This black beauty is a non-runner for a far too common reason...

Today we have a beautiful Zodiac triple calendar moonphase from the 1960's that doesn't run. Join us for finding out why and for a discussion on the brand and some of their most famous watches.
We'll find out why the Zodiac killer got his name and we'll divert into which pushers your significant other may have on you!
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[@NW-lj6oo]

A great video that shows some real craftsmanship. It makes me wonder what watches Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy and Dennis Nilsen wore? Was Zodiac’s customer database central to the manhunt all those years ago? Interesting and unusual questions to ponder after watching a restoration video.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks! I started wondering that myself actually, but think a feature on serial killers' watches would be a bit too morbid...

[@MillwalltheCat]

Definitely a Swatch for Dahmer, Mickey Mouse for Gacy, and Nilsen would have worn his issued W10.

[@JasperJanssen]

He wasn’t called the Zodiac Killer for no reason! Ted Cruz, I mean.

[@lablackzed]

@@VintageWatchServices Old Adolf's watches would be an interesting story .

[@Patriot-rising]

All wore deranged Timex watches. That is why they were always so angry.

[@sitandfish]

Wow what a treat because, I own that watch and never expected to see a repair video on it. Mine is manual wind and probably 10 years older with a dark copper face. Shocking how they get seconds, minutes, hours, day, date, month and moon phase all in that little space. More shocking to see you pull it apart and put it back together again. Well done sir. Really made my day! ✌️

[@VintageWatchServices]

That's very cool to hear! It's a very nice watch and becoming more and more collectible :)

[@greggc.touftree5936]

I also was very interesting in the works for all the complications. I assume it would be rather pricey, because even the valjoux with all these movements cost a good sum more than their base 7750.

[@1caitsith]

"If you want to look like a guy who likes diving, or if you want to look like a guy who kills a lot of people. Then the Sea Wolf is a great choice." LOL I blew coffee out my nose. Thanks!

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂 Sorry to hear that but I'm also happy to hear that 😁

[@EddyTeetree]

Me too. I thought maybe that killed the brand ahead of the quartz crisis lol.

[@freakysteve140281]

I drive in Perth traffic in Western Australia, having both looks are somewhat of a necessity. Finally there is a watch that compliments the situation.

[@ygrbooks]

Finally, a watch with a moon phase: thank you so much. Most people will not have realized this, but shortly before and then at full moon many people get really, really weird. You can see and hear this e.g. in car drivers honking their way through traffic or - even worse - in the following road rage. Or people just acting aggressively. Because of this, I have always felt that a moon calendar is absolutely essential in a watch. However, very few of our watch specialists on KZbin seem to see/know this. A watch like this can tell time to some extent, but more importantly, warn you if the "LUNATICS" are out there - just check it! The reference to the brilliant Zodiac killer movie has also been greatly appreciated here - thank you again.

[@VintageWatchServices]

My pleasure, glad you liked it! The moon certainly has an effect on people, probably some more than others...

[@OffGridInvestor]

I have heard it's on THE NIGHT of a full moon that people go a little crazy.

[@dshe8637]

It's a total myth, but fun idea anyway

[@rachelm9990]

I just love your running commentary. You are certainly the most amusing watchmaker on KZbin

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks so much, Rachel! More to come, so stay tuned :)

[@angelherrera6820]

Great restoration of a beautiful watch! Always look forward to your videos. Great work! Can't wait to see what comes next. Cheers!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Angel! Not sure what will be next, but we'll see in a week or so 😉

[@G58]

@@VintageWatchServices That was captivating. Am absolutely certain I could never do any of that. The parts are too small and my memory is not good enough. On that note, did I miss where you replaced the broken screw? Finally, having lived in Norway for a short time, I can’t decide whether you’re Norwegian or Swedish. Apologies if I’m miles out. Thank you for sharing your wonderful skills, and this gorgeous watch. Most of my watches have black faces. None are as nice as this Zodiac. Peace

[@decab8292]

I find the workmanship in manual watches fascinating. Personally I really like pocket watches and prefer them over wrist watches. Thank you.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for watching and for your comment! Mechanical watches are indeed fascinating, and there are a lot of amazing pocket watches. My interest in watches actually started with pocket watches but nowadays I'm mostly focused on wristwatches.

