When "superteams" don't work

Are the Clippers a doomed superteam? Why have they struggled so much since acquiring James Harden? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report explores Los Angeles's bumpy start, some outdated offensive isolation concepts they are running, and the challenging or winning a championship with their current team around Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.
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[@nightlightb6549]

Lack of ball movement was def killing these guys. Russ deciding to come off the bench really helps to establish the 2 primary creators and kinda even out the offense.

[@cben86]

Clips should move Harden to bench to further balance their offense. Just constantly press the opposing team so they can’t sit their better players for as long as they’d want

[@marcel3942]

Hardin is selfish asf. You see it in how lazy he is on defense, or when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. The clippers are stupid to think Harden was the solution to their problems

[@bilboswaggens2975]

Harden should come off the bench they were cooking early season. Let him come off get some assists with the 2nd team. Harden lead the league in assists last year.

[@MrDiMES123]

@@bilboswaggens2975they were not cooking

[@MrDiMES123]

@@bilboswaggens2975and Westbrook is the worse player there’s a reason he’s on the bench

[@DylanWolfram14]

Might want to make an updated version

[@JayNot2Tuff]

Agreed!

[@reactionreaper2501]

Milking the views 1st

[@darrellgramm3044]

9-0 since this video was released.

[@frz_-]

🥱

[@joshnic6639]

Yeah for real, this video saved the clipper season. They aren’t playing like this anymore. Now I only wish he would save Zion Williamson. Thinking basketball please save Zion Williamson. show him that teams form a wall against him, but if he played more like Michael Jordan and developed a mid range, he could take over the league. Hell, even a short midrange

[@darrellgramm3044]

update: 14-2 since this video was released

[@damarkomoore5236]

Update 17-3 since this video was released

[@dekumidoriya6365]

​@@frz_-casual😂😂😂

[@alxx292]

5 game win streak after this video was posted and 10-3 in their last 13 games 😹😹😹

[@WillyKillya]

He said near the end he thinks they will improve, but especially since they are all getting older they still have a low ceiling

[@tkgrant7]

Make that 7

[@massimopalmieri16]

8

[@user-we3sc6uv4g]

@@WillyKillya we have low ceiling but are somehow 4th in net rtg, 7th in defense and 7th in offense for the season. we're even 2nd in offense and 7th in defense and 2nd in net rtg in the last 15 games. Ig our ceilings still low

[@WillyKillya]

@@user-we3sc6uv4g wasn't my take, just passed along what the dude said in the video

[@firenut1]

Still waiting for the apology video as Harden continues his Problem Tour

[@dusk6159]

Before having problems in the Playoffs and seeing his system malfunction like always, even in his very prime in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020

[@allenross3050]

@@dusk6159 but in this video ben said nothing about the playoffs.. stop moving the goalpost

[@moogerchee2287]

nope, 2017 they lost to the second seeded spurs, 2018 and 2019 harden played very well against the best team in league history, especially in 2019 as the 4th seed. 2020, russ had covid@@dusk6159

[@Goose21]

He apologised on the podcast

[@dusk6159]

The Clippers blew up in the Playoffs and the Mavs went over them

[@colinbreland3133]

Since this video the clippers have gone on a 6 game win streak. Idk why people were so quick to write the team off but it was stupid to. Harden & the Clippers have been playing great.

[@WillyKillya]

He said near the end he thinks they will improve, but especially since they are all getting older they still have a low ceiling

[@CiabanItReal]

I've said the same thing. There was a lot of hate and dunking on them after the trade because Harden didn't ball out on day one. But really, when you stop and consider they didn't get a summer training camp together, and Harden didn't get one at all, they're basically using the first half of the season to figure out roles and positions and what their good at etc. This team is not going to look the same at the end of April as it did on day one.

[@cynkauvanyau2059]

it's even better now

[@bliesjc]

New video on "the clippers super team is working"?

[@FlaminUrethra]

They are now 9-3 in the last 12

[@paolovillorente9102]

3 weeks later, they have been the absolute best team in the league. ngl, it's kinda unfair to judge this team immediately and not give them enough time to gel and get chemistry. The Ty Lue system works and it shows in their 9 game winning streak.

