The Bills Funky Formation Fooling the NFL

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Thinking Football

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@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball 2 күн бұрын
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@aderounmuadedeji183
@aderounmuadedeji183 2 күн бұрын
Allen's accuracy has been my favorite thing about his game this year. insane throws into insane windows
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball Күн бұрын
It's really been on another level this year
@wuan4220
@wuan4220 Күн бұрын
it’s them zyns
@quinnjackson9252
@quinnjackson9252 Күн бұрын
I think they’ve really nailed the type of weapon that Allen needs. He doesn’t need super flashy guys that are as toxic and narcissistic as they are talented, he just needs guys who are hard working, selfless, and have great hands. The Bills most talented weapon is Amari Cooper, and he’s only on the team to scare defenses into covering him, opening things up. Teams are frustrated because they know if they don’t lock down Cooper, he will make magic happen with anything Allen throws his way, but that if they do cover him, the Bills have tons of other players who will make something happen. Johnson, Hollins, Kincaid, Davis, Coleman, Knox, all of those guys are on the same page and are good at catching the ball. Allen is surrounded by big bodies with good catching abilities, and he’s only knows that his elite O-line and personal escapability will allow enough time for him to find someone open, run to take care of it himself, or at the very least avoid a negative play. The only real exceptions are Cook and Shakir. Shakir has shorter arms and can’t reach for things as well as some, but his skillset allows him to really shine with an insanely low drop rate, being that nimble and solid slot guy who can really beat teams up. At the same time, Cook has been a fantastic back, making this an incredibly diverse offense. Seriously, the Bills are way more complete on offense than anyone could’ve expected. Bring pressure, the O-line will pick it up and Allen will beat you. Take Shakir and Cooper out of the game, the Bills will bring out Ty Johnson. Try to stop the run game, Allen finds Coleman down field or checks it down to Hollins. Force Allen out of the pocket and Knox and Kincaid magically find themselves open and go for 25. Switch things up and watch James Cook cook. Get to third or fourth and one and watch Josh Allen turn himself into a human battering ram and push right through you for the touchdown. Gotta love how creative this team’s diverse and complete talent, elite O-line, amazing OC, and MVP QB has allowed them to be!!
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 Күн бұрын
hi: this should not surprise you the least. Jim Kelly was run and shooting even back in 90's. Run and Shoot is the same as this type of formation: you do no huddle and you run confusion and hit weak spots where the defense cannot cover. This is no surprise that Bill are still good at finding the holes.
@sprawlz6466
@sprawlz6466 Күн бұрын
Actually the advanced metrics say he was less accurate this year than he has been for the past 4 seasons. It really just boils down to the fact that his offensive coordinator isn’t a total dunce anymore and he can finally run a consistent offense. I hope the Bills manage to keep Brady around so Allen doesn’t have to learn a brand new system for the 3rd time in 3 years.
@Boxinglobster
@Boxinglobster 2 күн бұрын
only 3 minutes in and you're reminding me why i love this channel, you make schemes i could never imagine seem simple
@davideberhardt4977
@davideberhardt4977 Күн бұрын
so glad this showed up in my KZbin feed. great breakdown of this stuff. way above my head but very educational. I actually chucked at one of the samples as it was amazing how the defense got so confused. thanks for making this.
@pankration4444
@pankration4444 2 күн бұрын
also not talked about enough is their WR's willingness to block on run plays. all of their WRs, especially Mack Hollins, will throw themselves at defenders constantly to get Allen and Cook extra yards
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball Күн бұрын
Gotta block to get the rock
@sprawlz6466
@sprawlz6466 Күн бұрын
And they take no plays off. They run clear out routes like their life depends on it. Really a great culture in Buffalo rn
@SeanL-jw9rr
@SeanL-jw9rr 3 сағат бұрын
Hollins is putting in overtime every single week. Loved the move back in the summer. Really loving it now...
