Testing the Kent Trouvaille Walmart Bike for durability

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In a previous video • This Walmart MTB looks... we bought and inspected the Kent Trouvaille Walmart bike because it looked really impressive for the price. To nobody's surprise it was assembled terribly, but after we did a tuneup it ran pretty nice! Today we take the Kent Trouvaille on a real mountain bike trail to see what it's made of.
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@shawngifford
@shawngifford Жыл бұрын
Seth’s expertise on hitting trees is truly legendary.
@dominicternullo1863
@dominicternullo1863 Жыл бұрын
Ong
@istambiker786
@istambiker786 Жыл бұрын
😂
@Tomxbxp
@Tomxbxp Жыл бұрын
Good chance to bend forks though lol
@XxjoeyxXify
@XxjoeyxXify Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 now BOBO is gonna come in here and say "Hold my beer I got this"
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
I guess wrecking your forks, headset, and front tire is preferable wrecking yourself.
@tingtang5589
@tingtang5589 Жыл бұрын
This should be a whole series. Each episode after a ride Seth inevitably breaks something with his raw power and upgrades a part until the bike reaches a good entry level bike status. Each episode he updates the total cost of the bike and compares it with a Trek Marlin
@jasonbaker2126
@jasonbaker2126 Жыл бұрын
That would actually be a fun series of videos. I would watch that.
@nickcowley8757
@nickcowley8757 Жыл бұрын
+1 on this video idea
@nbettsy9966
@nbettsy9966 Жыл бұрын
I’m commenting so he sees
@thehendek7837
@thehendek7837 Жыл бұрын
Even if he buys completely overpriced bike parts, it would be a better deal than a Trek marlin
@adventure_hannah3841
@adventure_hannah3841 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cool video series idea!
@adamsiekierski3133
@adamsiekierski3133 Жыл бұрын
I am a fan of how he still proceeded to totally send the trail while already having bent bars.
@TheHawkinsGrove
@TheHawkinsGrove Жыл бұрын
I chuckled, but I wasn't surprised XD. We've seen this guy take a descent on a mangled up wal-goose he found that someone had just chucked in the bushes. When it comes to sketch, put nothing past Seth. 😂
@Chris-hd4if
@Chris-hd4if Жыл бұрын
Well what else is he supposed to do. 😅 way to finish out the ride no matter what Seth!
@carlclark8093
@carlclark8093 Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@Jump-n-smash
@Jump-n-smash Жыл бұрын
Better than walking the bike
@davidc6032
@davidc6032 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate Seth finishing his sentences in mid-crash. "That was like a 2 foot...", impact, flies through the air, "...drop"...hits ground.
@dailsonbertassolijr.879
@dailsonbertassolijr.879 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@tvthecat
@tvthecat Жыл бұрын
He's a man of commitment.
@dialledalloyedits3469
@dialledalloyedits3469 Жыл бұрын
hello, looking for a helmet preferably under 250 (im 14 and broke asf) thank u all
@tvthecat
@tvthecat Жыл бұрын
@@dialledalloyedits3469 Bro, how are you gonna say that you're broke and also say you can spend up to $250 on a helmet.
@dialledalloyedits3469
@dialledalloyedits3469 Жыл бұрын
@@tvthecat well bc most helmets that ive used in the past have been around there and they seem to be decently cheap
@thecrisscross6072
@thecrisscross6072 Жыл бұрын
“I guess it’s safe to descend on eh?” Crashes in 2 seconds
@atalica6658
@atalica6658 Жыл бұрын
He sounds like a Canadian
@tonyayala5624
@tonyayala5624 Жыл бұрын
What
@Oddman1980
@Oddman1980 Жыл бұрын
He was doing just fine before the tree ran out in front of him.
@scratch8212
@scratch8212 Жыл бұрын
Sent her a little too hard
@JESSEPINKMAN74
@JESSEPINKMAN74 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@chabs6748
@chabs6748 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a cheap build on this bike but make it reliable as possible
@Anthonybrother
@Anthonybrother Жыл бұрын
Too vague.
@Wheelsanstuff
@Wheelsanstuff Жыл бұрын
Then it’s no longer cheap, might as well buy a decent trek or similar
@mr_sadicoplays
@mr_sadicoplays Жыл бұрын
@@Wheelsanstuff it depends because I got one for 50 bucks and just wanted to see what upgrades you can do to it , so for me is worth it
@Deathwatch31
@Deathwatch31 Жыл бұрын
@@mr_sadicoplays how?
@timbonator1
@timbonator1 Жыл бұрын
@@mr_sadicoplays how did you get it for 50$?
@WeekendPirate
@WeekendPirate Жыл бұрын
Quickest test run I’ve ever seen 😂 got right to the airbag deployment test
@Thefreakyfreek
@Thefreakyfreek Жыл бұрын
It fail that
@jplee123
@jplee123 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a starter MTB that I wouldn't cry about if stolen. This Kent Trouvaille has been perfect for me. I'm following your experiences with the bike and your budget (but effective) upgrades. Thanks for your videos and for doing this affordable MTB project! FYI - I took apart my bottom bracket because I knew I had to grease it (thanks to you). But it appears Kent has switched to a sealed, albeit generic, bearing assembly which is nice. XR-A01 @ 73 x 124.5. Bearings are 6002RS
@Hugs-hearts-and-horses
@Hugs-hearts-and-horses Жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, glad your sort of digging the CST Tires, they're a hidden gem of a budget tire in my opinion.