[@hankvanduijn]

Another fantastic video!! I've only been watching them since this week since I found them on You Tube and have spent hours enjoying them! Thank you very much!

[@VintageWatchServices]

That's very cool to hear :)

[@ronaldlinkenhoker5705]

Those closeups of the shock settings are fantastic!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Ronald! I'm trying to add new interesting shots as I learn how to use the cameras better :)

[@floydingram603]

Thanks for another great video, this Zodiak black dial is so beautiful, and thanks for share watch histories.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Floyd 👍

[@PR-fk5yb]

Thanks for a great video. I rewinded it a couple times. Was trying to see how the selection 30-31 days of the month worked and how it skips at midnight... no luck... still happy... 🌞

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for that! The month disc is actually only manually set, no automatic switch over at 31 to 1. This isn't as crazy as it might seem, given that even in watches that do switch the month over at the 31st still needs to be manually corrected 5 out of 12 months...

[@keithfucious7067]

Once again, an awesome display of your talents. So glad to see you removed the cap jewels before it went through the ultrasonic then oiled them properly seemingly effortlessly. They can be a pain in the neck sometimes and its so easy to try to cheat and not remove them. So many people just assume the Ultrasonic will clean them properly without disassembling them, then oil through the hole jewel with an automatic oiler.. Grrrr I hate that. The one thing you MUST do is get those hole jewels and cap jewels sparkling clean and the only way to do that is to disassemble them..

[@PMS1950]

Excellent video. Commentary is perfect and provides the perfect balance between being informative and pleasantly entertaining.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Wow, thanks, Titus! More to come, so stay tuned :)

[@nullifiednullifidian5973]

I loved your trolling of the OCD audience members by snapping the case back on crooked at 25:28.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂 Yes, I put it on aligned for the owner :)

[@bullnose01]

What a gorgeous movement. Thanks for showing it to us. Happy holidays for you and the family, Stian.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks a lot, Bullnose and the same to you and yours!

[@robertbrowne7880]

That's a watch I've looked for in the past. That one's in great shape.

[@VintageWatchServices]

It's a beauty for sure! They're getting more difficult to find nowadays.

[@AutomotiveEvangelist]

There's a vintage jewelry store near me that has had one of these (gold plated case) in the window for 6 months now. They're asking a bit too much given that the case is fairly worn and I'm sure it needs a service. But I still stop and look at it every time I walk by.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Yeah, they're beautiful watches... If you wait a bit they might be open for a price suggestion :)

[@ccooper8785]

5:37 bloody hell ! This video has taken a dark turn !😟It is night time and I am here on my own just harmlessly watching youtube videos. wait a minute, did I lock the back door ? what's that noise ? is that someone on the stairs ? 😱

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂👍

[@kokobwild2413]

Superbly calming.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Great to hear! More to come, so stay tuned :)

[@Do_all_self]

«A killer look» got new meaning there. 😃 Zodiak diver and a white van. Maybe also square glasses and a mustache to complete the look. Jokes aside, very pretty watch!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Good point, they should bundle the white van with the watch 😂 Thanks for watching!

[@Nefville]

I wish I had seen this before I took my grandfathers Polerouter apart, had a screw from the microrotor under the balance wheel. I didn't see it and eventually had to take it to get it serviced, would have been an easy fix if I had spotted it but always a good idea to keep your watches serviced, especially ones like that from family that mean a lot. Unfortunately I scratched a bridge working on it and I am still upset about it. Bugs me to this day.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Nef, thanks for watching! It is indeed a very common issue, and when you open a watch and see an empty screwhole, there's a good chance that screw has come loose and is blocking something. And keep those screwdrivers sharpened! 😉

[@maxin306]

So complicated movement. Class!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Maxin! It's a beautiful piece :)

[@johnhull2941]

fun to listen too fun to watch thanks again for this cant wait for the next one true craft is always great to watch

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks so much, John, that's very kind 😊

[@Rich77UK]

What a beautiful watch. Its stunning.

