Thinking About a Floyd Rose? The Pros and Cons

In this video, I talk about some of the advantages and disadvantages of the Floyd Rose tremolo system.
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[@JD-vj4go]

I love my Floyd until it's time to adjust intonation.

[@Pericles777]

Look for “The Key” on Stuart Macdonald website. Makes things a million times easier

[@JoshyyJay]

Fu tone.com there is a tool to make it super easy

[@JoshyyJay]

www.fu-tone.com/product/the-key/

[@freewheeler8924]

Intonation is Patriarchal and a product of White Supremacy.

[@neilgrenier7622]

@@freewheeler8924 hahah

[@FeralMarauder]

I hate the Floyd Rose and yet I can't live without it. Kind of like my wife.

[@AuroraLuxi]

That's codependency 😬👌🏻

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

Ok boomer

[@Samoan_Metalhead]

Okay fuvkwit

[@rasmus8408]

Lol

[@freewheeler8924]

She love\hates Floyd Rose too?

[@freewheeler8924]

I'm gonna put a floyd rose in me acoustic!

[@caio509]

Freewheeler ! I just put one in my ukulele

[@asdfghjkl4596]

amateurs.. i put one on my drum kit

[@superpig4589]

Lmao got one installed on my vocal cords actually

[@badabing4814]

Put one on my throat to get better tone

[@vhsorion]

put one in my violin

[@peleproductions]

The whole flattening of the other strings during bends is kind of a dealbreaker for me. It's a trade between functionality that I do use regularly with functionality that I don't.

[@jerrypeevey]

Yes and thank goodness someone explained it (without prejudice) before I got one.

[@philfrank5601]

If anybody could figure a way to stop this from happening, it will be a bigger revolution than the Floyd itself.

[@funkyfinnegan]

Fu-tone tremblocker will take care of that if set up correctly.

[@monitorlizard9971]

@@funkyfinnegan uh, no? doesnt that just make it so you cant pull up on the whammy. Im not disagreeing I just dont have understanding of a trem blocker if itll actually stop the tension on other strings during bends.

[@monitorlizard9971]

idk with my edge pro(ibanez prestige bridges) never really noticed my bridge moving much at all when I bend. I think edge pros are like the best floating bridges in the world though. Certainly i never notice being out of key or tune when I do reinforced bends it sounds just fine.

[@lettucebionicle2798]

Are his fans called Jake Poolers?

[@satan1189]

EMONEMOTM jake paul and jake paulers are cancer

[@FlyingV555]

EMONEMO 😂😂😂😂

[@whatshendrix]

Get this cancerous garbage out of here.

[@Docandballtorture7756]

EMONEMO logang

[@nolanburchett7972]

I have pretty serious PTSD from an attack by a horse named Floyd Rose. Didnt even kick me the horse just repetitively bit me over and over again

[@twistedbutbliss9333]

Oh my god dude😂

[@darthhotdog9990]

Must have been a bad horsie

[@jared305]

DarthHotDog *Steve Vai casually walks in the room*

[@MOTORHEADGASKET]

Yo wtf😆😅

[@scrappybadger4369]

*screenshots

[@caio509]

My very first guitar was a Floyd Rose Ibanez. The only regret that I have about that guitar... I shouldn't have sold her.

[@alphaclean3364]

Same here!

[@APoxyR8]

And that’s why I achieved a high salary career so I can pay a pro to deal with my Floyd Rose.

[@benhernandez9973]

So because u achieved a high salary career, that makes you lazy and too dumb to try and learn how to tune a Floyd Rose guitar?

[@campbellspence1520]

Ben Hernandez shut the fuck up he’s making a joke you asshole

[@Nightcrawl7]

@@campbellspence1520 ok calm down lol

[@gage2038]

@@benhernandez9973 oooo burn XD

[@brandonwilson1586]

Weirdest flex ever

[@ethanpederson]

Personally, I love my Floyd. Yes, it was kind of a hassle to set up at first, but it only gets easier from there, and I virtually never have to tune it.

[@victorstriga]

What's your tuning of choice then? :)

[@seinfan9]

That is if you don't change the tuning you want.

[@watersnortmoment3734]

@@seinfan9 Make the bridge drop only, and it's not an issue

[@kelektark7691]

@@watersnortmoment3734 What do you mean by that?