@seancastello8593
@seancastello8593 Жыл бұрын
They are the parent company of maxxis! They are good tires and they hold up well.
@agunlogisteam
@agunlogisteam Жыл бұрын
Well its actually maxxis in disguise
@istambiker786
@istambiker786 Жыл бұрын
CST's are really good. I used to ride CST Rockhawk and they're really good on trails and steep downhills.
@seancastello8593
@seancastello8593 Жыл бұрын
@@istambiker786 I just put a set of rock hawks on my hard tail. The work great so far.
@nicgur_6981
@nicgur_6981 Жыл бұрын
Walmart version
@e36z32
@e36z32 Жыл бұрын
The confidence of one of the riders at the top: “I’ll come down with a stretcher behind you”. 🤣🤣
@nolanwood4869
@nolanwood4869 Жыл бұрын
That’s one of my buddies Jonathan!
@michaelmoore4369
@michaelmoore4369 Жыл бұрын
Jono always has my back
@BigTruckBigRV
@BigTruckBigRV Жыл бұрын
For people starting the journey of MTBing, getting something cheap but upgraded is a huge perk. Many can't justify spending more than a few hundred dollars on something they may never use but a few times. A total build up to super high end components on this bike might be a really cool series. Taking a $350 bike and following a build up to a $3,500 bike (aluminum frame) would be a cool trip to follow!
@jayadams2771
@jayadams2771 Жыл бұрын
It's fine for someone to buy a cheap bike and see if they like mtn biking, but such a huge waste of money to start updrading it to something good. These cheap bikes don't have any of the standards nice frames have. ie: thru axle. So they buy nice wheels, buy a new frame and their nice wheels dont fit...
@daddyshrek2295
@daddyshrek2295 Жыл бұрын
80% of bearing failures are due to lack of grease so once again, the Trouvaille was doomed by improper assembly The bike has potential just don't take it to the trail right out of the box, give it once-over, grease what needs to be greased, tighten the bolts that need to be tightened
@EnzoBergstrom
@EnzoBergstrom Жыл бұрын
I've have seen both Orbea and Ghost missing grease on some places where it should be from factory too. It seems like Walmart is not the only ones with assembly problems.
@BermPeakExpress
@BermPeakExpress Жыл бұрын
These were cartridge bearings which actually did have grease in them. I honestly don't know why they failed. In any case, you can't expect someone assembling BBQ's to grease a BB that's already installed. Like you said, it's up to the buyer to really check it over before taking it out. You're saving money in exchange for consistency and assembly.
@TrueNomadSkies
@TrueNomadSkies Жыл бұрын
Probably half the bottom brackets, wheel bearings, headsets, pedals, etc that I take apart have basically no grease in them. The other half look to have been properly serviced at the time of assembly, but 15 years down the road just calls for a redo. It's scary to think that for years, I just rode bikes as they came.
@zenofthemoment
@zenofthemoment Жыл бұрын
@@BermPeakExpress alternatively, a buyer should take it to their LBS and ask for a 'safety check', or if they're willing to spend a few more bucks, a new bike tune. Might not have caught the BB, but it'll catch those really basic issues that the BBQ assemblers would've missed.
@su35supaflanka
@su35supaflanka Жыл бұрын
@@BermPeakExpress Theyre using the cheapest bearings possible to save on costs
@backalleyent8755
@backalleyent8755 Жыл бұрын
As an individual who broke their leg on a Walmart mountain bike because the weld for The Handlebar clamp broke I will only get bikes from proper bike shops for now on
@TraviNomotion
@TraviNomotion Жыл бұрын
Damn that sucks
@frizzlefry1921
@frizzlefry1921 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thankfully didn't break anything but the headset off of a Walmart bike too. Handle bars fork everything gone upon landing. Miss my predator nighthawk 87'? only replaced brake cables and tubes.
@skyrunr
@skyrunr Жыл бұрын
Two family members have similar stories, one was my daughter. My cousin fractured his ankle. Both were wheel related.
@thesinofthetin
@thesinofthetin Жыл бұрын
The Microshift Advent that's on there is the lower end model without a clutch. If they spend the $15 extra to put the clutched one on there, it would be MUCH better.
@bobbyhempel1513
@bobbyhempel1513 Жыл бұрын
Not really.
@EchoToaster_
@EchoToaster_ Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyhempel1513 yes really.
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
And if they put in a better bottom bracket, if the put on tubeless ready rims, if they put on better brakes, if they put on stronger handle bars.... Keeps going and going......
