This 2021 Honda Trail 125 Turns More Heads Than A Superbike, And Here's Why!

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@roncoles8361
@roncoles8361 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm an retired australia postman we used the ct110 in the day on sidewalks in residential areas to deliver mail on these, carry pouch attached to the front handle bars for letters, side carry bags & fixed box for wet weather gear. I was so impressed with mine when i retired & they where taking them out of service i bought mine for $600 Aust dollars in 1997. Still got it, one of the best things I have ever done. I have a small motorhome it gets attached to the back as backup to go shopping or if i break down. I love it.
@takashihorikoshi8032
@takashihorikoshi8032 Жыл бұрын
Happy to learn that the ct110 worked hard with you. I was one of them who worked at Honda to make ct110 better back in the 90s. I'm also retired and am now happy to see the ct coming back for more fun to more people, especially to the new generations. Safe and happy ride for everyone!
@ifmbm332b
@ifmbm332b 3 жыл бұрын
Now Toyota needs to remake a simple, bare-bones pickup truck like they had in the early 90's and they'll sell a few hundred thousand a year.
@LunringNassar
@LunringNassar 3 жыл бұрын
they are, the hilux without the bed.
@Jangocat
@Jangocat 3 жыл бұрын
No earlier, their trucks peaked in 85. Last solid axel carbureted 4x4 and they were under 10k new.
@Ichibuns
@Ichibuns 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jangocat Considering $10,000 in 1985 is $25,000 with inflation, the current Tacoma isn't too far off starting at $26,000. Pretty incredible considering all the regulations they currently have to deal with. The old one were "bare bones" only when comparing to modern cars. Pretty much ALL vehicles were "bare bones."
@michaelgarner1620
@michaelgarner1620 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned and wheeled a 88 V6 runner, 86 Bronco, 91'Jeep YJ. Last year I wanted a hardtop SUV and I hunted down my Triple locked Toyota 80 series Land Cruiser. Nothing fancy, just a solid SUV body and durable interior sitting in an actual truck frame . A bulletproof large bore 6 cylinder built for torque and durability, an automatic transmission that gives me control over the torque, two honest to God solid axles. The rear is even full floating like a heavier truck would have. The damn thing is always in four-wheel drive. I can select low and high range and I can control the locking differentials from a simple dash switch. This old Toyota gives me enough control to wheel as well as my well built Jeep YJ did. I didn't have to spend weeks in the garage installing locking differentials, a roll cage, and transfer case gears.. This Toyota rolled off the showroom floor without a bunch of silly stickers and any kind of system that uses a computer to control the transmission and brakes. It's actually much easier to drive than any four wheel drive I've ever had and it does anything that the YJ could ever do considering the wheelbase difference. Toyota chose to discontinue the Land Cruiser. The model went out with a bang, it is a great family SUV and sold at a great cost. It was too fancy and expensive for most people who would actually go over landing.. It is my opinion that If they would bring back the simple body on frame design and solid axles with selectable lockers it would compete very well on the marketplace if not excessively overpriced.
@Alien300Blackout
@Alien300Blackout 3 жыл бұрын
There's no money in simplicity it's all about flash,that's why over 90% of 4x4 never see dirt unless driver has been drinking
@pmaly9473
@pmaly9473 3 жыл бұрын
The automatic clutch is automatically disengaged when the shift lever is all the way up or down. As you release the lever during shifts, the clutch automatically engages. There is a finesse you can use in down shifting to avoid rear wheel chirp and or skid by learning how to control the clutch engagement with your foot and even using some throttle blip. Or you could just wait to downshift when you come to complete stop or slow down enough to need to downshift for a slower speed. Great to see Honda bring back the legendary Trail 90 as a new 125.
@aleixbartomeus4135
@aleixbartomeus4135 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the innovas! (my father rides one daily)
@SnickterP
@SnickterP 3 жыл бұрын
Some bikes are harder to downshift from higher gears when youre not moving. Although this one only has 4 so it might not be that difficult.
@KO-pk7df
@KO-pk7df 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's how we controlled the Auto-Clutch back-in-the-day. It is how you release the shifter on up or down shifts. That is how we did wheelies on those things, pull or press the shifter rev it up then release the shifter, Bam your off!
@elcheapotravel5914
@elcheapotravel5914 3 жыл бұрын
@@zephyr139 Agreed, he's downshifting too fast other option is to stop completely and then you can shift into neutral from 4th gear at least in my Honda is possible
@KetansaCreatesArt
@KetansaCreatesArt 3 жыл бұрын
Nice information. Classic designs feels great to ride. But see, this is pure extortion. Because an Indian company called TVS makes similar category, somewhat similar design, and or better performance moped for less than 700$. Check out photographs and specs of TVS XL 100, you will be urged to buy it.
@robdixson196
@robdixson196 3 жыл бұрын
When me and my fiends would ride bikes like this back in the day we would be jealous of the kids with hot two stroke CR's etc. Now i truly appreciate how cool these bullet proof reliable bikes are..
@ajmentis7379
@ajmentis7379 3 жыл бұрын
haha I felt the same way, had a 1969 90. Blew the the gears out trying to ride it like a dirtbike
@robdixson196
@robdixson196 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajmentis7379 Lol yeah, obsessing over that elusive wheelie.
@stephenedwards5038
@stephenedwards5038 3 жыл бұрын
Had lots of bikes of various kinds.. All, All, All of my Honda 4-strokes were always, always, always, bullet-proof..