[@VintageWatchServices]

It really is! 😍

[@jwoodyr1]

Thanks for yet another great video, Stian! The sexy slow-mo of the caseback sliiiiding into the cleaning solution is a very nice addition to you increasing cinematic skillset. With epilame on the pallet stones and escape wheel, do you let the watch run for a period of time before applying lubrication to the exit stone? I read somewhere a dry run period strips the epilame from the contact points to create a patch for the lube to sit. Thanks again!!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Woody, thanks so much! Yes, I do indeed do that, one or two minutes dry running is enough. It's not necessarily a big thing tbh, but the BHI recommends it, so I'll follow that :)

[@Watchugoton]

Stunning piece stunning work 💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thank you so much, Andrew! 😀

[@randyallen2771]

Great video Stian but I was waiting for the part where you super glue the screw back together! Just curious, I've always wondered where you get replacement screws for vintage watches? Are they common sizes like you find at the (watch) hardware store or are they proprietary to each manufacturer/watch? I remember Zodiac watches well as my first good watch, back in the 70's was a Zodiac Sea Chron that I bought at the military exchange store. They were common, especially the Seawolfs. Still have that watch! That's a nice looking watch you have there, thanks for sharing!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Randy! I think I learnt from the super glue incident that I need to make sure my jokes are not getting anyone into trouble! 😂 But I have a couple of videos coming up where a similar level of black magic is required... Very cool that you still have your Sea Chron, they are quite rare nowadays and very collectible. It's probably worth 30-40 times more now than when you bought it!

[@onlyvintagewatches]

Very nice watch and very nice work! I love the moonphase complication! You definitely earned a new subscriber!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for the sub, George, that's great to hear :) And subbed back!

[@keithyoung7]

Really enjoyed the video, your commentary on the movement and Zodiac company was excellent. Thanks.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Much appreciated, thanks Keith!

[@jatco84]

Enjoyed your vid and work on this great looking piece...as with most of your other work, along with your commentaries and often history lesson. Fascinated by the intricacies of mechanical watches. Quite interesting all around. Thank you..and Kudos.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks so much, Thomas :)

[@MrAlan0151]

Enjoyed this very much, lovely watch.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@keysersoze503]

Kudos on your dexterity and skill.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks! Video editing helps 😉

[@TheClockwise770]

Another great restoration. Thank you Thion .Did they have a Zephyr watch company. I seem to remember seeing these in my youth.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks! The name is actually Stian, but I'm used to it being misunderstood :) I don't recall a watch company called Zephyr, but there were so many companies back in the day before the quartz crisis...

[@ronmartin3755]

Very nice watch and a good video of finding out what is wrong. I have an old Cyma watch that started life as a woman's pocket watch and was made into a Men's wrist watch. The balance is all messed up. Hair spring is not good, not sure about the balance staff or the pivot jewels for the balance. Do you repair watches this old? Thank you.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Ron, I do take on repairs of old watches but I'm extremely busy and have to be very selective. If you can send me a mail with photos of the watch to [e-mail], we can discuss there.

[@alanpreston3111]

Another great job , thanks 🙏🏻

[@gromit1996]

I was just going to remark that this must have been an entry in the tiniest screw contest and then.... you beat me to it. You said that the month disc doesn't change automatically. Is that common for this movement or a quirk? The sad thing about vintage watches, for me, is that there are so many amazing examples out there, and they are usually pretty affordable, but just slightly out of the realm of being cheap enough to make them a more regular addition to my collection. I'll have to reconsider my buying habits. :)

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Clay, great minds think alike! 😂 It wasn't uncommon for the month disc to be set manually and it's actually not as crazy as it sounds. Even if the month turns automatically you will still have to set it manually five out of the twelve months, and there if of course added complexity to make the month disc turn every 31st day. And yes, it's a slippery slope buying vintage watches... but as long as your wife doesn't know about it, you're golden.

[@gregcapella5941]

Great watch repair videos !!!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Greg :)

[@redbed1604]

That's an amazing Watch! Good job!

