This $40,000 Tesla Solar & Powerwall Setup Is The Ultimate Home Power Station

  Рет қаралды 107,267

Out of Spec Reviews

Out of Spec Reviews

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 714
@OutofSpecReviews
@OutofSpecReviews 7 ай бұрын
Would anyone be interested in an energy channel? Wouldn't really be car related but more on the production, distribution, storage, and usage of everything energy!
@KyleConner
@KyleConner 7 ай бұрын
Duhhhhh
@intellectualwino8696
@intellectualwino8696 7 ай бұрын
Hell yes. Full send, please. This is very important, and was, for me, an important pre-requisite to have in place before buying an EV.
@mr.random6294
@mr.random6294 7 ай бұрын
Yes. So many avenues to go down.
@ScoobyFermentation
@ScoobyFermentation 7 ай бұрын
I would love it, but please try not to make it all about Tesla. I would argue most home solar installations are not Tesla systems and they don’t operate in a LOT of states.
@KyleConner
@KyleConner 7 ай бұрын
@@ScoobyFermentationit would be a lot of grid scale stuff, mostly beyond home energy
@urgetodrive
@urgetodrive 7 ай бұрын
Been living with a setup like this for almost 4 years. Life is good being your own utility company.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 7 ай бұрын
you still need the grig lol...
@jackylsmith8138
@jackylsmith8138 7 ай бұрын
Especially him. Over 50% of his power is grid power.
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 7 ай бұрын
@@alanmay7929 You do if you size your system to take advantage of net metering. But you can obviously size your system such that you can live completely off the grid. However, why do that when, as was mentioned, you have net metering? Now with that said, electric suppliers are getting scared and are forcing politicians to change the rules on net metering, such that while it still exists, maybe they sell you electricity at 20cents per kWh, but they only buy it from you at 4. In cases like that, if you still want to go solar, it makes sense to have more storage (preferably LFP, which can handle more charge/discharge cycles) and live off of battery power at night, so you're using the grid less and less.
@cweberusa
@cweberusa 7 ай бұрын
I’m in the same boat. Installed solar and battery first in 2019, sized to accommodate going all electric eventually, and then added EV, heat pump and heat pump-driven water heater. The gas line is locked by the utility now, couldn’t use it even if I wanted to.
@KiwiShoot
@KiwiShoot 7 ай бұрын
Same. Purchased a total of 2 kw from the grid last month. Yeah, that'll do. And running 2 x EV's.
@scotthuette
@scotthuette 7 ай бұрын
Undecided with Matt Ferrel said in one of his videos that there was a Tesla bug that was overstating power production. He said Marques Brownlee had the same bug. Maybe that explained the 15 kw production on a 10kw system.
@MrTekniqs
@MrTekniqs 7 ай бұрын
It was showing double the actual output so quite possible. That is, Marquez and Matt were showing double the amount of output compared to what they were getting.
@m-user-4929
@m-user-4929 7 ай бұрын
That’s right, it’s a known bug. Generating more KW than the rated power defies physics, so it’s obviously wrong. Can’t believe Tesla solar hasn’t fixed this bug for all users already.
@aarontshaffer
@aarontshaffer 7 ай бұрын
Yes, this. It is important that this be mentioned.
@Group51
@Group51 7 ай бұрын
It is hard to figure out when the charge the battery. It depends on what you’re using, what you used, and the weather the next day. Why charge full if it’s sunny. And then do the inverters support and smart controls? Don’t think so.
@axion8788
@axion8788 7 ай бұрын
Tesla misstating facts like with their EPA mileage fantasies? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!🤯
@selbyjohnson5986
@selbyjohnson5986 7 ай бұрын
I went through a 10 day outage from a hurricane 5 years ago. I spent that time researching solar. I installed a system like this with 3 powerwalls and I have coasted through multiple hurricane outages since then.
@geosh10
@geosh10 7 ай бұрын
Love my PowerWalls! They were awesome during our last Hurricane. We lived off grid for 11 days!
@meandmyEV
@meandmyEV 7 ай бұрын
I only have one but man it is so awesome when the power goes out. So far we have only lost power a couple of times for a few hours each time but the only way I knew is the notification on my phone from the power wall. The switch over was instant.
@DblOSmith
@DblOSmith 7 ай бұрын
2 minutes in and I'm so jealous. That's exactly the home setup I want.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 7 ай бұрын
All good except for HOA, a layer of "the man sticking it to you" I wouldn't tolerate.
@joan38
@joan38 7 ай бұрын
I wonder what's the point of batteries when you have net metering? Avoid 3h downtime in the last 2 years?
@Sqeptick
@Sqeptick 7 ай бұрын
We installed a 11.5 kw system a year ago, and I love it. After rebates it ended up costing about the same as a Camry and now I've got free electricity for the rest of my life.
@herbfst
@herbfst 7 ай бұрын
Free? You just pre-paid and if the power goes out, you also lose power. You did nothing to help yourself or improve anything. You now has an added risk, another company to deal with and no upside. Unless you spent another Camry's worth of cash for batteries, total waste of money.
@markmonroe7330
@markmonroe7330 7 ай бұрын
Well, maybe only if you plan on living 10-15 more years. Contrary to people what are told/think, batteries and solar panels do not last forever. And, they also lose performance over the years even prior to their ultimate failure. They also "break" and do need periodic maintenance with circuit boards, wiring and battery issues. A person would need have a *significant* electric bill to even remotely justify this over a short 10-15 year period.
@Sqeptick
@Sqeptick 7 ай бұрын
@@markmonroe7330 30 year warranty, so that's why I say the rest of my life.
@headgardener578
@headgardener578 7 ай бұрын
@@markmonroe7330 most solar panels have a 25 or 30 year power output guarantee of over 80% of original capacity. Panels won't break, there are no moving parts. The inverter will die after maybe 10-15 years. I have a 10 year old EV and the battery is fine, still on around 75% of capacity. The reason solar has been adopted all over the world is because of its reliability.
@jackylsmith8138
@jackylsmith8138 7 ай бұрын
Solar cells lose efficiency every year. So you will slowly lose efficiency. Large hail can also destroy them. Just look what happened to a huge solar farm in Texas.