[@watersnortmoment3734]

@@kelektark7691 Making it so you can only go down in pitch, rather than both directions. There's a lot of things for it like tremblockers. It's mostly because the tension of the back springs is enough to hold the trem flush with the body, leading to changing tunings just feeling like a Fender trem with much better tuning stability. Technically that's how Floyd Roses were meant to be installed as well, it's why old Kramers didn't have a little body cavity cut out on the top. People didn't really use it as a floating bridge back then because it hurts tuning stability.

[@Fr0stiX101]

I have a floyd rose and i don't even know why the hell i'm watching this video

[@robertemerson1087]

I'm watching it because I'm thinking about getting a Fraser custom with a Floyd rose on it and wanna know more details.

[@ThotSticks]

Dimebag 💪

[@johannmunoz_gtr]

For Drop D, exist d-tuna EVH for floyd rose :D

[@danielvelkovski3156]

Johann Muñoz yes, by Tone Vise. I got mine installed, love it

[@yoyofargo]

speed 1.5 you're welcome

[@BrunoNeureiter]

Thanks. My poop came out faster

[@WhiteCranK]

how about some patience for good informations...?

[@BulletFever1]

@@WhiteCranK god forbid we make our lives easier, that is after all why we're here.

[@supersandwich8967]

1.25 is better

[@eduardoferrari657]

0.25 is better

[@acoffeewithsatan]

Make sure it comes properly set up for your preferred string gauge and desired tuning and when changing strings, either change one at a time or block the bridge beforehand. If you have one more guitar you can easily change tuning if you wish to, Floyd Roses are excellent, but unless you really only play on a single tuning, don't get one to be your one and only guitar. Also, don't buy it just for the novelty of whammy bar tricks, you'll end up getting bored of it and loose the only reason you've bought it. I got mine mostly for the higher tuning stability, most of the time I don't even have the bar on.

[@philfrank5601]

Buying a Floyd and not using the bar is like buying a Porsche without a stick shift. Yeah, you can do it...but every excuse you make up just exposes your lack of skill.

[@SimonsBand1]

@@philfrank5601 that's nonsense, i like the bar but i have been amazed at how better my schaller stays in tune compared to my fixed bridges, it's amazing to be able to play for ages and not have any slippage. Even high end hardtails go out if you are aggressive, but a well setup floyd can stay in for a whole gig

[@XiyuYang]

In your case I think EverTune might work better for you.

[@OlleForsberg]

I agree that if you only have one workhorse, you're gonna have less trouble with a hardtail, but if you're going to play in a more aggressive way, the Floyd rose is gold.

[@Deeeth]

Nice, very helpful! Exactly what I needed.

[@grahambeam3642]

I have hardtail and floyds. Love em both. They both have their place

[@silvashreds4561]

so legts say i want to play A LOT of van halen, a floyd would obviously be a good choice for me right?

[@jakepoolmusic7061]

Yes. Also be conscientious of the body wood you're using.

[@silvashreds4561]

Jake Pool Music OK thank you :D

[@jery3385]

@@jakepoolmusic7061 I have a question,what does the body wood affect other than weight?

[@seamusforpresident3670]

Je Ry hes not gonna answer the whole tone wood debate 🤣 Essentially some people think that different woods create different tones Let’s say mahogany has a thick and warm sound (I have no idea about this) and ash has a twangy and snappy sound (same I have no idea). If you wanted to play country you would go for the ash, but if you wanted to play classic rock, you would choose mahogany. So yea that’s the basics

[@jery3385]

@@seamusforpresident3670 I have been educated since then,but what I believe is that depending on the density of the wood it affects how much vibration it takes in, let's say a high density wood will not absorb that many vibrations so there will be more sustain and a brighter snappier tone of some sort,even if you can eq the bass in order to get that tone,or a low density wood will absorb way more vibration and decrease the sustain and make the tone warmer I'd say,at least this is what I believe,maybe I'm stupid and don't understand physics,if that's the case feel free to bitch slap me with knowledge.

[@angelocatapang6054]

locking floating tremolo guitars.loved them cause they're terrific,hated them cause they're a fucking pain in the ass.however worth it.

