THIS BLOWS MY MIND!!! Reacting to "Wally West vs Archie Sonic Death Battle"

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[@midekubrandio8592]

I personally think this is by far the closest death battle in the entire series. Because there’s a lot of scenarios for either to win, and Archie Sonic was actually originally going to win in this death battle until the research team found some last minute feat on Wally that made him win

[@Opheebop-Productions]

what comes second?

[@midekubrandio8592]

@@Opheebop-Productions maybe Balrog vs TJ Combo

[@SufferingSuccotash]

It wasn't even wally directly but the speed force too

[@DIEFORME173]

@@SufferingSuccotash true Wally had nothing to do with this just the speed force 😂

[@ernar8926]

@@DIEFORME173 What a dumbest comment I've read

[@helios_is_my_name]

I absolutely love how because they where both *so* absurdly fast, that the speed was kinda irrelevant for this fight. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the research, outcome or whatever, I don't think anyone can deny that's really funny.

[@arkhamknight620]

Speed is underrated, people look down open speedsters when they have the potential to become gods.

[@ALJ9000]

Nice Knockout profile

[@HeadBodyMasterPersonal]

Honestly, at this point, it's shocking when he actually HAS heard of something 🙄

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Have you heard of that planet called earth??

[@Over2978]

Idk bro, some people actually have lives

[@Picardplayz]

I mean tbh it’s hard to find anyone who knows Archie Sonic lore. I for example have memorized it all

[@cirnosnumberfan6449]

​@@Over2978Doesn't mean you aren't living under a rock.

[@gamerk316]

Yeah, people who didn't live through Archie Sonic can't comprehend how broken he was.

[@DIEFORME173]

Indeed

[@Bleeperblopper497]

Eh, he's kinda overrated, he can't actually reset the multiverse, and his fate manipulation was debunked cause he originally died in Silvers future and Mogul was actually cursed by the Ancient Walkers to always fail

[@DIEFORME173]

@@Bleeperblopper497 yeah he definitely is

[@whatsyouropiniononsawblades]

@@Bleeperblopper497 *isnt silver from the games though?*

[@xavierlehew6746]

@@whatsyouropiniononsawblades Hes in both the comics and games. Archie Silver will be in the next death battle.

[@BlazeWriter]

Boomstick with speed powers ran to Jupiter & back in the span of 2 seconds. Jupiter is nearly 550 million miles from Earth, which means, at most, he ran nearly 2 trillion mph (nearly 3,000 times the speed of light)

[@QuantumQuill455]

Yeah when they eventually do Wiz vs Boomstick this is definetly going to come up.

[@anthonycole2753]

So far we have Wiz at planet level transmutation resistance, martial arts training, firebending, ice projection/ slight cryokenesis, replicas and a huge arsenal of wespons. We've got Boomstick with a Stand and Speedforce capabilities. Seems like a massive stomp in Broomstick's favor.

[@chrismanning2888]

@@anthonycole2753 the fact boomstick only needs these 2 things to win shows how broken stands and Speedforce are

[@commentmanilikemdansc8550]

But Jupiter doesn't have a physical ground.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Can I have some of that stuff?

[@trevoryorgesen2199]

7:50 You can tell the writers had fun making that panel, seeing Sherlock Sonic, Hulk Sonic, and Spider-Sonic. 8:40 And here you will find Bat-Sonic. Also, the Seven BR was a bonus episode, with the post-fight breakdown in a separate video (a test). It's a full Death Battle, but it wasn't part of the original line-up for that season.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Yeah it’s next but I don’t count it in the win loss counter

[@droppedhero]

Archie Comics are the people who made a comic called Archie back in the 40's who most likely you seen them in the funnies in the newspapers or at a comic store. There's actually a live-action TV show that's currently on now based on the comics with a horror twist called Riverdale.

[@crcoghill]

you are assuming he read comics though in any form. XD this is the same man who never had a banana.

[@PowerStruggle555]

@@crcoghill yeah this is the same guy who watches very little. he's a running meme "I know that reference" has become his unofficial catchphrase

[@pantyosashu8137]

@@PowerStruggle555 He's a fucking test tube subject.

[@krbchris26]

I doubt he's ever been a comic store. He has suck limited knowledge on anything outside of Sports

[@omalleycaboose5937]

The horror twist of Riverdale is the writing and the dialogue

[@smugsneasel]

"What are Archie Comics? I never heard of them before" To that, I instantly and audibly went "Jesus Christ". I know you know that we have this thing going on where you wonder why I'm still surprised but that...that hurt me.

[@sethgibson5148]

I let that one slide, because I never heard of Archie comics as well. My "Jesus christ" moment was when he thought Superman was connected to the speedforce.

[@fireball1249]

@@sethgibson5148 I too have never heard of Archie Sonic, until I kept seeing that in the Comments as well as hearing Ben talk about it and all I could do is take his word for it until this Death Battle came and yeah, Archie Sonic is STUPID CRAZY. Not sure if I actually put it lightly lmao.

