How to choose your wing board | Wing Foil

[@PiperEMcDermot]

I started on a 130l -6ft board as a total beginner, (no kiting or windsurfing, plus a grandma😆). I’ve just gone down after a year to a 95l -5.4 board. After my third session on it, I found my balance and suddenly saw progression, made my first successful tacks. Still not confident to go offshore outside the reef like on the big one, but soon. Love your tips - they’ve been a big help 🙌

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Keep it up, so awesome! Thank you for sharing....

[@PeterFisherDuke]

Love the comment about passing along beginner setups!! I'm a whitewater kayaker and SUP and have enough boats for an armada. Rather than trying to make a buck off it I love the idea of just giving it to someone who wants to learn! Love yalls advice, both relevant and irrelevant is quality content 👍👌😎

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you Peter we appreciate you!

[@Tobeon2]

Such a practical & educational clip. Thank you!! In my experience & opinion, a beginer should start with the easiest & the biggest board you can handle/carry around. However, I think the size (volume) of board heavily depends on the wind condition. If the wind is light, the board should be 5 - 15 % bigger than the usual one. I weigh 165 lbs (75 kg) and can ride/enjoy 82 liter to 125 liter board. In Hua Hin, Thailand where there is consistent minimum 10 knots wind, I do not have any problem wing foiling with 88 liter board (Cabrinah Code) .. But, in Han River, Seoul, I ride 112 liter board (Reedin Feather Board) since the wind is 7-13 knots and very inconsistent

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you for sharing great information!

[@kangyeonjo243]

주호 형님!!!ㅎㅎ nice to see you here!!

[@danzbeard]

Thank you for this video! I have a question for you: I kiteboard, surf, and wakeboard, but I've yet to wing, and my wife is a complete novice/beginner (no watersport experience). I'm trying to figure out a setup that will work for both of us to learn on. I know it's not ideal, but I'm trying to save some money. I'm 6'0 190lbs (86kg) and she is 5'4" 120lbs (55kg)... This is the setup I have in mind: Board 88-90L, Foil 72-75, Front wing 1850, wing 5.0... Conditions at our spot are deep water and wind 10-20 knots most days, 30-40 days are relatively frequent but we won't go out then. Thank you in advance

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

88-90L board is way too small in my opinion. I would recommend this setup with the 110L board, 1900 foil kit and 5m wing: wingfoilprocenter.com/products/afs-access-wingfoil-pack?_pos=1&_psq=access&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[@mms123451]

Damo, Gwen, I started up with you guys and continue following your channel. As my skills get better and am starting to race, it would be nice to see vids on tips such as how to reach max speed on foil (which is my struggle at the moment ; ) thanks again for all the hard work

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Close your eyes and rig big! :) Kidding great point will add it to the list!

[@richardleparmentier8708]

Great video as always! celebrating 1 year of wing thanks to your guys! does not always have to be easy as demonstrated by Harry in the background moving the rocks instead of his chair! loved it.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you Richard!

[@bradleyj.mansfield5726]

Super cracking video guys, always a pleasure to watch. Had really cool session yesterday, here in the UK on my 117L Ensis, loving that board but although the wind was a bit sporadic, I still had a sweet time & crusied on the foil, loving it 🤙🤙keep up the good work giving us these awesome videos. Thanks guys 🙏❤

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you! Appreciate your feedback!

[@brianmckenzie1318]

Great tips and info! Sometimes volume can be your friend, especially since boards will be getting a little bit wider! No need to work too hard!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

100% agree!

[@davidspiering2333]

Just learning to efoil before stepping into wing foiling and just had to say I love all your content man. You have so many great suggestions. Great job and much love....

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you for the kind words! We appreciate you!