[@gabriellundberg4344]

This era of basketball we're in has really put a premium on coaching talent because of the importance of modern basketball strategy, teams with subpar coaching that don't implement said strategy like the clippers, last years 76ers or the pistons perform worse than expected almost exclusively because of coaching issues

[@kunalmishra9463]

The interesting thing is Lue is widely seen as a “great coach” when the talent masks the lack of strategy - he’s an assistant with Team USA and was lauded for being one for a reason. But I’ve just never seen it, even with the heliocentric Cavs teams, what he’s done to really show talent and deserve it. He’s… liked by his players. But what else?

[@GMQuay]

Exactly bro. Lue is terrible man. He’s living off of reputation. He should have this team firing on all cylinders and they would be doing so if he implemented an offensive system that allowed the stars to mesh and build continuity.

[@bohanxu6125]

It's more complicated than that. I remember the 2021 clipper with kawhi injured somehow won against Luka's Maverick and Donavon Mitchel Rudy Gobert Jazz and advanced to western conference final. Ty lue taking a no-kawhi (and pre-harden pre-westbrook, and without lue willian) clipper to conference final is pretty impressive.

[@GMQuay]

@@bohanxu6125 that was a talented roster bro. We were down 2-0 in both of the first 2 series. Sometimes Lue takes too long to adjust.

[@andreisevostianov9525]

⁠​⁠@@kunalmishra9463agreed. Lue got his first head coach job because of LeBron who didn’t like David Blatt’s too European-like way of coaching and wanted to get a bro-coach who would listen to everything that Bron says. They fired Blatt when Cavs had the best record in the Conference (which is unheard of).

[@bambon5568]

I feel like the current Suns are in a similar place. They spent all their resources getting 3 elite scorers and pretending that they can just have 3 balls to iso with at the same time and that they don't have to worry about any other aspect of basketball. Some of these super teams really seem like they were made by some kid on 2k who just put all their favorite players on the same team

[@neospiderman2165]

But those three have had experience being elite role players and have shown to be naybe work The clippers don't Harden is too much and russ has being trying N the defense is way different

[@leungsz]

Booker, KD and Beal are a much better fit than Kawhi/PG/Harden/Westbrook. I know Beal hasn't shot the ball in the past few years, but he was also the #1 option on a bad team, so being a 3rd option should help his shot. Booker and KD are both fine off-the-ball, and it seems KD is happy to let Book run the show. In LA though, who's the best equipped to run the show? Harden should be the answer, but I just don't think letting your 3rd best guy run the entire offense is a good fit, and you are also just taking the ball out of Kawhi's and PG's hands. If it's 2017 Harden, then yes, but this is 2023 Harden now. And Russ is such a poor shooter that he's an off-ball liability. They seriously may not make the playoffs.

[@kr1st1anlol29]

The 3 have not even played 1 regular season game together. Book and KD have only lost 1 game when they both played(lost to spurs and raptros but booker was playing injured against the raptors). They have other issues but I don’t think it stems with the main 3. Some possessions do get overly stagnant though especially if KD gets on the wing in a one on one but he makes it more often the not

[@neospiderman2165]

@leungsz I say put Harden on the bench instead of russ They looked more of a coherent offense with russ b4 Harden and russ at least offball stuff now the defense is bout the same and russ rebounds HARD 1 reason paul george got his game winner 2nite It just the dumb plays both Harden n Russ make that the problem so staggering them is for the best

[@jac6548]

im still not sure why the brooklyn nets superteam with KD/kyrie/harding worked as well as it did...too bad for injuries

[@2kTeacher]

Never has a video aged worse lmao

[@dusk6159]

Luka cooking CP, Booker and the Suns

[@ESW116]

Always love thinking back to the 2004 Finals between the Lakers with Kobe, Shaq, GP and Malone getting swept the MOST blue collar NBA champions ever, by a mile. Rasheed Wallace, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Wallace, Chauncy Billups and Rip Hamilton. Incredible group of guys with little to show for career accolades yet were completely dominant because they played outstanding team ball.

[@masshysteria30]

malone wasn't in those finals games

[@blantant]

Malone injured unfortunately... Horry had a horrible shooting series

[@scrimtellect]

One thing's certain is that the Lakers didn't get swept by Pistons, it was 4-1.