[@luluskywo]

I'll get a floyd guitar but only because I already have one with a hard tail which is great for messing with the tuning. I'll set up the floyd guitar in drop D and use the digitech drop to tune lower if need be. The less you mess with it the better.

[@freewheeler8924]

I put Floyd Rose inside me double bass. Not "a" floyd rose, but Floyd Rose himself.

[@andredegiant3876]

Dime is one of my favorites but I’m far too lazy for a Floyd. I dig them just as long as someone else is using them 😅🤘

[@94SexyStang]

Can't do Van Halen or Pantera properly without Floyd.

[@metachica971]

And you gotta get fucked just by drop tuning to play pantera riffs

[@strayzilla]

I didn't get a floyd until after playing hardtails for 20 years. Most people will never get through the hype of them being a pain. When you learn how to do things properly it takes zero effort. My first floyd set up took about 4 hours because I didn't look for help. Now I have it down to about 15 min. Using a block or stack of business cards to hold the bridge level allows you to tune or down tune in seconds, without having to mess with the claw. The only real downsides are breaking a string on stage and bending doublestops. Plus, you can always hardtail it and be in tune forever.

[@ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204]

I've been using them for thirty years! By doing nothing other than properly removing the springs I can remove the bridge, set it next to the guitar, work on the guitar and then replace the bridge and the springs and the guitar is still perfectly in tune!

[@ErraticFaith]

Hello from the other side of the world probably (Osaka Japan o/) but I was curious and searching this topic as to why so many of you dislike FR! But yes it isn't a hassle to use and is extremely versatile more than what you would think. Playing on stage I replaced most of my instruments with FR style bridges because I just love the feel and stability. Really just tricks not always fitting the style, so dont think that. My advice is to get one early so you will become familiar using it and then all of the hassle is removed through repeat and experience. Next you will simply have an extra tool, which providing you buy a decent guitar with an FR original component is nice and will serve your learning very much.

[@strayzilla]

@@ErraticFaith Well most people just hear how complicated it is and can't be bothered to see actually how simple it is. I'll admit I was one for years. I watched a video on the FU Tone channel and it changed my life on floyds. People have this opinion of when you tune one string it throws all the other strings out. And it does, if you do it wrong. If you just block the floyd and then tune, remove the block. It will be slightly out of tune. People try to use the fine tuners and it throws the guitar out of whack. But if you take the block out and then tune the A string by adjusting the claw in back of the guitar and not the fine tuners, it pulls the guitar into tune evenly. If tuning a hard tail is a 1/10 for difficulty, tuning a floyd is a 2/10 if you know how to do it properly. But after 30 years of people saying it's complicated, it's hard to convince people otherwise.

[@ErraticFaith]

@@strayzilla Yes, I understand you (: Its a shame an similar in much of music. People read online that its so difficult and think it make sense because they have no knowledge thats different. Its frustrating very much when beginners tell you what they have read, doubting your actual experience and it happens with many things. My keyboard player says the same. She came to a class and young students saying something is useless because it lacks one modern feature. Then when she will play on an much older board they are surprised because it sound so great even with older technologies! Never any replacement for learn, practise and experience. If you read its just an opinion but maybe for you, you will personally like it! So you must always not take other peoples words but make some for yourself. I hope its clear what I mean (: My ESP guitars with OFR are so special for me because the stability and play is so great. I have some hardtail and other but always I reach for it and its strange to not have it now so you get used to it and extra work become worth it. Thanks!

[@TheTektronik]

@@ErraticFaith I just had my first guitar a month ago and it was equipped with a Floyd Rose bridge but before that, I consumed all the information I could find about dealing with a Floyd Rose bridge. By the time my guitar came, I was able to set it up and tune it in less than 30 minutes and it does hold tune pretty well.

[@ThumpingThromnambular]

This is a great video. I think I've learned that the cons outweigh the pros for me. I may get a guitar setup with one for fun, or try it at a guitar center one day, but my itch to perform those dragonforce tricks has disappeared when I think about all the stuff you've gotta do.

[@watersnortmoment3734]

If you make the bridge dive only like it was built to do, those issues are practically nonexistent.

[@dizzyrick7653]

@@watersnortmoment3734 If you're going to make it dive-only, there's no point to getting a Floyd Rose bridge.

[@timmbosliice]

The floyd rose is also probably the most comfortable bridge out there. Any guitar I get for metal is gonna have a floyd (preferably the original). Best bridge out there IMO.

