Third Party Games on GameCube - Scott The Woz Segment

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@striderjason9863 10 ай бұрын

“Pac-Man talks which implies he has organs which implies he can bleed.”

@myriadmediamusings 10 ай бұрын

Aka Scott's Spongebob collection on the Gamecube.

@Kogami 10 ай бұрын

When he said Gamecube version removed cutscenes or something I knew he was referring to his agony of the one Spongebob Gamecube game not having its opening theme lol

@Markimark151 10 ай бұрын

The small disc was the Achilles heel for the GameCube’s third party support. Even though Capcom, Activision, Ubisoft, EA, Sega supported big games on the GameCube. I wish it had GTA III, MGS 2, Kingdom Hearts, which could’ve been able to divide the game on two discs! Hideo Kojima wanted the GC port, but Konami wasn’t able to publish it due to additional costs. KH was actually demanded by Nintendo for the GC when Chain of Memories was in development, they planned a multiplayer mode, that ended up in Chain of Memories!

@mechamania 10 ай бұрын

An overkill attempt at anti-piracy that killed their console presence for a quarter century, now...

@key099able 10 ай бұрын

@@mechamaniaAgain.

@Markimark151 10 ай бұрын

@@mechamania it hurt them back then, but they finally addressed their media format shortcomings in recent consoles since the Wii.

@leonro 10 ай бұрын

@@mechamaniaNot to mention that it was extremely lazy. Nintendo just had to use the mini disc standard that cuts the capacity in 1/4 when they could have easily made the DVD just a bit smaller (or even larger) than the standard one. Then they wouldn't have had their storage capacity gimped, and it would actually require specialised equipment to burn DVDs of those sizes. Also, it's funny that they did actually develop a new disc standard for the Wii U, which was quite nice. The edge of the disc was rather smooth, and it could hold ~25GB. The problem with that console was not disc capacity, however.

@Globalastral5 10 ай бұрын

I love that the OST to the Sonic mega collection is still popular and used to this day. Those menu themes are legendary

@Gruntvc 10 ай бұрын

RE4 was revolutionary back then. Still glad I had a GameCube to experience that gem at release. Can't say the same for Die Hard Vendetta...

@aidanwatson910 10 ай бұрын

Dude NBA STREET V3 is the greatest basketball game in my opinion. I played it for hours.

@SleepyJohannes 10 ай бұрын

Billy Hatcher is such a cool game, wish they would port that game for current gen systems.

@dapperfan44 10 ай бұрын

It is also on PC if you weren't aware. I bought it from Amazon years back, they don't have it anymore though.

@SleepyJohannes 10 ай бұрын

@@dapperfan44 Well, i'm sure if I swim long enough I could find the game in the high seas. Does it run well on PC?

@dapperfan44 10 ай бұрын

@@SleepyJohannesIt does! It has Xbox buttons, but it's pretty good.

@e7193 10 ай бұрын

i played the shit out of the split screen with my siblings as a kid,, never beat the story tho

@jameslawrenson1208 10 ай бұрын

Or maybe even a sequel!

@metalbrainmextrememetalent6810 9 ай бұрын

Fight night round 2 on the GameCube. I played that game to death. Nothing better than winding up those haymakers.

@phorchybug3286 10 ай бұрын

My grandma had mostly third party with only 1 Nintendo game. It was Metroid.

@Sly88Frye 10 ай бұрын

This was an awesome segment. I wish I had played RE4 on Gamecube when my brother had it

@thenpc8400 10 ай бұрын

I wish I was alive during the GameCube era, I loved growing up with the Wii, but I’m a bit envious that I’m a little too late to enjoy GameCube games.

@LiveLXStudios 9 ай бұрын

It's like 75% nostalgia.

@sur-shiner 5 ай бұрын

If you still have your Wii, it's basically 2 GameCubes fused together

@Arcademan09 10 ай бұрын

When I was a kid i foolishly waited for a nonexistent "Kingdom Hearts" port after playing it at a cousin's house on his PS2

@nealyodude11 10 ай бұрын

Can confirm the pac-man “world” games on the GameCube were a treat back then and still are today 😌

@RazeAndSew 10 ай бұрын

Network Transmission is AMAZING!

@divagaciones1628 10 ай бұрын

A lot of people consider the GameCube version of Sonic Adventure to be bad, and sure, the Dreamcast version looks better in many ways, but I loved the DX version so much on Gamecube. Not only was it my first Sonic game (and I absolutely loved it, even the Big levels), but I was blown away by the fact that you could unlock full versions of classic Sonic games by getting the in-game emblems. Talk about awesome rewards. That was the best introduction I could've possibly asked for to the Sonic franchise as a kid.