[@jgray2718]

As a Laker fan I disliked that team _(the Lakers, not the Pistons; the Pistons were great)._ I know it's the Laker way to get mid- or late-career Hall-of-Fame players and just try to out-talent everyone, but I love a good homegrown team that plays together for years and has a solid identity. That Laker team was actually pretty good, though, not like these Clippers.

[@liekegerritsen1620]

@@jgray2718 I wouldnt say the Pistons were homegrown, Ben Wallace arrived in 2000 in the Grant Hill trade and is the most "homegrown". Hamilton and Billups arrived in 2002 via trade (Stackhouse) and free agency and Rasheed only joined in 2004. Prince is the only guy they drafted and he had his coming out party locking down Tracy McGrady in games 5-6-7 to enable the comeback against the Magic (yes, that was in the same year, they nearly lost in the first round but after starting Prince in game 5 went on to win the championship). Still an awesome defensive juggernaut

[@ovofreak]

Clippers on a 6 game winstreak since this vid haha 😂

[@JayNot2Tuff]

8

[@pimphead22]

9

[@marlock6573]

Trying to write a team off in late November is amazing, even for today's hot take culture.

[@GeorgePerakis]

@@marlock6573 Yeah this really was the dumbest take this channel has had in a long ass while.

[@iansteelmatheson]

@@marlock6573 not at all. he's not writing them off. he's saying they'll never win a championship with a roster like this and it's true. they might win this series against the Mavs (it's currently 1-0), but they're gonna be in tough vs OKC and there's no way they would top the Nuggets, assuming both make it to the WCF

[@Oppenheimer1967]

Can we get an updated take on the Clippers? 🌝

[@Typhlosion4President]

Paul George hit a game winner moments before this video was published lmao

[@typerry33]

Great timing irrelevant non the less

[@DrProfessorWeed]

That team isn't winning a championship.

[@jeffreyxu6430]

cool still barely a playin team

[@IAWIA5]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, this team is still not a contender with their current roster

[@kendrickjenkins96]

That’s….irrelevant asf lol

[@alejandroalarcon223]

Update?

[@_veerist]

They’re quite working now Ben. 😅🤣

[@SkyDiverTO]

You guys were too eager to release this garbage. You need to come out and admit that you were wrong. That's what a fair analyst does.

[@thedailygreatness]

You need to update this. Them boys are ballin.

[@littleboythunder]

EYOOOO where's the follow up of I jumped to conclusions after 5 games?

[@JamesLee-zr1er]

This didn't age well.

[@onemanavenger6616]

He did say he believes that they’ll get better with time and time has passed

[@GeorgePerakis]

@@onemanavenger6616 better with time? Broski they were already winning when he posted this.

[@Deathraze1]

This comment didn't age well.

[@amorgan310]

So when are you gonna make the new version of this? Lol

[@Celticsnation412]

Might’ve dropped this one too early bud

[@ganeshs8522]

This type of take is no better than what ESPN puts out.

[@zacharygotreaux9776]

They’re gonna lose to the Mavericks in the first round.

[@dusk6159]

You're worse than ESPN, the Mavs got the choking Clippers out

[@ganeshs8522]

@@dusk6159 no kawhi bud

[@dusk6159]

@@ganeshs8522 Kawhi is NEVER on the floor. RIP the Clippers that didn't work at all

[@toomanyteethes]

OR and hear me out. They just started playing together and retooling your entire playbook midseason for as big a talent as Harden on the fly game to game is not an easy thing to do regardless of who you have on your team.

[@Fahim321]

Exactly. Look at them now!

[@rhodwilliams7258]

This aged well 😂

[@abdurraufmjhd5000]

You fake analyst, clippers are 14-2 in their last 16 games now 😂😂😂.

[@blisstits]

This is why great playmakers like Magic, Lebron and Jokic are essential to teams that have multiple stars/ good role players.

[@neutral_10]

Luka as well

[@kanajingly8957]

That's not true at all. Team ball movement is more dominant than having just one playmaker exclusively for playmaking. Look at the 2008 celtics, 2014 spurs or the dynasty bulls and see how many playmakers they actually had vs team ball movement. I will take a team with dominant team ball movement over a team relying on 1 person exclusively to playmake all day.