[@VintageWatchServices]

It really is! 😍

[@redrufus444]

Another outstanding watch restoration., Bravo....

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thank you so much, Ralph! 😀

[@Every_Day_Adventure]

stunning watch

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks David!

[@supermenthol5531]

My new favourite watch channel 👍

[@VintageWatchServices]

That's really cool to hear!

[@lemokolyon]

Nice job. A beautiful watch.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks!

[@jcmontecarlo6123]

Beauty!❤

[@John-wx9oy]

Pardon if this has been asked already but I have a couple of questions about the unopened barrel. Is it placed in the watch cleaner? If so, should there be a concern about cleaning solution remaining within the barrel? Thank you for your wonderful videos. I just subscribed and am a very new watchmaker hobbyist.

[@golden.lights.twinkle2329]

If you have a watch with the day and month wheels marked in a different language, how easy is it to get replacement parts in English?

[@VintageWatchServices]

It's likely much easier to learn the seven words in that foreign language 😉 Especially for vintage watches.

[@paulnewman11]

I’m wondering if the moon phase shifter is geared to lunar time ? 13 months versus 12 calendar months? Interested to hear from you. Brilliant video, thanks

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hi Paul, thanks for watching! Moon phase complications are generally quite simple, with 59 teeth which are moved one day at a time, and the disc itself having two identical halves. That leads to the moon phase display being completed in 29.5 days, which is a very close approximation to the moon's actual orbit of 29 days, 12 hours and 44 minutes. This is an accuracy that leads to an error of one day off about every three years, which is good enough for most! Loved you in The Sting btw 😁

[@dominickcolasanto6582]

Really nice looking watch. Entire watch and movement looks in great shape I suspect the screw came loose eirly in its life and the owner put the watch away safely. I bet thats a keeper. First time I heard of calendar watch that you have to manually change the month was this a common feature back in the day? Very interesting and enjoyable overhaul.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Dominick! It was actually quite common to have to manually change the month. This isn't really as strange as it might sound like, given that you have to do so five out of the twelve months anyway, unless you have an actual perpetual calendar watch.

[@gergelyszakacs]

Why is the plate holding the dial so much scratched? I'm talking about the part that you start working on at around 15:30.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Gergely, thanks for watching! The calendar plate has a brushed finish that might make it seem more scratched than it actually is. There are for sure some scratches on it, and that's probably related to all the screws, which someone's screw driver has slipped on and marked the plate. Shows the importance of dressing one's screwdrivers!

[@demmertp]

Nicely done.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Paul!

[@hockeyrd99]

Great work! I've worked on a few Zodiac watches with a gasket in the inside back. Maybe it belongs there?

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for watching! I don't think this specific watch had any gaskets, which is quite common for old dress watches. Watches intended for more sporty activities or that would say waterproof or water resistant on the case would always have case back gaskets.

[@brambijlhout7578]

Amazing watch and video

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for watching!

[@dennishall9173]

I love that watch I keep watching this video over and over again

[@geoffquickfall]

I noticed it was labelled T SWISS T and that the hands had slits in them. Any reason for not adding lume to the dial and hands? Gorgeous watch and perfect service and explanation as usual!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Geoff, thanks for that! The dial indeed is labelled T Swiss, indicating the lume is Tritium. Manufacturers did this to ensure buyers that the dial did not have Radium, given the dangers that had become known about Radium. The dial has lume dots at the outer end of the hour markers, but the lume has degraded and darkened quite a bit so it isn't really all that visible. The same goes for the hands, they are also lume-filled but quite dark and degraded.

[@aurelnegrea7617]

Just magic hands Incredibil. Would like to buy that watch …. Nice.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks a lot Aurel! This one is unfortunately not for sale but we might get others like it 😉

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Nice job.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks!

