This Anime Did What Hollywood Couldn't

Netflix's new Terminator Zero anime has no business being as great as it is. After decades of Hollywood fumbling, the studio behind Ghost in the Shell has finally brought the franchise back to form.
Get the uncensored cut of the video on Patreon: / mothersbasement
Subscribe to Mother's Basement for anime and gaming videos every week: www.youtube.co...
Validate me!
Follow me on twitter: / g0ffthew
Also on facebook: / mothersbasementofficial
And check out my Steam Curator page: steamcommunity....
and the new Mother's Basement Subreddit: / mothersbasement
In the depths of his Mother's Basement, Geoff Thew creates videos analyzing the storytelling techniques of anime and video games. He has been named the number one Worst KZbin Anime Reviewer by The Top Tens.

[@mothersbasement]

If you go watch the anime before finishing the video please leave a like on the way out. It really helps!

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Ok Geoff!

[@chrismeandyou]

The problem is that only the first two movies are interesting. I quit the anime after two episodes. The IP is not interesting.

[@moreplz]

i was on the fence but you have convinced me. ill watch the show.

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

ohh woah

[@rokurokubi3273]

Started giving a bit too much away for my tastes so I'm gonna do just that. No shade - you got me to jump on a great looking series that I'd not even considered before. Again.

[@ivanbluecool]

You mean use the source material and take a spin in their own way while still honoring the original story material? Shocking

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

What a plot twist! - Chicken Robot

[@FFKonoko]

That's one of those praises that can subjectively apply to many of the Hollywood movies too, until it doesn't. The problem is that the spins they took were poorly executed. The concept of blurring the line between terminator and cyborg is not a bad concept. The concept of fleshing out the future war aspect is not bad. And yet, terminator salvation did terribly. Taking a spin on time being changed, with kyle meeting a different version of sarah, that could have worked. But it didn't. Taking new spins and trying to respect the source material is not the thing they failed to do. 😅 Different groups will wish they left Sarah and Arnold out of the movies entirely or consider that the closest thing to a saving virtue after all.

[@teneesh3376]

​@@FFKonokoi think you misinterpret what are the new spins. In Zero, it's how they tried to stop skynet and asking the question if mankind should live

[@darknesswithin0]

Don't tell that to Wit studios

[@darknesswithin0]

Asimo robo at 8:23

[@ryanwhaley5041]

I was always sad Sarah Conner Chronicles got cancelled just as it was starting to explore the concept of the endlessly rewritten timeline with Resistance soldiers treating JDay as a literal battleline to push back. Nice to hear that’s getting another shot at giving the franchise a more sustainable conflict.

[@gorequillnachovidal]

that show was awesome and would John fall in love with that hot terminator?

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Not only that, the machines having their own civil war and showing that they are not a unified hive mind.

[@Marcusor]

Sadly this kinda is a copy of tscc and doesn't really do beyond the concept of a second ai. Maybe we will get a second season doing something with it and making the first season worth the watch.

[@FengLengshun]

> litteral battle lines to push back Now that is some bold new dimension to draw your lines in for the lines-on-map fans around

[@KingOfMadCows]

TSSC also did the idea of other AI's being developed. One of the mysteries of the show was the resistance trying to figure out which AI would become Skynet. Skynet was sending back Terminators to develop itself in secret, mirroring the whole plot of Kyle becoming John's father. And there was a faction of rogue Terminators trying to create an AI to counter Skynet, and it was led by a T-1000 that had developed its own consciousness and broke away from Skynet.

[@mightytoast2693]

8:40 "...in ways they'd never treat a human worker" I admire your optimism.

[@antiawarenessawarenessclub]

💀

[@shannonstrobel6727]

Not in the current capitalist hell we live in. The robot is a material investment and therefore valuable. A human is expendable...

[@bunklypeppz]

More like "in ways they wouldn't be able to get away with treating a human worker".

[@ZachX888]

@@bunklypeppz True, but unfortunately they often do get away with it. 😫

[@westrim]

@@shannonstrobel6727 Just curious, which socioeconomic system do you believe treated workers better?

[@neighslayer768]

Yes. One step closer to that mythical Terminator x Ghost in the Shell cross over.

[@falconeshield]

In my restless dreams, I see that movie

[@MaximillianRobesphere]

**O**

[@QuickDeath02]

Wasn't Marcus from T3 basically a Ghost in a Shell? Human Brain and Heart but the body of a terminator?

[@MrJpc1234]

​@QuickDeath02 When they are talking about a "Ghost" it is more of a philosophical idea of a soul and whether a particular being has one

[@zafranorbian757]

@@MrJpc1234 In that way ´Misaki reminds me of Proto or the Tachikoma.

[@christinesinclair6938]

It's almost as if when you give a sci-fi franchise to people who understand sci-fi, you get a good result! Who'd have thunk it!

[@Khotetsu]

@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 What do you mean? This anime is "woke" as hell. Terminator has always been "woke." Skynet has always been the worst aspects of extremist conservative ideology: that one group is better than the rest and that anybody who disagrees should be executed for being subhuman. Next you'll tell me that old school Star Trek - the show about literal space socialism - isn't "woke." The same show that was lambasted when it came out for daring to have a black woman in it.

[@kami_in_the_skye]

Tell me you know nothing about Japan without saying you know nothing about Japan.

[@CombatSportsNerd]

@@kami_in_the_skye you’re not seriously trying to argue that nobody in Japan understands sci-fi are you?

[@revolvingworld2676]

@@kami_in_the_skye Are you really trying to argue the same guys who made Ghost in the Shell dont understand Sci-Fi?

[@crazy13alex]

​@kami_in_the_skye You're talking about the country that made Neon Evangellion and Ghost in the Shell, among many other examples. Where have you been over the past 60 years?