[@vulcanraven9701]

I mean, if a team has multiple stars and good role players then that team is stacked asf

[@kanajingly8957]

@@vulcanraven9701 Yeah it's all about fit. superstars who can dominate off-ball usually go well with any kind of team. Even better is if they commit to defence.

[@ganeshs8522]

Thats why they got harden and thats why theyre 12-3 in their last 15.

[@localneo-graphic4647]

Harden's inability to catch and shoot is legitimately baffling. It was kind of cute with the Rockets, when he'd pass up a catch and shoot and then make a Step back, but this isn't 2017 anymore. He needs to take these shots and work on his role for the benefit of the team, because the Clippers are screwed if they don't. They've gone from looking like the beneficiaries of a super trade for PG and Kawhi to clowns that gave away Shai and their future.

[@phamawa]

I'd say it's more unwillingness rather than inability. I watched some highlights recently and he does ok catch and shoot taking passes from PG

[@haroldjayledda5566]

lol harden is 50% on a catch n shoot 3s

[@CrimsonHeart3]

He is shooting 40% from 3, are you even watching?

[@zacharydegraeve5264]

@@haroldjayledda5566but imagine if he shot more he’s consistently turning down multiple open catch and shoot shots a game just to produce something worse. With his shooting a wide open catch and shoot three is the best option they have he shouldn’t be looking for anything else when he’s left open

[@user-co4fj1fl5o]

He's catching and shooting more with the Clippers than he has in his career.

[@fekorak]

Aged like milk :)

[@knep24]

I'd like to see them run two separate lineups. Harden and kawhi get a lineup, and russ and PG get a lineup. Play PG Kawhi and Harden 30 minutes a game. You always have top-level scoring on the floor, solve the one ball problem, and should keep the guys fresher by playing less minutes.

[@davidng8870]

They have been doing more of this The issues are fixable imo. The most glaring one is not taking open threes. I think they are doing it for different reasons (eg Harden is simply uncomfortable with them, 213 maybe deferring and trying to take turns, and Mann simply in his own head) but this is starting to change. Harden is taking more of them recently.

[@Supermoneygang12]

Playing harden for 30 mins in 2023🤣🤣this is why you’re just a fan

[@sevsthepokey]

You saying he deserves more????? @@Supermoneygang12

[@moogerchee2287]

do u even watch clippers ball? they are fucking playing harden and kawhi together, russ and pg together. the russ and pg lineup loses points every time

[@davidlee4985]

@@Supermoneygang12 this aged like milk LMFAOOOOOOOO here comes the "watch the playoffs" excuses from da casual

[@Schmoggi99215]

Man, I really hope someone rescues PG from this team. Could still be beneficial if the Clipps get some shooters in return. There are just too many people that need the ball on that team. A selfmade issue that nearly every fan seemed to spot even before they traded for Harden, but somehow the clips front office/ Ballmer dont get it.

[@josehidalgo1199]

i believe the front office just wants to be on the news and have the team not disappear from the media. The harden trade dont make a sense with the composition of the team

[@blakefrancisboggs7526]

"Who are they gonna guard?"- PG

[@dimedropperpod]

Rescues????? From a franchise where he’s gotten what ever he wants????

[@t4d0W]

@@dimedropperpod legit dude did his time in OKC to get a brokered deal to arrive back in LA where wanted to play and shit. If anything its the Clippers who gotta save themselves from PGs price tag and his injury history.

[@dimedropperpod]

I'm a Clipper fan bro, i love PG but i hate how soft people are on stars. IT's disgusting. They're holding our frnachise hostage and just adding their friends to make up for the fact that they can't stay healthy@@t4d0W

[@kungfukenny9300]

This needs to be updated. 9 game winning streak as we speak.

[@rainsworth-]

aged like milk

[@oskarnogalski8178]

This is why the Warriors were so unique and insane during that 2017-19 stretch, because all of the players could play-make, and they were pretty much a team of primary scorers (minus Dray, the generational defender and menace). However, if you were to make a big three super-team, you need two big time scorers, of which one would be willing to sacrifice for the other to play-make or spot up, and (at least) one defensive menace. This has worked really well in the past (Bulls 1996, Miami 2012, Celtics 2008, and more).