@scottarseneault6601
@scottarseneault6601 7 ай бұрын
I installed a DIY 10kW 30 panel system for $5000. I made a video about it to make people realize that the systems can be cheap and DIY friendly if you employ a simple ground mount design, and are willing to tackle a relatively simple project on your own. I did this with no prior experience in this area or special equipment or tools. This is the real goal with electric cars, to have the ability to power them with the sun. I don’t have a battery back up yet, but I will be getting my cybertruck in about a month and hopefully with the provided gateway, will be able to use it as a battery back up and have the ability to charge it with the solar panels. I am grid only at this point. Looking forward to the content.
@XDRoX619
@XDRoX619 7 ай бұрын
Would you mind posting a link to that video you made? And did you buy the panels used or new?
@wva5089
@wva5089 6 ай бұрын
​@@XDRoX619 I'm assuming this is the vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSYgaZ7a5Z9mpI
@kentrelt5140
@kentrelt5140 14 күн бұрын
Did you record the project? Can you share?
@joemartino6976
@joemartino6976 7 ай бұрын
Installed a solar array on my roof two years ago, talking to several installers, including Tesla. Ending up going with twenty seven 400 watt Q-Cells equipped with Enphase micro-inverters. Tesla was price competitive, however, there were other concerns. Tesla resists customization on their installs and refused to incorporate micro-inverters to help deal with shading issues. It was also difficult to get a human to talk to and there were persistent rumors about overestimates on power output. Very happy with my current Q-cell setup. My home uses about 11,000 kwh's/year. The solar array produces about 9000 of that and, in addition, Dominion Energy gives me about $400 in additional credits each year, allowing them to count my production towards state requirements on the utility to produce a certain amount of energy from renewable sources. I charge my BMW i4 almost exclusively at home adding about 1350 kwh's to drive roughly 5000 miles/year.
@JohnDoe-xr8dz
@JohnDoe-xr8dz 7 ай бұрын
AMEN! I also chose Enphase for these reasons with no regrets.
@lemongavine
@lemongavine 7 ай бұрын
String inverter setups use optimizers which handle shading the same as micro inverters
@NHRunDad
@NHRunDad 7 ай бұрын
@@lemongavinenot Tesla. They are an old fashioned string inverter. You don’t get panel level views, and have no idea if a panel is underperforming. I have seen their arrays with panels on north facing roofs, etc. Poor conduit work, finishing a job with people waiting months for interconnection, etc. They are so hit or miss. Love the car (own a Model Y and have some stock) but their solar business is a mess. Best batteries in the game though. If your roof has obstructions or shading avoid a Tesla system.
@frederickadowdellsr2495
@frederickadowdellsr2495 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I have solar and have followed you for 2 years and just joined your channel. You Out of Spec reviews on the electric cars are the best. I'm looking to purchase my first ev in June 2024
@blanketwodahs6741
@blanketwodahs6741 7 ай бұрын
I have powerwalls and solar. I charge my cars off the grid at night and export during the day. I live in CA so the cost savings is significant, I can get back over 2x the energy I export. I believe energy storage in general is part of the overall long term benefit of EVs that detractors are missing. Picking up renewable energy and storing it for later will benefit everyone, and better energy storage will come directly out of the mass production of batteries for EVs. Tesla's integration here is next level Apple grade stuff. I am so impressed with the integration and the continuous adding of features, the "overflow solar into the car" being one of them. One negative I can see is you can't set a charge limit on the batteries so they do charge up to 100% every day. In theory that is not good for the powerwall's battery chemistry. In the winter I run my batteries down as little as I can and still arbitrage rates, however during the summer I need all the power I can get from them to run my two AC units so they get run down a lot lower then.
@stanislavzybanov5988
@stanislavzybanov5988 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! His changes make no sense but cycling cells for nothing. Produce during the day to the grid. Consume from the grid during the night.
@kevinfinkas546
@kevinfinkas546 7 ай бұрын
What power wall battery system do you have?
@MidnightO42
@MidnightO42 7 ай бұрын
powerwalls are all LFP, so charging them to 100% is perfectly fine. Their cycle life is crazy long
@blanketwodahs6741
@blanketwodahs6741 7 ай бұрын
@@MidnightO42 Powerwall 2s ? I have powerwall 2s. I could never find any concrete info from Tesla but the internet seems to think Powerwall 2 is nickel cobalt manganese.
@MidnightO42
@MidnightO42 7 ай бұрын
@@blanketwodahs6741Fairly sure. You can confirm it yourself by dividing the kWh for the unit by it's weight. Per google: LFP batteries in EV applications were initially resisted, primarily because an NMC battery has an energy density of 150 to 300 Wh/kg while LFP battery cells have an energy density of 90 to 160 Wh/kg. based on powerall 2 specifications, I got ~122 wh/kg - squarely in the lfp range
@philbull1112
@philbull1112 7 ай бұрын
I'm in the UK and have had a solar PV+Powerwall 2 installation for three years. I've also had a TMYLR for two years. I have 16x400W Sunpower panels on a south-facing roof, feeding a 6kW SolarEdge inverter. PW is AC connected, so provides up to 5kW. My energy distribution network operator placed an export power limit of 5.4kW, so there's a gizmo to throttle the inverter if necessary - actually rarely happens. We have smart utility meters with 30-minute reporting that allow energy suppliers to offer a range of time of day import and export tariffs tailored to EVs, heat pumps, spot-market pricing, etc. I run the PW with the recommended 20% backup reserve because we rarely get power outages and they don't normally last longer than 30 mins. We did have one event when our electricity supply cable joint broke and the PV+PW ran the house off-grid for three days until power was restored. Good job it didn't happen in December! Storm Watch will charge and hold the battery at 100% if wild weather is forecast. This system provides 75% of house energy annualy, 90% if I include smart overnight charging at cheap-rate in the winter. We export 50% of what we generate. I found that exporting surplus solar during the day and charging the car overnight at cheap rate works best. I have a 7kW myenergi smart EV charger. Tesla and our energy provider make available to download loads of very useful system performance data, which I have squirrelled away over the past few years for analysis:)
@dropshot1967
@dropshot1967 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Out of spec energy would most likely be one of my favorite channels A Tesla solar roof pretty much only makes sense if you have to do a major overhaul of your current roof.