[@EditDeath]

Tell me about it. My head tipped sideways like a pinball machine tilting over that one. It just doesn't seem possible!

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Smug you should hold like a meeting in the comments of my videos for everyone to talk about how I hurt them with my lack of knowledge in the video

[@EditDeath]

@@theduckgoesmoo That many this time? Not sure if anyone's said yet, but Archie Comics has been around since the '40s, and is about a group of teens in small town USA. Basic comedic antics, no ongoing plot, and time in the comic didn't seem to pass the '50s. For years you could spot them displayed at every grocery store checkout counter next to the tabloids, which is probably where some of our surprise comes from. To be fair though, I haven't seen them there in a long while. Have you heard of the teen drama Riverdale? It's based on those comics, but with more of a horror vibe thrown in. Back in the 90's the company teamed with Sony to make the Archie Sonic comics. The rest is nerd history

[@Aardie_Aardwolf]

Never forget Ken Penders, and how he ruined the longest running comic series, and won due to Sega's incompetence. because of him we will never have parental characters being introduce ever outside of work arounds.

[@Velocity_YT]

I mean the guy screwed over Archie from thr start...ripping off Hulk, Batman, Spider-Man and even Reverse Flash. So it was only a matter of time...

[@MrAuthor3DS]

In case you're still confused by the finisher, Wally ran forward in time to the exact point when the Super Emerald's power on Sonic expired. As for Red Hood, he's the second Robin...who was brutally murdered by the Joker, resurrected by Ra's Al Ghul, and became a deadly vigilante.

[@cooldude2027]

Your list is chronologically right, the seven death battle is supposed to be before Winter Soldier vs. Red Hood. It wasn’t announced because it was a surprise. Something they did because they were sponsored by Amazon Prime because that death battle is based off an Amazon Prime show called “The Boys”

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Imagine buying a death battle

[@Zitsanrael1117]

That race they reference mentioned that Wally reached "trans-time velocity", which basically meant that when he raced the Cosmic Gamblers (who could teleport to any point in the universe in a literal instant) he arrived at the finish line before he even left the starting line....wrap your head around that one.

[@yugimon1208]

That just sounds like time travel with extra steps

[@themustardman219]

@@yugimon1208 it is

[@arkhamknight620]

With the help of other speedsters and every human in the planet combined, yes.

[@thirddegree1017]

If you're still confused about the end of the fight, Wally time travelled to the moment Sonic's super form ran out of gas. Also, Winter Soldier VS Red Hood is live-action.

[@4everRageHFC]

the thing is how did he know it would run out? Also, why wouldn't Sonic follow him into the future if he vanished or ran off before his eyes?

[@thirddegree1017]

@@4everRageHFC I think he knew it would run out because Sonic said he's invincible WHILE he's in that form, implying that he won't be in it indefinitely. As for why Sonic didn't follow, his time travel abilities don't have the level of control or precision that Wally's does. Even if he knew he was time traveling, he had no way of knowing whether he was going backwards or forwards in time.

[@easyscout8369]

Let's be honest. As amazing and stupidily insane as both Speed Force and Wally is. And Archie fans should know what I'm talking about. There's only one reason Archie Sonic lost... *WALLY NEVER MENTIONED HIS LIMITS*

[@magolord2820]

LIMIT!? I'VE GOT YOUR LIMIT RIGHT HERE!

[@supermanprime9596]

Even though Archie Sonic also has a limit. Wally West beats him with high difficulty fight me.

[@arkhamknight620]

@@supermanprime9596 Wally West gets beaten, his hax isn't potent enough.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@arkhamknight620 Except his hax IS potent enough.

[@arkhamknight620]

@@supermanprime9596 Explain then.

[@asherablader7290]

Red hood is a Robin that died then came back to life and wanted revenge against Joker for killing him and batman for not killing Joker and he now uses guns.

[@supermanprime9596]

Definitely one of your best death battle reactions so far. Loved it from start to end.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I WAS EXCITED FOR SPEED Thanks for watching though!

[@HB-fq9nn]

Fun fact: Those checkered planets are actually the bonus levels from old Sonic games.

[@droppedhero]

I was a huge Archie Sonic fan too lol I grew up reading those comics. From the good to the terrible to the Great.

[@crcoghill]

one of the coolest things i saw Wally do was from the Justice League series where, in a parallel universe where the League is corrupt and Wally died kidnap our Wally, to get out of a restraint prison built for him he made he's heart race so hard it made it look like he flat lined on a monitor. that Batman thought they lost him and when uncuffing to check on him got punched by him. The Speed Force is broken.

[@fourthhorsemendeath218]

As soon as you started this series I had a feeling you'd love this episode.