[@georgeliquor2931]

Beautiful watch by the way

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks, George! 👍

[@jenilocke8255]

Beautiful watch! Was that dial enamelled? It was in fantastic condition.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Jeni! The dial wasn't enamelled, but it has a glossy finish resembling it a bit. And it absolutely looks stunning 😍

[@ronl7131]

Good restoration

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Ron! More to come, so stay tuned :)

[@stevemoreno6241]

Another great video with interesting history and banter. This is an attractive watch with desirable complications. There are a few of them on eBay currently seeing for between $200-$400. But as it's only a 33mm case it would look too small on my wrist. I have a current 40mm Longines with similar complications I wear often in my rotation.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Steve! It's a wonderful watch indeed. I think you might be looking at a slightly different model then, this one is 34mm, 42mm lug to lug, so it wears very nicely. They will go for about $1500 even on eBay when in good condition. If you see one for $200-400 you should snap it up right away (or better yet, tell me where they are) 😉 40mm is certainly a bit more in line with today's fashion, and Longines makes some fantastic pieces. Even though they don't make their own movements anymore, they have managed to maintain much of their design language from way back when, and that's really nice to see.

[@golden.lights.twinkle2329]

Most of my watches are in the 30-35mm case size. I don't understand the obsession with larger and heavier watches. In fact if I find the men's model too large I sometimes buy the ladies model to get the smaller size I prefer.

[@griffn14]

If I had this watch I'd stare at it constantly like people do with the phones now haha. It is a stunner alright.

[@VintageWatchServices]

👍It's a beauty alright and maybe more worthwhile watching than one's Facebook feed...

[@Patriot-rising]

Oh and by the way. I am not super offended. You do not know everyone's history and where their sense of humor is. I know you were talking about the Zodiac killer. And I know it shouldn't have bothered me. It was just visions raced through my head again. So please I want you to know you and Mark are my favorite watch channels. I love and respect your teachings. And I love mechanical watches. Unless they are replicas.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks a lot! There will actually be a replica coming up in a few days but with a bit of a twist... 😎

[@jimmy2boats]

great stuff, he has the best little jokes

[@hungdohoangminh2064]

I have the same watch. I wish you could take care of my watch as well. What a service!

[@mattobrien3346]

Beautiful watch and movement. Can I ask - is there any cheat to know where each wheel (cog) goes and in which order? I always have trouble with this (normally take lots of pictures)

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Matt, taking a lot of pictures is a very good thing 👍 Sometimes it can be difficult to separate between the wheels even for experience watchmakers, so don't feel bad about that :) In general, the wheels will get smaller ad lighter towards the balance wheel, with smaller pivots, but a couple of the wheels can still look very similar. The most important thing is to be very careful when trying the wheels if you're unsure which one fits where, so you don't break or damage anything.

[@stephencrowsen8537]

I wasn't sure, but it sounded like you equated "Most popular watch in 3/4 of the world" with New Zealand, where I live. I'm afraid that is too cryptic for me. I don't recall Zodiac being held in special regard here.

[@VintageWatchServices]

I don't quite remember exactly what I said, but that slogan was based on the Zodiac Sea Wolf being a very popular diver's watch, as the sea covers about 3/4 of the world :)

[@markiangooley]

I thought my radio-sync Citizen was weird for those toothpick pushers. I guess it’s not.

[@VintageWatchServices]

They sure do

[@montres1]

Great video ! It happens that I own the exact same watch (though in stainless steel rather than gold plated), which suddenly stopped ! And guess what the movement screw had ended into the balance wheel ! Regarding the winding, interestingly enough my watch is also quite hard to wind, so it seems that these 2 issues are quite common on Zodiac's Triple calendars. Did your fix on the crown tube (small polishing + silicone) work well ? Is the watch now easier to wind ? I will definitely keep this video in my favourites to watch it again the day it goes to service ! Thanks again !

[@VintageWatchServices]

Cleaning/polishing the crown tube and a touch of silicone does help indeed, but heavy winding is very common on vintage watches, as there simply is a bit of wear in the automatic works. For an automatic watch it is always better to let it wind through the automatic works rather than with the crown 👍

[@montres1]

@@VintageWatchServices Good to know thanks, I tend to privilege the crown winding particularly when I alternate watches and re-put it on my wrist. I will avoid it from now on !