@reboundrides8132
@reboundrides8132 Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve exactly
@samstrickland6909
@samstrickland6909 Жыл бұрын
They could probably just add a cheap chain guide and it would be good to go
@elwoodkotil2538
@elwoodkotil2538 Жыл бұрын
Both MTB's I have bought (Mongoose Ledge X2 and KT) I ride them stock and if I like them I do almost total upgrade re-builds and I have trouble free performance when I hit the trail as hard as my 75 year old body will allow! Only thing original on both MTB's is frame, wheels and tubes, and the 180mm brake rotor which gets moved to the rear! On the KT I also kept the tires. I learned a bunch about MTB's and had fun doing it thanks to people like you, Kev, CS, WT etc..... and I also have a bunch of money left for other stuff! If I had bought bike shop stuff I would be broke and I wouldn't of learned much. The things I am not capable of doing I was assisted by Simpson's in Whitehouse, Tx. and by Jeff at Athens Bicycle Shop! Keep up the great video's!
@Desert_chunk_mtbr
@Desert_chunk_mtbr Жыл бұрын
I like that people can a least get into the sport with less expensive big box bikes. It’s how I got into it. I started with a Nishiki Colorado Comp from Dick’s sporting goods. Upgrade a few components and I was hooked and upgraded into some better trail bikes
@feloberto
@feloberto Жыл бұрын
I remember that bike being an absurd price/quality deal, I think I saw it on a video by KevCentral quite a while ago and it was a beast for the money.
@rickflippin1
@rickflippin1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work and excellent content I’m 60 just got into mountain biking I’ve learned so much from your channel thanks again
@onesadtech
@onesadtech Жыл бұрын
That's so awesome! Never too old to get on a bike. 🤘
@Andrew_Carr
@Andrew_Carr Жыл бұрын
I love your videos Seth, you have gotten me into mountain biking and now I've been riding for a little over a year, work on bikes because of your vid's, thanks!
@nigol44
@nigol44 Жыл бұрын
I have been riding for the same amount of time, for the exact same reason. 😂😂 Hows it going? What bike do you have?
@Andrew_Carr
@Andrew_Carr Жыл бұрын
@@nigol44 I've been riding a yt jeffsy, I bought it off Facebook for like 1500
@TUkrLad
@TUkrLad Жыл бұрын
Dude same, Seth got me into mountain biking too. My 2015 Trek Fuex Ex 7 is still going strong
@topspot4834
@topspot4834 Жыл бұрын
Same, but I first saw Seth 5 years ago ... I used to be one of those "you can buy a car for that much" kinda guys, but now I go to the bike park about 20-25x a year. I was in a hospital bed and saw a Nate Hill vid from Whistler, then binged Seth. Didn't even know downhill MTB or bike parks were even a thing, and now it's pretty much all I do and think about.
@Dewfilms
@Dewfilms Жыл бұрын
Both of your Walmart bike vids are excellent...please continue 👍 I'd love to see you put other cheap bikes to the test (if possible) To ponder if there's actually other decent economical starter bikes out there that has more bang for your buck than originally intended...Not just for struggling college students & adults but also for teens (parents that are unsure what cheap decent starter bike to get sort of thing)
@shelterrockisland
@shelterrockisland Жыл бұрын
Dude - your videos are awesome - so educational with real world testing - can't say enough good things about what you're doing!
@evosportychop8332
@evosportychop8332 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how Seth is looking at the bike for what it is, entry level. Instead of dunking on its short comings, though there may be plenty, he is still up to riding it again after a couple unexpected repairs.
@PSUmandy02
@PSUmandy02 Жыл бұрын
Good to have you back posting on a regular schedule.
@mindlesspear8840
@mindlesspear8840 Жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, it’s been a while since I’ve watched your videos as I haven’t had much time recently with work and all that, I just want to say how comforting your videos actually are to someone as well as being sick high quality, love the work and I’m glad to be able to watch you again
@hughwolfe1176
@hughwolfe1176 Жыл бұрын
Seth thank you for sharing your knowledge of bike parts, construction and repairs (upgrades in this case) for those of us less experienced folks.
@taylor8109
@taylor8109 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the lever reach was a bit far for your hands haha. Glad you’re ok. That descent was a few stubbies short of a six-pack. That Aussie guy on top of hickory was mighty handsome!
@sanggaardvideo8116
@sanggaardvideo8116 Жыл бұрын
This test got me thinking... expensive frame with inexpensive parts vs cheap frame with expensive parts? Might be most interesting with full suspension.
@sonymicronin
@sonymicronin Жыл бұрын
Expensive frame, cheap parts, upgrade parts down the line.
@cameronhumphries2377
@cameronhumphries2377 Жыл бұрын
@@sonymicronin yes however the opposite would definitely perform better
@87wxdiaz
@87wxdiaz Жыл бұрын
seems get an expensive frame use cheap parts till you have enought to replace each one once it breaks...
@destinhook3826
@destinhook3826 Жыл бұрын
Mongoose Ledge X1 is the perfect bike for your idea. Check out kevcentral, he went all out upgrading that frame with quality parts. It already has modern geo and ball bearing pivots.
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell Жыл бұрын
Depending on how you define "cheap", you can get some pretty nice, cheap frames new and build them up how you want.
@michaeldavid7959
@michaeldavid7959 Жыл бұрын
It’s so cool that you’re in WNC. Lived in Asheville for 20 years and rode about every trail there is out there. Unfortunately I moved to Fla and have been here for about 15 years. Just getting back into trail riding (altho it’s flat as a pancake here). Thanks for your videos. You’ve taught an old biker some new (to me) tricks!