[@mitchellmurray5892]

The key thing to understand about this match up - and they even admit this in the Q & A - is that so much of their feats/powers come down to interpretation; After all, you can't exactly quantify someone outrunning death or going faster than the multiversal, omnipresent concept of kinetic energy itself. By the same logic, you also can't rational explain someone getting launched almost 1 million light years away by an imploding black hole (even though black holes are ALREADY imploding, so there shouldn't be any external force involved, and it's so beyond any of Sonic's other durability feats in base form). The interpretative analysis, though, does makes sense to me because both of these characters are broken AF, and it would be very easy to change some points and create an argument for Archie Sonic.

[@Bleeperblopper497]

I've seen lots of good debunks on Archie Sonic tho and his feats are wanked tbh

[@intotheindievods8821]

I would recommend checking out the Crossover Colosseum's episode on Paper Mario vs Archie Sonic, as he does a better explanation of Archie Sonic and the battle is just quite fun to watch

[@ILikeCHEEZ9]

This fight is literally what we did as kids "I win infinity" "But I win infinity times infinity!"

[@arkhamknight620]

Yeah, except Sonic is infinity times infinity and Flash is infinity.

[@HB-fq9nn]

@@arkhamknight620 But Wally West is Infinity times Infinity too.

[@allone1035]

@@arkhamknight620 You think Sonic is infinity but it was me Barry!

[@arkhamknight620]

@@HB-fq9nn But Sonic is infinity times infinity times infinity times infinity times infinity, ok you know what, times TRASFINITE MATHEMATICS.

[@nebiyuermeyas-tulu2430]

@@arkhamknight620 As is Wally. Your biased point?

[@hallofguns8174]

I knew you would love this episode, These two are the pinnacle of speed.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

My idols

[@SalaComMander]

As a lifelong Sonic fan, let me tell you... Nobody is faster than a Flash, and no Flash is faster than Wally Fucking West. Wally West is, without question, the fastest character in fictional history.

[@DIEFORME173]

Actually both are equal in speed

[@SalaComMander]

@@DIEFORME173 Except they're not. They may both have impossible feats of speed that are incalculable and therefor infinite, not all infinities are equal.

[@DIEFORME173]

@@SalaComMander ok so how do you know flash is faster the only way he’d be faster is if he steal speed from sonic

[@Angel-vl1kq]

Nah fam, watch and learn. Fargo the morgo: can run just a tiny bit faster than any flash, no matter the circumstances. Done (I should be a DC writer or smth)

[@Victor_Nova_56]

The appearant Mega Man cameo was the result of a crossover event of mainly Archie Sonic and Archie's Mega Man comic.

[@Victor_Nova_56]

I believe it was called "Worlds Collide." It was a massive 12-part comic event, published between 3 of Archie comics' series(Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic Universe, and Mega Man). Other people in the crossover included a Sonic Boom character, numerous characters from the Mega Man X Era, and even Street Fighter, since both it and Mega Man are owned by Capcom.

[@chaosshadic40]

@@Victor_Nova_56 Yup Worlds Collide and Worlds Unite

[@filipvadas7602]

Honestly, this battle really proved that the Speed Force is one of the most overpowered bullshit things in fiction You'd frankly have an easier time listing what it CAN'T do

[@arkhamknight620]

It is plenty bullshit, hell I believe in a hyperversal speed force. However, the chaos force and chaos energy in general is still superior.

[@krbchris26]

What the speed force can't do, #1: Save Marriages

[@HB-fq9nn]

@@arkhamknight620 How? It's equally bullshit. "Wish powers" "Time stops" "Invincibility"

[@supermanprime9596]

@@arkhamknight620 Nope, the chaos force isn’t superior. Nor is chaos energy.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@HB-fq9nn Wally can literally do all of those things too imao.

[@DieselWeasel]

Speaking of ones you've skipped/missed, I don't think you've done the Ratchet & Clank vs. Jak & Daxter battle, have you? It's a fairly old one.

[@sethgibson5148]

He plans to play the games at some point.

[@juliannavarretealvarez3070]

I mean he can still react to that death battle do since It only covers the events of the first Ratchet and Clank game up till A crack in time and i dont expect him to play all of the games witch aré a lot.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I have not actually

[@israelpena2446]

The Seven Battle Royale is a bonus episode in Season 7. It's split into two videos: the pre-analysis and the animated fight and the post-analysis.

