This Car Was Too Heavy. How did it Keep Winning?

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automobilistic

automobilistic

Күн бұрын

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@automobilistic
@automobilistic 2 ай бұрын
Check out the BMW DTM story here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jajOZ6aceM6Birs
@TvWatcher69
@TvWatcher69 22 күн бұрын
keep putting your dumbass face in the video, every time i see it i cringe.
@ukwan
@ukwan 3 ай бұрын
I love the Audi mentality of performance products.. fuck weight and weight distribution.. Power and AWD will fix everything.
@RST9413
@RST9413 3 ай бұрын
Fuck what? Front weight bias is the best thing you can get from these cars.
@indominusrex1652
@indominusrex1652 3 ай бұрын
As a famous person once said "speed and power solves everything"
@CorvusRemalius
@CorvusRemalius 2 ай бұрын
​@@indominusrex1652didn't work often, especially for Richard Hammond.
@BotulinSpikedMarzipan
@BotulinSpikedMarzipan 2 ай бұрын
​@@CorvusRemalius Skill Issue
@dopey473
@dopey473 Ай бұрын
Forza Horizon moment
@reneengelke3218
@reneengelke3218 3 ай бұрын
There is quite a lot more to it. About the high weight of the V8: Group A rules heavily favoured large displacement cars (including turbos due to the 1,4x displacement factor). The DTM tried to mitigate this by limiting tyre width and imposing a minimum weight. In 1992 the BMWs and Mercedes had to run 40kg above regulation weight whereas the Audi V8 had to run 120kg above regulation weight. Due to this there wasnt any reason for Audi to decrease the weight of the V8. About the crankshaft: The Group A rules state that the original crankshaft must be used but that it can be modified. Audi played the rules and reheated original crankshafts to then twist the rod journals into a flatplane configuration. The OMS (governing body of the DTM) checked the engine after the Zolder race and deemed it legal. After the Wunstorf race BMW complained to the OMS which once again deemed the engine legal. BMW appealed this descision and suprisingly the OMS court ruled in favor of BMW deeming the crankshaft as illegal. Just a week later at the AVUS race a report by the TÜV and OMS was published which one again deemed the crankshaft as legal. At the next race weekend at Hockenheim BMW once again protested the crankshaft and once again this protest was denied due to the report and the previous decisions. Similar to the Wunstorf race, BMW appealed this decision and suddenly the crankshaft was ruled illegal again. Audi was sick of this inconsistency and left.
@Paul_VanGo
@Paul_VanGo 3 ай бұрын
Thue that. Audi didn't cheat, they actually played the rules by the letter. And by the time the others could make the cars by the ever changing rules they themselves virtually dictated (the rule maker was literally working for Mercedes), Audi stuck to the Group A annex J rules and kept on winning. In the end they bullied Audi out of the championship. The organisation did the same when Alfa Romeo a few years later won everything too, also by playing by the ever changing Class 1 rules. Just like ousting the pulverizing Sierra earlier, the rules were changed to what especially Mercedes had in the pipeline, but they didn't expect the competition to be more creative. Until virtually everybody else left the series, ending with only Mercedes and Opel and in combination with ludicrous ticket prices, that became the end of the only real DTM championship. What came after was a farce.
@Preen59
@Preen59 3 ай бұрын
Well said. They made staged forging tooling to "adjust" the crank plane. Bloody sensational interpretation.
@andrewrollason4963
@andrewrollason4963 3 ай бұрын
" Group A rules heavily favoured large displacement cars" They did not. Mercedes abandoned the 560SEC as a viable Group A car because the rules did not allow them to put wide enough tyres on the car. The advantage that cars like the Jaguar XJS and Holden Commodore initially had, was eaten up when turbo cars of less than 2.7L could put better tyres on for the weight.
@tydawidowski6245
@tydawidowski6245 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewrollason4963true. The Sierra was the brilliant. I know Godzilla came and conquered everything but I love the Sierra. As a proud Dick Johnson and DJR it’s great that he built the fastest and best sierra’s in the world
@fuckin_fentoon6128
@fuckin_fentoon6128 3 ай бұрын
It amazes me why BMW or Mercedes didn’t use a bigger model either, imagine a M5 and a c124 out there.
@Tacko14
@Tacko14 3 ай бұрын
Stuck seems like a fun guy there. Hanging out of his window, kissing his co podium goers, hulahooping... Never knew that. Can I adopt him as my distant uncle?
@masterkamen371
@masterkamen371 3 ай бұрын
His father is Hans Stuck the senior, one of the legends of pre-WW2 Grand Prix racing. Raced with Auto Union back in the 1930s and dominated in much the same fashion. It seems that motorsport success comes natural to the family.
@kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381
@kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 3 ай бұрын
He was also the president of the DMSB (Deutscher MotorSport Bund) - the governing body for almost all automotive sports in Germany from 2012-2020. I heard in some podcasts from people that were in a team or had to do with him, that he was doing a bunch of pranks in the paddock, pits etc. so yes, he's really a funny guy.
@jaobrunelli
@jaobrunelli 3 ай бұрын
I was going to comment the same. Amazing party guy.
@nickacelvn
@nickacelvn 3 ай бұрын
Ha ha, nice comment m8 maybe we could invite him around for Christmas, get him jacked up on a cpl of bottles of bubbly and have a great time?
@bobsmith369
@bobsmith369 3 ай бұрын
@@masterkamen371 For a guy that was named after his father, the fact that he is funny is quite impressive
@driverjamescopeland
@driverjamescopeland 3 ай бұрын
I drove a '92 V8 Quattro for nearly a week, before deciding not to trade for it. I was stupid and should've kept the car. My truck was nice, and the ladies liked it much better... but that car was AMAZING for the year and mileage. At 180k miles, and having previously owned a 4000 CS, I was fearful of repair costs. Little did I know, the V8 Quattro was one of the most dependable cars Audi ever produced. I often look back and wonder how things would've been different, had I kept the V8.
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 3 ай бұрын
Imagine caring what the ladies think. What a shame.
@fabricefauconnier2358
@fabricefauconnier2358 3 ай бұрын
@driverjamescopeland Twenty years ago,I trade for an 95 S6 avant V8 with 200000 kms equipped with the same 290hp 4,2L. I used it for ten years without any engine issue. The only bad news were that spi joint, ensuring oilproofing between the gearbox and the rear shaft that had to be changed at 250000 kms. Much money for nothing..
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 2 ай бұрын
MANY were leery of the Audi reliability.....many still are....lol
@fabricefauconnier2358
@fabricefauconnier2358 2 ай бұрын
​@@ssnerd583as for mercedes benz. Buy japanese !
@fabricefauconnier2358
@fabricefauconnier2358 2 ай бұрын
@@ssnerd583 as for mercedes benz. Buy japanese
@max-si8nt
@max-si8nt 3 ай бұрын
That's not the whole truth. The "new" crankshaft used in 1992 was based on the series crankshaft. It was only bent the other way around during production. This was even accepted by the racing commissioners of the DTM and declared compliant with the rules. When the competition complained during the season, this was declared illegal and Audi got out of the DTM. This story comes from an interview with Ulrich Baretzky. He was head of racing engine development at Audi from the end of 1980 until Le Man's exit from Audi in 2016.
@Doberio
@Doberio 3 ай бұрын
Schumacher... ramming opponents off the track since the late 80's.
@yuril4102
@yuril4102 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Nakkisampyla
@Nakkisampyla 2 ай бұрын
What a crook
@SvenFelsl
@SvenFelsl 2 ай бұрын
If he wanted that backing...he had to do some favors. He wouldn't been the first.
@Riese79
@Riese79 2 ай бұрын
Senna, Prost
@patrickdabs
@patrickdabs 10 күн бұрын
Whatever man, you’re just ignorant The correct term is punting.
@LOLHICRONO
@LOLHICRONO 3 ай бұрын
0:43 ah the classic "holy shit we suck in comparison, better ban this new competition!"
@maxmustermann8167
@maxmustermann8167 3 ай бұрын
Its more like Audi was always looking for blind spots in the rules to win but never won a fair competition with similiar competitors. Its like a man would fight in olympic boxing......oh no....
@musiccer7446
@musiccer7446 3 ай бұрын
@@maxmustermann8167there is no loopholes, if you win by the rules you won fair, end of story
@Chris-sm2uj
@Chris-sm2uj 2 ай бұрын
​@@maxmustermann8167 I too like to spread misinformation on the internet. Stop believing russian propaganda. The woman won gold. Suck it up buttercup
@bloodshoot1115
@bloodshoot1115 2 ай бұрын
@@maxmustermann8167 thats the most stupid take I heard for quite a while. It was a technical revolution that was just better than the other systems
@maxmustermann8167
@maxmustermann8167 2 ай бұрын
Cheating in a Competitions ist not a revoltion. Evertythings sounds stupid to you because you are stupid.
@HaHaThatIsFunny
@HaHaThatIsFunny 3 ай бұрын
When I was in high school I got to hang out with Hurley Haywood and Hans Stuck in the Audi pits. Just me and two legends talking uninterrupted for about an hour, one of the most amazing moments of my life. They were both so humble and friendly
@ora2j251
@ora2j251 3 ай бұрын
The v8 is my favorite DTM car ever. It's probably the car i have driven the most in Assetto Corsa. It's really different than the other DTM cars, you gotta really send it.