[@Lemminjoose]

This exact watch, color combo and all, is my all-time grail watch.

[@philiplim2718]

Just wonder how to reach out to you for watch repair?

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Philip, I have to be very protective of my time, but if you have a watch that could be interesting for the channel, you can email me at [e-mail]

[@josefinoflores6562]

Nice work 👍😎

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks! More to come, so stay tuned :)

[@angeloristori5301]

I LOVE THE ZODIAC TRPLE CALENDAR MOONPHASES, WERE CAN I BAY ONE SECOND HAND???

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Angelo, thanks for watching! The best place to buy watches like these would be Chrono24 or eBay, but there are also lots of other places you can buy old watches. They're not so easy to come by, so good luck!

[@joeskeptical4762]

*_The movement reminds me of a Rolex 3035, seen from the automatic works side._*

[@VintageWatchServices]

Spot on, Joe! It's a beautiful movement and a high grade one to boot 👍

[@jimksa67]

HA HA THE DISHES BATTLE LOL

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁

[@chrisclews4162]

Thankyou, great vid

[@VintageWatchServices]

Glad you enjoyed it, Chris! More to come today, so stay tuned :)

[@thomaseisen304]

Hello Vintage Watch Service , got a problem and maybe you can give me an advice that helps me out . I got a Tissot P50 Automatic (made somewhere around 2000) and it doesn't wind up anymore , the problem is that can't open the case that suposed to open with a knife but I'm not sure because I have not seen such slots before on any other watch . Is there any tool or trick to open the case I don't wanna ruin it.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Thomas, thanks for watching and for your question! I've never worked on the P50 myself but from the pictures I've seen it looks like a standard snap-on case back. It seems to have a couple of big grooves you can put your case opening tool into and pry it open with. If you search for Tissot P50 on KZbin you should find some videos where they open it up. In general a watch will always give you a clue on how it should be opened. If it has some type of notches around the rim it's a screw-down, if there is a crack between the case back and the case it is a snap-on.

[@thomaseisen304]

@@VintageWatchServices thank you so much !

[@thomaseisen304]

Hello @Vintage Watch Services here is an update to my watch ...first I was wrong because of my bad eyes I couldn't see the very small letters on the dial ...so it is a Tissot PR50 automatic , and I bought tools for the case and I'm pretty sure by now that these slots are made for a special tool because I tried everything but it won't budge at all ... I don't know where I go from here but I don't wanna give up on it because I love that thing ... my last hope is a neighbour said he knows a good shop they know personaly and maybe they can help me out ...I shall see ! I'm still very grateful because you where the only one who answered me so big thanks to you mate ! Have a good one !!!

[@tesmith47]

I had a seawolf in1968

[@VintageWatchServices]

Wow, very nice! I suppose you don't still have it?

[@Patriot-rising]

I want this watch!!! Oh and being a guy who actually does dive ( reason for my Rolex Deep-Sea which is over kill obviously ) and I have well let's not talk about the second field for a Zodiac Sea Wolf which btw I personally didn't care for your sense of humor ( humour) on that one to be honest . Sorry my military history isn't something I find humorous and I am still trying to come to grips with it all.. But to remain civil and try and throw some humor back , my wife never does the dishes. The dishwasher does. But ny wife does make sure they are all rinsed clean. And we do obey... I actually own a Sea Wolf which btw isn't a great dive watch. Zodiac really kinda sucks since Fossil took them over. I however do also own a Desert Hawk ( which I like ) even though it is a quartz. I own a a Zodiac Calame and a limited edition all black Oceanaire which is controversial when it comes to the origins of the movement. I have a old Sea Wolf which is no longer running and I do not care. I hate that watch. But the watch you are working on is awesome!!!! I would love to have that watch!

[@VintageWatchServices]

It's a real beauty. The owner wouldn't part with it for the world, I think :) And yes, the quality of Zodiac has taken a big hit apparently, which is really sad for the brand 😔

[@madmanmechanic8847]

I love the restoration but why did you not polish the case and the backing? That is weird

[@VintageWatchServices]

The case is gold plated, and polishing it is quite risky. It's also in original and very fine condition, and in general you want to preserve originality as much as possible for vintage watches. That makes them both more valuable and more attractive to most vintage collectors.