[@hillrp1]

Sonic moved while time was still meaning his speed was infinite. Wally out sped teleportation, meaning his speed was infinite, but possibly in a slightly different way? If we say they are equivalent and transferable feats, then I can't think of anyone who could reliably beat Wally. But if we say that we can't equate them and they are comparable feats managed in different ways, then perhaps someone who could stop time could threaten Wally. It would have to be a powerful enough effect that it even reaches into 'the fourth dimension' etc. and can by turned on instantaneously so that Wally can't react to it. I don't know who that would be, but maybe Mister Myxzptlk could try it? He's a being whose powers essentially come from being a 5th dimensional being who can manipulate our reality in the same way that you or I could fold paper like origami. Maybe being a 5th dimensional being means he can even manipulate the 'fourth dimension' that Wally hides in? But that's a stretch predicated on a guess all reliant on an assumption. So... take that with a mountain of salt. My only other thought would be a being powerful enough to do what the Sonic villain said and say, "Okay, you're super fast and powerful, but I'm immortal, I can just withstand and outlive you"

[@Bleeperblopper497]

I still think that Time Stop feat is just an immunity feat and not a speed feat cause Base Sonic still gets hit by slower beings so it's not consistent enough, same goes for any of Sonics "immeasurable" speed feats, not consistent enough and there are arguments to debunk them

[@machtenverl5916]

@@Bleeperblopper497 does that really matter when power scaling debates are all about characters at their best?

[@PowerStruggle555]

"whats with their heads" thats....from the movie coneheads (which was based on the saturday night live sketch) about aliens with.....weird shaped heads that get stranded on earth

[@cooldude2027]

I’ve been wanting you to react to this since I saw your reaction to Flash vs. Quicksilver.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

That still might be my favorite death battle from the analytic part

[@communitygamer117]

Classification of speeds beyond finite speeds: *Mainly for Kyle* *Infinite Speed: Being able to move an infinite distance in finite amount of time.* *Inaccessible Speed: Being able to travel any distance in zero time.* This is similar to teleportation but through sheer movement, it'd essentially look like teleporting from an outside perspective. *Immeasurable Speed: Being to move beyond linear time or traveling through time with sheer movement speed.* Some this fast would be to arrive before they left. *Irrelevant Speed: Simply being beyond the literal concept of speed. Either through transcending the specific concept or transcending distance and direction.* Someone this fast isn't really "traveling" but simply *exist* where they need to be when they want to be there. Now typically all Flash characters and mid to high tier speedsters, especially in DC are actually Immeasurable speed. Wally and Barry are actually Irelevant Speed. They did actually mention the most impressive speed feats, probably because they didn't realize they were speed feats. Regardless Wally stomps, also Archie Sonic is Immeasurable speed. Oh and you can obviously be slower or faster someone else within a individual tier.

[@cybersonic8472]

So the battle takes place on the 2 different multiverse roads from each property. As for what ARCHIE comics is, it's a comic company that mostly does teen drama comics and some licensed comics like sonic. What makes ARCHIE unique is they sale to grocery stores so unlike regular comics that you have to go to a book store or comic shop you could pickup ARCHIE on your way through checkout. ARCHIE sonic comics were to be a continuation of the sonic cartoons of the 90s but Sega gave little oversight back then and the book whent ludicrous with its storyline, original characters and love triangles but it also took a lot of inspiration from flash comics basically giving sonic as a speedsters any powers that other speedsters had in DC and Marvel

[@fakeadamsandler9180]

The Seven Battle Royale wasn't initially planned for Season 7 as it was a surprise and sponsored by Amazon Prime to promote the second season of "The Boys." By the way, if you react to that episode, it's a two-parter, one carrying the fight and pre-analysis, the second with just the post-analysis.

[@PowerStruggle555]

for a little bit there was a death battle race series. theyd take 4 famous cars and pit them in a death race (a race with no rules...including killing). first episode was battle of the batmobiles 66, keaton, tumbler (batman begins) and I forgot the 4th with each batman driving their batmobiles. theyve had a race between sentient cars, etc

[@BlazeWriter]

Winter Soldier VS Red Hood is the 2nd live action Death Battle they’ve done. The production quality took a step up from Nightwing VS Daredevil.

[@haku8135]

Imaginary Axis has a few videos about the Flash, including which Flash is the fastest. They're very interesting, and all about speed.

[@CyberDalek17]

This battle doesn't really sell the speed of these characters when they're moving on what ever the mobius strip was supposed to be. The previous one with flash and quicksilver did better in that regard by having them actually race to places in the real world so we can get a better grasp at how fast they are. It isn't until a future death battle where they best capture the blinding speed of a Flash, and Y'all know what I'm talking about

[@acrux1918]

*I'm sorry... Was that important?*

[@CyberDalek17]

@@acrux1918 I see what you did there How Fun 💥

[@chrismanning2888]

@@CyberDalek17 *It Was Me Barry*

[@CyberDalek17]

@@chrismanning2888 Prepare For DIVINE JUSTICE HAHA

[@ernar8926]

@@CyberDalek17 Word of loser huh

[@MarcMagma]

Finally! I've been waiting for this since you mentioned that you like fast characters BTW, since you don't know much about the brilliance that is the Archie Sonic Comics (it's my favorite piece of Sonic media to this day), could you react to "What the HELL were the Sonic Archie Comics" by HezuNeutral and/or "A Farewell to the Sonic Comic (1992-2017)" by Cybershell?

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I LOVE speed characters

[@supermanprime9596]

Spider Pidge (a guy with a good amount of knowledge on both characters), provided good evidence for why this Death Battle is accurate.