@danhammond9967
@danhammond9967 2 ай бұрын
i noticed the same in raceroom too, but I'm not so certain of the accuracy of the AWD system for the Assetto Corsa version (as ir's essentially ripped straight from RaceRoom)
@alphakky
@alphakky 3 ай бұрын
Changing the rules to kill the champions aren't new. The ACO changed the rules for LeMans so that Ford couldn't use their mighty 7 liter motors.
@juppzmuda9725
@juppzmuda9725 Ай бұрын
Same thing in the 80s DTM, to slow the Ford Sierra down and finally force Ford out of the series completely.
@alphakky
@alphakky 3 ай бұрын
Then the A4 began to dominate. Then Audi went to IMSA and TransAm and dominated there. Until they changed the rules again. Off to LeMans and history. Don't forget Pikes Peak.
@Vazin
@Vazin 2 ай бұрын
And Audi dominated in the Wesbank Modifieds too, during the early 90's :D
@TheLuisg92
@TheLuisg92 3 ай бұрын
I still can’t believe how those cars managed to handle that well with so much weight hanging ahead of the front axle. Also, the packaging of the cooling system looks cramped. Knowing who was at the head of Audi at the time, I can only imagine the amount of time and effort that went into making these cars competitive.
@bapr3887
@bapr3887 3 ай бұрын
Because this weight was hanging ahead of the front axle. Seriously. This is perfect balance for full time awd car and this layout was making front axle grippy and rear lightweight loose. In every sucessfull full time awd car, you have not only engine but whole system ahead of the front axle, additionaly audis had their gearbox behind front axle. Thats why ultra big V8 in Audis had anyway 60/40 weight distibution, when small and light inline 3 in newest yaris GR making 62/38 weight distribution.
@BastianKH
@BastianKH 3 ай бұрын
​@@bapr3887It's not true. The RS200 proves you wrong f.e. And the others had the engines so far in front because of packaging problems, not because they wanted it like this. It's always the best for road racing to have the weight as low and close to the center as possible for a quick and easy direction change. Simple physics. And the weight distribution isn't everything, if you have the weights so far in front and the back. For straight line performance It's not so important, but for cornering.
@bapr3887
@bapr3887 3 ай бұрын
@@BastianKH 99% of video is about touring car racing, normal cars, sedans, car that you can buy and go for grocery store and hehe full size luxury cars. So you by adding midengine rockets from hell to prove your point...actually proves my point. We talk about normal cars, not midships, f1, bolids etc, and when there is nothing left and you need to take midship to beat normal car, this normal car is made by genius.
@BastianKH
@BastianKH 3 ай бұрын
@@bapr3887 They have nearly nothing to do with the road cars anymore. Have you seen them live in person? The shell is close to stock, but that's it. Look at the engine positions in E30 and 190E f.e. And tooootally different kinematics as well. You can't really compare it with road cars.
@griffins750
@griffins750 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@bapr3887Just because he’s talking about an RS200 doesn’t mean he’s wrong… Having that much weight over the front axles is known to cause understeer in road cars AND race cars… Look no further than Audi’s own Sport Quattro S1 rally car, which was a mismatch of two different chassis in order to shorten the wheel base because Audi was struggling with understeer so much… If you want an example of understeer, look at the road going variants of the Quattro, they have a well garnered reputation for understeer…
@floodo1
@floodo1 3 ай бұрын
dominating while hundreds of KILOS overweight is truly nuts
@ih8temoney
@ih8temoney 3 ай бұрын
Sad that they Banned AWD systems instead of incorporating it into the championships, like WEC does with hybrids and no hybrids, we could have had multi-class racing based on drive systems, a 4wd class and 2wd class championship.
@marcom2248
@marcom2248 3 ай бұрын
At first I thought: wait what? An American is talking about overweight German cars? But your storytelling, editing and even your pronounciation of German words is top notch. Very well done 👍
@automobilistic
@automobilistic 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! But to clarify: I am very much not American haha
@marcom2248
@marcom2248 3 ай бұрын
​@@automobilisticYupp, but I realised that later... Well done, mate...
@WoefDesign
@WoefDesign 3 ай бұрын
God those cars looked so beautiful
@non-fictionaltoughguy1208
@non-fictionaltoughguy1208 Ай бұрын
6:13 my jaw was on the floor, that slowed overtake is 🎯
@Reznor_Meeks
@Reznor_Meeks 3 ай бұрын
This channel is such a gem So impressive your work mate, I really hope you give yourself some credit Looking forward to the next, cheers !
@104thDIVTimberwolf
@104thDIVTimberwolf 3 ай бұрын
Putting Hans Stuck in the driver's seat is almost a form of cheating.