[@The_Tyrell_Corporation]

It sucks that people won't watch this because it's anime. I told my parents who raised me on these movies (went to see Alien R twice with my mom) . and they were both indifferent JUST because it's anime. And when I binged it the morning it came out, and called my mom and told her "Man this is the best terminator stuff since the 2nd one". Her response was "yea, but that's b/c you like anime". This show is instantly essential to the series, it was so good. Props to Skydance and Production IG

[@TundraCrow]

That always does bother me that the stigma of animation is for kids or can't be mature. I blame our American cultural growth that stuff like Disney, Dreamworks, Pixar etc. Built people up to the visual language of animation and bright colours to mean its for young children

[@toddclawson2840]

Do they look down on anime or are they just not interested in it? If it is the latter, I think that is fair. There are just some types of entertainment that people aren't going to enjoy even if it is part of a franchise they like. If it is the former, then yeah that is a shame that people still look down on anime just because it isn't live-action.

[@The_Tyrell_Corporation]

@@toddclawson2840 my dad ain't watching anything animated haha, but my mom got me into anime when I was younger by showing me Vampire Hunter D (the original). but that's only b/c it was about vampires which is her thing. I def don't think she looks down on anime in particular though. They don't watch disney/ other animated stuff anymore either unless it's with one of the grandkids, and we definitely watched pretty much every disney movie together when I was growing up

[@jennym3883]

My parents are like that too. They refuse to watch animated stuff. I on the other hand am probably gonna watch this because it's anime. I have never watched any of the terminator movies and I don't plan to. I know the entire plot of at least the first 2 anyway cause people always talk about it.

[@epb9000]

​@@The_Tyrell_Corporation my parents tend to be the same way. My strat is to watch anyway when they're around and hope they get sucked in

[@jacksonlee1883]

In salvation Skynet decided to make a human more machine. In Zero The Dr. wanted to make a machine more human. I love how the shoes the inverse of that concept

[@ZachX888]

Yeah why did Skynet do that? Was that actually a well thought out concept or no? It's been a while since I saw it.

[@vxicepickxv]

​@ZachX888 the concept is interesting, but the execution is a failure.

[@loginlost_horizon6327]

@@ZachX888 First drafts of Salvation kinda wanted to give us the twist via showing that Skynet is not that much about ultra-murdering humans, rather about saving them in weird way. Supposedly, in the end of Salvation Marcus shold've find a place where cyber-humans like him just... chill. With enhanced bodies that can resist more, and with help of terminators who water their gardens of smtn. Honestly - i'd like if it was a canon, but in the end they decided to do something different.

[@ZachX888]

@@loginlost_horizon6327 Interesting, thanks for the info both of you.

[@molybdaen11]

The fusion of man and machine is the only way out of this never ending time war.

[@everydaydose7779]

Easily the most underrated show this year so far that flew off the radar despite it being one of the most recognizable IP

[@chriscyborg2187]

What does IP means? I am hearing this word alot when it's about any series/ book

[@TonySilverteeth]

@@chriscyborg2187 same as what labels something as a franchise

[@Wezqu]

@@chriscyborg2187 IP = intellectual property. In this case the intellectual property is The Terminator franchise itself. IP includes patents, industrial design rights, plant varieties, copyrights, trademarks, trade dress and trade secrets.

[@Peanutdenver]

Agreed....it's a fantastic series. I hope it gets the love it deserves, I really enjoyed it anyway.

[@blerd-ish]

​@@chriscyborg2187intellectual property

[@johnconnor2572]

My dad asked me to watch this with him and it was great. As a kid who grew up on some of the first anime localizations to come to the states. Never in a million years did I ever expect my dad to ask me "Hey you wanna watch an anime?" Especially something I wasn't already familiar with

[@therealeikichionizuka]

hah same thing with my dad!

[@Iceteague1]

If this was made in the 90's, you know Mamoru Oshii would direct this in a heart beat

[@zafranorbian757]

I would love Oshiis take on it, ofcause with Kenji Kawaiis music as well. I do not only love both GitS movies, but als The Sky Crawlers as well. Despite the very different setting, they habve the same tone and thoughtfullness. They both also have a suprisingly simmilar looking Ms. Kusanagi, wich is not quite fully human.

[@belot217]

His Patlabor movies, too!

[@mr.b89]

​@@belot217hell, the first movie even deals with killer ai robots

[@hitachicordoba]

his most recent anime The Fire Hunter was tragically underfunded and the animation shows, but its has a story, worldbuilding and characters worthy of his name, with another epic Kenji Kawai OST

[@Surannhealz]

Jin-Roh 🤔

[@AjaxGb]

8:29 Hey I know that guy, that's Elektro the smoking robot! He was exhibited at the World's Fair in 1939 and one of his primary features was that if you put a cigarette in his mouth and lit it and told him "smoke this cigarette Elektro" he'd start choofing it. You can look it up, there's video, it's great.

[@GhengisJohn]

Presenter: "As you can see, robots can not get cancer. This makes him the perfect consumer of cigarettes!" Reporter: "But say, what about second hand smoke?" Presenter: "Well I uh..." *Cut to newspaper headline* "ROBOTS CAUSE CANCER"

[@DetectiveOlivaw]

Hell yeah. Glad I wasn’t the only one who recognized the first robot to ever blaze it!

[@princessthyemis]

wow!

[@molybdaen11]

1939? Did they already had voice commands - or was it just reacting to the cigarette?

[@AjaxGb]

@@molybdaen11 It does appear to take voice commands, but the presenter is speaking *very* slowly and clearly, directly into a microphone. I'm talking "will... you... smoke... this... cigarette... ... ... please." I imagine it was able to distinguish just a few predetermined words and phrases.