[@arkhamknight620]

Yeah and he got debunked.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@arkhamknight620 Yeah and he debunked everyone who debunked him back.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@arkhamknight620 Also stop liking yourself that’s literally calling for help imao.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@arkhamknight620 Since you’re pretty much a biased Sonic fanboy, debating you is pretty much worthless. I literally see you nearly everywhere hyping up Archie Sonic and Game Sonic as if they are the strongest characters in existence. You also clearly won’t believe Spider Pidge debunked the people who debunked him back even though he literally did. Don’t even ask why you can’t find those debunks as there hidden. Why? From biased Sonic fanboys who hype him up too much.

[@arkhamknight620]

@@supermanprime9596 "Biased Sonic fanboys" I like how when guys like you complain about us like that, we aren't even being toxic. Yeah like I never seen Spider ever debunk back? Where is that?

[@wingedbluj1674]

This speedy song is called Way Past Flash

[@felixjoblon2230]

Just one precision, sonic transformation don't really have time limit but powerlimit , he generate and store chaos energy but if he burn throught his tank faster then he generate it he turn back (in the game sonic forces for exemple, when he transforme into supersonic he start burning rings and if he is out of rings he turn back but we can extend the transformed time by collecting more rings before the end) also in the anime sonic x, he was shown to stay in super sonic form for days (maybe weeks) and only turned back because he scattered his chaos emeralds to prevent them being stollen by a stronger opponent (it took both super sonic and super shadow teaming up to beat him).

[@potatosalad3655]

They nerfed both of em a lot Both of em are technically Invincible to eachother

[@supermanprime9596]

Not really.

[@ernar8926]

If then it would be draw. But Flash won. So you know who is God of Speed

[@supermanprime9596]

@@ernar8926 Nope, Barry Allen stomps.

[@machtenverl5916]

@@supermanprime9596 Cap

[@supermanprime9596]

@@machtenverl5916 *Facts

[@c1oudrx]

For a while before this deathbattle came out, no one knew who could actually beat the flash, archie sonic was everyone's only hope that a character can come close to beating the flash both in fight and race

[@theduckgoesmoo]

So flash is the best? Okay that’s fine with me

[@DIEFORME173]

Actually Archie can beat the flash but flash has easier win cons

[@c1oudrx]

@@DIEFORME173 yeah its why I said archie was the closest one to actually being able to beat the flash but after this deathbattle everyone lost hope for the flash to be beaten

[@DIEFORME173]

@@c1oudrx yeah sadly I think it’s best not to do a flash matchup in death battle anymore we all know who’s gonna win in the end 🤷

[@c1oudrx]

@@DIEFORME173 yeah sadly

[@Robot_972]

Hey, if you enjoyed this fight you should watch Crossover Colosseum's newest episode: Archie Sonic vs Paper Mario. The episode doesn't put the characters nearly as high stat-wise as Death Battle, but the episode and especially the animation were made with a lot of love and they're an absolute treat to watch!

[@daysand123]

The 7 Battle Royale is an Amazon sponsored Death Battle to promote the second season of their comic based show called The Boys.

[@AkumaTh]

The Seven Battle Royal is a paid Episode sponsored by Amazon for their "The Boys" Series. Its basically a bonuis episode where they have the main characters fight each other to see who wins.

[@Starshock1995]

If you liked Nightwing vs Daredevil, you're gonna love the next fight. Winter Soldier vs Red Hood is their second ever live action episode, made by the same team as the first one, and blows it out of the water in every way. I mean, I think the research presentation is pretty bad, but the battle itself is gonna be a treat.

[@azurewriter8347]

Honestly, Wally West is probably the most powerful character in the entirety of Death Battle. With immense reality warping abilities and literally immeasurable speed, no other Death Battle character can keep up except for fellow Flash characters and maybe Doctor Fate. Regarding who Red Hood is, he's only one of the coolest Batman characters in my opinion. Think Nightwing from Season 5, slap guns and a cooler costume onto him, add a hint of crazy, and you have Red Hood.

[@BaithNa]

You forgot about their ultimate weapon, The Mask.

[@Velocity_YT]

I think Thawne could match him...

[@azurewriter8347]

@@Velocity_YT fellow flash character

[@gameuniverse5973]

Reverse flash might be able too match him but wally is regarded one of the fastest of flashes

[@restaurantworried8031]

Most powerfull na? popeye and chuck noris and Sega are all mire powerful than him.

[@ahedjehad8514]

i agree that this is the fastest fight they've done. i'm still waiting for the strongest fight. :) not sure if they've done that one already. :) but yes, this fight was insane. imagine someone running so fast, reality doesn't have a word to explain how fast they ran. that's the "the greatest race" comic comes down to. that's where the feat comes from. Wally challenged a group of intergalactic beings in a race. they told him that they'll win because they can teleport, and Wally took them up on the race offer, and won. and if he'd lose, that universe would disappear. fun fact about that comic: there's a part there where Wally speeds past his girl, and goes: "i could kiss her now, but considering how fast i'm going, she'd explode." :)

[@DIEFORME173]

Actually goku black vs reverse flash is faster but yeah

[@mecha64zilla14]

The seven battle royale is ad/promotion for the Amazon prime series THE BOYS season 2

[@jackstar7204]

There is one speedster who could beat Wally. You'll meet him next season.

