[@shachah_svaahaa]

1:51 「日本には相手を立てる文化があるんですが、ご存知でしょうか？」 切れ味の鋭い知的な皮肉に思わず噴き出してしまいましたｗ もちろん、Dogenさんの発音は「とってもお上手」ですよ（ニッコリ）

[@alexamderhamiltom5238]

summer sensei : "pre-palatal affricates" me : "eigo jouzu" summer sensei,now you are mine.

[@RimoYoko]

OMG, I love this one! Mounting competition!

[@taylorallred6208]

Dogen on the verge of losing it but holding it together is my favorite Dogen

[@yowo6105]

as a linguistics student who hopes to specialize in japanese phonology and syntax i think this was very funny

[@maedasyk]

豪華なコラボでした！

[@hokieham]

Really…..as someone who is just starting the learning process again(after having two years of college Japanese 20 + years ago and proving the “if you don’t use it, you lose it” saying) this is rapidly becoming my favorite channel.😂😂😂

[@user-kz3vj2nq1o]

1:58 「博士号、とかですか？」 This Summer is so mean😂

[@nowgaku]

That's why I love Dogen who has something Japanese mind in a way ”相手を立てる”.

[@mimi-tx7mk]

スゴく面白かった😃メチャ豪華な夢のコラボ😍

[@arielasentista6637]

本当に面白いですね！もっともっと！

[@johnvienna3422]

Legit genuinely actually literally laughing out loud right now.

[@Babi1st]

i seriously wanted to know what kind of things you struggled in japan, aight then, keep your secrets

[@thairinkhudr4259]

😂

[@-Raylight]

Dogen might be Nihongo Jouzu but looks like you're not Eigo Jouzu. I mean native english speaker should know about *unvoiced pre-palatal affricates* right? xD Dogen was asking to be roasted at this point, poor Dogen 😂

[@dsch772]

Me, a non-native English and non-native Japanese speaker: wot

[@DerpASherpa117]

@@dsch772 if you've never studied phonetics what she said sounds like gibberish. Essentially, it describes how the sound is made via whether it is voiced or not (i.e., if the glottis is partially closed it's voiced, if open it's voiceless; you can check this by putting your fingers to your throat and saying /p/ and /b/, where the latter will vibrate when you say it while the former won't, as /b/ is voiced), where in the mouth it occurs (in this case, "pre-palatal" means just after the alveolar ridge behind your frontal incisors and before the velum, the soft palate at the roof of your mouth) and the quality of the airstream (in this case, an "affricate" is a combination of a plosive, or an abrupt stoppage of the airstream like in /p/ or /d/ in conjunction with a fricative or continuous, slightly turbulent airflow like in /s/ and /z/).

[@syfx1485]

@@DerpASherpa117 I still don't understand, but at least I know I won't be searching it 🤣

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

@@DerpASherpa117 I took a couple of phonetics courses in uni and it still sounds like gibberish to me. Gibberish that's trying to bring back suppressed memories.

[@KittenCritters]

Most people have No clue how their own native language works unless they have studied grammar, phonetics

[@burtondom011]

めっちゃおもしろいｗ サマー先生最強すぎるｗ

[@Dubai2sumitaaaaai]

最高すぎです😂

[@keikoueda4609]

面白かった！

[@rustycage82]

There are levels to Jouzu.

[@NatalieAliciaNorment]

This was hilarious. Thank you!

[@OrangeC7]

She pulled out all the stops when she brought linguistics into the conversation lol

[@dangerbuoy]

I only come across your videos somewhat randomly on my home page but I just want to say how much I appreciate the quality of the comedic work here. This was like a perfectly executed joke! Super impressed!

[@Shige-MeThomLuuly]

This video is really fun to me! I respect both of you because you speak Japanese as native level and made me (a Japanese ) laugh a lot! Thank you for the interesting video!

[@matsuken521]

クオリティが高すぎますね……

[@931koj]

i'm a Japanese but they have sooo natural Japanese more than me

[@okonomikatsu4723]

Don’t worry Dogen, your 上手さ will always be on point. That’s all that matters.

[@kcpisonet]

oh Dogen this is so funny im in tears! i cant even explain the multiple sublime messages conveyed throughout this 2 and a half minutes of intense conversation...

[@user-hp9qr2br2t]

summer先生が言ってたコメディー動画だ このお二人は強わ、常人レベルじゃない！

[@gozzsum3179]

無声歯茎硬口蓋破擦音なんて単語を初めて知りました(笑) 何回か発音したら舌噛みそうです。

[@user-dj1wv1tj1s]

サマー先生めちゃくちゃ秀才やんけ

[@benjaminforman8901]

One of the funniest (at my Japanese level) Dōgen vids I've ever watched! Like watching a pitch-perfect scene from an Anime.

[@aneedforrevolution2193]

I just love the unexpected chaos that ensues Xd

[@thorbergson]

Summer sensei firing on all the guns😅

[@sumyoshi]

こんばんは。あっははははっ！Dogen-san。面白かったです。

[@UnseenMike]

Dogen always brightens my mood =) Thanks

[@JackCoxMSquirrel]

I always ruin the fun of Dōgen videos by checking how long they are before starting.