@The_Boctor 10 ай бұрын

Speaking only in terms of the GameCube, it's a better (and slightly later) port than SA2B, too, which doesn't take advantage of the extra face buttons and keeps annoying context-sensitive actions (e.g. roll, pull lever) all on one button. SADX also bothers having the C-stick do anything at all, where SA2B just treats L and R the same way as the Dreamcast shoulder buttons, for lateral-only camera adjustment.

@littleguystar 10 ай бұрын

⁠@@The_Boctormind you SADX actually came out after SA2B, and if it wasn’t obvious, it wasn’t as rushed NEARLY as much as SA2B

@spongebobfan78 10 ай бұрын

@@The_Boctor IIRC, SA2B was developed alongside the Dreamcast original. Or at least, there's an overlap with the development time and they had little time to fully take advantage of the Gamecube's capabilities.

@Tirgo69 10 ай бұрын

Sonic Adventure is a total mess of a game, if you're going to play it it might as well be the Dreamcast version since it actually looks good.

@Tirgo69 10 ай бұрын

I will say though, at the time, DX including the Game Gear Sonic games added a lot to its value, helped justify a purchase, and incentivizes the player to keep getting emblems better than any other version of the game. Which is why it was pathetic when even this was taken out of future DX rereleases, so all you were left with was a horrible version of a Sonic game that was already mixed at best. I still bought it for PS3 and 360. Individually

@solbrando 10 ай бұрын

and the thumbnail has two of my favorite games on it lol

@SergioPL 9 ай бұрын

Splinter Cell is a great franchise, and every single game, appears on the GameCube.

@TBrizzle01 10 ай бұрын

My main takeaway from this is there just was tons of serious bangers in this generation. Something that did hurt me was Rareware's unceremonious death for the GameCube. I was a huge fan of theirs for the N64.

@mrhashbrown8283 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Scott now I know Viewtiful Joe 2 came to PS2 on my third birthday!

@D.S.handle 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, baby, that two disk Tiger Woods PGA Tour experience.

@incoherentrambling1 10 ай бұрын

Oh hey, I seen a 2 second clip of Lost Kingdoms in there, instant like.

@Dread524 9 ай бұрын

This why I got a GameCube again to play these games again

@BugsyFoga 10 ай бұрын

The titles that could actually work with what the GameCube had .

@GreatGamer64000 10 ай бұрын

Just remember the iPhone got GTA San Andreas but the GameCube couldn’t

@kn-oo8to 10 ай бұрын

Well now you gotta do third party gamecubes on games

@edferro3263 9 ай бұрын

in nascar 2003 for gamecube they cut all but 2 video interviews that would play as one of the load screens, in the other versions it’s randomized between a whole bunch of them, not very useful information for anyone but figured i’d get it out there

@GamerFunOriginallyAarush 10 ай бұрын

Super exciting!

@notturok7841 10 ай бұрын

Interesting seeing a GameCube video being uploaded . It’s been 5 days since my fiancee got me a component Kaico cable for my cube to use with my ossc and Mclassic. The visuals are jaw dropping. Mario kart double dash 4 player split screen 60 fps. Absolutely amazing

@paperluigi6132 10 ай бұрын

It really says a lot that, to this day, the GameCube version of Tales of Symphonia is still considered the best version of the game.

@aznsensation44 10 ай бұрын

Not as big of a deal as you think.. Tales of Symphonia has this FF7-esque halo around it because it's the first Tales game many people played (much like FF7 for FF games) so many people view it with nostalgia. But it objectively isn't one of the best Tales games. In fact it's hard to say it's even a top 5 Tales game. Abyss, Berseria, Arise, Vesperia and maybe Destiny II or Graces f are all considered better Tales games.

@FunkyGhost37 10 ай бұрын

Me and cousins almost beat Crystal Chronicles back then, but got stuck right before the last area(with the special barrier)

@dominiclowe3640 9 ай бұрын

I love the reds reference

@pikmints 10 ай бұрын

Crystal Chronicles with 4 players was an absolutely amazing experience. If only the remake was able to be as user-friendly as the original. Thank goodness a special dolphin makes 4 people playing the original version much easier.

@Sarutaru06 10 ай бұрын

The last time I booted up PSO on the Gamecube which I no longer have access to, I had 300+ hours of playtime on 2 seperate characters, both of which had been corrupted and releveled at least once and I had 2 other characters that were my "sisters' characters" that I leveled up so they could actually play with us. And I only played online maybe 3-4 times? Man I miss being a kid with substantial couch coop games.

@breloopharos1919 9 ай бұрын

Ps2: I'm backwards compatible and can play movies Gamecubes: I got games, games, and more games

@theguyinthere 10 ай бұрын

the Gamecube was Nintendo's last gaming console that wasn't a gimmick.