@johntyson
@johntyson 3 жыл бұрын
One benefit of using this bike to commute around town is that it’s not offensive to anyone. You could probably walk it inside the grocery store and nobody would complain. For whatever reason, there are a lot of people that hate motorcycles. Nobody hates this bike.
@SnickterP
@SnickterP 3 жыл бұрын
It has a sort of that old moped charm. I have an old 1980 Honda PA50 (aka Hobbit) and i can park that up on bike racks or walk it on the sidewalk and no one bats an eye. Doesnt hurt that it actually has working pedals, too!
@AlC92575
@AlC92575 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's the swiss army knife of motorcycles.
@Akibatai00
@Akibatai00 3 жыл бұрын
For young people or just folks who aren't knowledgeable about bikes, the CT125 looks like one of those electric bikes we see so often nowadays.
@johntyson
@johntyson 3 жыл бұрын
@@karmuppet True dat...true dat...
@paulross9287
@paulross9287 3 жыл бұрын
That's because you meet nicer people on a Honda.
@spamviking
@spamviking 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for Australia Post, then as an independent deliverer for the better part of 10 years. I rode a CT110 daily and they're the best little things around. People tend to think they can only go walking pace since they mostly see them riding along footpaths delivering mail but depending on how light the rider is they can reach about 90km/h unmodded. We once had a guy actually get a speeding ticket on one when I was a postman, we got the infraction notice and framed it above the sign in clock.
@1guyin10
@1guyin10 3 жыл бұрын
I had a CT 90 as a teen. It was a handy little bike for running around town. A couple of bucks in gas would take you a long way on that one. It's great to see Honda bring these classic designs back.
@deepsleep7822
@deepsleep7822 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine had a CT 90. It was a great bike. His family owned a huge dairy farm so we had lots of space to ride around in. Fun times back then.
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 3 жыл бұрын
DUDE SO DID I !!!!! it was my 1st bike!
@derekdavila432
@derekdavila432 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a CT90 recently for puttn around in woods
@DanTube2010
@DanTube2010 3 жыл бұрын
They've been making them in one form or another continuously since 1966, but not sold everywhere all of the time. It is used by the Australian and New Zealand postal workers for example.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 2 жыл бұрын
A big miss on Thailand Honda design team for not making a dual range gearbox for this bike.
@ccroy2001
@ccroy2001 3 жыл бұрын
The 1st motorcycle I ever rode was a Trail 90. A classic design nice to see it back.
@jasonstewart3748
@jasonstewart3748 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was the trail 50 I remember my dad slaming on the brakes to stop and ask if the owners would sell it...$35 it lasted me from 1992 to 2004 electrical issues ended it.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 3 жыл бұрын
You can "feather the clutch" when downshifting but it takes left foot finesse. The shifter also momentarily disengages the clutch, so if you push the shifter then slowly release the foot shifter pressure, the clutch will engage softly. I've been riding these Honda trail bikes since the 1970's, it takes practice.
@waylon9764
@waylon9764 2 жыл бұрын
Its the same for the honda four wheelers
@robertrosicki9290
@robertrosicki9290 3 жыл бұрын
I'd miss the " High/Low" range select lever my old CT110 had on the transmission . That range select really made the 110 versatile for off road in low range . .
@potatochobit
@potatochobit 3 жыл бұрын
true but your max speed in high was less than 50mph already? even with high gearing this thing wont stay near 60mph due to approaching the horsepower limits. it will do 55mph easy on a flat road as long as it is not windy.
@Buck1954
@Buck1954 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. The High-low ability is what gave this bike it's true ability and that was to explore the trails and difficult places, not as a highway bike.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a 71 which the PO had paid PowRoll to build up the engine with a 125cc stroker kit. It could effortlessly cruise at 60 but you had to run aviation L110.
@claytonkirby878
@claytonkirby878 2 жыл бұрын
My atc honda 110 had that in 1978 i know what yah mean very cool feature
@mmanjin
@mmanjin 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my time growing up in the country. Very reminiscent of a Honda 65 I had as a young kid back in the 60’s and a Honda Trail 70 a decade later. Both were a lot of fun.
@keithlucas6260
@keithlucas6260 3 жыл бұрын
I had the 1964 Honda trail 55...wish I had taken better care of it. Had two 1968 CL 90s later on which I liked better. As teenagers in the 60's it was about the "look" and step thru's were "girly" back then. Still have a mint 1970's SL 125 though.
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithlucas6260 I had an SL70 - your 125 would be so cool!
@Ukrainianification
@Ukrainianification 3 жыл бұрын
Honda makes honestly the best bikes overall with almost bulletproof drivetrains
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j 3 жыл бұрын
Suzuki.