@bobbymuir
@bobbymuir 2 күн бұрын
Been a huge Khalil fan for the last couple years. I was super excited to see him get to have a bigger, security blanket role. And he’s been great this year
@baumer8425
@baumer8425 20 сағат бұрын
Thank you for making these videos. I have not been a big football fan for most of my life after the Bills 0-4 during my younger years. I've been on the fringes and the game was a mystery to me. Your videos reveal the complexity that they can't explain during a live game. Very well done. My mom was a huge football fan, watching your videos and appreciating the Xs and Os (and Jimmies and Joes) brings me closer to her memory. Let's Go Buffalo.
@Wayloss1
@Wayloss1 17 сағат бұрын
In Buffalo it's called the "Snow Plow" not the tush push! But great video
@stefanrabicano
@stefanrabicano 2 күн бұрын
Teaching defenders to deal with dirty bunches is a nightmare! Too many variations and too much for defenders to remember all at once - it makes you play vanilla drop backs, but then you get toasted because they know exactly what you are running. Very Clever stuff
@21Kolb
@21Kolb 2 күн бұрын
it's kind of sad how some coordinators don't consider everything when it comes to play calling. I know play calling is difficult but damn lol
@Papaxan11
@Papaxan11 Күн бұрын
@@21Kolbyou can’t exactly consider everything when the idea is to have a play called weighing strengths/weaknesses (personnel) with circumstance. Sounds contradictory, but you can’t prepare for everything.
@21Kolb
@21Kolb Күн бұрын
@ thats true but at the same time the lack of creativity with some of these coordinators needs to be studied.
@andrewjanus8009
@andrewjanus8009 Күн бұрын
Lack of football IQ is why defenders are out of position. Watch film🤷‍♂️
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 Күн бұрын
hi: this should not surprise you the least. Jim Kelly was run and shooting even back in 90's. Run and Shoot is the same as this type of formation: you do no huddle and you run confusion and hit weak spots where the defense cannot cover. This is no surprise that Bill are still good at finding the holes./
@MichaelFarnum
@MichaelFarnum Күн бұрын
I played football in high school. I should do a breakdown channel like this. j/k I love this channel. Appreciate how you break everything down to such simple concepts. Keep going.
@Attunahbrix
@Attunahbrix Күн бұрын
I've been a Bills fan forever! And the fact that you've covered them on your channel; confirms my belief, that they're going in the right direction. I appreciate the work that you put into these videos. Best wishes for continued success for your channel in 2025 and beyond. ~Dex™.
@aw_shucks17
@aw_shucks17 Күн бұрын
shakir rams td is insane from the top down view lol 2:31
@SoLZeroX
@SoLZeroX Күн бұрын
Top tier analysis… this was fantastic.
@jaysartori9032
@jaysartori9032 Күн бұрын
Josh for MVP let go Bills!!
@aaronsmith9472
@aaronsmith9472 Сағат бұрын
Great break down. This is the first video I seen of yours, now I'm gonna find more. (I'd love to see the Xs & Os of how Brady & Allen have evolved this season. Baltimore's Cover 0 heavy blitz and disguised rushes/coverage, followed by Houston's simple Cover 1 / 1 high middle close both gave the Bills FITS. I was worried the receivers talent wasn't going to beat man coverage after that. But then all the teams tried it. Lions, Jets, Miami, Patriots, even the Rams 3-4 & KC almost abandoned the heaviest zone D in the league for man, and the Bills were then able to beat it. Brady's formations seemed to work. It was worrying, cuz Allen has ALWAYS been great against man (most dual threats are - there's generally an open lane to take if the X didn't get open). But since those early bad games against man coverage, how have they been beating it since?
@stevenjeffcoat49
@stevenjeffcoat49 6 сағат бұрын
This channel is outstanding!
@oneboxboi1091
@oneboxboi1091 Күн бұрын
Joe Brady is an offensive genius, it’s crazy that a run heavy offense and getting rid of his best WR has helped Josh Allen achieve a new level of play at QB, this offense has helped him to win his first MVP (we all know he’s winning it, we’ve known for weeks)
@looseygooseymars
@looseygooseymars Күн бұрын
Thanks for the Bills coverage, this was a great watch! Love your vids
@mrow7598
@mrow7598 10 сағат бұрын
This reminds me of so many Tom Brady motions before the snap. People complain about the 5ish yard throws but the YAC they got is like many of the plays you've shown. And I say who cares how you win as long as you win.