@daviidfm923
@daviidfm923 7 ай бұрын
A solar roof almost never makes sense financially. It’s significantly more expensive then just a traditional solar setup and a simple Roof replacement. But they sure are cool
@t.phantom9381
@t.phantom9381 6 ай бұрын
Great video - similar setup with Model 3&Y, 2x Powerwalls and 40 Panels (Panasonics) producing 15kw peak in San Diego… with 25k miles between both cars we only export energy! Love it!
@timhuckabay
@timhuckabay 7 ай бұрын
We are installing a similar system but using Enphase (solar panels micro inverters, controller, and batteries). They can do everything the Tesla can, but costs less. Depending on your utility, they often pay more for your solar (peak hr) production than they charge for your night time (off peak) usage.
@vroomzy1
@vroomzy1 6 ай бұрын
I would keep the powerwall between 20 and 80% and only leave it at 65% minimum if storms are expected. He would import much less electricity. I wish solar was practical for me but I'm a low user of electricity and there is no payback yet in FL. Nice showing of this great system.
@ronhall3269
@ronhall3269 7 ай бұрын
With my Tesla Solar system, I have it set to drain to 20% to power my house. Storm watch would charge it to 100%. When it felt a storm was approaching that could cause an outage. And I always had the ability to immediately charge the battery, if I thought something, that might not be a major storm but enough that there could be an issue I could change the setting to accommodate that.
@richardchandleriii5003
@richardchandleriii5003 2 ай бұрын
The apparent aversion to our national use of “free” energy in the world is truly amazing. As an old guy, I’m very late to this party, but what a shame that building codes can’t be considered that would provide for solar inclusion in new family homes and large buildings. We would be supporting our national power grid and adding directly to security of our country. I know I must be missing something, or a lot, but what ?
@parklandsd
@parklandsd 7 ай бұрын
I would absolutely love to see more content regarding solar and battery back up solutions.
@benjaminkindle1841
@benjaminkindle1841 7 ай бұрын
Yes to out of spec energy! Tesla/EVs was my gateway drug, but now I'm a full-blown green energy nerd
@johnlabernik4599
@johnlabernik4599 7 ай бұрын
You should consider making a video about Tesla Wall Connector Dynamic Power Management. Adding a power meter allows the wall connector to reduce power when the house is pulling a lot of power and allow peak power when home power draw is low. No one is talking about this. It saves thousands in service upgrades, and gives you peak charging.
@scotduckrow8524
@scotduckrow8524 7 ай бұрын
In San Diego we no longer have net metering for NEW systems. Utility wants to pay 2 or 3 cents a unit and charge 39 cents a unit to replace it! Unless a a battery that has 5 times the storage is installed, the payback period is probably increased by 10+ years. If CATL or another competitor can produce a lower energy density (heavier) battery with excellent cycle life, homeowners have the option to shaft the utility that IS shafting them. Also, joining the Tesla VPP program yields far more income. Converting DC to AC and AC to DC for charging your EV is losing 16% of that power, when a low power DC charge directly to the EV keeps that loss to simple line length.
@andrewt9204
@andrewt9204 7 ай бұрын
You can build your own LFP batteries for a 1/4 of the price. If you don't want to build, 5kWh server rack batteries are about double the $/kWh at ~$1300. Which is still about 1/2 cost over tesla. Their system is very nice, but it is pricey!
@tumbleweed1976
@tumbleweed1976 7 ай бұрын
Upfront costs mean DIY the way to go.
@HomesteadEngineering
@HomesteadEngineering 7 ай бұрын
Just for reference, I am doing this same kind of thing with a DIY system. Its definitely not the integrated (Apple) experience but it does basically the same thing. Here are the cost and specs: 13,000 Watts solar 9,000 Watts inverter 30kWh LiFePO4 Battery bank $26,000 7+ years ago probably around $14,000 today
@Sqeptick
@Sqeptick 7 ай бұрын
With regard to his panels pulling in more energy than their rating...that can happen on full sun, cool/cold days. The panel ratings are based on performance at certain conditions, including a certain temperature. Solar panels do better when they're cool though, so that can lead to what you were seeing, provided the inverters have the extra capacity to handle it.
@michaelyoshida7614
@michaelyoshida7614 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I would love a channel for just this type of information. I already have a similar set up with a 7.2kW panel system, Tesla Powerwall 2.0 and Enphase inverter. I got the whole system almost 4 years ago to support my hundreds of gallons of tropical fish tanks in the house (12 tanks x 60 to 150 gallon each) in case of power outages. Like Rob, I have only had to use the back up part about 4 times over the years. The Powerwall is set to go down to 20% each day so I typically get 100% charge by noon each day, feed the grid until sunset, then use the powerwall for the rest of the night to power the house. I generally produce more power per year than I use, so I just have a PG&E connection fee each month and still get a check back from the utility company each year. I just purchased a Lucid Air last month. This being my first EV, I am trying to determine the best charging practice with this new variable. Currently, when I need to charge the Lucid, I do so from 11:00am to around 4:00pm while there is excess solar generation but I still have to take about 1.4kW from the grid when I charge. I only have to charge about once every week, so I do it over two afternoons. A channel like this may help me with various strategies on how to best be off the grid.
@JH-uu7jl
@JH-uu7jl 6 ай бұрын
Dropping in to say I enjoy your other videos too but this subject is usually more interesting to me. I can't afford a $90k EV, but solar can actually pay for itself over time so it's something more likely to be in my future. Your friend was very gracious to allow the access and to answer questions at the end. Sweet guy, and a good look for the solar/EV community to have people like him evangelizing!
@Plexipal
@Plexipal 7 ай бұрын
You can force the powerwalls to charge by moving the slider then just before charging completes go into the utility rate plan and manually adjust export price and force grid export. Do this all day every day and make bank. Our electricity bill last month in UK was -£40.
@Fous1978
@Fous1978 7 ай бұрын
It is like having your own gas station with your own oil grid and your own oil refinery at home. Whoever can afford it , definitely worth it!!