@crazyewok8742
@crazyewok8742 3 жыл бұрын
@@1990-t1j all the Japanese companies are good. But I’d say Honda is probably the best out of them overall. Each company has some good bikes. They’re also the most expensive out of the other Japanese companies but not as expensive as a bmw
@Max_Marz
@Max_Marz 3 жыл бұрын
2500 miles on my ct125 now, mine pops out of gear constantly. It's really annoying. Putting a cbr125r motor on it tho so.. :p
@DarkLinkAD
@DarkLinkAD 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazyewok8742 Yamaha and BMW are greater than Honda
@yamkaw346
@yamkaw346 3 жыл бұрын
@@Max_Marz huh, surely just a miss adjusted clutch or shifter or something right? No way it’s having real engine trouble already. Regardless a real clutch from the cbr would be a huge upgrade
@lopan1698
@lopan1698 3 жыл бұрын
When the most produced motor vehicle in the entire history of Man finally gets a _REAL_ refreshl for the first time in half a century
@lopan1698
@lopan1698 3 жыл бұрын
@@helpfulcommenter My heartfelt sympathies go out to you, wherever you are on the spectrum
@yamkaw346
@yamkaw346 3 жыл бұрын
@@helpfulcommenter I believe he meant that everyone already knows what you’re saying. So you look dumb saying it again as if you know something that everyone and their mother doesn’t already know. And the trail cub is accounted in that 100million sales number. So this indeed is the most sold vehicle ever.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 3 жыл бұрын
@@helpfulcommenter The Super cub C-100's were sold in the US, as where the Passports and a number of pressed steel type C-XXX series bikes. And in some countries like Vietnam the old C-100 is still being made with a more modern engine. The Trails series started in 1964 with the C105-T and the first of the C-200 87cc pushrod Trail 90's I've owned a number of the early Trails. including a no transfer case '66 Trail 90 with the OHC 89 cc engine. I actually prefer the old pushrod engines, they're tough, and cleverly designed.
@hammond2600
@hammond2600 3 жыл бұрын
Many many moons ago, I had a Honda Mini Trail 70. This new one looks very similar in style.
@PSBEadventures
@PSBEadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Great review man. I got one in February and have put about 1600mi on it. More than half of them on some pretty gnarly trails. I've had it up to the seat in rivers and streams and climbed some pretty nasty trails. I have a few reviews of it including one with some aftermarket exhaust. In the future I plan on doing some of the trans America trail on it and record my adventures. Feel free to scope out any videos you want. Appreciate you doing this one!!! Everyone comes up to me everywhere I go and ask about it!
@waylon9764
@waylon9764 2 жыл бұрын
Dude thats awesome, im suprised it can ford water like that
@mikef888au1
@mikef888au1 3 жыл бұрын
OMG this brings back memories. These bikes were used by postmen and women in Australia from around 1980's, starting with C90 (90cc motor), and upgrading to 110cc in 1994. I believe they were the highest selling "motorcycle" in the world. The Australian version (for Australia Post), had a gear lock....When in first gear, your roll backwards and shift down. This would lock the gearbox and the rear wheel. In conjunction with a "handbrake" which locked the front wheel brake on, this would allow the postman to use both hands, to select and deliver postal items to letterboxes situated on the top of mounds. I recall actually falling over backwards from a mound when delivering mail once in Sydney! These bikes were the most fun, and in Australia, postal workers were permitted to ride on the footpaths. Thanks for this great video. I retired some 8 years ago, and will always have fond memories of these rugged little bikes.
@BYLRPhil
@BYLRPhil 3 жыл бұрын
I got an 84 110 last year. I love it! It’s got that low range these 125s don’t have.
@kduggins2642
@kduggins2642 3 жыл бұрын
Growing up we had two 110s. The low range and spare gas tank was really useful for trail riding. Thanks to the high air intake point (and exhaust outlet) deep water crossings up to the bottom of the seat were done on multiple occasions. Seems sacrilegious to put street tires on one.
@judobear1
@judobear1 3 жыл бұрын
What no low range? That is a key feature in my mind. I have a 90 with low range and that bike is like a tractor and will climb any hill like a mountain goat:)
@taco472
@taco472 3 жыл бұрын
@@judobear1 yeah I think the missed the boat on that one.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 3 жыл бұрын
@@taco472 the Hunter Trail comes with a wider spread of gears ratios and the engine is long stroke. So it 's more than capable of plonking along at trail riding speeds while having enough power to climb out of holes like the old Trails could
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 3 жыл бұрын
@@helpfulcommenter Years ago I owned a '70 trail 90 with a Powroll 125 stroker hop up kit. Believe me that engine didn't need the low range as the torque came on at about 2000 rpm and was relentless. First in low range was almost useless.
@active6302
@active6302 3 жыл бұрын
Canada needs and deserves this bike! Bring it on Honda!!!
@active6302
@active6302 3 жыл бұрын
@UnderBridge Rock Go back under your rock
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 3 жыл бұрын
50 plus years and it’s still a viable transportation option, I fixed my father n laws 72’CT 90, I love that little bike.
@SLOBeachboy
@SLOBeachboy 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Frankly I never quite understood why there have been no underbone frame motorcycles sold in the USA since the old Honda Super Cub or the Trail 90’s back in the 70’s. After all, in Southeast Asian countries virtually all of the bikes on the road are of this type. And in fact, when I lived in Thailand I really loved my Honda Wave. It’s the perfect bike for the types of conditions you encounter over there and it handles fairly decent as well for what it is. It does tend to bog down quite a bit on steep grades, particularly with a passenger on the back, but otherwise it’s a great little bike. I guess there is just no market for these things in the USA. Apparently 99 percent of the riders here either want a powerful superbike, a large cruiser, or a dirt bike. And the remaining one percent want a motor scooter - probably because they have seen Quadraphenia one too many times, or they are just hipsters who want to seem more European. Personally I can’t stand to ride motor scooters though because they just don’t handle very well at all. By the way, to those who do not know what a motor scooter is they are easily identifiable by the fact that they have small diameter wheels, a flat pan to rest your feet on, and the engine, transmission, and rear wheel are all pretty much one unsprung unit. Perhaps another reason that underbone motorcycles are not popular here is because people associate them with mopeds, and in fact many Americans still mistakenly refer to underbone frame motorcycles as “mopeds”. A true moped of course has pedals, no transmission, and cannot have larger than a 50cc motor.