[@Tyler-ic5kw]

Great video Damien! You Gwen make a great team. Keep making the vids!! I noticed you have the Cabrinha Code. I just visited the Cabrinha tour van and was wondering what your thoughts are between the Cabrinha Macro and their newer Code? Is there enough of a technological deference between the two that you would recommend the Code over the Macro for a novice wing foiler? If the Macros go on sale they could be a great buy, but if the Code is a better platform for learning, then maybe the extra $$ is well spent. Maybe you could address the technological advances being made in foiling in one of your upcoming vids. Thanks & 🤙🏼‼️

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thanks for the kind words friend! I personally think the Code is a much better board. It is not as sticky and has a better release. The Macro works fine and will do the job 100%. It was great before the code came out. If you are in a windy area the macro, will be great as the stick will be irrelevant. If you are in a lighter area I would spend the extra money and go with the code. The Code is a great board! You can get 5% off here: @t and support us and the KZbin channel! Get 5% off any gear using discount code DAMO5 adventuresportsusa.com/collections/foil-boards/products/01-code?ref=DAMO

[@chesterfrantz6209]

This was great vid! I’d love to see a vid with more lulled out slogging/ not on foil at different liters and Maby skills w kg of rider.

[@larrycollar1322]

Enjoy your videos but just had to say I’m bucking the trend toward smaller boards as you progress. I just replaced a 114 L cork of a board with a 125 L battleship and am loving the change. It was so frustrating trying to climb back on that smaller, tippy board after a wreck that I gave up sessions early and winged less. I don’t feel that much difference in flying this larger board but it is clearly more stable. Maybe it’s something to do with Harry looking to be about my age although you did show him riding low volume boards. Nice that the trend is towards smaller boards because I got a heck of a deal on the battleship.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you for sharing Larry!

[@knightclan4]

I live on the coast in Oregon Can’t wait to get foiling

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Rick your going to love it!

[@nfinnigan]

Harry in the background, he's always full of colour, and happiness. LOL

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Nick a true legend Harry is! We appreciate you!

[@sailingnusa4228]

Yeah awesome video, we are going to get into wing foiling now.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Yewww, That is what we love to hear! Enjoy the learning process.

[@murraybruce3802]

Thanks Damo and Gwen! You guys always have great content. My suggestion is to convert your weight from pounds to kilos. I am 175 pounds which converts to 80 kilos. 80 liters will float 80 kilos. Add in a few kilos to compensate for the weight of my wetsuit and impact vest so a 85 liter board will float me back to shore when the wind dies here in the San Francisco Bay. I started on 115 liter two years ago and it’s still my only board. Once I can wing toe side, both directions,without falling then I’ll be ready for a 90 liter board! Thanks again!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you for sharing great information!

[@dilnozaerkaboyeva6397]

That’s it!! I’m getting red! 🤣🤣

[@MartialArtUK]

I've got a 5 10 60l home made cross over you could try 😅. No footstrapa though 😅

[@angolinchos]

You da best guys!! Thanks

[@TheIanParkin]

Hey Harry, we see you in the background. So, come and say Hi to your fans when these two are filming.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Ian, we love Harry true legend!

[@ApriliaRSV4-777]

Thank You Guys for all the tips

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Thank you!

[@maksymskoryk3784]

hello Damo, Gwen! Thanks for such a cool overview! I have a question regarding Cabrinha Code 88l. Are the foil tracks long enough. Is there a temptation to move the foil even further forward if it was possible? I would appreciate an answer from Gwen since we are in the same weight category ;) Thank you in advance!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

The code has the foil track in the right place in our opinion, we’ve never needed to put the mast all the way forward or back

[@maksymskoryk3784]

@@DamienLeroyKZbin Damien, thank you for sharing it!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Yep Thank you!@@maksymskoryk3784

[@constantinosdrakakis897]

Great video. I am intermediate wing foilder at 91 kgrs with 125 liters board. I would like to progress by getting a 105 liters board. So the question is that if I will be standing (91 kgr) with no air at a 105 liters board will the board sink a little or not ?