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

there's also Cheetah who tends to rip Flashes apart long before they're ever able reach reality-breaking speeds.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@anthonyrodriguez8788 Nice joke dude. Barry, Bart, and Wally all have destroyed Cheetah plenty of times in the comics.

[@arkhamknight620]

@@supermanprime9596 *Comics. Yeah and when Cheetah humiliated Flash, he wasn't running or amped by the speed force. Meaning regular Flash is superhuman.

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

@@supermanprime9596 they really haven't, Cheeath's humiliated both flashes every time they fought, the only time Cheeath ever lost to a Flash was when she was trying to molest Wally, in that fight it was pretty clear that she could've killed him at any point she wanted up until the very end.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@anthonyrodriguez8788 Nice joke dude. Wally and Barry have beaten Cheetah plenty of times. Not to mention they were often holding back. Stop acting like Cheetah is close to being universal or complex multiversal+. That’s just trash. Edit: It’s the Bat! That’s an outlier. In that case, I’ll just bring up Sonic getting knocked out by the dumbbells.

[@isaacmachado1238]

I have not hit play yet. I am so excited for this, I've been wait for this Death Battle! YOU LIKE SPEED? YOU GON SEE SOME SPEED!!!⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I DO LIKE SPEED

[@oussamalag3253]

Yeah these two are up there as one of the op characters and probably also the fastest

[@ryan_cuadravoiceoverwork2516]

I’ve been waiting for your reaction to this video. Gotta say after seeing it, Wally West instantly became my favorite Flash. (No disrespect to Barry, as he is a founding member of the JL) And I grew to like Archie’s version of Sonic more then the games. Probably cause he’s not as arrogant like his game counterpart. Plus he’s more into a love interest, and Archie’s version of Eggman is a lot more evil. And one last part Archie’s Sonic has tons of more interesting characters. Love your reaction, especially since your Speed loving side for characters.

[@yukithemonsterguardian2337]

Wait until you see Reverse Flash vs. Goku Black it gets even crazier because it involves time travel

[@krbchris26]

I know it probably wouldn't happen. But if these have made you interested in comics at all. There is a great series called Atop the 4th Wall. It's a comic review show created by Linkara, long time collaborator and friend of both the Nostalgia Critic and Team Four Star. While you might be lost when it comes to his many MANY references. He has two series I think would be good for you. Secret Origins Month, where he reviews the first appearance of major comic characters like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, etc. And Event Comics month, where he covers various event comics (comics with a multi-issue story, large cross-overs, tie in issues in other books, and a cast of dozens to even hundreds of characters) I think it would help teach you about some important characters and their influence but also teach you more about comics in general.

[@phillipjarvis5754]

*What just happened? 1* Wally traveled to the moment Sonic's form wore off and he became vulnerable again. 2* Boomstick's drink was laced with science.

[@PowerStruggle555]

the seven are a group of super beings from the show "The Boys" which basically is what if the justice league were a bunch of jerks, stereotypical atheletes, celebrtiies aka....only care about themselves. the battle royal was in conjuction to season 2 premiering. it was official and unofficial. if you dont like spoilers. dont need to see it. the show has 2 seasons on amazon prime

[@cypher_30]

What are Archie Comics I never heard of them before- ok seriously now I need to know where you raised in a convent or recently escaped from a cult because at this point am at a loss for words.

[@umbrella3235]

Dang, I'm early. Well, earlier than Patreon anyway.

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

Now they did forget that the ultimate sonic fusion (yep, they also did character fusion before dragonball) but i am not sure if that would do a whole lot, although it would remove the time factor as long as he was willing to become permanently fused with the souls of his friends… but i still dont know, one of the closest match ups ever for sure. Though the boon sonic gained from the golden rings *technically made him invulnerable to damage, except that he can still be KOd… so unless the flash figured out a way to contain sonic in a way that he could not wish himself free im not sure if he would have won… more ended up in an eternal stalemate between them…

[@chrismanning2888]

Uh he never fused at all in the Archie comics

[@Kaempfdog]

Boomstick: I bet he doesn’t have any trouble with NARBs. Duck: Huh?! Wiz: talking about the speed force Duck:….. I jest. I can’t really comment on the fight. All I can say is Blackholes are not wormholes. At least from science’s understanding. (There’s plenty of theories but no way to find out because…black hole.) When a singularity breaks you down, it forces you into absence. Light itself can’t escape, and time and space themselves are MEASURABLY warped. Especially since planets and other space debris can be broken down too. I think that’s the best way to say it. I’ll leave it at that. I’m not in a section where I can go in much detail in my studies. Right now I’m just in the shit tons of math classes part of studying astronomy.