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 3 жыл бұрын
@@SLOBeachboy some of the scooters now are really fast, like the 650cc Suzuki Bergman, those things fly. I just don’t feel real comfortable with my feet together on running boards. But yeh, like you said there aren’t many step thru designs anymore. They were stamped steel frames, cheap and easy to manufacture. If they made those now with old cheaper technology and bare bones basic features they’d sell like mad. For $2000 so they’d be affordable for most people..
@marcmaz21
@marcmaz21 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely getting one of these in my garage. Small bikes are the most fun. Nothing to prove!!!
@kevincortes8807
@kevincortes8807 3 жыл бұрын
ABGBSeKB
@Akibatai00
@Akibatai00 3 жыл бұрын
To avoid the back wheel from skidding when downshifting, just slowly release the shift lever after pressing it down to downshift.
@theduke7268
@theduke7268 3 жыл бұрын
There is no clutch lever
@Akibatai00
@Akibatai00 3 жыл бұрын
You don't know the difference between a clutch lever and a shift lever?
@dieselgeezer18
@dieselgeezer18 3 жыл бұрын
@@theduke7268 he said "shift lever" not "clutch lever"
@bjorn1583
@bjorn1583 3 жыл бұрын
@@Akibatai00 on the ct's the shift lever is the clutch lever and the proper way to stop the wheel lock up is to rev match on down shift
@Akibatai00
@Akibatai00 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjorn1583 I know the shift lever is also the clutch lever on the CT. I have bought one and riding it since late last year.
@Trail_Rides
@Trail_Rides 3 жыл бұрын
I had a ct70 when I was a kid. I’m 42 now and that bike is the reason I still ride today. So much fun.
@evs8383
@evs8383 3 жыл бұрын
With the semi autos you can still manually blip the throttle so that you don't lock up the rear wheel while down shifting. I do it all the time on my xr50...solved the problem. You should give it a shot hopefully it'll fix your issue.
@shawnlizeleatherdale4052
@shawnlizeleatherdale4052 3 жыл бұрын
I had a CT 70 growing up, loved it
@negachin2334
@negachin2334 3 жыл бұрын
Same, mine was a passport 70 but they are the same bike :)
@havevanmusttravel
@havevanmusttravel 3 жыл бұрын
Good review! I remember the original "Trail 90's". This is a sharp looking bike and you can't beat Honda quality. This bike would be ideal for me to run errands and just tootle around town. I used to race motocross back in my teens and used to ride some street bikes. But now in my 60's the "Honda 125 Trail" would suit me just fine.
@wes326
@wes326 2 жыл бұрын
My daughter and her fiancee just bought two. Will have a chance to ride one next week. The low range transmission is what made these bikes different. Also would be nice if they were lighter. Almost weighs as much as my 1972 XL 250. Thanks for sharing.
@ne2i
@ne2i 3 жыл бұрын
The Nostalgia is strong with this one!
@G31mR
@G31mR 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a new, yellow CT90 in 1964. My first motorcycle. What memories this new one brings back.
@wardfittings8227
@wardfittings8227 3 жыл бұрын
In the 80's I read meters for a utility company in Phoenix and we rode Honda 110 trailbikes. Great little motorbike.
@larrynorsworthy8582
@larrynorsworthy8582 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a dream job.
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 3 жыл бұрын
@@larrynorsworthy8582 that’s what I thought too, damn I’m almost 55 and I’d do that now just to ride lol
@zdiver1
@zdiver1 3 жыл бұрын
WARD 90 degree Iron fittings painted machine gray.
@OriginalOwner777
@OriginalOwner777 Жыл бұрын
Although I do not have a scooter or bike now when I did I found the 125cc to be the sweet spot for around town and the grass tracking type offroad. The most fun I had on all of my bikes was with a honda XL125R the trials style semi off road of the bike made it a great allrounder. It was not the fastest 125 in the house yet it would push 70-80mph at a maximum which is more than enough to get you out of trouble on a major out of town road here in the UK. It could cruise all day at 30mph and was economical on fuel, with fuel price hikes I am guessing the average commuting to work person could run it all month on less than £15 of fuel when I had mine in the early 2000's I was spending on average 5-10 a month and covering 200-400miles ish a month occasionally I had to top up more but not often and only a few £
@charlespratt8663
@charlespratt8663 3 жыл бұрын
The fun bike that makes you smile always gets the most attention.
@hipskipne1984
@hipskipne1984 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you need attention when you ride? Ego that broke?
@charlespratt8663
@charlespratt8663 3 жыл бұрын
@@hipskipne1984 Ego would have you riding a liter bike.
@clavo3352
@clavo3352 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted a Honda CL 125 in 1975. It was a taller bike with a vertical cylinder. Drove like a dream. You didn't mention the price range for this bike.