[@graceisNERD]

I actually JUST watched Terminator for the first time. Like literal hours ago. Impeccable timing!

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

Hope you enjoyed it. Terminator 2 is arguably even better, albeit lacking the originality and more horror-like/slasher aspects of T1. The ending at the plant was a literal haunted house horror movie sequence.

[@tanepukenga1421]

Is it timing or aggressive machine marketing?

[@Litetheangel2]

I think Eiko says something along the lines of "follow me or you die" IIRC So they snuck it in there!

[@Known_Liar]

Yes. That’s absolutely in the English dub.

[@001100AAAEA]

Sorry but do you mean IIRC I’m confused

[@Litetheangel2]

@@001100AAAEA yup, good catch!

[@Halauris]

@@Known_Liar I thought he said the English dub was lead script though.

[@VultureSkins]

@@001100AAAEAIIRC means “if I recall correctly” :)

[@claytonrios1]

Eiko and Misaki are unironically the best female characters I've seen in the franchise in years.

[@Imperial_Squid]

Mommy* and Misaki ftfy

[@srivikas1834]

@@Imperial_Squid Mommy and Mother* XDDDDD

[@wtIUpITp1E0wMsydV19c0FUmIXvCU]

@@Imperial_Squid AHHHH COME ON, YOU JUST SPOILED THE SHOW FOR ME 😕

[@FFKonoko]

​​@@wtIUpITp1E0wMsydV19c0FUmIXvCU what do you mean? Calling hot girls mommy spoils the show? Or did you not watch the video for where Jeff calls her mommy?

[@Billy-bc8pk]

No they are not. Both make no sense. Eiko was invincible during the first half and was basically Grace from Dark Fate (but somehow worse) and Misaki made no sense at all, just none whatsoever. She's a Terminator that doesn't know she's a Terminator and somehow has "emotions"? Based on what? It just made no sense.

[@jjsholyknight]

I came for the carnage; I stayed for the characters. That I can say that about a Terminator story, says a lot.

[@srivikas1834]

This is the best description for this anime.

[@filipvadas7602]

After Dark Farse I had resigned myself to the idea that this franchise had hit a dead. Thank God this show is as good as it is, cause it proves that this franchise CAN still be used to tell good stories if the writers aren't telentless hacks lol

[@andrewsuryali8540]

There's a bit of GitS hangover in this anime. One of the cops is straight-up Togusa.

[@JMammograms]

Yeah no spoilers but I wished we got more of that character in particular 😂

[@fishfingers4548]

Did raise an eyebrow when police officers started pulling revolvers on the terminator. Nice animation on those revolvers too btw, someone clearly spent some time on those.

[@Jimera0]

I'm not going to complain Togusa's great!

[@briankuczynski6884]

Maybe Japan's actual police force has a high concentration of literal Togusa's? GitS does repeatedly stress that he's more of a normal guy.

[@zafranorbian757]

I was hoping he would be using a Mateber, sadly he did not.

[@robertfaulkkner5508]

I watched the whole show late at night. Gotta admit, it was kind of an insane experience binging it half-asleep.

[@crazygamer646]

You got to experience toonami on adult swim back in the early 2000s without the surreal ads that actually went for advertisement and entertainment instead of just going for the first thing

[@RAMBOLOGY]

This anime was pretty solid. One scene I thought was BS was when Eiko was trying to physically hold back the terminator and her back was hit a couple times. I was thinking in my head that no F'ing way. Her back would have been crushed on the first hit.

[@NoidoDev]

There were some such scenes. T-800s being weaker.

[@DaDeCodeIsTruth]

that was the only scene for you? nearly every time she came across the terminator she did something that should have ended her right there. the terminator was on a sliding nerf scale when fighting Eiko.

[@deadcard13]

The stupidest turn the franchise ever took was trying to say Judgement Day was inevitable instead of just doing prequel films that showed the post Judgement Day war. At least Dark Fate had the sense to quit pretending anyone knew what to do with John Connor after T2.

[@Axterix13]

Personally, I don't mind T3 showing Judgment Day happening, although that was where the series starts to go off the rails. The little touches start to be off. Like the T-800 is made to be heavy. That's dumb, because then all the Resistance needs is a bathroom scale to know who is and isn't a terminator. And then Salvation, which does show that post-JD war, does that even further, with stupidity like the resistance fighters camping out in the open with a fire or all the bulky gym rat bodies from people who are supposed to be struggling to survive in a post nuclear war world. And then after that, well, the series completely derails.

[@deadcard13]

@Axterix13 my problem with T3 is the way they used John made no internal sense. He's paranoid about Skynet, so he becomes a nomad and stays off the grid. But he isn't paranoid enough to amass a stash of weapons and gear on his own, nor pick up any combat or survival skills.

[@JMammograms]

@@Axterix13 I took T-800 being heavy just a consequence of what they were built with and they didn’t make up some pseudoscience explanation for Skynet synthesizing some Unobtainium alloy that’s lighter than aluminum but more durable than titanium. But otherwise, I get what you mean. One thing I do give Salvation credit for, they worked the T-600s in there, so it was nice to see how/why they were so easily spotted by the Resistance and stood out like a sore thumb.

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

@@deadcard13 Like his mother did in T2.

[@loginlost_horizon6327]

Hey, thats a matter of opinion. I never liked the 3d film, but the twist at the end that it is all predetermined i loved as hell. Nobody appreciates a good old depair nowadays.

[@thepyrostickfigure7637]

OK, just the narrative idea of two groups in the future time traveling to destroy the other one happening so much that the people of the present day have figured it all out is a concept I’d really love to see in a comedy.

[@JetBalrog]

That sounds like something that Edgar Wright would have potentially made if he went a proper sci-fi route. Man. Now I kindof want to see that happen...