[@SHFTPROJECTS]

I have both a floyd and a fixed bridge, bt after doing research I believe that the Kahler bridge is the best. Why? because it's both a fixed and tremolo system. The bridge locks into place and you can play it like any other but then simply unlock and use it just like a floyd. Only problem is the price because its about $300 for just the bridge and parts. If I had the money it would definitely be a good investment.

[@CaJosh1o2]

Hey, great video! So if I'm switching tunings a lot, for example between standard and drop C, I would have to adjust the tension of the springs every time, right? That seems like a huge turn off...

[@codyhansonbass]

Correct.

[@reneebear3641]

Yes, correct That being said, I’d really just recommend to go ahead & learn to love your instruments enough to enjoy putting on some music & going through maintenance. Any musical instrument you buy will demand maintenance, floating bridge guitars are just the worst of it

[@RossoFiamma99]

This was really thankful! Subscribed

[@jakepoolmusic7061]

Thank you!

[@SonOfNiall]

Pro's- Floyd Rose Con's- Floyd Rose

[@scotthood2343]

if you know how to pick string gauges, drop tuning is just as stable as standard. If you need drop and standard you can either have 2 guitars or you can set it up properly and use the fine tuner on the bridge to drop tune and level out the others in a few seconds. spring noise is super simple to get past, all you need is a bit of foam to pad it, ive even use the big rubber bands that come on like broccoli to wrap around the strings just enough to get rid of spring noise, but not really change the feel of using the tremolo arm like padding with foam can do, but i use 4 springs so thats not usually an issue for me. great video, none of the points made were wrong. But there are ways of getting rid of those cons, and they are all small, and cost free

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

or just use a pitch shifter pedal and avoid the hassle!

[@angelcastellanosmartinez2412]

Hello friend, i purchased a Schecter hellraiser c1 fr sustainiac. I want to drop D, i have gauge 42. If i change the string to 46 will stabilize the tension? Or should i go higher?, 48? 52? Mine has a Floyd Rose 1000 series The Schecter hybrid c1 fr s has a Floyd rose 1500, wich one is better? What is the difference? And what hybrid means in those two guitars? Thank you!

[@swarmer5]

Ángel Castellanos Martínez FR 1500 has a push in whammy bar so you don’t have to screw it in , it also has stainless steel components. If you want to drop tune unlock the nut and decrease the tension of the springs in the back of the guitar then tune up to your desired tuning keep messing around with the springs and you will eventually get it right.

[@angelcastellanosmartinez2412]

@@swarmer5 ...thanks for your info

[@MatteoKysely]

I don't know why people hate floyd rose bridges so much, I got myself one after doing some research on the internet and I don't/didn't have any problems. I bought mine for 200€ (247$) which is a Cort X6 and I love it.

[@j3in725]

Matteo マテお Kyselý same, I spent a month watching videos, than goed to a must store and tried it out, I even got to watch a guitar technician do it by a new I'm stock guitar Just inform yourself and apply that step by step, also re-check especially in the beginning

[@TJJJJJJJJJJJ]

Kyselý キセリーMatteo マッテオ wait till you bust a few strings mid gig then come back to me . They are not worth the trouble. Learn to bend properly and you don’t need one

[@CusterFlux]

Floating Trem? Got a Floyd, Got a Kahler - prefer the Kahler, even though it's not quite as aggressive …

[@npc.9523]

I have a floating trem strat but I need a floyd so I can wammy dive and stuff like that

[@bangrunus420]

Get the Kahler, it's​ very beginner​ friend​ly

[@styxjones2998]

little known fact the old german made 1980s floyd rose trems were manufactured by kahler floyd created it and held the pattent but contracted kayhler to mass produce

[@KRANKENdude]

Great content man, subbed!

[@jakepoolmusic7061]

Thank you!

[@264roy]

Eliminate the hassle of drop d by installing a bridge lock and a drop tuning mechanism by tone vise. Also put damping material in the spring cavity to eliminate spring sound. No problems from mine at all. Only draw back is you can’t pull up on whammy bar.

[@aevin_io]

wish i knew all these a few years back when i got my first guitar. Floyd rose gave me a great deal of headaches...