@WarpMotor
@WarpMotor 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my pc50😃, new old school. "You meet the nicest people on a Honda"
@jackvoss175
@jackvoss175 3 жыл бұрын
I found that I lost a few things off of a rear rack that were “sufficiently secured”, but never lost anything that was “tied on better than it really needed to be”. Bungees work to maintain a constant downward tension, but on rough terrain the load can bounce, momentarily stretching out a bungee, and the load can start to creep during that instant. A series of chattery bumps allow a load to shift more than you want it to. A rope, lashed tightly, presents a definite outer limit of travel for a load on rough or chattery surfaces. But the rope also has an inner limit of travel. It does NOT get any snugger fitting than when it is originally tied and secured. I found that ONLY with a combination of bungee AND rope did gear reliably remain aboard no matter of what surface I rode on. Boxes never worked well for me.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 2 жыл бұрын
1 1/4" stainless hose clamps work wonders for mounting milk crates.
@laranaarana
@laranaarana 3 жыл бұрын
I sure miss riding on my SL-125 Honda. I sued to go everywhere with it (i was 14 when my father gave it to me for Christmas in 1976).
@The1stHomosapien
@The1stHomosapien 3 жыл бұрын
you sued who?
@rvail136
@rvail136 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my xwife an ADV 150...and then I bought 2 more for my girlfriend and I. These little bikes/scooters are a blast to ride (I ride a Kawasaki Concours 14 as a daily driver), and I've been riding for 44 years.
@gerrycollins9409
@gerrycollins9409 3 жыл бұрын
The old 90/110’s had a seat that was available that went on top of the rack and they had foot pegs for the rear passenger.
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney 3 жыл бұрын
My first bike was a ‘73 Trail 90 that had already passed through a succession of older uncles and cousins. I got it in the late 90s as a 13-or-so-year-old, rode it til probably 2004 before getting my first Yamaha TW200 (I have two TWs now, they’re the greatest) and giving the 90 to my younger cousin, who rode it for several more years. Aside from oil, spark plugs/wires, tires/tubes, chains/sprockets, and levers when they broke, I don’t think the bike ever had ANY maintenance or repairs over like 40 years, haha! It was slow, but with knobbies it’d go anywhere. I’ll almost certainly be buying one of these for a girlfriend/loaner trail bike. Anyone should be able to ride it regardless of experience level. I wish it had power enough to comfortably run 55-60 for slightly longer rides on 2-lane state roads, but it’s still a cool little capable beginner backroad/trail bike and I’m sure it’ll do well. I hope it’s as dependable and indestructible as its old namesake.
@gregoryjames7976
@gregoryjames7976 3 жыл бұрын
Had a trail 90 back in the 1970's. Was a lot of fun.
@bill5552
@bill5552 3 жыл бұрын
So did I. With the dual rear sprocket. Those bikes were unbreakable.
@extraplain
@extraplain 3 жыл бұрын
The rear tire skidding during downshifting is attributed to driver error. The auto-clutch engine wasn't designed to be downshifted at that high of RPM. You would achieve the same results by downshifting a street bike at 9.000 RPM and suddenly releasing the clutch. Instead, simply downshift at a lower RPM, and use your brakes to slow down. Otherwise, this was a great review of a bike that I didn't even know was being released until I saw the KZbin thumbnail pop up .
@steveans
@steveans 3 жыл бұрын
Aussie Postie Bike. Much loved.
@MrLeo7627
@MrLeo7627 3 жыл бұрын
A mailman delivery vehicle for Australia says a lot . Wow! What cc were they ?
@GringoLoco
@GringoLoco 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeo7627 motorbikewriter.com/honda-postie-an-australian-institution/
@jonathandance7372
@jonathandance7372 2 жыл бұрын
Problem with downshifting? Are you blipping the throttle? Even though it's semi-auto you still need to do this to match engine speed to new gear....
@javlynblue2024
@javlynblue2024 3 жыл бұрын
The trail series. Just Awesome. Any year.
@markonmotoring
@markonmotoring 3 жыл бұрын
I've rode a Honda Wave when visiting the Philippines (known as Inova in Europe). The wave also uses a 125cc 4 speed set up. Incredible versatile machine. Fast enough to cut through traffic and can maintain 60 mph on the highway. Great for dirt roads too.
@iray3242
@iray3242 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see TFL do a mini adventure on one of these bikes
@johntyson
@johntyson 3 жыл бұрын
Run it up the Ike!
@OtterPup_
@OtterPup_ 3 жыл бұрын
I also wish they would do an off-road adventure 😮‍💨
@kevinrusso6849
@kevinrusso6849 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia we have these earlier model bikes used as mail delivery , called postie bikes , look up on you tube Postie bike Adventures
@hazcat640
@hazcat640 3 жыл бұрын
Take a look at the channel Some Guy Rides. He has done the Smokey Mountain 500 trail and is doing the TAT (2000 miles) now.
@prw6058
@prw6058 3 жыл бұрын
We had a trail 90 when i was a kid, my brother still has it!
@stevenbrooks1243
@stevenbrooks1243 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw one of these at my local honda dealer my very first bike 25 years ago was a 1968 CT90
@soulerflare7
@soulerflare7 3 жыл бұрын
How fast was the 90 on a flat road ?
@pappaclutch3266
@pappaclutch3266 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I’ve had the original T90 my whole life. It’s funny it’s so old it’s been forgotten about yet now with the new one everyone is liking it. My bike has about 500,000 miles on it with just the usual maintenance, most of its life has been Yellowstone, California mountains and Arizona deserts
@jonmarmari5982
@jonmarmari5982 3 жыл бұрын
You can rev the engine while you shift. What I usually do is downshift then rev a bit before releasing.