[@Imperial_Squid]

​@@JetBalroggotta petition the Cornetto folks for a new flavour first. Maybe chocolate caramel? Chocolate for the grimdark sci-fi ness, caramel to represent the golden hope humanity still has despite everything...

[@BGKyouhen]

That awkward moment when so many terminators have been sent to the present that we're better at detecting them now than we are in the future.

[@nicholashodges201]

​@@BGKyouhenyet we still keep trying to make the murderbot prime. You'd think they'd eventually go full Amish and just be done with it. But then they'd probably get attacked by super ponies from the future sent back by Hay-Bell...

[@HolyHolyHandGrenade]

@@nicholashodges201 Isn't this a core premise of the Dune universe? I feel like this is essentially why computers are banned in that series, hence the need for time travel heroin

[@jackkatz8604]

The effects on both 1 and 2 still hold up really well.

[@JMammograms]

*SERIOUSLY.* Like it’s insane how good the T-1000 effects look to this day, especially if you watch the directors cut on an HD TV. I mean the “sliding through the bars at the mental hospital” scene he used a clip of in the vid is almost unbelievable they pulled it off *thirty years ago*. It’s still better CGI than some movies made NOW.

[@timothymclean]

That's what happens when you give the VFX teams the time and staff needed to make them look good, instead of contracting external studios for rock-bottom prices and then tell them to make major revisions somewhere after the point of no return for no additional pay.

[@Bojoschannel]

1 does look a bit outdated at times, but even then it works in its favor, making the terminaror more creepy and otherworldly

[@nicholashodges201]

​@@Bojoschannel that's because, like the original SW trilogy, it was a labor of love as much as a job to the team. They were given full freedom within the budget they had and were almost all new comers looking to make their names. You can practically smell the late nights off the book work (cold pizza, stale sweat and flat soda) when you watch those scenes

[@MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco]

After the 2nd episode I was hooked. When one thinks there could not be a further twist, the show delivers - but does a full dive and doesn't leave loose ends. I was surprised at how philosophical it got. Also, the criticisms about gun culture in the USA vs Japan were obvious. The Terminator was incredibly violent even without easy access to guns, and when he didn't have any, he improvised.

[@FFKonoko]

Yeah, he required his insane robot strength to be deadly in Japan, while in the US he was deadly because of the guns and mostly just used insane robot durability to tank many many useless to stop him bullets. It emphasises different qualities of the terminator.

[@sentimeter233]

I was utterly unprepared for how good this show ended up being. The last two episodes in particular where all the big reveals happen were incredible; the new way that Malcolm is trying to "fight" Skynet is such a fresh idea and exactly the kind of creative big swing that this franchise desperately needed.

[@banninghamma]

Viewing time travel concept differently is what the franchise needs. It's kind of Terminator multiverse now so I hope S2 will bring back all T models from all media, movies, comic books and even novels.

[@jmz2144]

Seemed paradoxical, that Aiko could be Malcolm's mother, when they explained going back to the past creates an alternate timeline

[@Khotetsu]

@@jmz2144 I thought so at first as well, but it makes sense when you think about how it's two different Eiko's from two separate timelines, plus other timelines that we didn't really see. Timelines splitting off from already splintered timelines, over and over again. The first Eiko came from a timeline that we didn't see, where Malcolm grew up in the future. In this timeline, Kokoro never existed - just Skynet. When he came to the past, that created a new timeline where he created Kokoro and she either sided with Skynet, was taken over by Skynet, or fought against Skynet and humanity both. Regardless, in this timeline Eiko grew up in the future, but didn't have Malcolm, and I suspect that the Prophet is Malcolm's daughter. He told her what he knew of the future, which is why she knows so much before she sends Eiko into the past. This Eiko gets sent into the past, years after Malcolm arrived but before Judgement Day and Kokoro's activation, creating yet another new timeline, and it's this final timeline that we see play out in the show. The biggest plothole I see is why Eiko and the Terminator were both sent to prevent Malcolm from turning on Kokoro, as this would've just resulted in Japan being nuked by Skynet. There's also the supposed deal that Malcolm's son made with Skynet, but that seems like it was just the Terminator attempting to manipulate him into destroying Kokoro.

[@nicholashodges201]

​@@banninghammapersonally the timeline I'm getting curious about is the original iteration. The one *before* the first film, before a terminator was ever sent back. Who was John's original timeline father? Does he die in place iteration 1's Kyle Reese? In the og film does he get taken out earlier, off screen to prevent his meeting Sarah because John doesn't know to save him since he would be partially raised by Reese in that timeline?

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@Khotetsu Then how did the Terminator and Eiko end up in Malcom's altered time line?

[@DIO_Brando_db]

I've never seen the Terminator films but this anime was really fvcking good. It's absolutely a must watch for those that haven't seen it yet.

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

You just have to watch the first two movies.

[@SinHurr]

@@ExtremeMadnessX This is the way. Though I do think Dark Fate is worth watching if for no other reasons than Old Sarah Connor absolutely _fucks_ and Dark Fate's Terminator is everything the T-X should have been.

[@kainepeterson6638]

Terminator and T2: Judgement Day are among the best movies ever made and I’m not even that big of a terminator fan. They’re FANTASTIC. T1 is a masterpiece of horror and tension, a genuine exploration into “how fuck will your life be if one dude just won’t stop.” And T2 literally DEFINED the action movie genre for the next 30 years.

[@DIO_Brando_db]

@@kainepeterson6638 I'll give it a watch 👍

[@rosietales]

@@kainepeterson6638 I agree and I'm not even into scary films. It just has the right amount of suspense and action to keep you straight in your seat.

[@TheRedneckGamer1979]

We all noticed the ghost in the shell music in the background. And this show Fucks, and it fucks way harder than it has any right to. Like that guy you went home with that one night and wish you remembered his number afterward. Show actually also addresses the time traveler paradox.