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 7 ай бұрын
wrong!!! its not even a comparison! oil is refined to make literally millions of byproducts from car tires to plastics for cable insulation, fuel for mining, construction, agriculture, transport... even launching rockets for internet, asphalt roads, aviation and tousands of other applications.
@Dactylonian
@Dactylonian 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Kyle, yes! Electric mobility has a lifecycle, and for the consumer it begins and ends at the home. Simply plugging in is super basic. I would love to have trustworthy educational information on integrated home power. To date, my experience is money-grubbing 3rd parties who do not explain the engineering and numbers behind installation options.
@benssolarandbattery
@benssolarandbattery 7 ай бұрын
Welcome to my world! You should come up to VT sometime, we're in the middle of building an entire neighborhood with solar and Powerwalls!
@dougchatch
@dougchatch 7 ай бұрын
Would be fascinated seeing the story on that.
@NHRunDad
@NHRunDad 7 ай бұрын
Is this part of a GMP project? I’m impressed with how much they have pushed things like micro grids and overall grid resilience. Other utilities (and state governments) should be paying attention. I wish NH was as far along as you guys are!
@coorbin
@coorbin 7 ай бұрын
We have a Tesla Solar Roof and Powerwalls. I also have a BMW i3 REx. On a sunny mid-March day when we don't drive a vehicle at all, the solar offsets about 55% of our energy usage. Got it right after they built their solar tile plant in NY and got NY-made tiles. So far in March '24, solar only accounts for 28% of our energy. In February it was 21%. Only 12% in January. 11% in December 23. It was 26% in August '23, but the absolute amount of solar generation was much higher due to it being summer. But the A/C was also running high so it drew a lot of electricity from both the solar and the grid. Our best month recently was May '23, which was 38% solar. Overall, our solar does offset some of our energy usage, but it really leaves a lot to be desired. We're nowhere close to being self-powered, even when we aren't driving. And if we ARE driving the i3, and charging it at home, that pulls down our solar offset significantly. BTW, the 5 minute outages every month or so are standard. It's technically just a really quick light flicker, as either the inverter or the grid performs some kind of self-test, and runs off of the powerwall for 5 minutes. If you connect directly to the grid you wouldn't even notice those as outages at all. I would recommend Powerwall to anyone - it is a good system - but I would not recommend solar roof. Solar panels will produce more energy per unit area, so just get those. Also, using a third-party EV with the Tesla system doesn't give us any kind of EV integration with the Tesla app. It's very much a walled garden, leaving our EVSE as just a generic load (but we can obviously see in the Tesla app graphs when the EVSE charges, as it forms the single biggest load spike on our usage graphs). One thing to keep in mind: the guy in this video has a much bigger house than me. Assuming that your solar setup is giving you slightly more energy than you consume per unit area of panels or solar roof, then it stands to reason that the bigger your house, the higher % of your energy budget is going to be offset by solar. Therefore with a small house, you can expect a relatively small impact.
@babongo
@babongo 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the real-world results that you shared. I am curious, what is the rated output capacity of your solar roof?
@jackylsmith8138
@jackylsmith8138 7 ай бұрын
Being in the Northeast on an average day we only get 6 hours of sun, when you factor in clouds, rain, snow, fog etc. if you lived in Arizona where they average over 10 hours of sun per day. They average way more sun per day and solar makes more electricity and more sense
@NHRunDad
@NHRunDad 7 ай бұрын
@@jackylsmith8138I’m in NH and solar makes total sense at my house. We have 2 EV’s and almost all electric everything. 5 people in the house, a pool, etc. I don’t pay a bill. Ever. With the high utility rates in the northeast Solar makes up for any production losses due to geography. Also, our colder temps are more conducive to high yields. May is the best month for most of us in New England!
@caseyat88
@caseyat88 7 ай бұрын
I have a 16 kW pv system and 3 powerwalls I ordered from Tesla Jan 2021. 1 year later they were installed. I got them for self-reliance, but benefit from cost and environmental reasons too. Our peak kWs is 13, since our home is a smaller 2 story, with a multi angle roof. I have panels facing all directions. From Sunset to sunrise I'm getting power. Minimum sunny day is 40 kWhs in December, Max is 106 kWhs in May. Super rainy days still produce 5kWhs. I sized it to be 80% offset, but adding 2 evs, and my wife started a cottage kitchen bakery from our home, it dropped to 66% offset. We moved our pool pump to overnight, using any excess battery soc, down to 20-40%, then it uses grid power at 6c/kWh. I charge my EV for free at work from solar, 80% of my miles. I can charge it from home from excess solar as well, or worst case from the grid at 6c/kWh. Our peak costs are 10c/kWh in winter 5-9 am and pm, and 24c/kWh in summer 2-8 pm. The batterys keep us from using the grid during those times. So the other 33% of our total home power use is super off peak at 6c/kWh between 11 pm - 5 am. My power walls are outside, on the NE wall, shaded by trees and the house. They get
@JonathanDrake
@JonathanDrake 7 ай бұрын
I think this will be the biggest channel of them all. Home electric storage is a much bigger opportunity as it is just getting started and so much bad info from people trying to sell stuff as opposed to a neutral party helping to disseminate the info.
@ThEvltwn
@ThEvltwn 7 ай бұрын
Rob is my hero - awesome setup albeit expensive, definitely GOALS
@easternpa2
@easternpa2 Ай бұрын
Very cool run through. I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum. I live in a condo so I can't charge at home! I do have the occasional power outage that lasts a day or two in the dead of winter, though. I would definitely trust your channel to help me learn about options for "whole condo" battery backups and new upcoming options like the meter tap from ConnectDER. Great job.
@PeteLenz
@PeteLenz 7 ай бұрын
Great great info! Yes, we need more of this.
@davetibbals5872
@davetibbals5872 6 ай бұрын
That was indeed the inverter you identified on the side of the house. There is no reason not to charge in off peak hours when you are on a net metering system. Love the free power on my system, for the house and the car. So far, we are in the green by a long way with no power bill, just a monthly connection fee.
@yakimavalleycab
@yakimavalleycab 7 ай бұрын
Let me say great video, I love the fact that it’s a great way to draw energy and have a peace of mind, and an energy channel would be nice. Thanks for the education
@PatrickdaStarr
@PatrickdaStarr 7 ай бұрын
Would love an energy channel. Another good channel for home charging and power banks is Solar Surge.