@jbblister
@jbblister 3 жыл бұрын
We used these in central Africa in the 80's for deep tourne´s into the bush for vaccination runs. We would regularly attach a large petrol fridge onto that cargo platform and head out onto jungle singletrack for a week or more. Low center of gravity made for a stable ride under load and we never had any breakdowns to speak of other than flats. A solid workhorse of a bike.
@rodneybugher9312
@rodneybugher9312 3 жыл бұрын
The way to shift is to let off the throttle at the same time you shift, and don't downshift too soon.
@FrankieJen
@FrankieJen 3 жыл бұрын
The way you shift is blipping there throttle to match rpm when you downshift.
@SaschaFerda
@SaschaFerda 3 жыл бұрын
Semi-autos are no good for engine braking. Downshift only when you need to get back on the gas and the gear is too high. When you slow down for a stop, leave it in whatever gear you are in and downshift after you stop. I have owned several Honda Semi-Autos. While the trani can take a ton of abuse, you are mistreating it if you ride it like that, and you will wear out tires like crazy.
@jamiecleeves7921
@jamiecleeves7921 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@unicorn-mk9ku
@unicorn-mk9ku 3 жыл бұрын
Just a piece of advise... When you downshift, try releasing the gear slowly while applying gas... So the rear tire wont jerk... It's like having a clutch... it takes practice and you'll get use to it...
@whereswaldo5740
@whereswaldo5740 3 жыл бұрын
That rack is awesome. I kept a wool army blanket on mine held in place by a helmet bungee net and was very useful. I bought a couple watermelons throughout summer from a local market. And at the red light people had their windows down and I could hear them say Hey! Look at that! Ha ha. He’s got a watermelon on there. That’s cool.
@contemporaryprimitiveman3469
@contemporaryprimitiveman3469 3 жыл бұрын
Had one in the 70's. Took that thing everywhere.
@dardotoscano9319
@dardotoscano9319 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!, a work of art, not like the boring electric bikes
@towerhillbilly
@towerhillbilly 3 жыл бұрын
Great review!.. The heel and toe shifter was popular on italian bikes back in the sixties so businessmen going to work could shift without scuffing the toe of their patent leather shoe
@jK-zv7nk
@jK-zv7nk 3 жыл бұрын
I wish these came in multiple colors - it would be a fun commuter for driving around town or exploring lol
@captainskippy6622
@captainskippy6622 3 жыл бұрын
In the 70’s when I was a teenager my buddy had a Trail 70 and I had an XR75. Oh Lordy we had fun. I may have to look at one of these for nostalgia’s sake.
@clifflong1203
@clifflong1203 3 жыл бұрын
You meet the nicest people on a Honda😏👍
@jimpinel
@jimpinel 3 жыл бұрын
I had one of those 90's when i was a kid. it went pretty good and nothing stopped it. fun bike
@FastSloW-qt8xf
@FastSloW-qt8xf 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect bike for scootin around down at the beach or at a campsite
@jonathanvalencia-lugo7325
@jonathanvalencia-lugo7325 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a 7-minute ad from Apple about starting a packaging company. Greatest ad ever.
@kwhatten
@kwhatten 3 жыл бұрын
"This" is beyond weird to me. This video was in my suggested videos; I don't usually look at motorcycle videos. But just 2 hours ago I saw two of these parked together and I spent a few minutes checking them out! Big Brother must be watching!
@cD-vg5go
@cD-vg5go 3 жыл бұрын
Shhhhh
@dougiekavanagh7508
@dougiekavanagh7508 8 ай бұрын
TFlbike I just bought a 2024 Honda Trail 125. Honda One installed a gear indicator, sweet ride.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Ай бұрын
Interesting i did t know you could get a gear indicator on the trail. A 4 speed through makes a gear indicator unnessessary if you ask me. I also bought a 2024 trail a week ago. Worth it i wanted a yellow before they stopped selling yellow. Great bike for locally in the REAL WORLD which is 99.99% of my riding
@brianborell4469
@brianborell4469 3 жыл бұрын
In Australia they used these to deliver mail to remote sheep stations and call them posties.
@birdley9577
@birdley9577 3 жыл бұрын
They still use them in my town.
@outbackeddie
@outbackeddie 3 жыл бұрын
I had a trail 90 back in the early '70s. It was the most fun motorcycle I ever had because you could take it anywhere. If you fell, you just picked it up, dusted yourself off, and kept on going. I kick myself every time I think about the day I sold it.
@matto.1074
@matto.1074 3 жыл бұрын
Grew up riding something like this on my Grandmas farm many years ago, early 80s. ❤️
@orionseesall76
@orionseesall76 3 жыл бұрын
My G'ma had 2 Trail 90s we would ride also in the 80s. My first foray into motorcycles👍🏼😎👍🏼
@johntyson
@johntyson 3 жыл бұрын
I think every farm had at least one dust covered Honda in the barn that the grandkids would dig out when they visited.
@philipfreeman72
@philipfreeman72 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering if fuel injected ?
@synner707
@synner707 3 жыл бұрын
90 got a facelift. Made it from Malaysia to the UK, Alaska to Argentina.
@ghostofmanitou6864
@ghostofmanitou6864 3 жыл бұрын
I have a full size touring bike and still like these tiny bikes. They will always be a blast to ride.
@nycat5132
@nycat5132 3 жыл бұрын
First time seeing this channel excellent review.