[@codyherio6909]

Fun fact, this episode was one of the closest they have had recently. I'm talking it was a 51/49 split just barely in Flash's favor that he won. It was that close.

[@arkhamknight620]

It’s not that close if you do research on both.

[@codyherio6909]

@@arkhamknight620 well I’m not part of the research team now am I.

[@arkhamknight620]

@@codyherio6909 No, you aren’t I’m just saying in general.

[@HyperAnimationsYT]

@@arkhamknight620 Well it depends. Ben Singer (creator of Death Battle, voice of Wiz) suggests that Sonic possibly might not scale to the Super Genesis Wave, making this a stomp in Wally's favor. But if you looked to one of the researchers, Ultraguy, you would find Sonic's Chaos Control was basically on par with Wally's AP and their speeds were identical, meaning it came down to skills and abilities

[@supermanprime9596]

@@arkhamknight620 Don’t be a sonictard dude, I’ve seen your comments hyping up Archie Sonic as if he solos DC. This coming from a guy who prefers Archie Sonic over every DC speedster by the way.

[@misschieflolz1301]

The Archie comics are the ones that were written and distributed by...... Archie comics. They're their own publisher, and started the series based off Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon (known as the SATAM, not to be confused with the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog which is super meme-y tom & jerry-esque series) It had..... well.... some interesting arcs. And the whole shitshow with Ken Penders. But it was always fun to see what other pop culture references popped up. There's even a Jojo reference in there! There's also the Fleetway comics which was a separate publisher based in the UK.... completely different story line and actually had some stuff that was considerably darker than some of the stuff in the Archie universe..... but that publication isn't really well known outside of europe.

[@warpstarrogue3554]

16:37 if you're curious, Wally time travelex into the future the moment the time of ultra Sonic ran out. It's a bit confusing, but hey, when is time travel Not confusing?

[@williamts9422]

The seven Battle Royale was a paid tie-in thing they did to promote The Boys TV show It's basically a bonus episode split into two parts

[@rodrickgoldberg2324]

Okay. A lot of trivia and fun facts are coming your way, so buckle up. *The killing blow Wally hit Sonic with was him traveling through time to the moment Sonic reverted from his Ultra form. *Sonic’s death here actually had two official interpretations on the official death battle wiki (I think). The first said Wally hit him so hard he hit Sonic so hard, they erased every iteration of him across the multiverse. But at some point it got changed to Sonic reliving his entire life before being obliterated. *While Sonic is spasming through all those images, there is actually a brief moment where the poorly drawn “Sanic” meme is included. But it’s very hard to see. “Blink and you’ll miss it” if you will. *Red Hood is a DC character, and one of Batman’s many Robins. In fact, he was actually the second one ever. The connection he has with Winter Soldier is that they were bright eyed sidekicks to a super hero who then got met with a grim fate and came back with a darker, edgy personality. *The reason why Winter Soldier vs Red Hood is teased at the end of this episode, but shows up on your playlist after “The 7 battle royale” is because The 7’s fight is actually a bonus episode that was commissioned by Amazon to promote the show “The Boys” on their streaming service. Yes, you read that right. Rooster Teeth was directly PAID to make this episode. Which is actually my next piece of trivia. *The Seven Battle Royale is the first, and so far only, commercially commissioned Death Battle episode. Rooster Teeth has actually gotten offers to do this before. However, they usually turn them down because the people that want to pay them ask for them to make a specific character win. (Say what you want about them being biased, but they aren’t sell outs). The reason they went ahead with this deal is because Amazon didn’t ask for a specific character to win. They wanted the research team to do their usual thing and genuinely find the winner of an un-rigged fight. *The Seven battle royale is the first, and so far only, episode to be split into 2 parts. The pre-fight analysis and fight animation are one part, while the post fight analysis is actually it’s own video.

[@khaledkhateb8665]

took me few times to realize he went back in time before sonic was invincible

[@galfinsp7216]

Give press start to laugh a shot. In particular, the doom saga shows the base of what he’s done. (Over 2hrs.)

[@toibonniemedia1894]

To be honest with you I'm not going to get mad at you for not knowing archie, I didn't know what archie was until later 2013 when I was watching the cartoon TV series

[@williamhiegel2756]

Hey pst, over here! you should really watch the KZbin show a Side of Shrapnel

[@joki9999]

Death Race is only 6 episodes so if you do decide to react to the DB side series, I would start there. They're all funny

[@AdmiralHawkes64]

the 7 royale is the characters from the show The Boys

[@zacharyfrierson6972]

Yeah, Speed Force is so BS broken level OP that you’d literally have an easier time trying to explain what it CAN’T do.

