Things you need to consider first when choosing your wing board size and volume

Tech Talk: Things you need to consider first when choosing your wing board size and volume
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From this new studio we’re going to record a whole bunch of new videos and new Tech Talks, starting with this one today, which is something of a returning subject: And it’s about volume in wing boards.
0:50 Advancing thoughts on wing board volume
1:10 What to avoid when choosing the right wing board volume
1:40 Things you need to consider first when choosing your wing board size
3:00 What is the right size for a freestyle wing board?
3:32 The advantages of a sinker style board
4:44 How does board shape affect volume choice?
7:10 We would love your input

[@ricopo3522]

I think you've given really sound, applicable advice regarding a complex subject. Different local conditions w/ wind, chop, current, swell, different rider weight, age, ability, different foils, different styles- freestyle, free-ride, surf, downwind. There are so many variables, it is impossible to consider them all with a one size fits all answer. The best one can do is provide things for the rider to consider making their choice, give general starting point which you've done. For the rider wanting to pin it down exactly..... demo, demo, demo.

[@appletreesurfboards]

thanks. cannor agree more. This is probabaly not the last video on the subject either :)

[@foilyfish]

Appletree, please adjust the volume of your music it is sooo loud compared to the volume of speaking on video. Our ears will thank you.

[@as_the_dodo_do]

The best board is the one under your feet ;) Lekker info Wieger! Keep em coming bru.

[@roamwarrior]

I'm 84 kg and was riding a 62.5 L Jazz. It was a little corky at my weight, but I rode it for almost a year, and really enjoyed it. I recently switched the 50L AppleSkipper and for me it was a gamechanger It took some adjustment initially and I found myself sizing up my hand wing to make sure I had sufficient power to get up. Now that I've been riding it a couple of weeks, I can getup riding without having to size up my hand wing. I ride it with the Armstrong MA1000 with winds from 13-22 knots, 3.6m hand wing. Absolutely loving this board!

[@appletreesurfboards]

Thanks Cris! sounds like you found your match!

[@nicoduvivier1561]

I would like a sinker board, but the lake I’m riding is very shallow (max 1,5 dept) an to be able to ride i have to walk in the water for approximately 10-15 min to be able to start with 55 cm Mast and a semi Senker (70 kg - 70 L). Nice review 👍🏻

[@appletreesurfboards]

that is a whole other issue you have there :) then a floating board makes total sense.

[@obx_foiler]

You guys have a great range of boards for varying conditions. What are your thoughts on the downsized downwind boards for winging? Like the Amos Shapes Sultan Wing, or Kalama E3 Wing/Prone/Downwind? A wing board for lighter winds that is floaty but not as big/long as a downwind board? I have a Jazz 62.5 but want to add another board better for lighter winds that has more volume than my weight. Keep up the great work and all the videos 😎

[@appletreesurfboards]

Hi! thanks for the comment. We are expirimenting with these boards, at the moment we already have smaller DW boards in the range. we can always downsize them more as a custom order, to fit your needs. Just send us an email and we can make it happen!

[@franpinyol8500]

Hi, what do you think about the new trend of hybrid boards based on DW in more compact shapes as "single board" ? ie the Amos Sultan Wing or the Sunova Carve ?

[@FoilWays]

I've been riding a 62L at 83kg for the last two years and love it. I ride it in everything. Even in 10-15 knots, I seem to have no problems getting it going. I also have a Pro Foil V2 34L, but my experience prone is limited, even though I've surfed all my life. I want to buy a 45-50L prone / wing board that I can use for improving prone, and wing in higher winds... but I soooooo torn between a Skipper, Slice V2 or Omen Flux. I can see positive and negatives in all 3.

[@appletreesurfboards]

Hi! I will make it even harder for you, or easier, just how you see it. We are launching the slice V3 this friday. This will be available in 40 and 50L and might be just what you are looking for. so keep an eye out!

[@FoilWays]

@@appletreesurfboards Haha, just got back here after spotting that on Facebook! I'm paying attention. 50L is exactly what I'm looking for. Given my Jazz has been sooooo good, I want to stick with an Appletree. I finally even figured out how to fix them to where you can't even see the repair... and I found a clearcoat that more or less matches the original satin look for the repaired area. Mind you, I only had to repair the nose on mine.

[@billsuper7324]

Hi ! Great boards you make ! Would you say the 70L slicev2 is as easy to start as the skipper 75 ? Also are you getting a slice v3 out soon ? Thanks !

[@appletreesurfboards]

Yes, that is about right. We cannot say anything about a V3 release yet :)

[@Stefan-Foil]

Why you need to go really low in volume to sink it more? I know many experienced 80-85kg rider that chose a semi sinker board around 60L and 70-75kg riders that prefer a board around 50L. They say if smaller they need to ride a bigger foil or ride overpowered to get up. I’m 82kg and also have 60L and 78L boards and tempted to get a board around 50L but like to use the smallest possible HA foil and wing. Any advice?

[@appletreesurfboards]

Very personal in deed. We find that when you ride in tricky conditons, waves, lots of current pulling on the foil, that a smaller board is easier to control. I am 95Kg myself and find a 70L too corky, and an 80L too floaty. so I go for 60-70 range. That said, I don't mind a bigger wing at all, so I usually have enough power.

[@Stefan-Foil]

@@appletreesurfboards Good answer, makes a lot of sense

[@Tobeon2]

So, if I weigh 75 kg (77 kg with wetsuit and all), would 84 L be considered as a floaty board?

[@appletreesurfboards]

@@Tobeon2 Yes, I would consider that a floating board. would be a good option for lighter winds and safety

[@miko670]

What is your recommendation for beginners weighing 100 kg?

[@tomjeppesen4106]

A 140L board

[@kountchev1]

man, it is a so complex topic, with no definitive answer. weight (rider/board....), wind, shape, foil, water conditions. i guess one has to try. and unfortunately for us buyers, 2 boards might be the only solution... cheers! j.

[@appletreesurfboards]

thanks for the comment. IT's a super complicated topic, I am sure we can do an "updated" video every season. Which I think we will.

[@Jonasmollerjensen]

How does inflatable boards work compared to rigid boards. (I’m a beginner to the sport)

[@appletreesurfboards]

Hi @@Jonasmollerjensen. Inflatable boards are great for your first rides, and when space (in your car for instance) is at a premium. For performence riding however, they do not compare with rigid boards. Yes, some, more quality ones feel quite good and are resonably stiff, but it just never compares to carbon fibre. Then the shape is very limited to what you can construct in an inflatable construction, so most of the boards look similar (blobby) Also, it is very hard/impossible to make sharp edges on a inflatable. which are needed for effective water release. I would only advise them for schools and I never advise anyone to buy it, because you will outgrow it quickly after which you need to invest again in a rigid board.