@TestDriveInline5
@TestDriveInline5 3 ай бұрын
I would say, putting Walter Röhrl into the game to cover Stuck's six, that is for sure cheating 😅
@WackorMiki
@WackorMiki 5 күн бұрын
What a great motorsport history flashback. Thanks for making it!
@berserkfuryyy6798
@berserkfuryyy6798 3 ай бұрын
Audi-"Screw you guys, I'm going home!"
@speedhunter7156
@speedhunter7156 3 ай бұрын
There was one more AWD Audi racing project in the US which again follows a similar story SCCA World Challenge where they brought S4's and RS6's to glory with a former Porsche team well until Pratt and Miller with GM backing took a Cadillac and dominated starting a trend for the car
@bapr3887
@bapr3887 3 ай бұрын
Not one more. Biggest AWD audi racing project was mighty audi 90 imsa/gto and therefore 200 lemans. You mean probably about early 00s Rs6 with Randy Pobst domination. Yep, this was again weirdly domination in very big RS6 vs small race cars. Go and watch "unfair advantage" in yt about 200 lemans/90 imsa.
@speedhunter7156
@speedhunter7156 3 ай бұрын
@@bapr3887 i know all about that story but the RS6 Project was an S4 originally
@dumbysl4w547
@dumbysl4w547 3 ай бұрын
my favorite car youtuber uploaded
@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515
@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515 3 ай бұрын
No doubt about it. For sure.
@makattak88
@makattak88 2 ай бұрын
This incomplete sentence gave me a headache.
@Squatopotamous
@Squatopotamous 3 ай бұрын
I Owned a 1990 Audi V8 and the only thing fast about that car was that it sounded like it. I just can’t wrap my head around the fact they made it a race car lol
@RST9413
@RST9413 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes some people can t be fast even with a v10. Probably your case
@kanaric
@kanaric Ай бұрын
@@RST9413 His version diidn't exactly have 400hp
@juppzmuda9725
@juppzmuda9725 Ай бұрын
The roadgoing V8 is completely gutless, thats for sure.
@lantapaukku7629
@lantapaukku7629 Ай бұрын
I wrecked two V8's, one four years ago and one month ago. I thought it could be a hobby car but not - I think due limited production runs (no spare parts) and both having automatic transmissions I dismantled them and sold parts what I could and used parts what would fit type44 (rear axle, fuel tank, doors, fenders, bonnets, seats). Finally I lifted the last car with an excavator to be recycled. I still have two type44 quattros and one c4 quattro; no v8's but plenty of R5/10&20 valve parts to run to the next century... 😀
@magruster
@magruster 3 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Audi to make a WRC comeback 😐
@kingster3835
@kingster3835 3 ай бұрын
quite possibly gonna happen when WRC goes full eletcric... (hopefully not)
@imvivalamilo
@imvivalamilo 3 ай бұрын
@@kingster3835WRC went hybrid in 2022 but they are going back to ICE soon
@ghomerhust
@ghomerhust 3 ай бұрын
they dont make anything small enough. they canceled ALL 2 door cars. so its sedans or SUVs for them. too large for going against Hyundais and Fiestas
@gamer_garage
@gamer_garage 3 ай бұрын
and also the WEC
@km6832
@km6832 3 ай бұрын
Time for that is gone. When they were making the A1 was the time they shouldve returned
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 3 ай бұрын
1/3 of the way through, enjoying the content and presentation, totally subbed.
@TheThejpmshow
@TheThejpmshow 3 ай бұрын
‘Absolute barge’ Well said 😃
@jpegjared
@jpegjared 3 ай бұрын
just found your channel, went on a binge pretty much watched as much as i can so I can process the info of race cars of the years. Thank you for the info I was lacking on cars I have a love for, I’ve learned a lot I thought I already knew. If you made car documentary based on a certain topic like JGTC or BTCC I’d watch.
@cruduxcruo1
@cruduxcruo1 3 ай бұрын
Please do a video on Australian touring cars! It would be awesome to hear you talk about Brock and the mountain
@Ottobon
@Ottobon 3 ай бұрын
always the best euro motorsports vids. cheers
@lordlarssen
@lordlarssen 3 ай бұрын
Love your channel .... So much info and facts I never knew or even heard of ... THANKX :D🤘
@udomeuthen8072
@udomeuthen8072 Ай бұрын
In the time of the Audi V8 in DTM, there were two races, yes, but both races took place on Sunday. Friday and Saturday were only Training and Qualifying.
@tonychavez2083
@tonychavez2083 2 ай бұрын
the Audi V8 story always puts a smile on my face, brilliant!