[@slyboom2361]

heres a death battle suggestion Wolverine vs Riaden

[@chaosshadic40]

He plans to play the Metal Gear series, hence why he skipped Wolverine vs Raiden

[@DeathsHead1]

When watching this, I didn’t realize Wally ran forward in time. I had assumed he went backwards.

[@markerikson7423]

make sure to watch Death Race in order starting with batmobiles

[@sethgibson5148]

The seven battle Royale was just a little thing they did, that wasn't actually part of the death battles I believe. I didn't watch it because it wasn't on the next time, and it just looked like a debate thing that they do sometimes.

[@calebgoodman2076]

Archie Comics are what series like Riverdale and Sabrina the Teenage Witch are based on. I don’t know if that’s helps any but that’s the best I can do to explain.

[@gogetablack5384]

Archie Sonic was originally going to win the Death Battle, but before they was finished with making the episode they found out that Wally scaled to a interdenominational pane of existence in the DC multivese called The Bleed.

[@thebatmanwhorulesoverall4659]

Which is 5D, so Wally still isn't higher than Sonic who's 5D at lowball.

[@machtenverl5916]

Is there a link confirming sonic being the original winner?

[@cybersonic8472]

The magnificent 7 is The Boys Amazon prime original about what if superheroes were actually jerks. This was a paid sponsorship and not part of the planned season and they broke the battle and the analysis into 2 videos. Its basically pitting the heroes of this show against each other

[@animeguy1633]

"i love speed so much" Context is everything

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I meant what i said in every context

[@animeguy1633]

@@theduckgoesmoo 😆

[@crcoghill]

so~ the next one isn't exactly my favorites (it's not bad I'm just not a fan of live action fights) the fight of Sabrewulf and Talbain is. love me a duel of Werewolves!

[@funny9able]

Those are The Coneheads They are "Illegal" Aliens Yes Hmmm. The Seven is on a amazon show called The Boys its a really good show. Its dark, like tonally its Dark, but its good highly recommend it to you or anyone (18+) Duck Record 61W 43 L (C 2 In A Roll) Highest Streak: 5 Me: 24 W 25 L

[@umbrella3235]

Seven Battle Royale can be skipped. It was just a promotion for the Amazon series The Boys.

[@ILikeCHEEZ9]

61/43, we've been watching this long but I swear it feels like these reactions started yesterday

[@theduckgoesmoo]

It’s kinda crazy right???

[@mohaumoseki3582]

Duck It doesn't makes any sense because it's not ALLOWED to make any sense. That sentence is pretty much a nutshell to all of Comics,Anime, Cartoons, movies and videogames.

[@ghostspider2056]

Reverse Flash VS Goku Black is another you should definitely watch.

[@AngiraBlu]

“I LOVE SPEED!!! SO MUCH!!!” Great. Now stay clothed. 🤣

[@PowerStruggle555]

in a nutshell...Archie Comics are a comic publisher (like marvel and dc) that is famous for their Archie comics (a series of comics about high schoolers.....cw has a dark gritty version called "Riverdale") sonic the hedgehog is one of their properties

[@mcpics4448]

Archie sonic is like the longest written video game comic in the world That sadly got cancelled due to low sales in the end of it runs

[@smugsneasel]

Low sales? I thought it stopped because of Archie's poor handling of the legal rights thanks to the Ken Penders incident along with a flood ruining one of their offices.

[@mcpics4448]

Smug Sneasel legal right indirectly had the effect for the cancellation but the reboot really cut some of its fanbase causing the low sales If the had the regular amount then Archie and sega wouldn’t have canceled

[@thisisasupersayin376]

"I love fast characters" -Someone who has never played Sonic, THE fast character game series

[@DinoCam1795]

Again, I'm going to give you a list for each Death Battle in Season 7, not counting the episodes you already watch, like this one. So if you are going to skip any of these, this will make sure you don't skip too many. By now you should at least be aware of the episodes not included in your playlist. I hope you wrote it down. If not, WRITE IT DOWN! The Seven Battle Royale (a special irregular episode and is divided into two videos), Winter Soldier VS Red Hood, Venom VS Crona, Sabrewuld VS Jon Talbain, Red VS Blue, Batgirl VS Spider-Gwen, Sanji VS Rock Lee, and Hulk VS Broly.

[@PowerStruggle555]

red hood was the 2nd robin. he was killed by the joker, came back as a murdering vigilente

[@kisdota]

Nintendo Direct happened today. Yeah people might hate you for not knowing everything they grew up with but might be worth a react to see what you should play Nintendo wise.

[@tdog703]

Let's be real here both would be best friends and both are even in speed and both would be one powerful team and I do like both

[@ReeseChloris1]

how I see this fight. Sonic is the faster of the two. his speed is exactly what it says. speed. if it were a genuine race he would probably just surpass the Flash in most runs. how ever Wally's advantage, is BS. if something sounds vaguely related to the concept of speed it is something he can do easily. Sonic is for running, the Flash is for fighting

[@dylandrake2442]

All that hype for a death battle that lasted 0.000009ms