@stokedstephi
@stokedstephi Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching your videos! My husband and I also used to ride BMX from about 2003 until 2013, so we often feel like we can relate to you :) Nowadays we prefer the comfort of bikes with suspension!
@Parker-di7ef
@Parker-di7ef Жыл бұрын
I want to see more on this bike! Let’s see a few budget upgrades!
@core2zero
@core2zero Жыл бұрын
i get the "testing at the minimum safe margin" to make people see what is like, but a few more videos in would be a pretty good topic for a "upgrade platform", seeing if it can be taken to a decent level under the price tag of a brand name one
@Ripzzle7
@Ripzzle7 Жыл бұрын
It’s a good day when Seth uploads
@dez1353
@dez1353 Жыл бұрын
It’s a bad day when Seth uploads
@MiniGolfClips
@MiniGolfClips Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@altonoutdoors4422
@altonoutdoors4422 Жыл бұрын
@@dez1353 bro what
@thomaswinn3559
@thomaswinn3559 Жыл бұрын
Any bike is a good bike. My bike just got stolen a week ago. You don't know what you have until its gone. Appreciate your bikes guys
@project.neutron
@project.neutron Жыл бұрын
I recently had an issue with my bottom bracket too, but on a specialized. I was getting too big for my old bike through COVID so had to get a new one. Bought a specialized and the bottom bracket had a complete defect to it and it was cranking and loose like that, but couldn’t be tightened. Had to get rid of the frame but warranty covered it and we got a free new one. We just sold that bike used with a new upgraded frame. And I race NICA so this can’t be happening. So we bought a new X-Caliber and it works great! Had I not figured out what was going on and came to this video you would have fixed my problem so thanks so much for confirming this!
@elipearce7317
@elipearce7317 Жыл бұрын
Man I have seen Wolftick videos on KZbin have some hard crashes and really push these Walmart bikes but I haven't seen a handle bar fail like that when he was riding. He must have really been flying when he hit that tree. lol. Great video.
@EBikeBuilder_
@EBikeBuilder_ Жыл бұрын
Tick has bent stock handlebars for sure. He broke some lowend carbon ones recently.
@bridgermoody
@bridgermoody Жыл бұрын
You know it’s a good video when Seth goes cinematic mode😂
@tylamb7684
@tylamb7684 Жыл бұрын
I can remember when the first Walmart bike video came out like it was yesterday! How much the channel has changed is crazy. Mr. Seth, I don’t even MTB. I’m a avid hunter and fisherman, but I love your videos and have been a fan since Florida! I’ve gotta meet you some day!
@doyboy7377
@doyboy7377 Жыл бұрын
Got the bike for myself 3 weeks ago as a secondary/backup. First thing I noticed was how heavy it was compared to my cannondale but so far it's taken everything I can throw at it
@konanoobiemaster
@konanoobiemaster Жыл бұрын
4:37 .25x speed - handlebar bent because it hit the ground. Thanks for coming to my SethTalk today.
@bobbyhempel1513
@bobbyhempel1513 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@Anthonybrother
@Anthonybrother Жыл бұрын
Hi Seth, i would love to see you do a little bit of street riding again like in the Seth's Bike Hacks era. That being said, i watch all your videos anyway, and i love what you did building a bikepark on your property.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Жыл бұрын
Same! I miss those old videos. "You'll look like a f@cking BOSS!"
@DancerOfClouds
@DancerOfClouds Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this series; as it is showing how a reasonable budget-friendly bike can be retrofitted with half-decent gear and be a good entry-level bike.
@danielmoreau4476
@danielmoreau4476 Жыл бұрын
Definitely an entertaining series. Keep going! Really like the technical break down of what you see.
@danielmoreau4476
@danielmoreau4476 Жыл бұрын
@Berm Peak Express I think someone is scamming people with a fake account. See the other reply
@skylermormon1886
@skylermormon1886 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see some budget upgrades on this thing and then a comparison of upgraded price vs performance against a big name bike
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
Anyone who works on their own bikes should just find something used. I tried one, and returned it for a used Cannondale Trail. Did the upgrades on that instead.
@Bengy22
@Bengy22 Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve Good luck finding anything. I looked used for a year and never found anything close to the upgradability and parts (like a cassette and 1 by and tapered headtube) while being under this price. 99% of bikes used in the $400 range are old bikes that need a lot of work and are spec'd with outdated parts and compatibility. Everyone always says buy used without checking the market first, for a lot of us there's nothing out there
@reboundrides8132
@reboundrides8132 Жыл бұрын
@@Bengy22 if you want a tapered head tube and a good single cassette style bike, you will most likely have to pay more than $400 even if it’s used. But you usually get what you pay for, and things like what happened in this video shouldn’t happen.
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
@@Bengy22 I got TWO used bikes in the last 60 days, also tried 3 big box bikes (all returned). FYI a 2020 Trek Checkpoint ALR 5 for $1200 (almost new) and a 2020 Cannondale Trail for $240. Tapered headsets are NOT a big deal, most 44mm Straight can take the bottom external adaptor cups. if your running QR (as these are budget bikes) you may want to go straight anyways. I got a new RS Recon for $200 because it was a straight tube QR. He had a 21 Marlin 6 for $600 that was in almost prefect condition. BUT you also have assholes who are asking for new prices as well.