@leonro 10 ай бұрын

The mini discs were a gimmick, so were the handle, the console's shape, and the controller layout. Wireless controllers too. It was a much more gimmicky console than PS2, which only had analogue buttons as a gimmick, and Xbox, which emphasised its online functionality. Nintendo was far more open to throwing out ideas to see what stuck. Not to mention the N64, with its controller, the cartridge loader + disc add-on strategy, and 4 player local multiplayer. The NES had a ton of accessories (some included in the box even), and the SNES, perhaps the tamest of the bunch, had shoulder buttons and special chips added to the cartridges to enhance the games (notably superFX for StarFox, Doom, and Yoshi's Island).

@marcosatzinger2470 10 ай бұрын

Now make a video about the third party support on N64

@TheJetairliner1994 10 ай бұрын

Did i see scott having a Resident Evil 1 Ps1 longbox 😮!?

@poppip10 10 ай бұрын

can’t wait for second party games on gamecube

@jordanmann2962 10 ай бұрын

Why does everyone trash Sonic Riders 😭 didn’t take that long to learn

@mewtrandell 10 ай бұрын

I was around that time and Scott is the first one I’ve heard saying Gamecube discs were a problem for third parties or anything. Sure, it was true that the size was way smaller than a DVD but I don’t really remember it being an issue, like that was not the reason the console had poor third party support.

@bat32391 7 ай бұрын

When he says smaller I think he means the disc space, not the physical size.

@silentzorah 10 ай бұрын

Soul Calibur 2 wasn't only the best third party game on Gamecube, but it was also the best game of the series and the best *version* of that game.

@codezero7981 10 ай бұрын

Timesplitters: Future Perfect for the Cube was also the best version

@wheskeraustere5642 10 ай бұрын

I was never able to get into Billy Hatcher. Was older and it just felt slow paced. Great color and look to it but really slow and tedious. Maybe I didn't play it enough. Never had Sonic Gems bet that was decent. And I had the dream cast so I didn't see a need to re-get adventure. I always hear people say how great Billy Hatcher was and wonder if they just didn't have a lot of games to play or a friend with the GTA stuff from that era. When you're getting PS and Xbox access does it change how certain GameCube games feel. But I also didn't really love Mario Sunshine replayed in the 3D collection and it was OK nothing crazy but playing right after 64 it definitely felt like a mild evolution forward.

@John-Doe-Lorem-Ipsum 2 ай бұрын

You forget about the prince of Persia series

@wheskeraustere5642 10 ай бұрын

RE zero was great... early on there's a guy in a white coat surrounded by leeches that I recall being a mostly forgotten character in the saga. Of course, I never tried to speed run any of those games which unlocked a lot of cool things things.

@angrymikko 10 ай бұрын

Viewtiful joe 2 exists?!

@TheIllustriouBlueJay 10 ай бұрын

Considering that Soul Calibur 3 had a memory card glitch, its a good thing Nintendo didn't get it.

@zenmarleymello7708 10 ай бұрын

They exist!

@startervisions 10 ай бұрын

make one about the N64

@codezero7981 10 ай бұрын

third party GameCube games >>> third party Wii U games

@guyincognito7518 9 ай бұрын

I’ve got mgs1 and twin snakes. Totally recommend playing both, the original is unlike anything else and the twin snakes is how I always wanted the first one to look and play although it loses some of the classic charm

@234trhbgfdert 9 ай бұрын

Capcom and Sega supported Game Cube, takes a big hit in their banks. Sega has a bad time, without DC and without sales

@cincymutt 9 ай бұрын

I think of GameCube having the best third party game library, compared to any Nintendo console since. Add in the fact that Nintendo has an exceptional first-party library on just about all their consoles, and that makes it maybe my favorite console from the era.

@aznsensation44 10 ай бұрын

Tales of Symphonia has this FF7-esque halo around it because it's the first Tales game many people played (much like FF7 for FF games) so many people view it with nostalgia. But it objectively isn't one of the best Tales games. In fact it's hard to say it's even a top 5 Tales game. Abyss, Berseria, Arise, Vesperia and maybe Destiny II or Graces f are all considered better Tales games.

@AltimaNEO 10 ай бұрын

Were the smaller discs really an issue though? I feel like a lot of PS2 games, even though they were on DVD, didnt really utilize the entire disc. And when they did, it was mostly fluffed up with DVD quality video. I think a lot more games could have easily been ported to the Game Cube without any cuts to the game itself, it just would have taken effort that the publishers likely didnt want to spend money on, given the limited returns on Game Cube releases.