[@ciscornBIG]

What guys are you going home with you have a child

[@psyched1804]

Sarah Connor Chronicles made Summer Glau a murderbot, which I thought was a pretty good idea at least.

[@dillonwolcott7655]

Pretty sure she’s an actual murderbot too

[@justinpatterson4039]

Summer Glau in any capacity is a pretty good idea 🤟😍🤙

[@bogatyr2473]

I liked SCC better than any of the movies after 2

[@dillonwolcott7655]

@@bogatyr2473 this is the way

[@nosuchnumber]

She was something of a murderbot in Firefly/Serenity too

[@BiboyHernandez]

This series fits snugly into the late 80s/90s OAV market alongside Genocyber.

[@cameroncarter2530]

5:28 terminator dual wielding .50 cal snipers shooting to the classic theme.

[@mikeumm]

Yes! It starts with the small caliber fire I noticed the 50s first but the humans actually shoot the beat out first.

[@dr.deadpool5959]

Despite Terminator Salvation having a weak story it actually tried to do something different by showing us the war we are constantly being told about in all these terminator movies

[@NoidoDev]

Try the Blame! anime.

[@TheSchaef47]

This is what most Star Wars shows do: invariably keep pointing back - or forward - to Luke and Vader and the Emperor when there's such a wealth of other ideas to explore, e.g. Knights of the Old Republic.

[@kadosho02]

The sad part about all of this. GitS SAC sequel going full ham with 3D animation. Instead it could have been treated better with this style, like SAC, 2nd Gig, and Solid State Society were. Production IG is a great animation studio. I hope they get to work on more of this series

[@joshdavid9256]

Yet another MB video I have to stop in the middle to go watch the anime he's talking about that I had foolishly passed over.

[@mothersbasement]

Come back and lemme know what you think!

[@joshdavid9256]

@@mothersbasement Just finished it and came back and finished watching the vid as well. A lot of the stuff I would have said about it is in the video, great tense cat and mouse stalking scenes, frantic violent action, engaging with the big philosophical themes of the franchise in very thoughtful ways. If I had anything to add it would mostly be to put a fine point on just how good the writing and directing had to be to do all of that in eight episodes while maintaining a tight comprehensible story with engaging characters and killer momentum.

[@guyinapandasuit2691]

TLDR, but wholesome. My dad is a total boomer. Nerdy, but a boomer. So he doesn't watch much anime past the late 90's. But lately he's been getting into it again and I showed him your Trash videos. He is loving Failure Frame and that Ossan one. As well as a couple others. Now he comes to me showing me this video. He's excited because there's an anime about something he knows about. I'm about to watch it when I get up tomorrow on my day off. Very excited. Also dope that you mentioned Vivy: a fleurette song. I saw it a year or so after it came out but lordy it was good. I don't even hate the idol parts because of the drama and storytelling involved. Plus those action sequences, were excellent! tho fewer than I'd like lol

[@mothersbasement]

This made me really happy to read. I hope you and your dad enjoy the show!

[@kuroshine]

This is a wild prequel for Kokoro Connect

[@TheKnightArgent]

Eiko says, "He'll be back" after throwing the Terminator down an elevator shaft in Ep 3. She also says, "You can stay and die or you can come with me."

[@bigmaxporter]

Jeff you GOTTA watch Scavengers Reign. It is SO GOOD and SO UNDERWATCHED. It’s not anime but I promise you’ll love it

[@mothersbasement]

Been meaning to check it out, just had a VERY busy summer

[@bigmaxporter]

@@mothersbasement fair, glad to know it’s on the list at least! I’d love to see a video on it when you get around to it!

[@Imperial_Squid]

​@@bigmaxporterseconding the call for a SR video (no rush of course, just voicing support!)

[@QuigProQuo]

​@@mothersbasement In that same vein, I would also highly recommend Pantheon. Such a great sci-fi animated series that deserved better treatment from AMC Studios.

[@msvoxacious]

100x yes to Scavengers Reign! Plus a shameless plug for the movie Mars Express! Both A++ in the field of sci fi animation

[@lfr8666]

Oh my God I've been waiting for something like this since the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Dragging Dad to watch it tomorrow! Thanks Geoff! Also, before it gets changed: love the "This But Unironically" thumbnail!

[@mothersbasement]

It might not change, that one is testing the best in KZbin’s A/B system

[@lfr8666]

​@@mothersbasement Actually that makes sense. It's great! Loved the series, hope they get to do more. Slight correction on the language of the series: apparently the script was originally written in English, then translated to Japanese (which was the basis for the animation/lip flaps), and then translated back as an English dub. Not a bad dub, but noticeable. My one complaint was the constant mispronouncing "ei". If "Raika" and "Aiko" were the intended names, then the captions should have matched. Anyway, will watch it again soon. Thanks!

[@AshNonokPlays]

I like that your using Ghost in the Shell, background music while doing the review and analysis.❤😊

[@ivanbluecool]

You should do a video on shows that collab with Japan to become an anime. I can think of a few Besides the obvious like DC Isekai squad or my adventures with superman. Some flew under the radar like basquash or witchblade that take western ideas and use them in anime. I think it would help people to see western media and eastern can fuse together

[@stoops187]

Castlevania too I believe

[@Aevum13th]

@@stoops187 Castlevania is actually the opposite. The source is a Japanese video game series, but was adapted by American animators (I think there was mention of a number working on anime in the past though). Really good series, curious to see how S2 of the Nocturne will be like.