@Bengy22
@Bengy22 Жыл бұрын
@@reboundrides8132 But the things that happened in this video was A. Seth crashed and the bars bent, not really the bikes fault. And B the bottom bracket failed. Yes that's the bikes fault but the manufacture should send a replacement free of cost or what I would do is get a whole new sealed bearing BB and crankset for $50. $450 for a bike like this still a great deal, not to mention the BB failing isn't a common thing on this bike. I've seen / read about many people owning them and never heard about it before
@markbryanabanid4805
@markbryanabanid4805 Жыл бұрын
Dont go getting another injury idol seth, i really like your contents while standing, not riding a knee scooter, ride safe♥️
@matthewdavey5728
@matthewdavey5728 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching you for a long time, since the Seth bike hack days at your house in Florida, and this is the best cinematography I've seen in your videos!! Keep it up!
@ElmoUnk1953
@ElmoUnk1953 Жыл бұрын
Excellent part two, thanks for the information.
@jenneyjackson3877
@jenneyjackson3877 Жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, im a big fan of the channel and i was wondering if in the next video you could walk through all the trails, tell us the names, and show what features are on them. Thanks for great content.
@Anthonybrother
@Anthonybrother Жыл бұрын
He described the different sections in separate videos. If you watch all his videos, you'll get all those infos.
@jenneyjackson3877
@jenneyjackson3877 Жыл бұрын
@@Anthonybrother yea, but i dont have enough attention to watch alot of videos.
@cursedvoid
@cursedvoid Жыл бұрын
As someone who owns a Marlin the only problem I've had with it is that the shifter wire routing is very easy to pop out of route and shred the casing. (I have added zip ties after because screw ruining another shifter line.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
On my Marlin 8, some of the cabling is held in place with reusable clips that can pop loose in the right situation (such as crashing; ask me how I know). Cable ties are much more secure.
@besomewheredosomething
@besomewheredosomething Жыл бұрын
@@Durwood71 Same here on a DiamondBack Atroz 3. I've lost clips and had to replace with black zip ties.
@cursedvoid
@cursedvoid Жыл бұрын
@@Durwood71 yeah I think the clips fell off at about month 2 of owning mine and only took 1 ride without noticing to fully shred the cable to smitherines... Now I check my cables before every ride.
@onesadtech
@onesadtech Жыл бұрын
The commentary continuing through the crash was gold! 😂 This is such a great series idea Seth, can't wait to see more.
@theboombapkingdom8628
@theboombapkingdom8628 Жыл бұрын
I literally just saw this bike yesterday in Walmart. Thanks for taking the time to review it. Guess I'll be leaving it right where I found it!
@I_Am_Bone
@I_Am_Bone Жыл бұрын
You mentioned the Trek Marlin. What are your honest thoughts on the Marlin 6 or 7 for a 51 year old getting back into riding, and looking to ride combination street and Single track green and maybe blues? Thanks for all the great content!
@Dy1pickel
@Dy1pickel Жыл бұрын
It will work ok, probably pushing it on blues though as suspension bails you out of poor line choices. If you have any joint pain save up more for a full suspension.
@Oddman1980
@Oddman1980 Жыл бұрын
So it seems o me you could buy one of these, put a decent bottom bracket in it, and your favorite handlebars, and you'd be OK? Or more likely, you'd find the next failure point... It would be fun to see what happens next time! About brake effort - I have an ancient 250cc dirt bike with cable operated drum brakes on the front and rear wheels. When I go from riding that, to riding my bicycle, I have to retrain myself every time.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
After my beloved 30 year old Trek 6000 was stolen, I bought a Marlin 8. I wasn't prepared for the dramatic difference between cable actuated rim brakes and hydraulic disc brakes, and on my first ride, I gave the brake levers a habitual firm squeeze. Instead of a controlled reduction in speed, the front tire immediately locked up, and over the handlebars I went.
@Oddman1980
@Oddman1980 Жыл бұрын
@@Durwood71 I've never ridden hydraulic brakes, not yet. It sounds like I'd end up hurting myself. 🤣
@kingsports6550
@kingsports6550 Жыл бұрын
I love the videos you inspired me to start mountain biking
@jakowz7619
@jakowz7619 Жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see a video like this. As much as seth’s content has evolved and improved, I do miss these trail rides with Seth. Very classic
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@beta175
@beta175 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually really impressed that the wheels are still true.
@youtubeviewer9523
@youtubeviewer9523 Жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, not sure if you know, but Walmart has a brand called 'Viathlon' and they make a pretty good mountain bike. Yes, you read that right, they make only one mountain bike (an xc hardtail). It is also pretty expensive and one of the options for components is SRAM AXS. I wonder how many of those they really sell, and who buys them...