@mathieuguillet4036
@mathieuguillet4036 13 сағат бұрын
When these Bills are clicking, they are just about unstoppable.
@TheAseer2020
@TheAseer2020 Күн бұрын
On some of the passing routes the receivers are close enough to become an offload receiver for a tackled ball carrier. Rugby tactics
@Ducatipete
@Ducatipete 6 сағат бұрын
Great voice on this video. GO BILLS!
@gustavocados
@gustavocados 2 сағат бұрын
"I would be scared for any team that has to play them in Buffalo." Me, a Broncos fan: I'm just happy to be here 🙂
@eriktout5084
@eriktout5084 Күн бұрын
Awesome video. Hollins is turning into one of the best signings Beane has made during the off season.
@mattheweaton1420
@mattheweaton1420 Күн бұрын
This is the best breakdown of the Bills offense. Their plays create organized chaos, and Allen has the skill to adjust on the fly and the athleticism to make big throws in motion or go for it himself. Defenses can't handle it.
@jbarrett1460
@jbarrett1460 Күн бұрын
Well done! Excellent voice and explanation!
@jimbeau64
@jimbeau64 Күн бұрын
Great report. Go BILLS!!!!!
@MBrauny12
@MBrauny12 Күн бұрын
I was thinking about something very similar the other day with motioning into trips. especially when you consider motioning tight ends and half backs into trips
@SecondWindStories
@SecondWindStories Күн бұрын
Fantastic video fam. Please do a video on the Tampa Bay Bucs offense and what Liam Coen is doing out there.
@John-j1u8n
@John-j1u8n Күн бұрын
finally a video about the bills. they’ve been at the top of the game for five years now and i think this is the first video yall made about them
@steviesoprano
@steviesoprano Күн бұрын
Luther Burden playing Shakir's role would make him an all-timer lmao.
@benjulesrun9057
@benjulesrun9057 8 сағат бұрын
If I see this I will be referring to it as the Brady Bunch
@kentcarmack5879
@kentcarmack5879 Күн бұрын
It's almost like the bills have 13 wins. Go bills
@stuarttupp3541
@stuarttupp3541 Күн бұрын
So, basically, you overload one or two defenders with too many assignments and have one of your receivers break in an unexpected way. Sounds like a great way to deal with most zone-based defenses.
@tkinnc1
@tkinnc1 Күн бұрын
Good breakdown
@J-K-A
@J-K-A Сағат бұрын
You need to do an analysis of how Baltimore dismantled this. I don’t have the all 22 so I couldn’t watch it. But they neutralized the pic like action Buffalo got from these formations, releases, and route combinations very effectively
@texansfan0528
@texansfan0528 Күн бұрын
Bro you break it down so well. Keep it up dog
@dannyMCDelight
@dannyMCDelight 3 сағат бұрын
The Josh Allen era is now.
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 Күн бұрын
hi: this should not surprise you the least. Jim Kelly was run and shooting even back in 90's. Run and Shoot is the same as this type of formation: you do no huddle and you run confusion and hit weak spots where the defense cannot cover. This is no surprise that Bill are still good at finding the holes.
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball Күн бұрын
This and Run and Shoot KGun are entirely different tactics Both great, but they don't share a lot of similarities apart from shotgun
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 Күн бұрын
@@ThinkingFootball run and shoot was good. Jim Kelly should have a spot in our hearts due to our love for him. Josh is also good, and his offense is good. Both are good. Bills are blessed.
@andrewjanus8009
@andrewjanus8009 Күн бұрын
Football IQ man. Being fast and strong is cool and all. But will you be in the right position when needed? Thats why alot of defenders get smoked🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@robvasey4149
@robvasey4149 Сағат бұрын
Bills offense has been high octane since 2020. Allen was responsible for 6 TD's vs. the Rams a few weeks back but they still lost the game. They allowed 42 points VS Detroit as well. If Allen puts the Bills up 100 points, you can be rest assured the Defense will lose the game final score 110-100.