[@yungtago9161]

Ironically they would have been a lot better off just trading Mann and keeping Covington and Batum. They're a very undersized team now when before they had multiple playable wings who could make up for that. Also think they'll be better when Plumlee gets back since he's a lot better in the short roll situations you mentioned

[@xavierb9061]

No bad idea without harden depending on kawhi big numbers leads injury.

[@user-co4fj1fl5o]

Their starting lineup is top 3 in the league once Mann was back from injury

[@Kewon14]

idk if the stats support this but I feel like harden dramatically slowed the pace aswell. In the half court, I like the pick and roll but not providing rim pressure like Russ was before the trade seems to make a dramatic difference.

[@russellchung3119]

Right on the money analysis

[@johndavis9321]

Yup harden hAS pretty much always been a more methodical half court player ideally this would work for the clippers with how old they are

[@gabriellundberg4344]

My hottest take is that the Clippers would be better if they cut Harden from the team, my takes are usually not that spicy but I feel it in my bones.

[@moogerchee2287]

worst take ive ever seen@@gabriellundberg4344

[@Heartandsouljah]

@@gabriellundberg4344 get ya bones checked

[@SuperAgentWashington]

In the modern NBA, role players are more important than ever given the fluidity of the game, the emphasis on versatility, and three point shooting being so important. The days of two or three great players getting you a chip are long over.

[@moogerchee2287]

yeah, but the clippers role players are good. zubac, t mann, norm powell, plumlee, coffey, russ

[@xiAMGeno]

Harden has been letting those catch and shoots fly the past few games and it's helped a ton. He's really good at them too it makes no sense why he isn't comfortable shooting them

[@PhilPopovich]

Not that he isn’t comfortable…… HE IS SELFISH, in doesn’t want his teammates to add assists off his open looks to have more total assists then him at the end of game!!! It’s obvious

[@haroldjayledda5566]

​@@PhilPopovichlol what a dumb take 😂😂😂

[@Cynsham]

Knowing Harden, it’s likely more to do with ego than ability. The dude could be a lethal catch and shoot guy or be a great 6th man for this team, but his ego won’t let him accept what he perceives as a “lesser role”

[@jdf3972]

​@@Cynsham12 assists yesterday, so selfish

[@moogerchee2287]

damn so selfish, averaging 10 assists@@PhilPopovich

[@bcarlizzle]

I wish this included some stats on the different offensive looks of the clippers. How good is Harden pick and roll compared to PG and Kawaii iso? How healthy is the Harden System?

[@thelegendoof8744]

2 weeks later and I can confidently say that the harden system is doing just fine lol

[@xander_szn]

clippers on an 8 game winning streak since this video was uploaded

[@ScytheFlame]

SCARY HOURS BOY

[@jarodhopwood1744]

7-0 since this video lol

[@endah08]

Having an ISO heavy team is one thing, but ISO heavy with your best player taking 15 shots? No way. When they move the ball you start to see it really working, but when they hesitate and let Russ or Harden get into ISO, it stagnates everything

[@lukechiarieri3269]

Love your videos. Listened all the time at work

[@lukechiarieri3269]

And podcast*

[@bumshka21]

Ty Lue's offenses have NEVER featured cutting or motion PG and Kawhi are iso players while Harden isn't a spot-up shooter. Its ironic that Harden wanted to leave the best coach he's had since D'Antoni, just to go for another glorified legacy coach of Lebron's success

[@russellchung3119]

That's true until the beginning of this season. The first few games of the season with RoCo and Batum rather than a stagnant Harden and older PJ Tucker, the Clippers had a lot more cutting and slashing to the basket and was showing promise. Then, they just traded it away to get even more isolation ball, the thing they were trying to move away from

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

Tyron Lue without Kawhi Leonard coached the Clippers to the conference Finals….. don’t be delusional

[@2kolbe010]

@@russellchung3119i love it

[@j-us-t_be-in-g]

Look at the superstar players he has had to coached. Why use those when teams, iso wise, can't stop your all-star players.

