This American Negro | Kevin Samuels Lied To Black Men | @MarquiseDavon

[@patricemoss105]

We need more of this and less of that. Thanks. For the honest introspection. I am going to have my son listen.

[@marquisedavonproductions]

Whew! That means a lot that you want your son to listen. Thank youuuuuuu.

[@dkt4377]

You would be better off advising your son to read Dr. Jordan Peterson's books and listen to Kevin Samuels KZbin videos.

[@m.valentino313]

26 minutes and 4 seconds of incredible heat and healing. In my adulthood and becoming more sure of myself I needed to hear this conversation in depth! So much to take away with. 🔥

[@akhozilnkangana4772]

Damn! You managed to articulate what I've been trying to say in such a beautiful way. Such emotional intelligence and intelligence in general from you... viewing all the way from South Africa- great content bro! Really worth an ear from other black men.

[@marquisedavonproductions]

I appreciate that so much! It's hella dope that I'm even reaching over there. I hope other Black men get to see it and engage with it in a way that's healthy.

[@ITech2005]

One fundamental mistake that critics always make, is not realizing that people aren’t “looking up” to KS or repeating after him. KS was simply saying what BM had ALREADY been saying. He even said it himself that everything he talked about he heard in barber shops, lockers rooms and from other men since the time he was a kid.

[@thegoddessinnercircle]

Again, what he was saying was not held under any critical analysis, but off of emotion. Which means that if you were to truly analyze his speech you would have found many fallacies, so the fact that black men's echo chambers failed at seeing how patriarchy works against you is still lost on you.

[@ITech2005]

@@thegoddessinnercircle You should reread my post and think about what i said. Again, KS was just relaying what he heard from BM his entire life. From barber shops to his wealthy clients. Noones "repeating" or echoing him. And he spoke based on facts and statistics that are readily available.

[@thegoddessinnercircle]

@@ITech2005 This Nigga did not speak facts. He demonized men and women. He lied to you men. Yoi can't even see that. This is how lost you men are.

[@ITech2005]

@@thegoddessinnercircle There’s a difference between demonize and criticize. And for you to say he lied to men again shows that you still don’t understand what’s going on. Again, he was repeating what men ALREADY thought and felt about modern women and relationships. For example, if your favorite color is blue, and I tell the world that you like blue, am I lying to everyone? Am I starting a color war? Am I teaching you to like that color? No right? I’m just relaying to everyone else what you’ve already told me in private. Your issue is that you think KS was some kind of leader or influencer, but that’s only the case to ppl that didn’t understand the male perspective. To them he was a teacher. But to the rest of us he was more of spokesperson. You probably still won’t get it though because you’re in your feelings.

[@dkt4377]

@@ITech2005 bruh... I was about to respond to her comment. But you so thoroughly articulated your retort, there's no need for me to respond. Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.

[@JustusJermaine]

I’m here for this

[@trinibwoy27]

My Bro Marquise ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💯💯💯💯

[@marquisedavonproductions]

My guyyyy! I appreciate you holding it down! Lemme know your thoughts on the video!

[@JaySomething8]

Thanks for sharing your experience! ❤️ and giving us more insight as always.

[@dkt4377]

Kevin Samuels spoke hard truths in blunt ways. I disagreed with his delivery, but he served truth, piping hot. Telling blk men to spend their twenties and early thirties by working 60+ hours per week in order to improve/succeed, is exactly what we needed to hear.

[@bellabello1126]

And as per usual you were happy to overlook the misogyny

[@dkt4377]

@@bellabello1126 Misogyny implies he hated women. That was not the case.

[@bellabello1126]

@@dkt4377 I would disagree. Racism doesn’t always look like blatant hatred either

[@dkt4377]

@@bellabello1126 True, any type of hate can be covert or subtle but when Kevin Samuels spoke harshly to and about men, particularly blk men, regarding how they are under performing or making poor life choices was it considered misandry. Why is it never misandry when he was tough on men? No one accused him of spewing hate against men.

[@bellabello1126]

@@dkt4377 BM were told their value was increased through accomplishments. Women were told is was based on youth. Not the same thing at all

[@chriswilliams2035]

Ive watched a fair amount of KS content before he passed. I wanna say i watched about 20 of his vids from start to finish during the pandemic. Im the first to say I don't agree with every message that he pushes forth. However i think his tone, and "breaking people down" is necessary because of the gray area brought up in the vid. When you have a nebulous concept of the definition of a word (i.e. everyone having thier own truth) theres no universal or prototypical blueprint to follow in order to replicate success- whatever that may be. So the breaking down part IMO is necessary to reshape a person who maybe hasn't grown in a way thats helpful to their families and communities around them.

[@marquisedavonproductions]

This is an argument that I’ve heard a lot. I’m not always sure if this is the best way when there’s not a healthy rebuilding that can occur. He didn’t actually restore on the backend, so the breakdown doesn’t help. A lot of men can’t do that part on their own and need their community to do so.