@jefftaylor8644
@jefftaylor8644 Күн бұрын
Hope the bills win it all. Not likely, but the fans deserve a super bowl 1 time
@topleftfromtime
@topleftfromtime Күн бұрын
Respect dawg 🫡
@francismoran1230
@francismoran1230 Күн бұрын
fascinating
@drucartier2164
@drucartier2164 Күн бұрын
I wonder how this offense would fare against Brian Flores almost nonstop pressure
@tffury2007attack
@tffury2007attack 8 сағат бұрын
The throw at 12:03 was absolutely disgusting
@AidenKrumreig-h2g
@AidenKrumreig-h2g 2 күн бұрын
ive waited years for this…
@sdghomero
@sdghomero Күн бұрын
This reads as a well deserved love letter to the 2024 Bills.
@dstephens183
@dstephens183 Күн бұрын
14:44 😂
@andrewjanus8009
@andrewjanus8009 Күн бұрын
Buddy cooked once that OC leaves
@WhoTFisICEMAN
@WhoTFisICEMAN 2 күн бұрын
Hopefully they can shut the Chiefs up in the AFCCG
@BiggoSuave
@BiggoSuave 2 күн бұрын
Except chiefs have a defense that can take the ball away, Allen has to play a clean game
@sprawlz6466
@sprawlz6466 Күн бұрын
@@BiggoSuave he always does. I hope the Bills defense doesn’t get completely ran through again lol
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 Күн бұрын
Apart from the Pats apparently
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball Күн бұрын
They played all backups and vanilla script
@stnicholas4116
@stnicholas4116 Күн бұрын
Brady bunches
@MWBowen403
@MWBowen403 2 күн бұрын
Hopefully the NFL doesn't ban pre-snap motions
@caw_34
@caw_34 2 күн бұрын
that would be horrible for the league
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball Күн бұрын
Never happening
@Zahrul3
@Zahrul3 Күн бұрын
Quad bunch formations aren't unique to the Bills. They just have Josh Allen and Dawson Knox
@smokymountaincards1496
@smokymountaincards1496 Күн бұрын
Buffalo isn't "upstate."
@21Kolb
@21Kolb 2 күн бұрын
ik you are tired of me saying things about the steelers, but man joe makes it look so easy. why don't other coordinators go this deep into the playbook. Arthur Smith is one of the most boneheaded OC's ive seen. There's no way you can sit here as an OC and not get jealous.
@yimigocrazy2431
@yimigocrazy2431 Күн бұрын
He’s just not creative
@t4d0W
@t4d0W 21 сағат бұрын
Creativity helps when you have one of the most dynamic QBs who can effortlessly throw rockets from within 50 yards without having their foot set while on the move and has the athleticism/size to run through DBs on scrambles/designed runs. Also helps the interior of the O-line is pretty buff so despite the video being about the Bills pass game in these condensed looks, they are actually a pretty good run team to begin with. Since they bunch the defense up and use speed/misdirection to have Cook or Allen run the ball for good yardage. The Steelers don't have as much talent on offense and thus are really limited with what they can consistently do. Sure they have TEs that can work as moving linemen but they don't have the interior O-line for run blocking along with the explosive and efficient RBs to punish defenses playing 2 safety looks.
@yimigocrazy2431
@yimigocrazy2431 21 сағат бұрын
@@t4d0W 49ers and dolphins make it work…
@advancedhoodcleaningsoluti9353
@advancedhoodcleaningsoluti9353 19 сағат бұрын
​@yimigocrazy2431 yea only both are home for the playoffs...the Bills have way more talent, especially QB
@yimigocrazy2431
@yimigocrazy2431 18 сағат бұрын
@@advancedhoodcleaningsoluti9353 wrong. They have more talent on offense they just don’t have Josh Allen
@therunnerxj4551
@therunnerxj4551 5 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't emphasis wide open too much. Sure it does happen but not consistently. This WR group struggles with man on man separation. Also The bills have been doing that sneak longer than the Eagles.
@lefteyefalconeer
@lefteyefalconeer Күн бұрын
Video about "wide open receivers"... proceeds to show a lot of completed pass to receivers that are not wide open from the team with the smallest average separation in the league.