[@EnTiempo824]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing. Facts man and some of these hypercritical takes from these people just typing on their phones/keyboards is insane. The audacity 😂

[@Lahi122]

Apology video with tears now!!!!

[@Angelicpizza]

who else came back here after the clippers winstreak 😂

[@letanefonoti3]

How much better would they be if they just shot with confidence once they're open? I see all 4 of these guys pass on open shots by waiting for something (it's not clear what most of the time). I think Ty Lue is a great coach. I wonder what the adjustments will be off ball going forward

[@Taziod]

"And when nothing does, he throws a hot potato to Westbrook who's open for a reason" - That joke floored me well written video

[@liftyohands3795]

Why are your videos sooo good. Such detail, in so many clips. . . great work 👏🏽

[@glovs4188]

Agree. The clippers team before the trade was balanced. They just needed a better center. But front office is simply too dumb, they gave up their 2 best role players and great defenders in batum and roco for another redundant ball handler that plays poor defense is useless offball.

[@russellchung3119]

I agree with everything u said except for them needing a better center. I think what they really needed was a PF that can hold his own against bigs, which would allow Tinkering Ty to use his small ball lineups more effectively.

[@GMQuay]

Harden raises their ceiling bro.

[@jordancromwell]

@@GMQuay By being a redudant ball handler that plays poor defense and is useess offball. Almost exactly what the OP said. Clippers were better before him my guy

[@GMQuay]

@@jordancromwell they weren’t moving off the ball before him lol , I’m telling you it’s scheme issues.

[@Ivander85]

@@russellchung3119 Idk why people kept seeing the C as their problem position. Zubac is perfect for a team with 3 ball dominant guys. He sets solid screens, he rebounds and defends the paint. They have Mason Plumlee as a back-up and now Daniel Their as well. Very solid rotation. People just keep disrespecting Zubac.

[@frankdaniel5216]

I’ll be honest. This offense looks disgusting 🤢

[@Sean.Cordes]

As a Nuggets fan - it's absolutely soulless basketball. Just literally my-turn-your-turn, no movement, no real interesting wrinkles. Nothing.

[@mercutiomurphy2743]

hi@@Sean.Cordes

[@Davos-st8ok]

Damn, exposed within the fortnight. Not very bright to make such a grand thesis based on a small sample size of games eh Ben?

[@bajaj607]

He hates Harden

[@allenross3050]

@@bajaj607 most white nba voters/analysts do.. its why harden only has the one 1 mvp when he should have 2 at worst

[@theTECHIEE]

CRAZY TIMING

[@user-mt7ym7bv3v]

“Don’t work”

[@dukiino739]

Posting any video talking about the clippers is dangerous. if you talk about them being good they lose the next game and if you criticize them they make some miraculous play and win the next game. pure whiplash

[@russellchung3119]

Literally just happened today 😂. PG bomb against the Warriors with 9 seconds on the clock.

[@moogerchee2287]

L

[@moogerchee2287]

happening every day now!@@russellchung3119

[@dukiino739]

@@moogerchee2287 trash ass laker team 10th seed lil bro, enjoy wathcing lebron leave next year btw LMAO, you probs just a bandwagon fan anyway huh?

[@airborne_seal]

This team did better with Russ starting before Harden came along. Harden needs to take the ego hit and come off the bench to the tune of 25mins a game and also be the 3rd option behind PG and Kawhi. That duo can work really well together and PG has shown his playmaking abilities in these last couple years so I think the keys should go to him and have Russ, PG, Kawhi, Mann and Zu as their main lineup. Sure, the spacing goes a bit, but if they can put Russ in short roll situations it stops teams from loading up off of him and having Harden off the bench and being a 3rd option gives them (hopefully) more of a burst off the bench and a guy who can be the sole creator when PG and Kawhi hit the bench together.

[@russellchung3119]

1000% agree.

[@Supermoneygang12]

Let’s be real here Harden and Westbrook aren’t on OKC anymore lol I’d rather have good rookie talent at this point

[@xavierb9061]

Just horrible take. Russ was shooting 40% fron 3 and beat no1. Drop was coming. Harden is russ replacement

[@jojoprocess2820]

Yes surround PG and kawhi with 3 non shooters that'll worn great

[@airborne_seal]

@@jojoprocess2820 could easily put Powell in instead of Mann but Russ had good shooting splits to start the year and is still capable of putting together 15 a night. They can go small with Tucker at the 5 and go Harden Powell PG Kawhi Tucker if they want to or they can go Russ Powell PG Kawhi Zu and either involve Russ in the PnR or give him the playmaker role while running sets to get PG and Kawhi good shots and touches.