@coredumperror
@coredumperror 7 ай бұрын
I would LOVE an Out of Spec Energy channel!
@rmkep
@rmkep 7 ай бұрын
Hope you continue in this vein Kyle. I have that same 12.24KW solar/powerwall system. My PW's are on a sheltered outside wall and being in No CAL there are no issues with extreme heat or cold. I have a single Tesla Wall Connector to charge our Model X & 3 that is integrated with the Solar Home system and viewable on the Tesla App. It works beautifully and we do 80% of our BEV charging using self generated power. It was a stormy winter and we had several outages the longest being 18 hours. The system fully powered the house and the Powerwalls were still above 50% when the power came back on. We did not charge the cars during the outages but with short duration outages even that would not be a problem. Tesla provided 10 year .99% financing on the system and the payments are very close to my old average electric bill. That is a nice way to pay for Solar and it is a great feeling to be non-dependant on the grid. Next year we will be all electric in the home with conversion of the HVAC and water heater. With only a little conservation, more solar panels and vehicle to home capabilities in our EV's would get us very close to total energy independence.
@q2w8i9o
@q2w8i9o 7 ай бұрын
I installed a 10 kw solar system (diy) + 40 kw battery storage (rack system) + 240 volt with a max of 12kw/h for our hvac system and our both Tesla. We love it. In winter we use mostly the grid and summer mostly our solar system. Wanted initially all Tesla system but the no availability and no diy system, I decided to do it diy. No regret and very useful during ice rain or other power outage.
@FullSimDriving
@FullSimDriving 7 ай бұрын
Yes I saved 30% with non-Tesla house battery, but I have to manage "drive on sunshine" manually, integration is a bigger deal than I thought. Well done Kyle, love this content, hope you will attract non-green audience too
@digitalawareness4282
@digitalawareness4282 7 ай бұрын
Same system here and 3 years in and it works amazing…Tesla doesn’t get enough credit!
@gerharddohne2518
@gerharddohne2518 7 ай бұрын
Great video - We just got almost exactly the same setup (8.1KW system with 2 power walls all Tesla $37K total cost - 30% Federal Government Incentive). Most of our stuff is mounted on the south-facing side of the house, outside, directly next to the main panel. While you can't really justify the system from a cost-savings perspective (at $150/month it would take 250+ months (21+ years) to amortize, people spend money on standby backup generators (like Generac), which cost between 5K for a partial backup and 20K for a whole house backup + installation cost. If you consider that, it does make fiscal sense. Add to that the 30% Federal Government incentive (which applies to the entire project (including power walls)), and it is a no-brainer. +++ on an energy channel - it would be a neat way to bring the entire "solar-electrical revolution" together.
@blanketwodahs6741
@blanketwodahs6741 7 ай бұрын
The integration for excess solar Tesla charging coordinates with teh car to keep adjusting requested amps based on the current being produced from the solar. which is really cool.
@JohnStraussmusic
@JohnStraussmusic 4 ай бұрын
yes I would be interested
@TheWellingtonExperience
@TheWellingtonExperience 7 ай бұрын
This is the way to go. We got our 11KW system installed two years ago. It is extremely empowering. When the next generation batteries come out with 80+KWH it will be even better.
@danwarner7594
@danwarner7594 6 ай бұрын
Yes - energy channel please! This was great & would love more on this charging topic. Alternative channels seem offer personal bias. Go Kyle!
@scotttucker2557
@scotttucker2557 7 ай бұрын
Hey Kyle I'm a former solar sales person I would love to help you with the out of spec home energy deal here is the problem with tesla system it's a string together system down to the single inverter witch is not optimal when you have shading it drags down the other pannels to the lowest output pa el because it's all sequential set up where a hybrid system is simular but it skips the shaded pannel but this micro inverter system makes it optimal because each pannel has its own inverter but tend to go down more witch leads to more repairs but when it comes to battery storage there's only 2 people should consider that's tesla & franklin kw (witch uses lifpo battery's) and you can do up to 15batteries to go off grid completely I also recommend spaan smart pannel that let's you control every outlet ir connection in the home and also going to electric tankless water heaters and for hvac uses heat pumps and washer and dryers go to GE OR LG washer dryer combo that uses heat pumps and for wither month go with ridgeblade to couple with solar
@kapanda1142
@kapanda1142 7 ай бұрын
Out of Spec Energy, Definitely, You Nailed it Again Kyle
@MosquitoMade
@MosquitoMade 7 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting. The way I look at the net metering thing, it may not be making HIM more green/as green as he could be, but it's helping OTHERS be more green, so it's still a net positive over all
@mnorma12
@mnorma12 7 ай бұрын
Yes please! I would love to see an energy channel! Panel warrantees are based on maintaining 80 percent of the label power so many manufacturer will sandbag the rating to ensure they achieve it long term. However, installers will usually put in an inverter that is less than the systems rated power to reduce clipping at low production times (morning/evening). Not sure what’s going on here.
@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC
@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC 7 ай бұрын
As a home owner with solar and a whole house battery AND two Teslas yes I would like to see you guys expand another channel to include energy. :-) BTW we paid for a 6.5 system and we produce 6.5 max under ideal sun. Typically closer to 5.6. Interesting your friends system is making more than rated. The power company here in So Cal would consider you a power generating station if you exceed the “approved” rate. I always use my battery to power the house 24/7. That means we take the battery down to 35% unless I charge a car. To be honest with only one battery I have found in the winter with limited sun you better off putting that excess solar into the grid and taking it back out of the grid after midnight. I try to balance everything so I bank a little power every day or at least break even while keeping both cars charged and the house running off the battery at night. Does that make sense?
@jaymbhalodia
@jaymbhalodia 6 ай бұрын
1) wire outside home is better in case of fire n debug 2) charging from battery is better because u do not pay energy distribution cost. Basically there is lot of transmission loss from the grid. I would suggest drain battery to 10-20% at night to charge and same way use battery to power up home during peak hours. Export max electricity during peak. Rest up charge battery or car
@efkrufka
@efkrufka 7 ай бұрын
Yes to a home Solar PV, Battery, V2H focused channel. I have the Enphase version of what's in this video, waiting for Enphase bi-directional charger and Rivian to support V2H.