[@Carlos_h_brito]

Very honest and unbiased opinions, great job man! I've used floyds for many years and it's exaclty like that.

[@promark6137]

floyds arent a pain in the ass. just do your research and youll be fine

[@MichaelDespairs]

I've been playing guitar for 20 years. They're a pain in the ass.

[@michaelenochs5024]

Perversia That's funny because I've been playing for 12 years and never had a problem. Guess it's user error.

[@MichaelDespairs]

Michael Enochs that's cause you're just a baby player. you'll get there you'll see.

[@MichaelDespairs]

Michael Enochs ever broke a string on stage on a trem? lol making cartoon noises isnt worth needing tools to change a string. not to mention detuning a string or the entire guitar. More tool more time more hassle less flexbility to just go beewwowwwwow. lol

[@michaelenochs5024]

Perversia I've never broken a string with a tremolo because I don't use the tremolo lol

[@nafis6668]

Floyd Rose + ESP arming adjuster = WIN. Floyd rose capability , rock solid tuning , attack , sustain of a fixed bridge. Faster to tune too. Steve vai uses almost same kind of the system, called ibanez trem stopper, shown on his live rig rundown videos :)

[@pinakdasgupta6490]

So I am thinking about getting an ibanez rg with an edge zero tremolo idk what is the difference between a Floyd rose tremolo and an edge zero tremolo

[@pinakdasgupta6490]

can u please help me sir

[@ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204]

The Edge Zero tremolo is basically a Floyd Rose design system, and probably must be licensed through Floyd Rose. It has nice refinements apart from the Floyd, but is really the same basic thing.

[@nethbt]

Edge Trems have softer metal than legit Floyds, hence they wear out quickly

[@shaft9000]

If you go Ibanez stick with original Edge, the later ones were worse and they still put the Edge on their upper range today.

[@DoktorDamage]

There are tremolo systems like the one EVH had, which has a small controller to drop the E to a low D and it stays in tune. I believe the Wolfgang guitar has that system. IMO, if you want to use a diff tuning, it is best to have more than one guitar. This way, you can leave the first guitar all set and not have to mess with it.

[@XiyuYang]

It's called a D-tuna, but IMO it's a temporary compromise because you're still tuning down a lighter gauge string - intonation and tension will be off. And yes, if you play in multiple tunings, it's just easier to have multiple guitars, each dedicated to that tuning, although that's an expensive option that only professionals can justify.

[@NotLink182]

If you’re thinking of a Floyd rose as a beginner, don’t… 👎🏻👎🏻

[@titanoboaoficial2014]

Fuck dat shit

[@randydandy1871]

Never cut your balls off, its the best part of the string...type in Type in "the Cone Head Mod" and never cut your balls off (the string) again. New discovery. see the video...evolution my friend ! its here. NO MORE STRING SLIP.

[@mattfreeman927]

*Dude, that was some helpful information you shared over there!* Now I know why my floyd-rose LTD produces an strange vibration when strummed strongly. Do you know what to do in order to avoid it?? Thanks!!!! :D

[@CyberChrist]

There are "silent" springs you can get on eBay with some sort of rubber to kill the noise. You might have to setup the tension screws again, and flutters might get more difficult, though.

[@mattfreeman927]

Oh, thanks. I might try them out :D

[@nicholasleonard268]

I know I'm a couple months late on this one, but you can also put a little bit of a sponge or something behind the springs to deaden them. Works fine and is much cheaper.

[@mattfreeman927]

Sounds clever, I'll try it!!

[@scottclydesdale1674]

Jake, this is a very comprehensive video. I have two questions which may be of benefit to anyone selecting bridge types on a new guitar, and I hope you will field them. 1) if the bridge is pulled forward during a string bend on a floating bridge, does it make vigorous string bending in general more difficult because all strings and hardware are connected? 2) if other strings go flat when a string is bent on a floating bridge, then unison bending (involving two strings) a la Gary Moore will sound way off?

[@supra1981]

Just Get it thats all I wanted to hear lol, been playing 32 years and never owned one, I'm 42 now and i'm writing 80's songs these days. I felt the call of my childhood so I think it's time.