@BermPeakExpress
@BermPeakExpress Жыл бұрын
yep, my friend reviewed that for Pinkbike, but you can only order it online
@youtubeviewer9523
@youtubeviewer9523 Жыл бұрын
@@BermPeakExpress Yeah I know that it is only online order, but I guess that makes sense though because they would sit at Walmart stores for years haha
@danielsepulveda6737
@danielsepulveda6737 Жыл бұрын
Ik someone who has one and races xc with it. Says it is great.
@jostafew
@jostafew Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Ep3. Keep it coming, let's find out what else we need to swap to get to a decent baseline where it does what is reasonably expected without something stupid breaking prematurely (looking at you BB)
@jnjmtb
@jnjmtb Жыл бұрын
I personally ride the Trek Marlin 6 2022 and I take it on blue trails and I have done parts of black diamonds. The bike has had a bent seat post after one of my worst falls yet, but the seat post was the only thing that got damaged, except for some paint chipping on the brake levers. The bike is sturdy, dependable and is more than worth it for the price!
@bassman87
@bassman87 Жыл бұрын
So the real question is how did the frame fair? All the components can be upgraded in time, but the frame is the bike.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Buy the bike for the frame and then upgrade components as needed. Would that save you any money over springing for something like a decent Trek?
@lukem7203
@lukem7203 Жыл бұрын
@@Durwood71 I have a feeling even buying a decent Trek components still get upgraded.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
@@lukem7203 Perhaps, but not because Treks have low quality components.
@plethoral1854
@plethoral1854 Жыл бұрын
Petition to make this bike as good as possible with high end specs
@Mikemalone7873
@Mikemalone7873 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Way to take one for the team, but I was really worried watching you bomb down the trail with bent bars. Glad you made it.
@christopherortiz8713
@christopherortiz8713 Жыл бұрын
Great video Seth.. New to biking.. great advice on what to look for.
@cluelessbob7372
@cluelessbob7372 Жыл бұрын
I've had a axum dp for 1 year now and have taken it to berm park and the only problem is how flexible the fork is but have not had any major issues
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO Жыл бұрын
That sounds like big trouble ngl. Would advice either fixing it or swapping it, of it does go wrong it won't be pretty
@fr3etrial314
@fr3etrial314 Жыл бұрын
You need to swap the fork
@SlowDelSol
@SlowDelSol Жыл бұрын
You’re overdue for a nice fork man. I had a RockShox Judy Silver TK 120mm on my Mongoose Ardor and it was a real nice XC fork.
@notice_fpv
@notice_fpv Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one thinking if this can handle Seth's backyard trails... It's probably gtg almost anywhere?
@protectme4278
@protectme4278 Жыл бұрын
Not for long :D Once or twice? Sure! Got for it. But more than that? You'll be making friends at the bike shop ;P
@tibor29
@tibor29 Жыл бұрын
I think this video actually proved otherwise?
@notice_fpv
@notice_fpv Жыл бұрын
@@tibor29 need to remind myself to watch the entire video before commenting midstream!
@henri-basilhearne3480
@henri-basilhearne3480 Жыл бұрын
Loving Seth on a budget bike! Relatable experiences great content!
@user-nz2yr1if3g
@user-nz2yr1if3g Жыл бұрын
seths humor is great i like him, keep it up seth love your channel
@The8BitNerd
@The8BitNerd Жыл бұрын
The biggest blow in that crash was the Berm Peak merch.
@MrTemplarViking
@MrTemplarViking Жыл бұрын
As someone who has blown a BB on a trek marlin 7, along with wearing out the bontrager tires it came with and nearly snapping the frame in half, all within 3 months of buying the bike from a real bike shop... I would say they are a bit lower than a proper entry level mountain bike, more of a really good commuter. Still better than this walmart bike though.
@h82fail
@h82fail Жыл бұрын
Allot of talk on here saying just get one and I have to agree. I owned one for a day, luckily the bike store let me use it as credit for a real mountain bike. Its really not an entry level MTB to me, its just a 'legally ok with offroad' version of this Walmart bike which is really for the road/paths. I'd rather have a full rigid then ride those garbage forks in real singletrack. Unless the Marlin is way better then it used to be? Feel like generic brand entry level real fork that rides ok is like $250, half the price of a Marlin so I understand why its too cheap to be good, especially a dealer brand with markup. (Just looked it up, was unaware they made so many Marlin, Marlin 8 for 1330 has entry level air fork).
@C4tNipped
@C4tNipped Жыл бұрын
I have a second hand Kent Roadmaster. I have had no problems with this bike, and consider it one of my favourite bikes. The only work done on it before it fell in my hands was a spoke replacement (3). So, on the original rear wheel, four spokes suddenly gave out. I replaced for another second hand rear and again, I've lost a spoke but, alas, the rest of the bike works wonders and I just did my first time trial on it.
@Larpy1933
@Larpy1933 Жыл бұрын
Videography: definitely 5 stars. It’s superb. Story thread and overall production values: 6 stars (out of five). You da man! Your crew is also dee men! Thanks.