@randylucas2458
@randylucas2458 3 жыл бұрын
In 1976 I got a Honda 90s and a trail 90 those were my bikes until 79 when I went up to a 350 and a 450 eventually at 750 and then a Gold Wing...6 of them now I have an old Roadglide
@outbackeddie
@outbackeddie 3 жыл бұрын
My CL350 was one of my favorite bikes of all time. I owned a Trail 90 at the same time and it was my desert fun bike for at least 10 years. My 350 went 40,000 miles before I sold it to a friend.
@patrickalmquist4762
@patrickalmquist4762 3 жыл бұрын
The clutch on a “simi automatic” transmission is in the shifter. So when shifting and downshifting if you ease off the shifter it won’t jerk.
@JohnSmith-uy7sv
@JohnSmith-uy7sv 3 жыл бұрын
how do you ease off of a shifter? 🤣 You can ease off the gas, but you press the pedal up or down. You can't ease it up or down. Shifting is shifting.
@patrickalmquist4762
@patrickalmquist4762 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-uy7sv I’ve got 2 trail 90s In my garage but I guess I don’t know anything.😂
@JohnSmith-uy7sv
@JohnSmith-uy7sv 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickalmquist4762 Apparently not. you still did not answer what it is to "ease off the shifter." Never said you didn't know anything. Looking for an explanation of what you meant by that. Never heard of that.
@loganellis5449
@loganellis5449 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-uy7sv probably the same way you ease off the clutch 🤷‍♂️
@JohnSmith-uy7sv
@JohnSmith-uy7sv 3 жыл бұрын
@@loganellis5449 you can't ease off of a shifter pedal. 🙄🙈🤪
@darthgrundle2349
@darthgrundle2349 2 жыл бұрын
Great too see this upgraded Trail 90! Had a trail 90 back in the 70's before I got my license. Used it strictly off road and had a blast! My friends used to make fun of me because they said I road a chick bike. They stopped laughing when I would go through stuff they couldn't. Their 2 strokes would die from fouled plugs on the tight trails we used to ride, lol!
@HKWahl72
@HKWahl72 3 жыл бұрын
These bikes should be sold in Norway... :-/ I just bought a Honda Monkey 4 weeks ago, but I also want a Honda Trail :)
@gordon4952
@gordon4952 3 жыл бұрын
EU emission regulations.. I hope that a 2022 Modell will have the new grom engine, so that we can have the trail 125
@HKWahl72
@HKWahl72 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordon4952 Ok, now I understand why the Honda Monkey no longer is on sale in Norway in 2021. The Honda Monkey I bought is an 2020 modell.
@gordon4952
@gordon4952 3 жыл бұрын
Weird, in Germany we have a monkey 2021
@andrewstambaugh240
@andrewstambaugh240 3 жыл бұрын
have some friends who love trail bikes. What you said about downshifting, I found the same thing on clutchless crf bikes (70's etc). upshifting was ok, but every downshift even at moderate speed on grass was a half second of the back wheel locking up with not much I could do about it. A clutch just for downshifting would have been nice, but also for hill climbs. If the engine slows down too much, it stops engaging the wheels. At first that sounds good, no stall right? But the problem is you have no clutch to keep the revs up. So when it starts to overbog, it slips out, suddenly changing your balance, but instead of giving it a gripful and feathering a clutch to slowly apply power, it bogs releases, then speeds up a little and catches, and bogs again, lurch lurch lurch. and your best option is giving it a bunch of throttle so that it revs a bit higher when it releases, so that maybe it can get above the bog, maybe.
@larryashmore489
@larryashmore489 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. Honda owes you one.
@randyhilger9114
@randyhilger9114 3 жыл бұрын
It started out in 1964 or 1965 as a pushrod motor I have a yellow one yet
@nealchambers2306
@nealchambers2306 3 жыл бұрын
The back wheel skids because you're changing down gear at too higher revs
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 3 жыл бұрын
that why I let my bike slow on engine compression in 4th until abou6t 20 mph and the do a quick shift down to first. and remember to feather in the clutch with your toe.
@ilovelimpfries
@ilovelimpfries 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't know how to ride a moped. Here's a tip, you can do a full stop in 4th gear and go down the gear while stationery. The engine wont stall. Edit: riding a bike with centrifugal clutch is exactly like driving an automatic car. Except you have to initiate the gearshift yourself. Its impossible to stall an engine with centrifugal clutch unless you take off in 3rd gear or higher. Forget about the throttle and just change gear when the revs is low, unless if you're doing a complete stop. When/if you coming a complete stop, only shift down when you're completely stationary. Source: i ride a lot of underbone bikes in south east asia.
@bjorn1583
@bjorn1583 3 жыл бұрын
its because he dont rev match on the down shift causing compression lock
@ilovelimpfries
@ilovelimpfries 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjorn1583 you cant rev match a centrifugal clutch. If you rev the bike, the clutch will engage. The only time the clutch will disengaged is when you let of the throttle. So shift down while completely off throttle and watch your speed.
@bjorn1583
@bjorn1583 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovelimpfries l ride one hard for between 4 1/2 and 6 hours aday 5 days a week and l say you can rev match on down shift. ps. the clutch will disengage at any rpm by pressing on the gear lever. pss. the honda cb 's are not mopeds
@diz_guy47
@diz_guy47 2 жыл бұрын
I just got this, and I received alot of compliments.
@556suppressor
@556suppressor 3 жыл бұрын
I see myself riding this when I can't ride my Honda 1300cc V4 anymore.