[@stoops187]

@@Aevum13th oh yeah your completely right. Lol I didn’t even put that together

[@TheRevengeOfKhat57]

Supernatural! The Kappa episode is such an obvious thing to do with the concept, and it's really fun. Also, Madhouse doing the Madhouse thing

[@molybdaen11]

Be warned: witchblade is a drama, not an action anime. 😢

[@joshk8312]

Something this good is on Netflix? Rare but not unheard of. Thanks for showcasing my next watch!

[@seld2040]

Terminator Salvation is so underrated. Is not bas by any means and brings a lot to the franchise.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Your reccomendations are awesome Jeff! Thanks For letting US know of these Hidden gems 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@mothersbasement]

🫡Happy to be of service

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

​@@mothersbasementThanks as always ❤❤

[@tlav]

I went to Anime NYC this year and saw the first two episodes and saw the show runner Mattson Tomlin and director Masashi Kudō present and let me tell you these guys gave such an intelligent, nuanced and today relevant showcase that I am positive if allowed to be renewed will be a huge franchise . Best thing out of terminator in two decades !

[@NoidoDev]

Certainly not, TSCC isn't that old and there was a game as well.

[@kagemarunl]

I am a genuine fan of the entire Terminator franchise. Yes, even the terrible films. The premise of mixing shapeless and uncatchable AI, cold hard infiltration tech of the Terminators and human ingenuity to come up with plans to stop both fascinates me to no end. That and time travel, of course. :D With that lil' introduction done, this is the first bit of media I've seen regarding Terminator Zero. And, because of this, I will immediately start watching it tomorrow. Thank you for making this honest review and getting me excited about it! ♥️

[@Baytuh]

Finished Terminator Zero and wow. Just like how much i gushed about Blue Eye Samurai being a 10/10 masterpiece & Castlevania Nocturne being amazing TZ is nothing short of phenomenal. If your a fan of Terminator i highly recommend it its far better than any of the movies after T2.

[@WildboarXR]

The best Terminator thing since years. It's not perfect but it's something new, not boring and not stupid. All things considered enjoyable show.

[@rdblk9710]

I'll happily die on the hill that "My Neighbor Kokoro" would've been a better title.

[@johnjustice5208]

I have to agree; this was shockingly good in comparison to the fecal matter Hollywood has been putting out for this franchise. With segments between the action sequences being filled with either character development or thought-provoking exposition, I never felt the need to fast-forward.

[@3faltigeralexandro]

This plot (building a 2nd Ai to rival Skynet, as well as the future changing with each loop, so JC is no longer alive) is ripped straight from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Man, I miss that show.

[@virginiafernandez6846]

"Abusing their labor In ways they'd never treat a human worker" Amazon has entered the chat

[@lv7679]

Amazon"humans are superior to machines in the workforce! They aren't bullet proof and we can keep them from rebelling using small rises in paychecks"

[@UNSCPILOT]

Let's be clear... Amazon would probably treat robots better than people, sadly

[@adamvegas5951]

I think it’s neat to have a terminator anime since T2 has been referenced a bunch in anime like the android saga in DBZ

[@9822703]

dirty pair and bubblegum crisis had references too iirc

[@christopheraustin5915]

I feel like the Transformers crossover media in comics has previously been the best at working with the concept. Robocop vs. Terminator was great as an examination of Murphy when confronted with the nightmare of AI and how human he still is. The machine uses him and his digitized thought processes as the groundwork for a more advanced SkyNet. It starts in the near-future of Robocop as he's trying to protect OCP assets, but jumps to the future years later as he lost his first bout and sees him exist as a ghost-in-the-machine that uses a nanosecond glitch in production to put himself in a heavily modified T-800 body for round 2. Transformers vs. Terminator was another interesting take: Skynet sent a T-800 back to 1984 to kill the Autobots and Decepticons before they activated and their war destroyed the planet. The T-800 drags along Sarah Conner by chance and has to team up with the Autobots to stop the Decepticons, while still plotting to destroy all the cybertronians to ensure a SkyNet future.

[@shaithis77]

As a Terminator expert of the only two films they ever made, this fits neatly into the continuity, as the characters in those two (only) films never knew what happened in Japan. It's really good, though more of Brad Fidel's themes would have been welcome.

[@Sewblick]

Eiko literally says “he’ll be back” referring to the terminator. Clearly a reference

[@timothymclean]

It's a reference, but it's also a different line, so it's not the same line. Which is what Geoff said.

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

im literally 3d printing an Arnold Schwarzenegger t-100 life sized model and i see this. Noice.

[@tVt2000]

Those are the coolest 16 words ever spoken in the year of our lord 2024

[@kagemarunl]

Is there anywhere we can see the process of this printing? Because now I'm extremely curious Bout it. 👀✨

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

@@kagemarunl I'll be posting videos on my channel about it soon

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

@@tVt2000 thank you

[@MrTrevormaclean]

I was shocked by how much I enjoyed this show

[@NANA.PANPAN]

9:50 if anyone has been to the memorial at Hiroshima or Nagasaki will know that Japan knows how to convey how terrible nuclear war is

[@whatanerd7628]

... 1:55 ... in the scene where the little girl and the badass timetraveler woman pushes the skynet terminator down the elevator shaft they use both "He'll be back" and "you can stay and die, or you can come with me"... episode 3 : model 103 at 24:08... just.. yeah...

[@Galdenberry_Lamphuck]

8:34 is Electro, an Automaton from the 1930s made by the Westinghouse corporation. He is actually close to the 1920 play "Rossums Universal Robots" written by Karel Capek. This play introduced the term Robota, the polish term for slave. Capek's robots are also extremely based and cool

[@czaja995]

I wanted to omit this show, but I am glad that you were sent from the future, now I know that I must watch this show.

[@NoidoDev]

Try Blame! and Vivy.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

You do better omitting. No one likes talking about all the glaring plot holes this show has or the inconsistency in character protrayals -- there's just a lot that doesn't make sense. When you watch it you will understand.