[@nykchanneru]

久しぶりにがっつり爆笑しました笑

[@basellarubra1495]

もうバイリンガルなだけで2人ともめっちゃカッコイイ…

[@kiriri41]

サマー先生はこんな茶番もできるのか。。すごい。しかも演技上手い（笑）

[@frostyblade8842]

I mus say it's weird yet oddly therapeutic to hear Dogan speak English. It was surprisingly hard to tell if this was a scripted skit or a regular conversation, though I suppose I should have expected as much from Dogen

[@flopauillem]

It’s okay Dogen, your Japanese will always be 上手さ

[@thecheckm8689]

I know this is a skit, but Dogens japanese is much better pronounciation and in general wise than Ms.Summer. I can tell when she speaks, that japanese is her second language, as it sounds quite bit forced and unnatural, but comprehension wise would have no problem. Dogens Japanese sounds native as if he grew up here. So its a bit weird in this set up, how they play almost opposite roles as Dogen clearly has more experience in the language.

[@yamasa0607]

こりゃまた最強コンビですね〜 サマー先生の真顔、美しく、そして怖い... またコラボしてほしいです☻

[@Toyota86761]

めっちゃおもしろい

[@caiohdkr]

didn't expect that. i want more!

[@jjz109390gt]

日本人でも電話で話してたら、気づかないレベル。サマー先生のクールな指摘が魅力的。ドーゲンさんとのコラボ続きが見たいです。

[@RoySieh]

A video featuring my other favorite KZbin teacher. What a lovely (and hilarious) surprise!

[@user-hp7si9lk6j]

お二人とも素敵な発音で大好き！

[@TioDeive]

Wonderful vídeo!

[@Lewmzi]

Summer Sensei could nihongo jouzu locals and get away with it

[@ganndalf202]

I'm sorry Dogen, we all love you but your guest is amazing and I love her so much.

[@ryushogun9890]

I felt like it was boss time.

[@systemverilog4727]

Wow, understanding IPA actually really helps me understand this train of conversation.

[@InfectedAdri]

This is excellent 🤣 but now I'm curious about her friend in Saitama...

[@bensymes1876]

早稲田からの東大からのスタンフォードだと？！学歴すごすぎませんかこの人？普通に羨ましいな（笑）

[@henrym.2809]

Dogen: why do I hear boss music

[@user-is3bm7ei9f]

さすがのDogenさんも今回は相手が凄すぎた。wwwwww

[@ykhi]

wow dogens english is really good

[@Clayjar444]

This is VERY funny, I laughed out loud and I don't even understand japanese!

[@makeupbykaelin]

She went straight for the jugular lmao “I have some tips before we get started”

[@doggypi1532]

So very technical... If she became my teacher I'd probably be scared to actually ask questions lol~

[@kcpisonet]

if she will be my teacher i'd probably change my course asap to avoid her, she can disintegrate your soul in 3 minutes... just with words... and without blinking...

[@paulj6805]

If she was my teacher I'd be fluent in a week

[@kcpisonet]

@@paulj6805 hahaha Dogen a Jouzu didnt last 3 minutes ^_^

[@terrancenightingale1749]

@@paulj6805 If she was my teacher I would arrive to my first class fluent just to escape her wrath

[@user-mx3wx6wu4e]

Dogen-san is processing his Japanese pronunciation complexes through art

[@pdfbanana]

This is the most English I've ever heard Dogen speak

[@Archedgar]

0:28 She went to the same university as Doggo. Naisu.

[@Yenrei]

He might lose a battle of obscure Japanese words or a fraction of his viewers to Summer-sensei, but there's one thing Dogen always keeps. HIS JOUZUNESS!!!

[@ggs5097]

I really loved this episode , it interesting 😊

[@weeklyfascination]

OK, that gave me a good laugh! Thanks for a fun video.

When I heard Tom from Pachinko I immediately remembered how 日本語上手 Dogen really is 🤣

[@TheSquishySnail]

So much fun to watch!

[@vargsvansify]

Wow, Summer Sensei sure got the 上手 in this conversation.

[@user-ne2kl4vd2s]

これ最高に笑ったwwwww またやってください

[@skritterjake]

This does not seem like a normal Dōgen vid I'm used t..oh, they're good 😂😂😂

[@CompanionCorbs]

Dogen-style comedy is a fantastic niche. “No thanks, my japanese is just fine 😤”

[@rons3634]

Okay, she was hilarious.

[@hannaheveleen2137]

this was so much better than i was expecting it to be

[@JPCLASS]

ありがとうございます。

[@daegraith6524]

Loved how meta this video can be XD

[@rrr.8]

チ：無声歯茎硬口蓋破擦音 unvoiced pre-palatal affricate ラ行：歯茎はじき音 alveolar tap フ：無声両唇摩擦音 voiceless bilabial fricative OMG I remembered my painful phonetics class...