[@andredegiant3876]

They have unmatched tuning stability... unless you break a string 😬

[@QueenFrisky]

Since we are talking about Floyd Rose bridges, which one is best? Original Floyd, Floyd Rose Special, or the licensed floyd rose that comes on the guitar? I think the original is the best

[@believitornot9775]

Floyd Rose is bad, but Edge ZR is better. I think perhaps Edge Zero can replace to floyd rose on any guitar equipped with it.

[@MichaelDespairs]

Trust me, get a fixed bridge! I can't count how many locking nut pieces I have lost over the years. Needing tools, two allen wrenches and a side cutter to clip off the ball ends of the string and sometime that little string lock insert block comes or falls out and if it bounces off the floor you're never going to see it again. Using a tool so close to your guitar body a hundred times you are bound to scratch it eventually. If you break a string you're not just down a string you're horribly out of tune and if you're playing live well fixed bridge is the way to go. Tuning the guitar takes much longer. Changing tuning or gauges is a nightmare. Yeah I know about that bridge locking system. It still doesn't fix all the other issues. Lastly all that reduced contact with the body and vibration energy being wasted an absorbed by a spring suspension eats tone an sustain. Just like the suspension in your car absorbs vibration for a smoother ride. Trems are complete garbage used to make cartoon noises.

[@philfrank5601]

Gotoh 510 when setup properly will do even the floppiest of string divebombs without the need for a locking nut. When I saw it do that, I knew it was the real deal.

[@anthonyjames3074]

Listened to the first 30 seconds and stopped the video. No. It is not worth the hassle. Send your Floyd Rose to a watery grave and go to this site: sophiatremolos.com/ You'll love playing music once again.

[@bc454irocz89]

I'm so sick of floyd roses, i have the german ones and it still doesn't stay in tune perfectly. One of my edges is pretty close. The problem is try finding a guitar without one that isn't a les paul these days. I have one of mine blocked off with a tusq nut. So nice to tune a guitar in 10 seconds and start playing instead of fiddling all day

[@DoggoWillink]

I always brought them to a shop until this week, when I decided to do it myself, to change my gauge and tuning. Well it turned out perfectly. The only thing I regret is thinking it was too hard to do myself for so long. It isn’t. My next guitar will be a fixed bridge, because I would like to also have a fixed bridge where I can quickly change whatever I want. But if I didn’t have a Floyd I would want one.

[@tarkgundogdu8940]

I am thinking of getting a guitar with a floyd rose bridge. What would be your suggestion? My first guitar is a fixed bridge basic bolt-on Ibanez guitar which I have always been happy with, actually. I am also looking for a set-thru or neck-thru model. Should I get a set/neck-thru guitar with a Floyd Rose or a fixed bridge?

[@lamontprospect9974]

Holy shit. This is the first time I've ever heard of a Floyd Rose. Thank you for this very informative video in terms of pros and cons. Being able to do a huge dive bomb sounds like a lot of fun. At the same time, sometimes less is more. You can do more with a subtle touch to the whammy bar then to go overboard. I find this quite interesting cuz I've never heard of this thing until now. I'm about to purchase a Gibson SG with a side vibrola. I understand it's relatively fragile. Although I was told by my guitar mechanic that if the guitar is set up properly before you take it home you should be able to use the vibrola and not have your guitar go completely out of tune. I guess with the money I'm spending on guitars, I'd rather treat it with kid gloves when it comes to the wiggle stick then take a chance of damaging a guitar that's four or five grand.

[@ashuzguitar]

Haha. Lol. Even Steve Vai's signature PIA is around 3.5k USD, and so is John Petrucci's Majesty. I find if extremely hard to beleive that you really bought a 5 grand guitar.

[@lamontprospect9974]

@@ashuzguitar Believe it. I paid $5K for a Custom Shopop Gibson SG with the side Vibrola. it's a 60th Anniversary and the whole thing is Relicted by the Custom shop. The hardware is all that antiqued nickel finish. I got it cuz I thought it looks cool. Most people are not going to buy a sideways vibrola because of the tuning concerns.

[@ashuzguitar]

@@lamontprospect9974 okay. If you say so, I'll give you the benefit of doubt till I research the price of custom shop Gibson that you've mentioned.

[@lamontprospect9974]

@@ashuzguitar I made them give me a print out of the price tag. 60th Anniversary Custom Shop Relic SG with a side vibrola. It was on display and I almost never buy display guitars. But they told me it would be a year before they got another one in. They made so many versions of that SG but this one is a Custom Shop.Can you attach photos to these messages?