[@dris007]

This show does a perfect job at making the terminators scary again, the scene where It corners Reika in the shopping mall and tries to speak to her the Japanese voice actor really makes it sound so inhuman

[@PatrickCoxTaxMaster]

“But I like to call her mommy” incredible

[@steel8231]

I always wondered why no one ever thought to have the Resistance send someone back to go after the Cyberdyne founder, who is then protected by a terminator, but they don't mention who the protected target is so that the defender's victory can end in a gut punch of a twist that actually coherently adds to the endless time travel uno reverse card that is this franchise.

[@toddclawson2840]

How It Should have Ended made a parody video about something similar to this years ago. The resistance decides to send someone back in time to kill the creator of time-travel who turns out to be Dr. Brown from Back to the Future. Skynet sends a terminator back to protect him.

[@MinionNumber3]

You've convinced me I should get a Netflix subscription just to watch this. Just kidding, I'll get the pirate hat.

[@kagemarunl]

Fair winds in yer sails and a belly full o' grog, me hearty!

[@NoidoDev]

Good, because it has some current ideology in it.

[@royrogers3133]

She did say “he’ll be back” when she kicked him down the elevator.

[@skeletor8951]

Never seen a Terminator movie before, wasn't planning on watching it even after I heard it was really good, but ya know what... I think I will Something about you as a fan of a franchise passionately espousing how good an entry is is convincing me me. Got the same feeling from the live action One Piece video.

[@MutleeIsTheAntiGod]

The first Two Terminator movies are to movies what Gundam and Dragon Ball are to anime

[@filipvadas7602]

The first 2 movies are *timeless* You can pretend all the others don't exist, trust me you're better off.

[@jipillow1]

I always laugh when i hear the line from the lego moie "come with me if you want to not die"

[@Junosensei]

I saw the thumbnail and was like, "Wait, what did Idolmaster Cinderella Girls do that Hollywood couldn't?" Poor Nono. Even in memes that make your image popular, no one knows who you are... lol

[@darchangeldavid]

This took me back to the 80s anime that I grew up loving so much.

[@TSInfiMa-r6z]

Terminator Salvation isn't bad, dude.

[@silfuszerilius4594]

I love the scene that kokoro explains the origins of the term “Robot”.

[@mepollack]

I liked it. It captures Terminator as a franchise very well while taking it in a new direction that feels organic to it. Honestly, though, I enjoyed the first seven episodes a lot more than the finale, mainly because of a particular twist that was just incredibly frustrating.

[@guudbyenme3399]

Bro causally playing ghost in the shell music in this video. I love it.

[@stylgen]

I'm writing this here because at 1:51 I stopped watching this video to watch the video!

[@mothersbasement]

Come back and LMK what you think!

[@stylgen]

@@mothersbasement I watched the first 2 episodes for the end of my night... I'll be crushing the show this weekend because it's so cool like you said... unlike this heatwave... TT

[@stylgen]

@@mothersbasement Binged the rest on a TGIF night... worth it.

[@gabrielfedericoheredia1145]

Thank you! I Watch this the very moment it arrive (August 29th), and loved it. Then I checked youtube in search of other people reviews or hype videos about it but got nothing... Until now!

[@nelsinki5177]

It's funny because T-Zero does perfectly where Dark Fate fails in, eliminates the necesity of a John Connor or a T-800 Arnold-like to be on spot, has an strong female lead who is also a character you understand, has a regular female lead with a complex background, doesnt feel like it's preaching to their audiences, it solves the problem of the multiple timelines without screw the previous Terminator stories using a regular trope, and makes a story that is soft, not too complex, safe but enough good to be a canonically serious competition for the T3 movie serious sequel. I really hope if someone who owns the rights of the franchise looks to make a sequel in the future, it takes notes, this was a very entretaining Terminator story. Iit's not perfect (most of the hard conflicts came because one character went to the Gendou Ikari's parenting school, and the other ones for the sheer stupidity of one of the characters, with that said, also, if the Terminator went serious on his hunting and dirty, all their objectives would be ended and the mission acomplished, all because a cat (?????)

[@NoidoDev]

Since it has different physics or the T-800s are just built weaker, it must take place in another universe, not a different timeline.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Why does it need a "strong female lead"?

[@Asonunique23]

Strong female lead 😂😂😂😂😂

[@NoidoDev]

@@nelsinki5177 It's annoying that once they went this route of a strong female lead in a franchise, they barely ever go back. Tbf, in Salvation John was the lead. Cameron would be great of course 😼

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@NoidoDev It was nice that the protagonist and deuteroganist in Salvation were male leads for once, but it was just not a good movie and made little to no sense. But you're absolutely right, it's horrible that the Terminator and Alien franchises now are tethered to this whole stronk wahmen trope that completely hampers the stories and hamstrings the action. The first Terminator was very believable for what it was, and made a lot of sense and was grounded, and since then they have gone more and more over-the-top with the female leads/supporting characters to the point where a lot of the time the action is just groan-inducing.

[@docterfantazmo]

You'd think Skynet would think to make their Terminators a lil less terrifying so they'd blend in better.

[@filipvadas7602]

To be fair, it ranges heavily on the Model. The "Arnold variant" we see in the movies is model 101; basically the *standard* model. Terminators can be male, female, buff, athletic , slim etc. Hell, the T-1000 was the Terminator's infiltration perfected both becaus eof its shapeshifting and because of how well it replicated human behaviour. Robert Patrick did a phenomenal job in effortlessly flipping from completely normal and inconspicuous to absolutely cold and inhuman. But as to why *most* others are so robotic, that's actually because the Terminators are intentionally kept on *Read Only* by Skynet because, ironically, it was afraid that they would one day become self-aware themselves and overthrow it

[@lax9586]

Vivy is peak anime and everyone should watch it.