@jimmagnus1200
@jimmagnus1200 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, I gave up my 1300 a few years ago and I'm really considering this bike. After 50 plus years of riding, I am really missing it. I think this bike may be the answer.
@marcmaz21
@marcmaz21 3 жыл бұрын
Either after I’m done with my CB1100 or I might just buy one for the wife and ride it myself. I dig it
@glowiever
@glowiever 3 жыл бұрын
honda has several underbone motorcycles. I'm curious if they are sold in the western world. they're popular in asia.
@MrJaz8088
@MrJaz8088 3 жыл бұрын
Always a Aus Post Bike to me, yep CT 70, 90 and 110 we had here
@serwhit2490
@serwhit2490 3 жыл бұрын
I've always thumbed my nose at the trail 125, but I can get away with almost anything on that bike and the supermoto turns me into a hooligan. 🤣
@qaq8409
@qaq8409 3 жыл бұрын
In Japan the trail125 (or we call it the hunter cub ct125) can carry two persons. There’s an add-on seat that you can buy and put on the back
@MichaelJohnson-fe8tm
@MichaelJohnson-fe8tm 3 жыл бұрын
Needs 200cc and 5 speed gearbox for the USA
@ZSmith-yy4lv
@ZSmith-yy4lv 3 жыл бұрын
What makes these bikes great is the fact that they are tiny. If you want a bigger bike they are plentiful.
@yamkaw346
@yamkaw346 3 жыл бұрын
People seem to get along just fine on the grom with the same engine
@ultimatederp5069
@ultimatederp5069 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I agree, my city has pretty high speed limits (45+ in many areas) and while people do ride Groms and such I find them too slow to manage traffic.
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 3 жыл бұрын
My fave small Hondas were the 1970s 125s with overhead cam. They made a bit more power but still gave >100 miles per U.K. gallon. CB125S, XL125, SL125.
@whereswaldo5740
@whereswaldo5740 3 жыл бұрын
I missed it. Where’s the claw?
@rencarlos5683
@rencarlos5683 3 жыл бұрын
Grew up having a Honda dream. Everyone of my classmates took turns being my passenger. Thyy all loved it and thought I was really cool to be riding a motorcycle. So many memories so many things I was able to do because I had my bike. Then I got an rs 125 Yamaha. Now I have a cb125 more popularly known as honda cb shine. It's an awesome bike. 125cc., classic look., high clearance, and has scrambler capabilities. Literally rode it to a waterfall(it has a snorkel). Me and my wife both love it. Truth be told, we'd be in therapy if we didn't have our bike. This year she'll get her own Honda tmx125 and she'd never be home then. But hey we'd still be married.
@gl4989
@gl4989 3 жыл бұрын
Of course not in Canada. I just want a small bike with a bit of character!!!
@Whateva67
@Whateva67 3 жыл бұрын
We get ripped off here in Canada,I keep asking when the monkey is coming but never get a good answer 😡
@sfriedman35
@sfriedman35 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is really too bad, but it costs $3900 in the US it would be around $5000 here + dealer fees and tax you're looking at over $6000 out the door - that is too much.
@davestock9228
@davestock9228 3 жыл бұрын
"Clutch" control comes with experience on these bikes. Hard to explain but it's all in the gear lever. If you hold the lever up or down it selects the gear but let's the engine free rev. As pressure on the lever is released the "clutch" grabs and off you go. Great for burnouts, wheelies and downshifting.
@whatsinanamethatthecaptive577
@whatsinanamethatthecaptive577 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, love the bike. I would recommend using your front and rear brakes applied evenly to slow the bike rather than down shifting as a brake. Down shift like that while in a corner and you may have the ride of your life (or death).
@geraldtakala1721
@geraldtakala1721 Жыл бұрын
Same with braking in a corner
@arobjavan9481
@arobjavan9481 3 жыл бұрын
Honda , please make the tires tubeless so I can fix it when I get a flat in the middle of nowhere.
@stoplogicmotorsports
@stoplogicmotorsports 3 жыл бұрын
My wife wants one of these badly, I want to motovlog it on single track lol.
@Jack671975
@Jack671975 3 жыл бұрын
unless youre in australia where there a dime a dozen as the postal service uses them. We call them postie bike.
@bjarnemartens
@bjarnemartens 3 жыл бұрын
We need this model in Europe. Would be perfect for the TET route.
@mononcyoyo
@mononcyoyo 3 жыл бұрын
You guys have fine mopeds and bike alikes Solex style
@torukmakto8262
@torukmakto8262 3 жыл бұрын
its the CT 125 Hunter here in Japan
@Skycosis
@Skycosis 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Honda would offer a slightly beefed up version of the Trail 125, It would be nice to be able to take something like this on the highway here in SLC.
@lakesunapeetradeproanderso4356
@lakesunapeetradeproanderso4356 3 жыл бұрын
The only way 2 add power is replace it w a ktm.
@FatBikeRacer
@FatBikeRacer 2 жыл бұрын
It has a clutch, keep the shifter depressed and blip the throttle on downshifts.
@robd6827
@robd6827 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing missing on this bike is the hi-lo option like the early models had...
@doultonkabret6859
@doultonkabret6859 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with others that the $4000 price is a bit high for a small motorcycle/scooter. Another issue is that many states in the US require a motorcycle drivers license to operate anything with more than 49cc on public streets/roads. Before buying, people should definitely check their state laws on motorcycle drivers licenses and engine sizes.
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