[@randomman3]

@@lamontprospect9974 not a part of this conversation but you can use Imgur and post a comment with that link

[@greg4272]

What about Ibanez Zero Resistance tremolo? It does ALL that Floyd Rose do, but much better!

[@miijjk]

Just a nightmare I would never own another fluid Rose I spent more time tuning it than playing even Eddie Van Halen said the Floyd Rose robbed him of his tone his own sound

[@enigma1247]

I personally own and enjoy Floyd's but for the people that have never played one dont base your decision to purchase one or a guitar that already has one on from just watching some guy on youtube...go to a guitar center and play one there. Then make your decision and purchase from where ever you spend your money on guitars.

[@Djowl_]

I love my floyd because of the possibilities (pulls, dives etc), but i've unscrewed all the nut locks because i often change tunings (mainly because i play a lot of rocksmith). Anyone think that playing without the nutlocks can have a negative effect?

[@CyberChrist]

No problem that I know of, but do yourself a favour and get a tremolno / stopper to avoid hassles when tuning differently.

[@Djowl_]

Alright i'll check that out! Thanks a lot for the tip :)

[@paulnealis2828]

I've played a Floyd rose for 15 years. If you leave the nut unlocked it will constantly go out of tune. I lock mine with drop D tuning and the fine tuners most of the way unscrewed. This way I can screw down the 6 string form D to E standard without touching the locking nut and the strings stay in tune a lot better. Trust me. I've messed around with every set up imaginable over the years. This is the way to go.

[@Djowl_]

Paul Nealis That's really smart! Thanks a lot for the tip!!

[@thunderwolf3042]

so im going to get a floyd rose guitar for my birthday and i change my tunings a lot so can i really play without the locking nut. will it affect my guitar in negative ways?

[@miijjk]

Don't get one guitar center charge me $875 and set up my guitar I was so pissed off when I took it home it was out of tune I took it to another place spent another $80 it was out of town take your fluid rolls off it is junk

[@puddinggamez8599]

just got this without knowing about floyd rose and now im beyond a sanatarium

[@HeardItOnTheX]

People that don’t like Floyd Rose’s should spend more time yelling at suspension bridges.

[@mrtn2842]

Real guitarist owns Floyd’s so what are your ? Real or fake guitar player ?

[@enigma1247]

And if not being able to tune a guitar every other minute is such a crazy thing then buy a hard tail and buy a separate guitar that has a floyd....smh. Dude acts like people are only allowed to own a single guitar at a time

[@antonwilding9744]

The only mistake you can do is to grabb a cheap ass guitar with some fake trem system ......the good ones stays in tune very well , bust cost some money

[@Stretchwreckedem469]

Fortunately there are aftermarket products that help a long way with keeping your Floyd Rose functional, and help with keeping your guitar in tune!

[@tg8603]

Floyd Rose is the reminder that you can’t have your cake and eat it too. I would rather use a floating whammy bridge on a Fender that isn’t a Floyd instead.

[@MicheleDamato-co7vh]

I'm thinking you'd have more than one guitar, saves a lot of hassle.

[@maxloyd9682]

Is it true floyd takes away from the tone or makes it sound worse?

[@jakepoolmusic7061]

Great question! Theoretically, it should. But I found that it has much less of a negative effect on tone than I would expect. The bridge does eventually anchor into the body, only in the back cavity rather than anchoring into the top. You can definitely hear the springs and additional hardware resonating though. It gives it a unique sort of metallic resonance that you would not otherwise have. Whether you like that or not is personal preference, but it means that you don't necessarily sacrifice sustain, etc. It just trades a slight amount of wood resonance for a slight amount of metal resonance, in my opinion. Hope that helps!

[@maxloyd9682]

Jake Pool Music There’s a video on KZbin that’s called how much tone there’s a Floyd Rose steal. The video compares a Les Paul with Floyd and one without one , the les Paul with sounds completely different and a lot worse than the one without the Floyd. the video shocked me. How much of a difference in tone do you think there is between a tremleo bridge like a gotoh 510 or a Wilkinson vs a Floyd ? Do you think the tone difference is noticeable?