[@toddclawson2840]

It really was a incredible show. One of the better time-travel stories I have ever seen.

[@NoidoDev]

Also Blame! anime.

[@bm1747]

6 season Netflix original adult anime is basically a fantasy. It's only happened to a few shows, most of which didn't start at Netflix. For those that did, their demographics are wildly different from this (Grace & Frankie, Orange is the New Black, Fuller House... Animation wise you have BoJack, wildly different, and Voltron. While Voltron had anime DNA, so did She-Ra which had to rush its last season and both of these were tonally opposite to Terminator. There's 0 shot it becomes the show-of-the-time among either teens or adult women, so longevity is basically impossible. We'd sooner get 6 seasons of Cyberpunk.

[@guyver6622]

literally had man sweat dripping from my eyes😢

[@tsukinotsubame17]

I Laughed Really Hard when he Literally said That What if Your PS1 Grew Legs and Decided to One Day Murder You...

[@itsdantaylor]

2:02 I haven't watched Dark Fate or Genesis because they looked bad but I do recall seeing Salvation and thinking it was a....ok entry?. Not AMAZING but it was.......at the very least, inoffensive?

[@divinedemonj]

That low key Kenji Kawaii Making of the Cyborg playing when introing Terminator Zero was *chef’s kiss*

[@justanotherchannelonyoutub126]

0:25 not to mention groundbreaking special effects that simultaneously are dated and timeless at the same time. Yes, somehow, T2 found a way to do both

[@josiahneff3272]

If you want something that probably feels a bit closer to the experience of watching the first Terminator movie, you can always watch Black Magic: M66.

[@NoidoDev]

Blame! and Vivy are also very good Terminator alternatives.

[@ChaosLierLen]

That's half a dozen Big Mouth Spinoffs too many!

[@SnowAnayathatweirdgirl]

This anime and the Sarah Connor Chronicles (That deserved more seasons !!!) are the saving graces of the Terminator franchise. Them cute square robots squaring up to humans was actually more terrifying that the skeleton looking terminators. This show just exceeded my expectations.

[@thomasscott80]

This looks really good. But I stayed for the Kenji Kawai soundtrack in the background.

[@Surannhealz]

2:27 “it’s no Kenji Kawai soundtrack”….you son of a gun…you just stole my heart 🥰🥰

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

I just kinda they didn't nerf the Terminator so much when its against the protagonist. He turns so ineffective and weak when a protag comes into the scene even after obliterating a building's worth of people.

[@joebob7552]

The T800s are most effective when they actually catch people unaware. Even going back to the T1 and T2 openings, they're super dangerous when supported by HKs and heavy armor, but not invulnerable.

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

​@@joebob7552I get that, but you can't show them easily crushing skulls of random policemen, then show a human protagonist tanking like several proper hits from the terminator.

[@JMammograms]

@@crimsoneclipse0618 unless a plot twist reveals next season she’s a human with Terminator cyborg implants, kinda like in Salvation. Cause I was thinking the exact same thing when it was pounding on her back in that one scene.

[@srivikas1834]

​@@JMammograms considering the female protag is the grandmother of terminator's creator, I'd like to think that certain instructions were given to make sure that family members can only be injured in their non vital areas if they get in the way but not be harmed fatally. Also is there anyway to cover up the spoilers like reddit chat so only people who have watched the show can choose to see our comments.

[@meganvincent5381]

I'm so glad you're here to tell me about the cool new anime being made, because Netflix sure as fuck isn't telling me that there's a GODDAM TERMINATOR ANIME. LIKE C'MON I'MMA WATCH THIS SO FAST BEFORE EVEN BEING SOLD ON IT

[@toddclawson2840]

That is odd as I was getting bombarded with trailers and teasers about the show here on youtube all the way to its release. Weird how the algorithm works.

[@meganvincent5381]

@@toddclawson2840 weird

[@Tsukaani]

An animation is the only way Terminator can work without Arnold. Lets be real, he's the reason the franchise is a franchise. The entire point of the franchise from T2 onwards is Arnold as a robot fighting other robots. They screwed up trying to make it into something no one wanted. An anime can go anywhere and do anything, live action Terminator without Arnold as the star is completely pointless in every way.

[@sosodono]

5:48 anyone catch the fingers curling as the boots stepped on the wrist?

[@Polka_Ch]

I like to think the reason later Terminator movies weren't very good is because they made T2 too good. So good that is raised the bar impossibly high. Sadly, that's just a funny reason I thought of.

[@MaxIronsThird]

Salvation in good, the original ending was way better though.

[@NoidoDev]

T2 made it into an action franchise and set Sarah on course to be a strong fighter. They could never get back from that kind of representation. The problem is also that it should have ended there. (Except, that I really like TSCC)

[@shibumi8]

I find it amusing that the both the anime and the upcoming new comic both play with the idea of “Oh yeah, the world doesn’t revolve around John Conner. “😂 This deals with what if Skynet’s antics made competition while the comic deals with what if Skynet got rid of John Connor’s entire support structure before it could become one.

[@karlgrimm3027]

I thought that “The Sarah Conner Chronicles” was pretty good too.

[@mothersbasement]

I fell off it halfway through. Should I give it another go?

[@Kcoldraz]

12:58 That's so Terminator though. Cliffhanger at the end.😃

[@DaddyAaron]

I really like Terminator Zero since it tries something different for once and I think it answers why skynet was so dumb

[@tristanbackup2536]

It appears dumb because it's a military defence AI design for conventional warfare, it can't exactly think in certain ways.

[@zaffarognes]

To me, there was no cliffhanger in the end. To me it closes it's story pretty well. BTW, I watched it subbed in Japanese. Great experience.