[@sdgedfegw6508]

its working now

[@deego21]

Update???

[@hemchanveasna1130]

any updates on the clippers brosky?

[@dr.wongburger2947]

Seems like they should run some kind of triangle offense, keeps their big 3 in motion and puts pressure on the defense to keep up.

[@victorminkov5183]

I think the best example of integrating a lot of offensive talent together was the earlier bird Celtics. You essentially had three high scoring bigs on the team but it just worked. It was hard to deal with the lakers super offense but the Celtics basically had 4 guys who could all play the same position but found ways to have a great offense none the less.

[@tdvu]

Definition of a knee-jerk video when you could've just let the whole season play out.

[@teemulehtonen5106]

Now they are on 7 game winning streak. You present yourself as a "professional" and "knowledgeable" in social media, which seems to be working for masses, you may even sell your patreon program for some kids. But not giving this team an adjustment period more than ~10 games really speaks volumes for your lack of understanding in professional sports and how much there really is different pieces and obstacles in team sports. And if I had to guess, you haven't studied the theory of coaching, or even better, you haven't coahced a professional team ever in your life, but ofcourse you know better from your home sofa than Tyron Lue...

[@marlock6573]

The so-called "professionals" on ESPN were saying that Kawhi should retire and that Harden was going to be playing in China next year, so I can't really get upset at KZbinrs for having bad takes.

[@dusk6159]

This comment, reaction and bile are wild. There must be a grudge with Ben's quality and success. Especially considering how the Clippers, in the Playoffs, won't win in the end.

[@teemulehtonen5106]

@@dusk6159 Strange layout in your comment, if you have something to notify me answer to me directly. Why wouldn't I comment on his dreadful takes. He's a cognitive scientist, he absolutely should know better the obstacles there are in team building situations. What I'm implying he's jumping on the Clippers hate wagon for clicks, which isn't the professional approach he's trying to declare himself in this NBA segment. But I understand sports are interesting industry, it's so out there that everyone you included think they have some knowledge about the X&Os, but the reality is different.

[@jioreyes5838]

Great vid

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

Clippers slowly but surely IMPROVE their CHEMISTRY & 6 W STRAIGHT NOW

[@Felipinhu83]

This is a big problem with youtube sports media and analysts, since you have to keep your channel constantly on peoples faces so you'll get paid, there's no time for natural development on things, so everything seems like the end of the world, or you guys make it out to be, when in reality, 9 out of 10 times is just an overreaction, the Timberwolves last season and this season is also a perfect example.

[@ohde7621]

Not too late to delete this 😮‍💨

[@samstrom9632]

This gives me hope actually. Creating advantages and not capitalizing is a solvable problem as they get more comfortable. It would be way worse if they weren't generating advantages in the first place. They are 500 right now after 20 games, and the West is pretty open. I still think they have a chance to put it together and become a dangerous playoff team. They probably need one more forward to play well off the bench though.

[@Socijala02]

“….Westbrook, who’s open for a reason” lol

[@fateriddle14]

Harden by eye test makes the offense more "static", and every team is playing "motion" offense now.

[@haroldjayledda5566]

if the clippers have a athletic Center, harden can easily make an alleyhoop play w a 2man pick n roll

[@moogerchee2287]

ok bro

[@Matts_Ancient_Coins]

You spoke about this waaaay too early.

[@CountFisco]

"Westbrook who is open for a reason" hahahaha

[@roc2eazy]

And the same LA quartet came back from a 22 pt deficit against GSW tonight 12/2 . This Vid still will age well

[@Heartandsouljah]

Aged like fine milk 😁

[@user-jx2gw4cn2j]

8 years ago the clippers would be crazy PG, Westbrook, Harden, Kawhi

[@BigBlackCantonese]

Shit even 4 years

[@octaveg8056]

@@BigBlackCantonese shit even 2 years lmao

[@samuelloetscher1815]

They'd be better for sure, but most of the points of this video would still apply

[@august6281]

The current Clippers are still crazy in 2023 but for a different reason😅

[@ziggle5000]

Almost like theres a reason they were able to get two of those players for a bag of potatoes but couldn't have in the past.