[@aikensource]

I think you should have hit on the points of the tonal difference. but overall, well spoken! good video, thanks!

[@aldiun16]

I've managed to keep mine in tune but im still afraid to change the tuning lol.

[@racecar388]

So if I want to tune the guitar to drop d I have to loosen the nuts then tune it down? I’m not familiar with a Floyd Rose.

[@XNamelessXNill]

I broke 3 sets of string trying to figure this thing out to hell with floyd rose selling this thing imidiatley

[@djbneozen]

What about using a pedal for hard dives? Vibrato can be done with the hand no?

[@gavrilopricip11]

the biggest con is that their always on cheesy pointy shredder guitars

[@raymarsh4620]

Personally I don't think that they are all that great. I put one on my piano and it didn't do anything.

[@5urg3x]

This is why I love CSIL's new block with a thumbscrew on it that adjusts spring tension on the fly No need to take out screwdriver or anything like that And OFC get noise proof springs I think the problem with Floyd's is Floyd Rose themselves and how _they_ did it wrong for so many years but got the patent on it anyway and basically made it so no one else could offer anything better -- until now :) BUT...double edged sword, people are resistant to change, they'd rather use something that's been around forever!

[@scattabrayneGaming]

Great explanation! I just recently hardtailed mine

[@rolandonoyola7179]

Hey man I love your guitar what guitar is that

[@Cos_]

So what I’m getting out of this video is that a Floyd is not worth it at all.

[@flintdavis2]

I’m a beginner (slow learner) and just purchased a fender strat with a Floyd Rose because it was chrome and shiny, makes guitar look so cool! So can I just bolt it down and use as regular bridge? I’m pretty handy mechanically. Still would like to use a little whammy, but nothing extreme. Any suggestions?

[@aarxv_s1042]

In my opinion like a beginner should probably not get a Floyd rose because firstly it makes tuning very hard plus it can demotivate you Maintenance is a bitch too

[@thequebee_0101]

I was looking to buy a Floyd Rose Glad I didn't lol

[@steveboisvert2819]

there's some noiseless spring you can install on your guitar, it's a little upgrade to fix that problem

[@hyenaswine]

I guess I will be getting a floyd rose guitar.

[@TMK8908]

I love my Jackson Kelly JS32!

[@justaguy2365]

Over complicated garbage.

[@adke3696]

tunning a floyd rose bridge is a pain in the left nut

[@ScotianBlooded]

hardtails resonate so much better

[@idontwantaname9750]

The drop D part isn't really true.

[@alexportugal1212]

Perfectly explained

[@thephoenixcycle8854]

Floyd Rose vs Evertune..

[@TheBullet0070]

i have exactly the same guitar)) Great one, but i blocked my floyd. The tuning was floating. Maybe the problem was in old(maybe) springs. I bought this guitar used.

[@CyberChrist]

Pivot points can get dirty, or knives get dulled, too.

[@il2626]

What to do have the same problem didn't know how to treat the guitar right for 3 1/2 years. Lol

[@il2626]

And it's from 1985

[@XiyuYang]

My ¥0.02, feel free to disagree. FRs have a learning curve for a proper setup, but once you can do it by yourself, FR s are the best.

[@ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204]

Oh yes. I've been using them for thirty years! By doing nothing other than properly removing the springs I can remove the bridge, set it next to the guitar, work on the guitar and then replace the bridge and the springs and the guitar is still perfectly in tune!

[@RenArthurCorillo]

tissue solves the spring issue

[@i8ittoo]

All i hear is beeping, Wth...

[@brandonharris9160]

5;27 Kahler though

[@agustinmartinez3000]

I think that the best floyd rose style bridges are the ibanez ones, those have tremsetter and a lot of features usefull for floyd users

[@ashuzguitar]

They are Edge, and Edge Pros. Another brand that makes floating bridges. Only Floyd Rose makes Floyd Rose brand bridges, which are yet another brand of floating bridges.

[@antoniobanderas3870]

i hear ibanez edge is better

[@michaelmascarenias1519]

VegaTrem for me😁

[@stevehill5018]

I had an early USA Jackson along time ago with a HQ Floyd that was great. A few years ago I bought a Jackson JS32. Great guitar for the price but the Floyd was a piece of junk! Sold it for a string through body Jackson.

[@plasticfork2449]

Kahler is better