@Ray-dl5mp
@Ray-dl5mp Күн бұрын
What? The whole first part of the video was wide open receivers.
@johnnyasel7678
@johnnyasel7678 21 сағат бұрын
bottom of the screen 7:00
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball 20 сағат бұрын
Absolutely roasted him
@realmadzero
@realmadzero 17 сағат бұрын
Toasted him but I dont think that meant to be a read unfortunately. Allen never checked it
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball 8 сағат бұрын
Definitely not the first read
@ChrisG9978
@ChrisG9978 20 сағат бұрын
I disagree...Bills WR's do NOT get wide open. JA17 simply throws the ball accurately into the tightest windows imaginable. It seems the tighter the window, the better Josh feeds that ball in. No other QB can do what Allen does.
@realmadzero
@realmadzero 17 сағат бұрын
Yes, you're about Allen but they are clearly getting wide open. These route concepts and motions are amazing
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball 8 сағат бұрын
You tried paying attention to like the 5 minute mark??
@NewYorkNYKer
@NewYorkNYKer Күн бұрын
I like all the things that Bills has for the offense and Allen as an option as well but defense against Mahomes and 2nd half melt down was the always the issue and lkicker and HC decision making.. Josh Allen can play lights out without support he can’t win by himself specially against Chiefs organization tactics
@jordanzantt4770
@jordanzantt4770 Күн бұрын
Yeah against teams under. 500 lol
@GovernmentIssued
@GovernmentIssued Күн бұрын
I think the Bills will win it all after what they did to KC and Detroit.
@jordanzantt4770
@jordanzantt4770 Күн бұрын
Lol until.they play the ravens or texans
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 Күн бұрын
Or Patriots 😂
@raphaeldelaghetto4
@raphaeldelaghetto4 2 күн бұрын
GoBills
@charleslamb708
@charleslamb708 Күн бұрын
The bills are not upstate it's Western New York
@ethans6560
@ethans6560 Күн бұрын
If they beat the chiefs, so be it. Well deserved. With that being said, The Kingdom is going 3 peat!!!
@Ray-dl5mp
@Ray-dl5mp Күн бұрын
Should be a fun game if it happens. I think the Bills finally have the players and smarts to compete with the Chiefs. I wouldn’t be that confident if I was a Chiefs fan. So many of their games are toss ups. It does help to have a great defense and the best tight end ever. But why wouldn’t you be confident? Everything works out for the Chiefs lately. What’s one more playoff run.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W 21 сағат бұрын
@@Ray-dl5mp lmao I still don't trust McDermott and the Bills talent defense to deal with Mahomes if he chooses to give him the ball back with under a minute left in the 4th to keep a lead. Which is why the only option the Bills have against the Chiefs in the playoffs this year is to replicate the game where they limit possessions and go absolute ball control style once they sit on a lead.
@MTSDfreezingFire
@MTSDfreezingFire Күн бұрын
About 3 minutes in you say "the boys Upstate". Please PLEASE never refer to Buffalo as "Upstate". I know NYC likes to think that everywhere in NY that's not NYC is "Upstate" but that's has never been true. "Upstate NY" is where the Adirondack mountains are. Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse are not "Upstate NY". Buffalo in particular is "Western NY".j
@ThinkingFootball
@ThinkingFootball Күн бұрын
Do you have to drive north from New (jersey) York? Then you are upstaye
@iNeedFoodStamps
@iNeedFoodStamps Күн бұрын
need that lamar film asap
@aderounmuadedeji183
@aderounmuadedeji183 2 күн бұрын
Ravens gonna beat them in Buffalo
@eddieillz425
@eddieillz425 Күн бұрын
Lamar not good in the playoffs I don’t care he playing with Henry
@PaulVisionLee
@PaulVisionLee Күн бұрын
Why were the ravens so successful at stopping them?
@topleftfromtime
@topleftfromtime Күн бұрын
Same reason the Raiders were so successful at stopping the Ravens
@Ray-dl5mp
@Ray-dl5mp Күн бұрын
The Ravens have had 5 losses this year. The Bills had 1 bad loss. Everyone can have a bad game on the road.
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