[@madmanmechanic8847]

@@VintageWatchServices Ok that makes sense but I have seen other builders with very old watches polish the case on KZbin . i think its like old cars ,one restorer will take the original paint and buff it out and wax it to preserve it and another will shoot a clear over it and another will leave it alone and just clean it. Thanks for the reply

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

I looked for one of these and found one. NOT cheap... A real beauty.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Robert, it's a real beauty for sure and yes, quite expensive!

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

@@VintageWatchServices They were not that bad. I found a black one on Chrono in steel that was 1400.00 and a creme one that needed work for about that. That's not absurd by any means. But they are not 400.00 either. If I could find one for that with some issues it would be a keeper. As it stands i am about to pull the trigger on a Ball M Marvelight at the moment. Perhaps at the beginning of the year.

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@@NitroModelsAndComics So many watches, so little time... 😁

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

@@VintageWatchServices I have more time than money at this moment.

[@VintageWatchServices]

There are a lot of very nice vintage watches that wouldn't cost too much, and it's also better to build your collection without haste 👍

[@eshwarrao7358]

Probably the blackest dial i saw so far.. great video and nice looking watch - thanks for the video and listen to wife to be out of trouble -:)

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@greggc.touftree5936]

My father actually had a Zodiac Astrographic. Very gothic looking watch and ran surprisingly poorly. The other odd thing is the bracelet was absolutely atrocious. For some reason the links would not fold under each other when unclasp, so when placing it on the desk it would have to be sideways, and was ridiculously stiff. Ended up selling it. For as cool as the clear disc seconds "hand" is, it only had a 2892 in it, so not worth keeping around. I've very surprised at the style of this one as it neither matches the Astrographic nor other Zodiacs that are readily available around the internet. Oh, I should add that it's also quite nicer.

[@VintageWatchServices]

That's sad to hear, was it a new watch? The original would not have had a 2892 inside it, and Zodiac made very high quality watches back in the day.

[@tigergelb6560]

How can you remember the assembling order? So complicated mechanic watch.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Tiger, thanks for watching! There is actually a very clear logic in how mechanical watches work, so once you internalize that logic it's much easier. Until then, a lot of photos do help 😂

[@EddyTeetree]

-3-+1 on a vintage complication WOW. I’m looking for a Zodiac!!!!👍 You have a fun approach to this. Are there any watches you know of that have that moon phase and >100m water resistance esp Zodiac. Blancpain does a Fiffty Fathoms Bathyscaphe with this complication however it is well out of my price range.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for watching, Eddie! And yes, this is a real beauty :) Moonphase watches are in general dress watches -> dress watches are worn with nice clothes-> nice clothes generally aren't suitable for diving 😁 So a 10ATM+ water resistance watch that also has moonphase is a bit of a collision between purposes. This holds true for vintage watches, but nowadays the machining accuracy is higher than it was half a century ago, so for modern watches it's not uncommon to find a 10ATM+ dress watch.

[@jarleandersen6717]

Nydelig jobb 👍

[@VintageWatchServices]

Takk skal du ha, Jarle!

[@picklecrd]

Was the body part the top of your head?

[@VintageWatchServices]

It was my nose :)

[@picklecrd]

@@VintageWatchServices that was going to be my second guess😃

[@tigdogsbody]

Hello, Sir. What watch do you wear?

[@VintageWatchServices]

A lot of different ones! You can see them here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g36mo3maeamHpbs and here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoLIY2ada7mcsKs :)

[@tigdogsbody]

@@VintageWatchServices Goodness, thank you, Sir.

[@toboldygo5823]

Everybody tried to correct you from your parents to your wife seems to me you turned out to be a pretty decent person. 🤪 You seem to have a good announcers Voice😌👍🏻

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks a lot, that's very nice of you :) Corrections from your surroundings is one of the few constants in life 😉

[@MrKenny777]

Arthur Leigh Allen was a suspect but his dna didn't match that taken from Zodiac letters. He did enjoy scuba diving. I love these triple date watches but vintage ones are very expensive. Might have to go for a modern Chinese version!