@eddiejrbation5095
@eddiejrbation5095 Жыл бұрын
3:31 sick gravel type handlebar Seth 😂😂😂
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO Жыл бұрын
A feat of modern engineering really
@eddiejrbation5095
@eddiejrbation5095 Жыл бұрын
@@Ferrari255GTO Cold setting an Aluminum Hamdlebar works 😂 (Assuming the material is Aluminum rather than steel)
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO Жыл бұрын
@@eddiejrbation5095 i'd assume it's some of the finest butter available
@saltyman37
@saltyman37 Жыл бұрын
I'd just put some entry level shimano hydraulic disc brakes on it. Would make it much more manageable downhill.
@rahakadesh
@rahakadesh Жыл бұрын
😀😀 Seth, you remind me of this one time with my genesisv2100 we had a smooth downhill ride until the shock gave us that surprise of the year. I cycled back 54km home it was hectic
@TrailFeatures
@TrailFeatures Жыл бұрын
If you think the BB is dry wait until you see the headset. Schwinn Axum share a lot of parts and has a lot of the same issues.
@LL.Johnson
@LL.Johnson Жыл бұрын
I've personally been loving my Trouvaille. I don't mind upgrading parts, so I think it fits my style pretty well.
@singletona082
@singletona082 Жыл бұрын
Seth: That sticker is there for cover yoru ass legaleese. It's ABSOLUTELY on the factory for that bottom bracket. Assemblers don't do crank installs and the like. That is 100% kent's fault. Walmart can't (directly) be blamed (though indirectly they can by demanding all these corner cuts.)
@BermPeakExpress
@BermPeakExpress Жыл бұрын
Absolutely on the factory, or from their supplier
@RVsbladesnthangs
@RVsbladesnthangs Жыл бұрын
I ride the Genesis Overkill by Kent Bikes and I do have 1 great thing to say about their customer service department. Every time I call them with a busted part, my guy Lance is always super nice and gets me my parts really fast. And they know up there that they don't have the best bikes but they do have the best customer service I've seen in a long time! God Bless✝️🙏🏼
@playgroundchooser
@playgroundchooser Жыл бұрын
I started with a 2020 Trek Marlin 5 myself. Made a few upgrades over the two years I rode it. And I rode it hard. I never backed down from a trail due to the bike. I now have a FS and life is indeed way better, but my Marlin was a great entry point.
@chesterthompson6835
@chesterthompson6835 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily blame that bearing failure on the bike. I have been in industry and manufacturing for 25 years, sometimes bearing are bad from the manufacturer. Generally rare but could happen on the most expensive bike out there.
@themostlymikeshow2582
@themostlymikeshow2582 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I think it's safe to say that "Kent true failed" "Nobody rides for Upanbike" Good stuff!
@clarkifyOG
@clarkifyOG Жыл бұрын
First time i've seen a dramatic get-up-from-the-ground scene. Pretty awesome 💯
@crash5522
@crash5522 Жыл бұрын
Loved this content, Id love to see more of this bike.
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@FishForFun.
@FishForFun. Жыл бұрын
My friend bought a Walmart bike “on a budget” then continued to buy fox shocks for it
@rpungello
@rpungello Жыл бұрын
Is your friend Sam Pilgrim?
@FishForFun.
@FishForFun. Жыл бұрын
No sadly
@midship_nc
@midship_nc Жыл бұрын
@@rpungello lol CRACK A MONNY TIME
@protectme4278
@protectme4278 Жыл бұрын
I work in a shop in North Texas. Let me break this down for you, if you're watching this video and thinking it's still worth it for you. I'll tell you, if you're jazzed about biking (I'm betting you are, since you're watching this channel), you need to look past this bike or something like it. I know from experience! :D After buying the bike, you'll want to get it checked over by a professional. That's not free. You can expect to pay $100 right there to get it tuned properly. Ok with that out of the way, that bottom bracket is a basic retainer bearing setup. If you're planning on riding this a lot, maybe even on-road, those bearings will die very quickly. You'll want a sealed cartridge bottom bracket. Now, like Seth said, they're still very cheap! Awesome, right? But that doesn't install itself, does it? You can expect to pay $30-$50 to have a shop do it. So you've paid $350-$400 for the bike, $100 dollars to get it properly set up, and another $45-$65 for a bottom bracket. That's over $550 for a bike that will still creak and groan when you use it for what it's intended for (Regardless of that lawyer sticker on it. We all know it's a mountain bike). And that's before we start talking about the longevity of these parts. You'll be back in the shop or on Amazon buying new parts very soon :( For $735, a Giant Talon would get you many things. For one, you'll be getting it from a proper bike shop, so it'll be ready to rip straight out of the store. You're getting hydraulic brakes which offer better brake control and power. You're getting a narrow/wide chainring to keep the chain on the bike. You're getting a stiffer frame which will respond better to your inputs and let you feel more confident on the trails. I can't say it enough. It's worth the extra $200 to spring for something like that. Even if that takes a full summer for you to earn, it's worth it. Plus, summer is kinda hot anyway :P In short, I'd rather see your bike on the trail, and not it the work stand. An extra $200 gets you there. Could you commute on this thing if it's properly assembled? Hell yeah, you could! Pump those tires up to max, and that'd be rad! But that's about all you should expect.
@korcommander
@korcommander Жыл бұрын
My man literally spent $15 to fix it. Bikes ain't that complicated to work on. If you can change your oil or replace pieces in a gun, then you should be able to make sure bike is assembled correctly.