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

At 91kg likely you can stand on it but will be much more unstable. I think it would be a good next step as long as you have tension in the wing you will be jamming on it and will learn your way to make it work.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

It's definitely going to be low in the water but the second you get movement it will get up on plane.

[@DownsizingMakesCents]

The problem is these things are very expensive, so going through several stages will empty the bank account, so when buying ONE board as beginner is a hard decision. When learning to kite 20 years ago i went through several boards early, i wish i had started with a more advanced board, grew out of the beginner board fast. Larry

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Maybe 90-100L board could be a good mid level! All depending on your weight. This would be good for say 185 lbs. Would be harder to learn on than say a 130L board but good all around in the future for mid performance.

[@marcjablo]

Live in New Hampshire, plenty of lakes around and seacoast less than an hour away. 165-168Lb, 67 inches. I am a beginner on windsurfing. Which equipment should I pick?

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Marcio, First, we just want to thank you for your time and reaching out to Gwen and I. Recently we have been overwhelmed with the amount of people reaching out to us on our KZbin channel and since we do this to help others, we still have our full time jobs so the time spent replying to questions and conversations had to be better managed. We are asking that you head over to our Patreon page for $5 a month and we can reply and answer questions there, it will help everything become more streamlined that way we can help you in the best way possible! Thank you so much for your understanding and time! We are so honored and grateful. Always here to help! Gwen and Damo LINK Here: Support this KZbin channel on Patreon ($5/month for exclusive content): www.patreon.com/damienleroy

[@Charlietuna49]

Thanks for the videos. Where is this video filmed?

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Stuart, Causeway in FL. Thank you!

[@yaknkski]

Nice to hear about the person giving his beginner gear away to someone that can't afford it. I'm shocked by the amount of money it takes to get started and I'm sure it keeps a lot of people out of the sport. Great vids, thanks!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Amen! There are still some wonderful people out there!

[@Hotwire_RCTrix]

That really is the problem for many of us, COST. It's just really really not cheap, especially if you and your partner want to start together.

[@WinKi.Watersports]

Wich App do you use to make your thumbnails? Im doing a youtube channel myself and im not happy with my thumbnails,. Yours look perfect!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

My guess Gwen works with Photoshop!

[@bmrbca3658]

Would you choose an inflatable or composite as a first board? Assuming you could store and transport either.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Either or will work really! I would personally choose a composite myself, as an inflatable I would leave inflated the whole time "me personally". I would not be traveling with it. So I might as well go with a hair more performance in the composite.

[@NeoVdV]

Hallo, I'm almost 61, nevertheless each time I see some video of wingfoiling I get that feeling of wanting to go out and try it. I live close to a lake where I can do it. I have only experience with watersports as SUP, kayak and Catamaran sailing. No skateboard, snowboarding or any foil experience at all. As I live in Belgium winter is almost here. With that this is a time that people sell boards, foils and wings as they want to progress in smaller and better gear next year. There is no store anywhere close to my location, no place to rent or try out some gear. Best, and probably only way, to start is buying my own gear and go out learning with try and error till I get it. I now have the opportunity to buy some good 2e hand gear. Not much to find here either. But what to buy ? I want to buy something I can start with as a newbie but can keep for longer without having to sell, with loss, and buy new. I already bought a wing, Cabrinha X2 6m and a foil, Shinn 82cm mast, 1950cm² front wing. Now I have to decide on a board. I've the choice between a Starboard X wing 145 or a Fanatic Sky 110 So one has more volume, the other a 20cm shorter and relative significantly lighter. What to take ? I'm 175cm tall a d about 82Kg (in shorts !) Oh yes, so for lake conditions. More volume, more buoyancy, more stability, more drag, more sticky on the water, ... needs more speed to lift on foil ? Less volume, takes longer to learn, less water contact surface, faster lift ... ? So ... 145 or 11o Liter board ? (I tried 2x on my SUP but that I won't do anymore as I got downwind way to fast and to far, plus only a short part of walk of shame is possible walking in the water (not on shore) as other part is deeper than standing depth)

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Neo, All great questions. I will try and keep it simple. I believe you can use at 180 pounds or 82kg the fanatic sky 110 to learn. It will take maybe aa few more attempts in the beginning, getting your balance and making sure you get comfortable on the smaller board but in time it will be perfect! My thoughts.