[@VintageWatchServices]

So he was a suspect partially because he wore a Zodiac? Modern ones are fine, but there's nothing like a vintage beauty like this :)

[@mywatchventure8875]

Great Vid ,

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks!

[@chronoboat11]

The moon phase DOES flip over you can see it move at approximately 20 seconds. Look the star to the left of the moon starts to disappear........by 39 seconds the star to the left completely disappeared.

[@VintageWatchServices]

You have sharp eyes! Yes, the moonphase actually did work, but the customer said it didn't so I quoted that in the voice-over.

[@jamesniazi6561]

AND that’s magic

[@VintageWatchServices]

Black magic! 😂 Thanks so much for watching, James :)

[@jamesniazi6561]

@@VintageWatchServices You make watch repairing look so easy.

[@clivewiddall3430]

I have heard/read some ware that Zodiac changed there logo as a result of the Zodiac killer. Whether it’s an urban myth or not I do not know.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Clive, thanks for watching! I think that's a bit of an urban myth, their logo has been basically unchanged since the beginning. And if you look at the Zodiac killer's actual letters, there's nothing really connecting the symbol he drew with the Zodiac brand other than both of them resembling crosshairs. Would be interesting to really know though 😁

[@upup329]

Well done :-)

[@VintageWatchServices]

Many thanks!

[@Александр-ххх-з3з]

Отличная работа и отличные часы, я даже не слышал что такая марка есть?!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Спасибо, Александр! В свое время компания Zodiac производила множество отличных часов, но они исчезли во время кварцевого кризиса. Бренд был перезапущен несколько лет назад как часть группы Fossil, и новый Sea Wolf выглядит великолепно, но, по-видимому, не совсем на том же уровне качества, как в старые времена, как мне сказали. Впрочем, вы можете найти несколько очень хороших винтажных часов Zodiac :)

[@mikesage9544]

That.......................Is a class act. Do you know who is behind the modern Zodiac? Bw Mike

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Mike, I'm afraid I don't but they seem to not be of quite the same quality as the old ones.

[@mikesage9544]

@@VintageWatchServices My old friend G.-R. L

[@etherdude]

Stian, a very nice watch with interesting complications. I couldn't tell just by looking, but does this auto-wind in both directions of rotor movement? What would be the date vintage of this watch (If you know)? Thanks again for an interesting and informative video. I am in awe of your skill with tweezers and screwdriver. So steady and knowledgeable!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Doug! When you see a watch has two reverser wheels, it's pretty much by definition bi-directional. It's not that easy to date this watch as Zodiac serial numbers aren't that easily available, but it should be from the mid 60's. And for the steadiness with tweezers and screwdrivers; it's all video editing, my friend 😉

[@paullowe2906]

Moth 12 gears ⚙

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for watching, Paul! I'm not sure I understand your comment?

[@paullowe2906]

@@VintageWatchServices sorry I meant the macnisum ok great engineering 👍

[@lablackzed]

I love mechanical watches their beautiful works of art not like the battery garbage watches of to day retired mechanical engineer .👍

[@VintageWatchServices]

Yep, fully agree. There's something very fascinating about shaping small pieces of metal into an accurate timepiece.

[@mqnwest]

The part about unmarried watchmakers and those who have been married for a few years... Lol

[@VintageWatchServices]

True story 😎

[@tesmith47]

Hey you did not calibrate and confirm the accuracy and strength

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Thomas, thanks for watching! I'm not sure I follow you here?

[@tesmith47]

@@VintageWatchServices after repair will you check the amplitude strength of the spring and the accuracy of the watch?

[@VintageWatchServices]

@@tesmith47 Hello Thomas, yes of course, it wouldn't be much of a repair if one didn't 😉 If you watch the video you will see this at around 14:30

[@tesmith47]

@@VintageWatchServices ok excellent. Keep up the good work 😃