@groeacht8525
@groeacht8525 3 ай бұрын
If you ever start doing driver profiles I'd love one on Walter Röhrl, he just seems to have been everywhere in the 80s und 90s
@brady.7793
@brady.7793 3 ай бұрын
We can only hope that audi makes this kind of a splash when they hit f1
@GeorgiGeorgiev-ne9ps
@GeorgiGeorgiev-ne9ps 3 ай бұрын
I think they should have been in F1 decades ago
@nickwells20
@nickwells20 3 ай бұрын
The new RS6 hatch honoring the trans am car is so good looking. Its got the white with orange and all white wheels. Check it out if you haven't seen it yet.
@splitsecondmagician
@splitsecondmagician 2 ай бұрын
Remember when cars looked good and had their own personalities? These days, all vehicles go for the edgy technology look, which sucks and is ugly.
@dani8361
@dani8361 2 ай бұрын
literally all of these cars look like a brick
@moonwalkehh
@moonwalkehh 2 ай бұрын
@@dani8361a lot better looking than anything else
@ryanlarson4700
@ryanlarson4700 Ай бұрын
And the manufacturers have gotten really good at making vehicles that will barely last the warranty period. 2015 and on are junk.
@SANDSCORCHER
@SANDSCORCHER 3 ай бұрын
Every day’s a school day😎👍🏻 Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 3 ай бұрын
Watched twice already I love Audi I own 1 and looking to get Rs5 B8 and turn it into this beast for track
@MrCukydoh
@MrCukydoh 3 ай бұрын
lmao.. have you driven a B8 RS5? it's a heavy boy.
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 3 ай бұрын
@@MrCukydoh yes and it's so heavy my Audi a5 3.2 is so heavy that's why I been thinking about GR86 bro what you think??? Get my dream car or a car I can whip around and enjoy???? And knowing it's new working on it myself??? What would you choose??
@MrCukydoh
@MrCukydoh 3 ай бұрын
@@jstewlly4747 i briefly ran a RS5. lovely daily, the M3 is a better track car, still need to drive a C63
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 3 ай бұрын
@MrCukydoh I drove C63 it was so fun yet pretty unstable I was scared I'm not a trq guy but damn was it fun
@PawelTyczynski
@PawelTyczynski 3 ай бұрын
So many Audi "experts" and still nobody noticed some kind of a non-EU version Audi 100 C1 at 2:39.
@2003AudiS3
@2003AudiS3 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you have done anything on pikes peaks but there have been many interesting cars built for the event. If I remember correctly, there was once a dual engine golf built by VW
@manchomiranda9861
@manchomiranda9861 3 ай бұрын
Very happy i stumbled upon your channel.
@detroitdiesel7074
@detroitdiesel7074 2 ай бұрын
I love how stuck praises the car!
@spinnetti
@spinnetti 3 ай бұрын
Awesome.... Definitely an Audi fan. In the spirit of the v8, I race a Lexus LS400 in circuit racing lol (Though I have Audi street cars).
@Stroke2Engineering
@Stroke2Engineering 3 ай бұрын
During that time DTM ran two 100km-races on Sunday with a repait break in between. The race.in Saturday and Sunday was introduced in 2015, after there was only one race on Sunday since 2003.
@laugesteffensen8768
@laugesteffensen8768 3 ай бұрын
The A4 B5 STW car is gonna be my favorite for all time, simply amazing!
@GarrisonHundt
@GarrisonHundt 3 ай бұрын
I bet you could head that thing screaming from miles away. The third loudest thing on the planet, second is a J-79 jet engine, and 1 is 787B
@Adriethyl
@Adriethyl Ай бұрын
The IMSA Quattro livery is so nice.
@Tacko14
@Tacko14 3 ай бұрын
Nice touch, that Audi livery with your name in it. I did snigger a bit :)
@kingster3835
@kingster3835 3 ай бұрын
Lovely clip into the Golden era of DTM! BTW: what maker models are those Toyota GT-One, Sauber and Takata NSX behind you on the shelves? and what scale are those? I would love to have my hands on a NSX LM spec car from 1994... and ARTA NSX .
@shifty1927
@shifty1927 3 ай бұрын
Crazy that the E30 was still competitive during this time. It was out powered by the mercs and greatly out powered by the audis. And audi still had to cheat. Then when caught they dropped out and played victim. Not a good look for audi. Bmw would never.😂😂
@BrownSofaGamer
@BrownSofaGamer 3 ай бұрын
Except Audi was winning before they put in the flat-plane crankshaft. I think it’s more impressive that Audi made a full-size, executive car a successful touring car. The illegal crankshaft was just them pushing the rules to try and keep the car competitive for a third season when the weight became a problem.