@sylvainjamais904
@sylvainjamais904 7 ай бұрын
Nice to see an tightly integrated system. I have a disparate one where nothing talks to nothing and it is a bit of a faff, but that's what you get when you go incremental (and don't want to pay Tesla prices on the energy stuff).
@Shiftheads
@Shiftheads 7 ай бұрын
I live somewhere we constantly lose power and just that makes me want to do solar and a powerwall. Way less maintenance then getting a natural gas or propane generator too.
@That-Guy_
@That-Guy_ 7 ай бұрын
I have almost the same setup as the kiddo and it got me through the Texas winter blackout.
@markmuir7338
@markmuir7338 7 ай бұрын
I have a 7kW solar system (~40kWh per day) and two Powerwalls, with 2 EVs charging from it (a Tesla Model S and a Rivian R1T). I had to write my own software to make it possible - mixing a 2016 Tesla wall charger and an OpenEVSE. But it works great, and I’m in the process of adding automation based on weather forecasts - to prioritize charging the Powerwall from the grid at night if there’s not going to be much sun the next day.
@thk4711
@thk4711 7 ай бұрын
For about a year my solar system has been online and I do not regret having done that for a minute. I have a similar setup. 12 kW peak power and 28kWh of energy storage and I am also charging my EV. I am not familiar with the current prices in the US but $40 000 seems a little bit expensive to me. My system is based on Victron components and I spent about 24000€ for that.
@keithcomfort1625
@keithcomfort1625 7 ай бұрын
Yes. Yes. Yes. An alternative energy channel would be wonderful. On some days in Texas, alternative energy provides 90% of the energy to the Texas grid.
@jessesea77
@jessesea77 7 ай бұрын
Anything y’all would do I would watch. The way you’re able to explain information and make it understandable is amazing. An energy channel would be amazing!
@noahkilleen239
@noahkilleen239 7 ай бұрын
Two year Tesla Solar/powerwall user here. We got it after the fires and power outages in northern California. 65% reserve is insane, 50% slightly less so. Even with net metering you don't get the equivalent back when selling to the grid. He should lower the reserve to 20% unless there's a storm or high winds.
@mondogomez5
@mondogomez5 7 ай бұрын
I have one Tesla vehicle. Tesla model y performance. I have 60 panels on my roof and I went with enphase. I will be doing the power wall also with the same company.
@earthwizz
@earthwizz 7 ай бұрын
We're in the middle of the transport and energy transition. You do a great job of covering the transport element and it makes sense for you guys to cover all of it. Have fun, there's loads of content.
@zmarko
@zmarko 7 ай бұрын
I'm building my solar system as we speak in Southern Colorado. My initial setup is 8kw of panels, ~15 kwh of battery, and an 18k PV/12k inverter. I will double my battery bank probably at the end of summer 2024, and also probably add another 4kw of panels for a total of 12k worth of panels.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 3 ай бұрын
I would stick with Tesla for the batteries but feel free to use any tier one panels on your system. The PW3 features an inbuilt and powerful inverter so you save yourself some money there. The new meter caller instead of the gateway is great as well. Finally, put in as many solar panels as you can. No one ever said after the installation "Gee, I wish I'd installed less solar!" 😅
@jjamespacbell
@jjamespacbell 7 ай бұрын
I just went with a similar system and I also went completely with Tesla 7.25 kW of Solar and 2 PowerWall 3s to complement my Model Y (CyberBeast on Order) System Ordered in Nov 2023 Final Install Feb 2024, stilll waiting for Utility approval to export. One of the big considerations to me was if something goes wrong who do I call, one throat to choke as they say. FYI System also cost $39K in Southern California. My utility also offers NEM 2.0 Fed incentive is 30% rebate
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 3 ай бұрын
Even 50% is crazy. You should be allowing your ESS to get down to 20% if necessary and as you said you can always change that if there's going to be an outage possibility. And even at 20% you would still have roughly 5kWh to run essentials like refrigerators, lights, internet etc. for about 10 hours (most homes would have a baseload around 500W).
@allenkackman4657
@allenkackman4657 2 ай бұрын
I have a 15MW solar system Washington State with 1 to 1 net metering that banks and resets in March every year. (35) 400watt Panasonic panels with Enphase micro-inverters and a Powerwall 2 for backup and so I can utilize my solar production during outages. 1 to 1 net metering is the best! I over-produced 50KW the first year and had to give some power back, Then last year I had to buy $20 worth of power in January and $10.00 worth in February, so our system is pretty much a 100% offset. We sort of use the grid as our battery to power the house at night. Since the power company credits me for every KW I generate I see no reason to cycle my Powerwall nightly. Most of the power out here in Eastern Washington is renewable hydro that I am fine with using, so I don't have the "dirty" power issue that your friend in NY does. I don't even have the car set to charge on sunshine. We just charge the car at night and power the neighbors houses on sunshine with our excess during the day. I kind of like the fact that even if my neighbors don't like the idea of "green" energy they are using it during the day when I make it and send excess to the grid. Loved the video!
@thomasjacques5286
@thomasjacques5286 4 ай бұрын
We are getting ready to have 2 PW3s installed. Looking forward to having this freedom. I have a 12.5 PV system (oversized) and have NEM 2.0. After all incentives, my system will cost about $19K.
@marklefler4007
@marklefler4007 5 ай бұрын
Solar panales are rated at 25 degC. On a super cold day they could produce more than that since they get more efficent below 25 deg C, but 15 kW is not possible on a 10 kW system. SOlar panels normally heat up in the sun and are usually hotter than 25 degC, plus losses in sun angle, inverter, etc normally cut power by 20% or so. Likely a bug in the reporting, or some miswired current transformers.