[@NeoVdV]

@@DamienLeroyKZbin Well ... as I'm alone and my B-day is coming up ... giving myself a present ... and knowing that there are only 5 boards (a 35, 75, 95, 110 and 145) in Belgium on 2e hand sites ! ... I bought the 110 and the 145 ... just to be sure not to miss out on it as both of these are really as out of the box condition for a good deal. Selling the 145 hopefully soon when at the level to go onto the 110 😉 I hope the weather will permit me to go out on the water with my gear (as i don't like the cold) to discover this new sport. Find out how the progress will be for me as a total newbie, no other watersport experience to fall back on.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

@@NeoVdV Happy B day from all of us friend! Enjoy the process it's not easy but you will fall in love with it like the rest of us.

[@NeoVdV]

Got out on the water, ... dark grey sky and had rain too, wind ranging from 8 to 15kts. 5 runs up and down of 3 with walk of shame back to reset. A lot of balancing acts and acrobatic falls ;-) And who was there along with me, even on the same board (Starboard X wing 145) ... the king of Belgium, yes really ! Also getting his debute in winging.

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

@@NeoVdV So awesome thank you for sharing! You rock friend.....

[@christophemeletiou8336]

Body weight in pounds versus volume in liters ? Should nt it be either kilos over liters or pounds over gallons or pints ?

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

It's all over the map right now in the industry! :)

[@bryanhall9996]

Assuming liters are the same: board weight vs length, which tends to have a bigger impact on performance?

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

It's best we are seeing to have a board around 5-6 feet with high volume for learning than a 7-8 feet board and the same volume! The longer board will have a harder time unsticking off the water when getting up on foil!

[@bryanhall9996]

@@DamienLeroyKZbin sorry I should have have asked a little more clearly! Lets say two boards, 95l each. One is 5'4" but a pound lighter. The other is 5'0" but a pound heavier. Lighter weight or shorter length at those sizes?? Slightly more nuanced step down question!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

@@bryanhall9996 I would go with the 5'0 for sure! One pound is irrelevant.... Length can make a big difference in surface tension! my thoughts.

[@bryanhall9996]

@@DamienLeroyKZbin thanks for the advice!!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

@@bryanhall9996 Thank you!

[@mikhailreyzin6476]

Hi guys, a great thanks for your videos and your philosophy of life. I really hope I will get some advice from you, because I couldn’t find any proper answer for this question anywhere in internet. I am windsurfer 66kg. I’ve have spent 2 month WingfoilDahab on a rental equipment and learned jibes tacks. Now I am working on the simple jumps. As rental is getting very expensive I decided to buy my own equipment that will enable me to continue my progression for the next 2 years and can’t make a decision on board size between 65 and 75L. I gonna buy Fanatic style board. Normally I would buy straight ahead 65Liters, for learning tricks, but as I am usually on light winds, I am conserved about: - being able to get on foil with very light winds (5-8 knots). Here for I buy a 7m cwc and a bigger foil, but don’t know if this extra 10L can help, because some people say it is only about pumping technicals and strength and not about board size… - being able to go back by holding the wing standing on the board if the wind drops below 5-6 knots - and the less important, but still is to be able to do supfoil puddling, that I would love to learn as as Sup enthusiast) Thanks for your advice in advance!

[@DamienLeroyYouTube]

Friend, A tough question, at 66kg or 145 lbs 75L can technically float you in the lightest of wind so no problem and for sure a great size. The 65L would be a hair more advanced and you would just need a little pressure in the wing to keep movement going to get up and foil with decent abilities. If proficient the 65L will work for sure but always hard to say when not knowing someones ability.