@Jules-oc3pv
@Jules-oc3pv 3 ай бұрын
BMW would never what? Win the transam championship in the first year of entering? Dominate the first 2 years of Group B? Win lemans 13 times in 17 years? Win the Dakar rally? Be the first manufacturer to win DTM championships back to back? Be the only manufacturer that won the big 3 European endurance races (Lemans 24h, Spa 24h and Nurburgring 24h) in the same year not once but twice? Win nurburgring 24h 7 times in 13 years? Yeah BMW would never achieve that, but Audi did 😘
@shifty1927
@shifty1927 3 ай бұрын
@@BrownSofaGamer yea with twice the cylinders and drive wheels. That's all I was pointing out. That the bmw was still holding its own against a far superior vehicle.
@shifty1927
@shifty1927 3 ай бұрын
@@Jules-oc3pv and even with those accomplishments the e30 m3 has still won more. Bmw did it with the same chassis across all forms of racing. Its known as the most successful road race car in history for a reason. And im not here to hate on audi. I actually like them alot. Their lemans program from 2000 to 2005 with the r8 was untouchable. A pure masterclass in endurance dominance.
@shifty1927
@shifty1927 3 ай бұрын
@@Jules-oc3pv also bmw has won dakar six times. 3 of those wins were in a row.83,84,85... Says Audi just got their first win there in 2024.
@ananastudio
@ananastudio Ай бұрын
Bring back top of the line German touring car racing 🗣🔥
@wraith600original1
@wraith600original1 3 ай бұрын
a few issues with Aero as well look at the clip at around @11:38 that Audi has its front wheels off the ground up hill 😲😲😲😲
@IOWPCV
@IOWPCV 3 ай бұрын
Great video !
@christopherpardell4418
@christopherpardell4418 3 ай бұрын
I have had a 2005 3.2L TT Quattro SLine with DSG for the past 18 years. Yeah yeah- I KNOW its a haldex, but it still puts power down in all 4 corners and the car just will not hydroplane and holds power thru twisty turns and curves better than any RWD I’ve driven or been very distantly chased by. It’s also been the lowest cost of ownership car I have ever had, not costing me anything beyond scheduled maintenance until very recently when I decided to spruce it up so it will stay new looking and driving another 18 years. It’s not the fastest car on the road, but it is the funnest, most affordable, and most practical. ( iv’e brought lumber home in my TT. ) And it’s possibly the best quality of build Audi ever achieved, with its all aluminum trim.
@baktru
@baktru 2 ай бұрын
I had a rainy drag "race" against one of those at the red lights once. The TT was much faster than I had expected. At the next lights is when I saw the 3.2 badge :p
@JamesLv6
@JamesLv6 3 ай бұрын
Ford Sierra next, please :)
@zoomerzoomer-jn7rf
@zoomerzoomer-jn7rf 3 ай бұрын
lets be honest , a high revving as possible 4 valve audi v8 was probably pushing out 500-600 bhp , bmw and mercedes where making 380bhp with their 2.5 evo's, weighing around 860kg, the audi with 4wd and weighing more needed at least 150-200bhp more to compete with them.
@anthooktt1403
@anthooktt1403 2 ай бұрын
talking about turbo bans.. I still dont get why ford did not put 5.0 coyote engine in a racing sierra.. they had built 250ish XR8 sierras with said engine
@andrewrollason4963
@andrewrollason4963 3 ай бұрын
The "how" is that the DTM banned the nominal Group A competition. The Audi V8 Quattro would have roundly been beaten by the Holden Commodore VL SS Group A; which in 1990 did manage to steal a Bathurst win against the Nissan GTR. The VN which came in 1991 was also pretty handy. There were plans for the Audi V8 Quattros to appear at Bathurst in 1991 but the factory realised that they'd be beaten; so they didn't show up.
@bzilla-d4i
@bzilla-d4i 3 ай бұрын
Find that very hard to believe, especially considering the differences between those machines, Audi destroyed its rivals from GM in the US in TransAm. Doubt those Aussie and Japanese machines would've made a difference. They were all destroyed by the M3 anyway when you had the R32 GTR and the rest all competing at the 24 hours of Nurburgring event with BMW wiping the floor with Mercedes, Ford, Nissan, Audi and Honda. The Skyline was a good car, but it's dominance is overstated when compared to the E30 M3 which is the most successful race car ever, as well as the Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 and Mercedes Benz 190e.
@andrewrollason4963
@andrewrollason4963 3 ай бұрын
@@bzilla-d4i The M3 was an absolute also ran against the Sierra, Commodore and GTR. "Doubt those Aussie and Japanese machines would've made a difference." GTR killed all and sundry. Commodore was inadequate but still managed to win the 1000 against it.
@andrewrollason4963
@andrewrollason4963 3 ай бұрын
@@bzilla-d4i "Audi destroyed its rivals from GM in the US in TransAm." The TransAm Audi is not this. .