@JakePusateri
@JakePusateri 7 ай бұрын
I designed my own system, 14.5kW DC, 14kWh battery for $15k in materials (roughly $5k panels, $5k battery, $5k inverter) , $15k more in labor and balance of system like wires and racking. After the tax credit, that's like $22k. Solar panels themselves are the cheapest part these days, down to $0.23/W. 8:40 - That's the Tesla Gateway, and it's the brain. It's there to be a Microgrid Interconnect Device (MID) and disconnect your house from the grid so you don't backfeed power and energize a downed power line while it's being worked on. It can also monitor power going in and out. The power will flow grid -> Gateway -> Main Panel. The Powerwalls / Inverters will also connect to it. 11:28 - As others have said, a 10 kW DC system producing 12.4kW is a software display bug. The two inverters are only rated for 5kW continuous each, so aren't capable of inverting the 5kW home usage plus the 7.4kW it claims is being exported to the grid. 20:12 - You can see the grid is so high because that's the car charging at the full 48A. It's really the only thing that can run at that high of power for so long. If he moves that charging to solar, that will go away too.
@NormalShock
@NormalShock 7 ай бұрын
Kyle, I was surprised to hear you hadn’t dived into this energy cycle before, specifically because of how you’ve spoken in the past about grid powered, solar enhanced Megapack charging stations and similar. The home scenario is exactly the same just scaled down to the single family home level; solar PV system, Powerwall (or similar) and grid tied.
@kylewatson5133
@kylewatson5133 7 ай бұрын
I highly recommend something similar to a keshee battey kit (13.4 kwh) for $2500 over the powerwall. I got those and they are excellent.
@robertpawley5715
@robertpawley5715 7 ай бұрын
The power is limited by panels, and further limited by inverter. Solar is very expensive in US compared to Australia as you have tariffs on cheap Chinese panels that work well. The panels are on the south side as that’s where the sun is, especially in winter. Mine face north as I am in Australia. East and west is okay however facing away from sun is not.
@CBR2200
@CBR2200 7 ай бұрын
Looks like a great system. The price is a head scratcher. I priced adding Powerwalls to my solar system and it was cost prohibitive at more than $30k added to my solar system cost.
@dzsink
@dzsink 7 ай бұрын
Great video. Definitely should do an Energy channel!!! Th reason we didn't go with the Tesla Solar panels because they switched to one main inverter. We went with Tesla PW x3 and SunPower Equinox E20 327W system - 54 panels, with micro inverter on each panel. Our place have lost of shade. Also SunPower provide an architect signed solar generation plan. Planned generation was 11,400 kwh, actual 10.9 in 2022 and 11.2 in 2023. With these panels our ROI is about 17 years.
@yt551217
@yt551217 7 ай бұрын
Have invested in several go green systems at my home in Seattle. On a scale of 1-10 here’s how I rate them Solar Panels 15 KW system - Rate 10. Silfab with Enphase microinverters; Very happy. Advise getting large ststem to take care of your possible future electricity needs (I.e. EV, heat pump, electric range, etc.). Adding later is possible but you have to go through the permit process again and might not get as favorable a net metering contract in future. I didn’t get battery storage because I have a good net metering deal and I think our cars (like F150 ) will act as batteries in future though that requires about $5k of equipment too. Hyundai Ioniq5- I rate 9.5 out of 10. Downgrade slightly because road trips slight anxiety. My son has Tesla Y which has had price decrease to level where I’d probably choose that and enjoy the Supercharger network for road trips (though all cars likely get to use it soon). Home EV level 2 charger. Rate 9.5 because I wish wasn’t so expensive for electrical work. If you have a 240 in your garage, I’d start just using that if your car comes with a 240 home charger (Tesla does, Hyundai doesn’t). Mitsubishi Heat Pump (without heat strips or gas furnace). Rate 9.5. I downgrade a little as they are expensive and I don’t think last quite as long as a high efficiency gas furnace. But I am able to make enough electricity with solar panels so feel good about environmental efforts. Thanks for your interesting channel Kyle, I’ve learned a lot.
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 7 ай бұрын
I have an Enphase Micro-inverter setup on 2 houses. First is 4.5kW Solar running for 11.5years and produced 65MWh, no storage. Second is 12kW solar and 20kWh storage running for just 7 months and produced 10.4MWh. I have a Chargepoint Home Flex hardwired and 48 amp capable so the Taycan can get 11kW.
@t.phantom9381
@t.phantom9381 6 ай бұрын
Also - you can drain a lot deeper at night, if you need more energy next day, typically the sun is shining anyways and will charge your PWs
@bertwright1790
@bertwright1790 7 ай бұрын
I have contracted for a dual Powerwall 3s with 18 panels. The onsite survey was completed last week and we are waiting for the engineers to draw up plans and will modify from there. Lots of learning in the next few months. Hopefully you’ll be a great resource or I can be a resource to you. Have a Model Y today and have a deposit on a Cybertruck, so every thing must be designed with that in mind.
@JOSEPHATJOSEPH-jb2rr
@JOSEPHATJOSEPH-jb2rr 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Tesla for good product
@That-Guy_
@That-Guy_ 7 ай бұрын
That's almost exactly what I have. 11.34kw solar panels and 2 powerwalls plus a Model 3 rwd and a Model Y LR. I have the free nights plan with my power company so I charge for free at night.
@jackcoats4146
@jackcoats4146 7 ай бұрын
We just installed 3 Powerwalls and about 10KW of solar on our fence and some ground mount. We have a Model Y that is set to charge from soar. Our home (near Nashville TN) is all electric, heat pump hot water, heat pump HVAC, condensing washer/dryer, with a Model Y and a Smart For Two ED (yes, all electric), and even a electric lawn mower. BTW We set our 'reserve' to 30%, and have no net metering. Our cost of electricity is low (think 11 to 14cents/kwh depending on how you want to calculate it). We are not considering the ROI, since we did some things that make no financial sense, but we wanted anyway. We are using grid tie inverters, that will work with the powerwalls if the grid is down. (Inverters are APSystem Solar DS3-S) and our panels are oversized at 370W bifacials).
@wickedmessenger1
@wickedmessenger1 2 ай бұрын
I'm buying a completely off-grid solar system solely to charge my EV. This will be at my cabin. No grid power is available there, or more correctly, when I inquired about getting connected to the grid the utility company said it would cost $100,000. It's going to be a carport I can park under with the panels above and the equipment in a shed adjacent to or integral to the carport. I haven't seen a lot of setups like this on KZbin so I don't have much to go on as far as what other people have done. I would be very interested in your new energy channel.