@felonyx5123 10 ай бұрын

Standard PS2 DVDs were over three times the size of a GameCube disk. If they used even a third of the disk it was too big for GameCube. And any game that used dual layer disks definitely wouldn't fit, we know they utilized at least more than the standard DVD size or they wouldn't have bothered putting it on the more expensive disk.

@key099able 10 ай бұрын

All of the most classic games where minimum 2GB and still would be too big for those pathetic discs and producing more discs weren’t justifiable due to the small install base due to no major third party games, do you see the problem?

@codezero7981 10 ай бұрын

No, they weren't; third party devs were too lazy to optimize their games on the mini DVDs, larger and bigger games such as GTA San Andreas could've totally fit in two mini DVDs.

@key099able 10 ай бұрын

@@codezero7981 Implying the publishers weren't always focusing on margins and producing 2 discs where not worth it for the small install base of Gamecube.

@codezero7981 10 ай бұрын

@@key099able well you're kinda right I guess.. shame third party developers didn't follow Nintendo or Factor 5 compression skills cuz they were amazing on that

@HiThere-ig5iz 10 ай бұрын

You have Klonoa 2!? I need that game back in my life so bad

@spacebees86 10 ай бұрын

They made other games for my Smash Bros machine?

@Spacething7474 10 ай бұрын

They made smash bros for my Other Games machine?

@noble_wine 10 ай бұрын

I overlooked the gamecube and feel pretty bad. I just wish the library of games wasnt so bad. I mainly played Super Smash Brothers but PSO was also pretty good but I probably play offline.

@yungdahl9620 10 ай бұрын

Pac man always consumed fruit/dot. So dude always had organs in a way. When you think about it, every cute character that consumes food or water has organs LOL, like a waddle dee. Mfs out here with cephalization n shit💯💯💯

@crashtefano 10 ай бұрын

Removing the plural from "Possibilities" leaves you with "Possibilitie"? That's some interesting grammar.

@leoecuador89 10 ай бұрын

This is Scott trying to save the planet by recycling old content

@mattwolf7698 10 ай бұрын

I like how the skits are trimmed out

@paulakroy2635 4 ай бұрын

Scott on his way to not discuss suda51

@ultramarine40k65 9 ай бұрын

3:42 why tf did you shout ?

@jellyface401 10 ай бұрын

Pacman Do you bleed?

@PsychicWars 10 ай бұрын

Are you seriously surprised that the Gamecube didn't get Final Fantasy X and Devil May Cry? That's like being surprised the PlayStation didn't get Mario 64.

@themariomaster5207 10 ай бұрын

Bruh

@juanperezmich 10 ай бұрын

You left out Baten Kaitos..........

@AltimaNEO 10 ай бұрын

I remember buying that Battle Network game thinking I was in for a good time. I was disappointed by how short and devoid of content it was...

@startervisions 10 ай бұрын

what game was that? 0:40

@Gruntvc 10 ай бұрын

Looks like a Tom And Jerry game.

@startervisions 10 ай бұрын

@@Gruntvc yup

@Nerdtendo6366 10 ай бұрын

Holy sh*t, I hate stuff that exists!

@amalakin4444 10 ай бұрын

Need to buy some more cube games tbh getting kinda stale

@JosephShemelewski 10 ай бұрын

How did twilight princess fit but not like gta3?

@kochampokoj870 9 ай бұрын

There's no excuse why there is no gta on gamecube as the proprietary dvds could easily fit the large cities of the true crime series.there also no excuse why need for speed underground 2 is so poorly optimized.

@wheskeraustere5642 10 ай бұрын

The GameCube had advance compression technology so their system could hold the same data as PS or dreamcast games on a disc a fraction of the size... dumbest gimmick ever. PS2 and Xbox came out a year or 2 later and we have the same storage ability and now your GameCube disc is to small to hold a full size game for the era. On one hand it made 3rd party games a pain to port on the other it kept games from being insanely long to beat. Scott is to young to know about the whole boasting about the tiny disc size. Clearly gets the issue it caused when competitors upgraded to newer better systems though lol

@TheSubZero187 10 ай бұрын

Nintendo always has something that makes it in most cases the worse third party machine. GameCube had smaller disc size, Wii was just motion control, WiiU just didn’t get support, Switch is underpowered and most multi platform games run worse on it. You can argue with me all you want about the Switch being portable and still running great games but when they have a game running like The Witcher 3, it’s at the lowest possible settings and makes it not even worth playing on there. I wonder if the next console would be as strong as a base PS4 so Nintendo can say they run games in 1080p HDR maybe 30fps. Also I have the Switch and am playing through Super Mario RPG, the menus even stutter. I don’t understand how they can’t fix that.