@bzilla-d4i
@bzilla-d4i 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewrollason4963 killed all? Well the results speak for themselves when they went head to head, the E30 M3 always came out on top. Despite being a class down. The correction should be the GTR killed all in Japan and Australia. In 1991 Macau the Europeans entered and the R32 driven by Hasemi got his ass kicked by not just the M3 but the 190e as well. When those guys came up against the Europeans they lost hard, Team Lark's McLaren F1 GTR completely shut all of them out when the entered with Ralf Schumacher, nearly driving a complete shutout of the season not winning in only 1 race. They always lost quite handily when they came up against the Europeans. Being dominant in Japan and Australia is one thing, but when facing the European teams they always came up 2nd best. This is not speculation, this is fact. And that's despite the BMW's and Mercedes being non turbo machines way down on power. Even in Japan the E30 M3 is the most successful touring car ever, with 7 titles. The real battles took place in the mid to late 90's between the Primera, Audi A4, Ford Mondeo, Renault Laguna, Honda Accord and the 318is. That was much closer in spec, and a lot more fun to watch
@leviathan5207
@leviathan5207 3 ай бұрын
Source: you made it the fuck up
@jasotpatakasu8673
@jasotpatakasu8673 3 ай бұрын
Cool story, I found an interesting topic for video tho. I hear from many that rx7 was dominant in IMSA which is IMO more interesting than Mazda's french single triumph at Le Mans. Yet i cannot find any similar video on this topic
@automobilistic
@automobilistic 3 ай бұрын
The Mazda IMSA entries are on my list!
@Giratina575
@Giratina575 3 ай бұрын
I read up on that car. It was indeed a monster
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 3 ай бұрын
​@@automobilistic can you also cover the domination of the 935 family of race cars and when Kremer beat Porsche at their own game?
@jasotpatakasu8673
@jasotpatakasu8673 3 ай бұрын
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo You can give a watch in a meantime to huge three part documentary of 935 by small you tuber ARC Driver. None of yt car guys I found made a vid on IMSA's rx-7
@Midtable1881
@Midtable1881 3 ай бұрын
Mad take here but what if the DTM raced with souped up stripped out S-Classes, 7 Series and A8s?
@bapr3887
@bapr3887 22 күн бұрын
A8 would dominate it absolutely.
@djisch
@djisch 3 ай бұрын
4:48 hit from behind? he completely locked up and plowed into someone
@JohnCharb87
@JohnCharb87 3 ай бұрын
Wait I recognize that footage of the track and wooden area. Motorweek!! Probably one of the best American automotive related media ever produced.
@davidsaintcyr3384
@davidsaintcyr3384 3 ай бұрын
Great vid
@imvivalamilo
@imvivalamilo 3 ай бұрын
Nice video
@Aniket2712
@Aniket2712 2 ай бұрын
6:28 .... WHAT? Never heard of him!!
@sander.
@sander. 3 ай бұрын
does anyone know the song name that plays on 6:10
@PolishJerry1
@PolishJerry1 3 ай бұрын
No
@the_eskimo93
@the_eskimo93 2 ай бұрын
Darude- Sandstorm
@non-fictionaltoughguy1208
@non-fictionaltoughguy1208 Ай бұрын
@@the_eskimo93can confirm, this is it, thank you
@ahmedaliabudorrah4901
@ahmedaliabudorrah4901 Ай бұрын
qauttro engines and audi is a lagend
@bennyhilla2558
@bennyhilla2558 3 ай бұрын
very nice video with M.Schumacher I WILL PRAY FOR MICHAEL TOMORROW
@giobarbarinimusic
@giobarbarinimusic 3 ай бұрын
Group A was completely dominated by the Delta
@automobilistic
@automobilistic 3 ай бұрын
In rally, yes
@kanaric
@kanaric Ай бұрын
Until Toyota took over
@GeeShocker
@GeeShocker Ай бұрын
Would have been interesting seeing Audi and Nissan go at each other in Gr.A.
@gedeuchnixan3830
@gedeuchnixan3830 3 ай бұрын
May the legend Michael Schumacher have as happy days as possible for the rest of his life, you will be remembered.
@spikeguard
@spikeguard 3 ай бұрын
This is probably why F1 doesn't want Audi to race with other manufacturers in F1.
@d.d.7287
@d.d.7287 Ай бұрын
The title of this video should be: "When Audi brought a tank to a gun fight"
@RvNxMcBride
@RvNxMcBride 3 ай бұрын
Audi: shows up, wins, gets to good, goes home.