@thereplacementfordisplacement
@thereplacementfordisplacement 5 ай бұрын
Looking at replacing my 18 year old PV system since hail destroyed my roof but solar ok but panels today are twice the wattage and not a lot larger. With a mature neighborhood the large tree shadowing was hurting production of my string inverter setup. Weird thing is panels are 10x cheaper but everything else hasn't scaled down, they're actually more expensive.
@thereplacementfordisplacement
@thereplacementfordisplacement 2 ай бұрын
Looked into doing v2h using a Leaf for it's v2h capability rather than it's transportation capabilities. Unfortunately my utility only authorizes Tesla's system to be connected to the grid and at this moment Enphase hasn't released their v2h charger capability. I know it isn't ideal going back and forth between DC and AC a few times but it isn't that bad and beats having tiny Tesla Powerwall batteries on precious garage wall space. In a bad power outage maybe you could drive Leaf to a charging station nearby and bring it home to power your home if PV failed for some strange reason. That was strange that the system installers didn't sit down with these folks and try to do this obvious predictable optimization of their system.
@ronhall3269
@ronhall3269 7 ай бұрын
I also think the best part of having solar on houses would be too grid proof the grid. So that if solar and wind failed like it did in Texas a year or two ago, and that winter, then the houses could be a virtual grid. It would also prevent terrorist attacks, causing a major issue because of one point of attack and risk and vulnerability. I truly believe the green stuff is overrated, however, I like to assess everything for its benefits and or negatives.
@shannonvisser8555
@shannonvisser8555 7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Appreciate all the information you share with us. Very helpful. Thanks for all your hard work and long hours.
@rcguymike
@rcguymike 6 ай бұрын
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it yet but recently there was a bug in the Tesla app that doubled energy reporting, Marques Brown I think might have been the first person to report it and have a Tesla engineer troubleshoot and fix the issue. Not sure if it's been fully rolled out yet, but that's how the system is get way above STC rated power generation.
@fasteddie31003
@fasteddie31003 7 ай бұрын
I have the same excess power production bug on my system. I've had them come by and try to fix it. I gave up and the instant power rating is wrong, but the historical is correct.
@mmintegratyper78
@mmintegratyper78 7 ай бұрын
his 2 inverters are 7.6kw each. Great video!! I have a 6kw system with 2 power wall 2's installed last March.
@LordStevie
@LordStevie 7 ай бұрын
The new Powerwall 3 are 13.5 kW each!
@B540m3p
@B540m3p Ай бұрын
For what it’s worth, cost has gone down quite a bit recently. I just got a 10.125kW system with 3x Powerwall 3’s for a total of 40.5kW. It cost the same as the one mentioned in this video. Being in PG&E territory, it was a no brainer.
@Tesla_Coffee_Tech
@Tesla_Coffee_Tech 7 ай бұрын
Hey Kyle, would you please tell me what all the out of spec channels are? KZbin seems to have removed the ability to see what all the channels were. Thanks.
@scottbreseke716
@scottbreseke716 7 ай бұрын
I can see the names of all the channels after I click on this channel name, and then click the thing near the top that says outofspecstudios.
@Tesla_Coffee_Tech
@Tesla_Coffee_Tech 7 ай бұрын
@@scottbreseke716 hey, thanks. That worked!!!
@DaveWarnedYou
@DaveWarnedYou 7 ай бұрын
Very cool video! I'm in NY as well and have 8kw of solar on my roof but it's Grid-tied, so no battery storage yet. Waiting for prices to come down and need a fully self-driving Tesla before I can even think about adding an EV. ;)
@newporttom
@newporttom 7 ай бұрын
I was just thinking "Kyle doesn't have enough to do. He needs another channel"
@atanasdimitrov4081
@atanasdimitrov4081 7 ай бұрын
Power wall are actually the cheapest solution(other guys were more expensive). I needed 3 power walls, 2 years ago local installer wanted $15k for each, yaiks . we have net metering so power walls were only for back up, decided to save $45k. Bought F150 lightening with 98kWh battery (6-7 power walls) and have set up to back up the house with the F150 and have perfect truck.
@ianphilpott5164
@ianphilpott5164 7 ай бұрын
Kyle. I’m uk based and have a Givenergy system of 6.2kw solar, 2x9.5kw batteries and givenergy car charger. Not as integrated as Tesla but pretty good. Happy to chat about it
@JeffMcJunkin
@JeffMcJunkin 7 ай бұрын
So cool to see the integrations between products!
@KyleConner
@KyleConner 7 ай бұрын
Tesla always nails that!
@bryanfrey1671
@bryanfrey1671 6 ай бұрын
I have a Generac PWRCell system with Sense energy monitor. I charge our 2 Tesla’s from extra solar using TesSense.
Tesla Solar Roof Review: Was it Worth It?
30:27
Marques Brownlee
Рет қаралды 13 МЛН
小蚂蚁会选到什么呢!#火影忍者 #佐助 #家庭
00:47
火影忍者一家
Рет қаралды 127 МЛН
Каха и лужа  #непосредственнокаха
00:15
Family Love #funny #sigma
00:16
CRAZY GREAPA
Рет қаралды 20 МЛН
ROSÉ & Bruno Mars - APT. (Official Music Video)
02:54
ROSÉ
Рет қаралды 222 МЛН
Inside Tesla Powerwall 3
16:20
SolHome
Рет қаралды 77 М.
Is Solar worth it? My Experience 2 Years Later
11:57
Smart Home Solver
Рет қаралды 141 М.
Mechanical Batteries: The Future of Energy Storage? | FD Engineering
51:34
Free Documentary - Engineering
Рет қаралды 769 М.
Installing Our New DC Fast Charger! XCharge NZS 200kWh Battery Integrated Unit
1:02:59
Tesla Solar Roof - A Builders Perspective
18:19
Matt Risinger
Рет қаралды 759 М.
EV Road Trips Suck Now (Except in a Tesla)
35:40
Aging Wheels
Рет қаралды 1,5 МЛН
4 Years with Tesla Solar Roof
38:13
Good Faith Energy
Рет қаралды 7 М.
小蚂蚁会选到什么呢!#火影忍者 #佐助 #家庭
00:47
火影忍者一家
Рет қаралды 127 МЛН