@Jest_Fishing
@Jest_Fishing Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more. No matter what, a Walmart bike is a Walmart bike. They are all built to a price point. Their selling point is to make you think you are getting a ton for your money. The average Walmart shopper looking at a bike rack does not know the hidden cost you explained. No matter how much you pay for it, you will always get 75 percent of the bike you think you are getting at Walmart. These mountain bikes like this one that are now being sold at Walmart are going to keep the emergency rooms in business. I think Seth has done an excellent job showing how much of an unfinished product they really are.
@compasteedee
@compasteedee Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on everything but the BB. Those were all we had, really until the late 90's (unless you had deeper pockets than me), and they worked great, with the understanding that they took more maintenance than a sealed BB. But they will also last longer than any sealed BB with the proper care. I think this bike could potentially be an okay entrance point if you are starting from zero and also want to learn maintenance and upgrade as you progress. But that is really the optimist in me, probably better to get a proper bike like mentioned or, even better, take a friend who knows bikes and buy used.
@protectme4278
@protectme4278 Жыл бұрын
@@korcommander Oh, absolutely! But there's tools and expertise that new bike owners just won't usually have, and that can quickly get expensive. I should clarify that it is possible to save good money and end up with a good bike, but you have to be comfortable (or lucky) working on your own bike. Otherwise it can rapidly add up and kill the value proposition
@korcommander
@korcommander Жыл бұрын
@@protectme4278 You're assuming new bike owners only bike. Most people have a good amount of tools they need to work on one. Most people have screwdrivers, allen keys, and a socket wrench. If you have a question on how to tune a derailur or bed in brakes, thats what KZbin is for. The thing with Walmart bikes, is for a beginner, like myself, everything I would need to start on the trails is there. The frames come with lifetime warranties, and stuff on them are almost all standardized. The Schwinn axums have internal dropper post routing. Them and the Kents have tapered head tubes. This stuff other bikes may not even have for $100 to $200 more in price. I can take a $400 bike, and as I improve, improve the bike, so by the time I'm actually good, I would have a high quality hard tail. I would also like to say most bike shops in DFW are located in places where the people have more money than sense. These people would rather pay to never have to learn how to deal with a mountain bike. I've worked up there too. I'm from Oak cliff, before the yuppies invaded, I'm not gonna spend $100 for you to look at my bike and grease a few things. We're a bit more self reliant stock down here.
@mikejefferson1284
@mikejefferson1284 Жыл бұрын
Great vid Seth , my new favourite channel
@tydontdy3459
@tydontdy3459 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Saved me a couple hundred bucks, almost sold me after your last video.
@fritzginger15
@fritzginger15 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you should take the blame for the handle bars. In the video play back the bar bends when they hit the ground at the very end of the crash. That’s like no weight behind the bike at that point. The bars should not bend from the bike falling side ways and impacting the dirt. Teenagers and kids will simulate that just hastily putting the bike down after riding.
@Standard_Aussie
@Standard_Aussie Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah those Walmart bikes will never be as good as one from a proper bike shop
@thechad2411
@thechad2411 Жыл бұрын
I have this bike and did a few replacements. Handlebars, pedals and saddle. It's ran great so far and I'm slowly upgrading a little at a time. Guess bottom bracket is next.
@tomb70
@tomb70 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! There is so many tests that mock these bikes for not being as good as a 5k pro bike. I've always wondered how these fair as a entry level trail bike
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@mattspen
@mattspen Жыл бұрын
Love that you included Curtis!
@jeremywhitesell2688
@jeremywhitesell2688 5 ай бұрын
I got a Scott Aspect 950 29er for $650 out the door and noone kept up with me on the trail that the shops people took is all on. Watching these makes me glad im not ever thinking about Walmart or Target for a bike. I did have a period where i had no car and wanted a bike which led me to Dicks Sporting Goods for a Nishiki but i found a Trek 820 at a local pawn shop for $150. Rode that for 5 years before i got the Scott.
@cristandork
@cristandork Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you are ok Seth! You are a true Legend!!!!
@carlosguerrero332
@carlosguerrero332 Жыл бұрын
As always, great content can't wait for the next video
@jty9631
@jty9631 Жыл бұрын
It seems that seeing what those Walmart folks put out there is universally entertaining to watch
@aaaaaaaaaassssssssdf
@aaaaaaaaaassssssssdf Жыл бұрын
kinda glad i splurged and got a marlin 5 last year before the prices went up. thanks for the good content
@JESSEPINKMAN74
@JESSEPINKMAN74 Жыл бұрын
This was sooo good. Great video
@nottobey
@nottobey Жыл бұрын
Super! Would be great to see one more video!
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@derekofsorrows
@derekofsorrows Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always 👌
@phillbozz853
@phillbozz853 Жыл бұрын
Love this series
@jfcbmx
@jfcbmx Жыл бұрын
I love the dramatics after hitting the tree. Hilarious. I looked at one of these bikes at my local WalMart. Not a bad deal for someone who wants to get into the sport!
@jbbergmann82
@jbbergmann82 Жыл бұрын
Your the best dude!!! That music when you got up had me crying 😂
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