@yeungkawo
@yeungkawo 2 ай бұрын
Like this video! These huge champ Audi is my all time fav
@AlexSeidl45
@AlexSeidl45 3 ай бұрын
Yo where can I get one of those pictures like you have from the Circuit de la Sarthe?
@amiigaf4476
@amiigaf4476 2 ай бұрын
That man wasnt stuck he was flying
@wortexinternational2598
@wortexinternational2598 2 ай бұрын
had a beautiful 1990 V8. Loved that car. Until a scambag guy decided to steal it. My life changed after so I never got a chance to get the same car but got close a few times. The one I really wanted was a 1993 V8 4.2l Manual !!!
@JackAdamCarter
@JackAdamCarter 3 ай бұрын
It's simple- Audi don't mess around!
@RST9413
@RST9413 3 ай бұрын
Funny how idiots talk about weight distribution without a clue. Its simple if you can use your brain 10%,but seems most of people just copy and paste what they hear at another idiots. Its called pendulum effect its same thing happening with Porsche or most of mid engine cars. This is one of the best things on car. The car have so much turn in and the feeling its just amazing.
@MatsNorway
@MatsNorway 3 ай бұрын
Group A needs to come back.
@EmmanuelFernndezdelaCruz
@EmmanuelFernndezdelaCruz 3 ай бұрын
hi there, i just wanna ask where did you get your car models ?,i mean i would love to buy them
@Simon11Aviation
@Simon11Aviation 3 ай бұрын
Sittin in a audi sq5 as i watch this
@tydawidowski6245
@tydawidowski6245 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Have seen a bit on this from the dtm 92 season review (might be on KZbin) Never been a fan of audi. Sure they innovate but they cheat and bend the rules. Dr Ulrich was a proven source of this. I’m a proud bmw fan, don’t mind mercs but always found bmw to be better in more ways. Love the group a e30 M3, lucky to see them in Australia. Love The super touring e36s too. Especially the Bathurst winner that never gets remembered
@GarrisonHundt
@GarrisonHundt 3 ай бұрын
By the way, how do you make your videos. I want to do kind of the same thing as this, so I want to know how you make and edit them
@IyoMiyo
@IyoMiyo 3 ай бұрын
Do you have sources for the bgm you used?
@iuxanu
@iuxanu 3 ай бұрын
now that i think of it, has audi ever made a light roadcar in its class?
@JimIAmDaniels
@JimIAmDaniels Ай бұрын
Lucky Porsche didn't get too serious about WRC ,where did Audi go too build their RS 2
@DubioserAltschauerberger1510
@DubioserAltschauerberger1510 3 ай бұрын
Lancia and Peugeot were also fast and had no awd. But I don't see the point to claim Audi was cheating. Wasn't like they were hiding the fact using quattro awd
@vzw5z5
@vzw5z5 Ай бұрын
The races were on the same day
@Mr_Bute
@Mr_Bute 3 ай бұрын
In 1988 Audi went to North America to teach them how to pronounce Audi. In 1989 Audi were forced out of North America
@jfv65
@jfv65 3 ай бұрын
#Audi5000😉
@AnalogDude_
@AnalogDude_ 3 ай бұрын
These BMW's & Mercedes Benz's where the legendary BMW e30 M3 with 2.3 liter engine and Mercedes Benz 190 2.3 16V. The Mercedes Benz 190 had/has multi link suspension on the rear axle, witch was pretty much unmatched/unheard vs the rest of the world in a standard car. back than. these cars will not brake out in the back if you want them too, you would simply drift around the corner in a controlled fashion and resume your drive. very cool.
@ryminsta
@ryminsta 3 ай бұрын
Didnt Audi fiddle with the cylinders 😂
@mangobanana7195
@mangobanana7195 Ай бұрын
It's not just the car, Audi also had the best drivers of that era, Michelle Mouton won whether she was in an Audi or a Peugeot.
@bapr3887
@bapr3887 22 күн бұрын
Michelle Mouton was female in male competition, she had no chances vs other male drivers and it was indeed THE CAR, that make Mouton fast.
@mangobanana7195
@mangobanana7195 22 күн бұрын
@@bapr3887 😂😂😂, Audi wasn't the only car and team she drove for, she won in Peugeot and she was hitting podiums in other tournaments in other cars as well.
@964cuplove
@964cuplove 2 ай бұрын
You know you’re great if the change the rules in TWO championships just to slow YOU down…
@964cuplove
@964cuplove 2 ай бұрын
THEY
@Mp-jw1qg
@Mp-jw1qg 3 ай бұрын
one of my earliest memories in life was being 5 years old durring the peak of DTM . the e30 is cemented as my favorite race car of all time. audi's a close second.
@kushagramaurya3410
@kushagramaurya3410 26 күн бұрын
The kind of stuff BMW needs to convince us that the new M3 is a great car
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