[@chriswilliams2035]

@@marquisedavonproductions i wouldn't be quick to say that people weren't helped on the back end. Ive seen comments on other content creators channels leave messages about how he helped them get back on track, and even some that said how they were close to ending themselves. Im not saying that what he does is best for everyone but i do think there's a net positive.

[@marquisedavonproductions]

@@chriswilliams2035 and he would be the one to have to restore on the backend, so if a critique will come, it's usually on the person who said the thing to ensure that there's a follow through. And right! Some people can potentially benefit, but does it always have to be said in a way that makes you feel lesser/harmed. I'm not sure if that's the best way.

[@latasha5119]

@@marquisedavonproductions I wish more people understood this !

[@yaboi-ru4532]

What in the Derrick Jaxn is going on here???

[@dkt4377]

I said the same thing.

[@dkt4377]

9:30 Men experience every emotion that women do, we just process and display them differently than they do. Let's stop acting like overly emotional men is acceptable. There are a hand full of instances in which a man crying in public is acceptable, funerals, weddings (maybe), and/or unexpected deaths. Outside of these situations, men mostly cry in the dark.

[@ashnorton4465]

I agree that men are not typically socially allowed to express most emotions, aside from anger. I find this unacceptable and cruel. Men are people who feel shit just like women. It’s internalized patriarchy that’s preventing all of us from being able to express ourselves as human beings, who regardless of sex, feel all emotions equally intensely as the other, and those in between. It’s unfortunate that our generation, and the generations after, must take on the burden and the risk, to counter these antiquated, unrealistic and harmful societal expectations. But it must be done to prevent further damage to the generations of young boys, (and girls,) to come.

[@dkt4377]

@@ashnorton4465 you hit the nail on the head with your statement. So true!

[@promochannel25]

Heard the intro and immediately subbed.

[@marquisedavonproductions]

lmaoooo! That's the tagline!

[@GreenwoodCotton]

Word salad.

[@dkt4377]

In the blk community, we raise our daughters but coddle our sons. Blk women have and are raising the blk men they are complaining about. Boys require the presence and guidance of their fathers, especially after age 7, but most blk boys don't have positive male role models to pattern after. Kevin was more than a nice suit and some colone/fragrance recommendations.

[@limitlessinfinite2284]

Saying alot of words, some makes sense and some has nothing to do with anything. I'm not KS fan. People needs to have their own sense of success and value, and to work on their own emotional intelligence and maturity, as well as discernment. KS made a lot of sense and brought alot of attention to things that affects us men, modern women, and society on a whole. I don't follow his HVM narrative because it only focuses on material and status, and not spiritual and the intangible qualities that each individual possesses. The problem is, KS is not the issue. Its society and the masses that desires to not feel challenged and discomfort because they want life to be like a fantasy where no consequences or accountability is required, and anyone that goes against reality/life should be cancelled.

[@bronzetogold8940]

So to sum up your video, your basically saying "Kevin Samuels lied to Blk Men because he told them that being things like a 'Protector' and 'Provider' are an important part of Masculinity, but he didn't include Blk Men who live the LGBTQ lifestyle being apart of that definition of Blk Masculinity" Lol. With all due respect brother, nothing you stated in your video disproved anything he said. And I actually took the time to listen to everything you had to say. Nice set up though.

[@marquisedavonproductions]

The lie was his display of what masculinity was his idea of masculinity and the “high value man.” Black men are limited in our emotional capacity and experience, because we’re expected to simply provide and work. We miss out on relationship because our masculinity or value is only tied to economics and status, but we aren’t sure what our worth is, because we’re not emotionally mature enough as a collective.

[@marquisedavonproductions]

Protecting and providing can still be part of that definition, but I think he could have expanded that idea, so it could actually be more gentle towards straight Black men. I appreciate your perspective though. 💪🏾

[@tawchaaboss7387]

You here making up things to get views. You don't even have a 1000 subs. You never speak up when he was alive. Black people again with the same bring down of a next blackmen. The way he talk to people is called effective communication. I think I just teach u something to excel your channel..

[@marquisedavonproductions]

I quite literally teach communication, English, and social emotional learning. And I’m primarily a podcaster, so as a newer channel, it’s still growing. I don’t think his communication is the most effective, but I appreciate your opinion.

[@tawchaaboss7387]

@@marquisedavonproductions bro u lame create your own impact like he did. If you are to pass off today no one other than family or close friends you speak about on youtube

[@marquisedavonproductions]

@@tawchaaboss7387 awww man. That was a bit mean. But I hope that your day gets better.

[@tawchaaboss7387]

@@marquisedavonproductions you are disrespectful to the God father. And it's sad because I met him after he died and I learnt so much and still learning as a young man..

[@marquisedavonproductions]

@@tawchaaboss7387 then I think that that’s where the hurt comes from too. You have a different relationship to him. Especially if you’re calling him the “Godfather.” - however, I think that your development will continue on and find other iterations of yourself in other men.