[@RavneetSingh7]

You make a lot of great points. Great video once again! What do you think if the Clippers ran more PnR action with their best players (ex: Harden-Kawhi PnR / Russ-PG PnR), and not with Harden and Zubac? That way they can stagger Harden and Russ, which they realized is for the best it could create more opportunities for their best players. You can argue that Steph and KD should have more PnR when they were playing together. Sometimes a big wing in ball screen action is pretty dangerous still. That being said, the clippers need to move without the ball more and that would fix a lot of their problems as well. Doesn't seem like a lot of intelligent cutting.

[@stephenigbeka8799]

....while he plays footsies in the corner ... Cold but true. The problem is if players need the ball to be effective, it is not an easy transition to make if the team demands it. I also see some foundation issues, not looking up when dribbling results in missed opportunities, repeatedly. A lot of holes and problems but it's the NBA. These guys can adjust but again, the superteams don't always work. Good luck to the clippers.

[@nbaman90xx]

This aged horribly

[@jondakeyz1468]

Aged like Milk lol what an idiot

[@OneLove7491]

Love the channel, but this aged poorly very quickly

[@YDB2G]

Too early to say. We saw flashes of success with them winning 4 straight games but also the 5 game losing streak early on did have a significant impact

[@blacknetsmed]

The 2004 Lakers wasn't a SuperTeam. It was still just Shaq & Kobe with 2 Name Brand Role players. Pierce-KG-Allen was a low profile SuperTeam.

[@EazyBucketz]

Basketball strategy has gained so much depth in the last 10 years and the biggest problem is that coaches aren't allowed to coach in all seriousness.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

There's a great video that pretty much shows that finding and nurturing good coaches is the next great market inefficiency to take advantage of after the 3 point revolution: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIvUeIJooLZoedk

[@gianlucaromeo1372]

This video aged bad...

[@mrachampagne]

lol

[@CiabanItReal]

People were WAY to harsh on the clippers after this trade, as of watching this video on 12/17/2023 they sit 15-10 6th in the west ahead of NOLA and the Lakers, and 1/2 game behind the Kings for 5th.

[@arkelon]

The ending of this video really reminded me of a radio show called "Under the Influence" by Terry O'Reilly.

[@georgebrown5109]

Time to remake

[@dex7891]

This aged like piss

[@koenvanlommel5281]

please do one on the magic :) love the content

[@Nca021]

Kawhi is one of the most dangerous iso player in the history of the game. Most of the shots he's been missing are shots he makes 9 times out of 10. Honestly the problem was that kawhi early on wasn't being quick and decisive enough especially in the post. They've always been an iso team but ty lue one of the best coaches itl so he always comes up with adjustments. They'll be alright offensively cuz later in the szn and playoffs when kawhi's touches increase they will be dangerous. Biggest problem is their defense rn.

[@Nca021]

And that elite shooter thats good even with close outs you talking ab, they just gave him away for no reason. Eric gordan...

[@mariomasv]

Aged like milk in the hot sun.

[@Lor_Sterling]

Always solid content! Even if i dont comment im always tuning in

[@johnnguyen9963]

actual peak basketball content

[@zachbailey8151]

I feel like they should be suitors for Poeltl if possible. A good rim protector who can pass well in the short roll and finish would suit Harden more

[@lucyz-ho9vf]

eat your words

[@ShinMadero]

The footage of them having WIDE open shots and just waiting for the defense to recover so they can work the iso are wild.

[@giom3248]

The issue completing an advantage is in the mind of the player executing; none of them is used to be a secondary player and make secondary player decision (skip pass, instant 3-pt etc). That's the issue of this specific group of all nbas

[@NoRealRsn]

Honestly, I think they will figure it out. All these guys have the motivation to win the ring. They are still in that phase of trying to figure each other out and not one of them is trying to take the next step up. Russ took a step back to make this job easier for the big 3 but they just have to make the magic on the court.