How Alfa Romeo (briefly) Dominated DTM

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@automobilistic
@automobilistic Ай бұрын
If this video feels familiar, its not deja vu. Just over a year ago I published a video about this car, however the information in it was flawed, and it has since been unlisted. This video uses parts of the original script, but large sections have been re-written to fix inaccuracies and better tell the story of this legendary machine!
@madphilip12
@madphilip12 Ай бұрын
Boss of the sauce
@madphilip12
@madphilip12 Ай бұрын
You should do the history of Oliver and that " beta superleggera" Since at least the 190e was well done
@MrSpencerTreas
@MrSpencerTreas Ай бұрын
Still going to watch it again.
@mcgoo721
@mcgoo721 Ай бұрын
Seems fitting for an Alfa Romeo video. (Idk I'm just yapping)
@austinpeterson4898
@austinpeterson4898 Ай бұрын
I’m okay with that, gives me a good excuse to watch it again 😊
@Rypsolisti
@Rypsolisti Ай бұрын
Alfa did brilliantly with 155, winning DTM and BTCC a year later.
@samacw
@samacw Ай бұрын
I wonder how much faster the DTM car was over a lap. The ITC cars were around 15 seconds per lap faster over the Silverstone GP circuit in 1996 and I think that's the only shared venue.
@vintageman91
@vintageman91 Ай бұрын
420 bhp from a 2.5 litre without turbo or supercharger is A LOT.
@myownsite
@myownsite Ай бұрын
12k rpm tends to do that!
@ETV-xt1kq
@ETV-xt1kq Ай бұрын
It was claimed to perform even more. At some literature 480 is highlighted.
@gabrieledicesare8502
@gabrieledicesare8502 22 күн бұрын
And this was 30 years ago!
@hobizoli
@hobizoli 9 күн бұрын
@@ETV-xt1kq that was the PRV engine in the last year
@Luky8260
@Luky8260 Ай бұрын
Best ERA of Touring Cars....love yours vids!!!!!
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK Ай бұрын
Bar none. 1991 - 1997 was also great for the BTCC. Sundays was a dream, DTM, BTCC and F1 was good still.
@JewelzTheEmeraldGod
@JewelzTheEmeraldGod Ай бұрын
V8 Supercars is nice to especially pre-2018 supercars
@gehtdianschasau8372
@gehtdianschasau8372 Ай бұрын
My mechanic has an 190 E evo 2 in perfect condition. This car looks so fugly in such a beautiful way. M3's are quite common, Alfas rusted away. The 190 E still turns heads. That stupid ironing board spoiler alone is so hillarious.
@iraklikh6619
@iraklikh6619 Ай бұрын
Alfa romeo is something very special, yes they struggle a lot but also they won every championship where they raced . Alfa must live and be successful
@Kandimitsu
@Kandimitsu Ай бұрын
Mercedes dropped the ball in 93, Alfa deserved the title. Good to see coverage up to 96. The 96 season was my favourite by far, the teams, drivers and liveries were epic I have many of them as model cars. Also the 96 season with the high costs was an arms race destined to fail, due to the TV rights money and lack of crowds at the races like interlargos and Mangy Cours. The 97 zakspeed calibra is a weapon!
@evo271
@evo271 Ай бұрын
I'm sorry but Alfa Romeo made 2 iconic race cars: 155 and 156. Who else did that ? Also, that 12.000 rpm engine in the 155 is one of a kind in this racing kind.
@mikeyerke3920
@mikeyerke3920 Ай бұрын
How could he not mention all of those glorious RPMs? Somehow disappointing. 🏁
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Ай бұрын
The engine that was capable of 12k (11,900 rpm) was the type the used the PRV engine block. The PRV V6 was manufactured by Française de Mécanique for PRV, which was an alliance of Peugeot, Renault and Volvo Cars. The PRV equipped Alfa 155 made its debut in 1996 - noting that only the block was PRV and the remainder was bespoke Alfa derived 'racing car' componentry.
@hajekpeter6379
@hajekpeter6379 Ай бұрын
@@georgebettiol8338 As I remember there was a rule that they can use any engine shape and degree in the car manufacturers list. The Lancia was also the part of the FIAT, and it was equipped with the PRV V6. So the Alfa had a right to use the V6 and the 90 degree between the cilinder lines. As I know this is the common part between the 155 DTM and the PRV V6 engine.
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Ай бұрын
@@hajekpeter6379 Agree the DTM rules in the early to mid 1990s had gotten so lax, and the costs to run a competitive series so high, that the DTM series was simply discontinued at the end of the 1996 season. It seemed to 'mirror' to what had occurred to the Can-Am series of the late 1960s to early 70s where again the rules were somewhat lax (some say almost non-existant), although in the case of the the Can-Am series - it was also affected by the 1973 fuel crisis. Notably, a revamped 'new' DTM began in 2000. Lancia purchased the rights to install the PRV engine in the Thema in 1984 - which was prior to the Fiat take-over of Alfa Romeo which occurred in 1986. It stands to reason that if Fiat had taken ownership of Alfa several years earlier then they would have logically installed the Alfa V6 - which they eventually did for the 1992 model Thema. The PRV V6 was also fitted to the De Lorean, Renault Alpine and Talbot Tagora with carbs. Contemporary reviews of the PRV V6 were not 'complimentary' (an understatement), however its engine block was a relatively very sturdy design that formed the basis of the high reving Alfa powerplant suitable for the DTM series - or at least - for the final year of that version of the DTM. Notably, the PRV's design genesis was as a 3.5 litre V8 - hence the 90 degree layout - however the fuel crisis resulted in a cut down version - ie. a V6 version with effecitively 2 cylinders cut-off the V8 with the undesirable 90 degree layout. The same design philosophy of lopping-off two cylinders off an existing V8 design was also applied by Maserati, for the Merak, de Tomaso for the Biturbo where the engine was based on the Merak (de Tomaso owned Maserati at this time), and Buick that spawned the long lived Buick 3.8 V6 - although in the latter's case, balance shafts were adopted to 'smooth out' the inherently poor harmonics.
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC Ай бұрын
Good info in this thread, thanks all. 👍
@mik3952
@mik3952 Ай бұрын
To be saying "Alfa only won because they were the only ones having a class 1 car that year" means one could say.."Audi Quattro won only because no one else had 4WD that year". Right?
@Glocktologist
@Glocktologist Ай бұрын
That would be correct. We can never know for sure what had happened if things went the other way, but such huge advantages over the competition should not be underestimated.
@asganaway
@asganaway 24 күн бұрын
Also is a biased and imho mostly untrue statement, giving the rules were written by Germans in German and all the first hand sources (AKA the Alfa chief engeneer) intervieved complaned about having to translate the rulebook in Italian and giving underperforming choices, adding up that the whole organization was in the backyard of Mercedes and even BMW had enough of them ruling a bit too much (See the moving ballast in the back of the 190 considered legit.. as part of the "free suspention"), overall I think it was a pretty open rulebook, where everyones had the chance to put down what they could, but saying Mercedes didn't have the car because the rules changed without they had the chance to prepare the car is crazy, I would stop and say that Mercedes didn't do enough and was bested not expecting an Alfa that strong, but Fiat moved the whole team from the Delta after leaving the WRC, they did well because they were very, very good, so it's not out of ignorance of a sudden change, also when introduced the new S1 car, the rules changed again, becoming even more extreme, Alfa didn't stay competitve because didn't have the budget to redo the car in 1993 (?), Bosh did the antiskid for free for Alfa for instance, the telemetry was introduced, the rule forced the producer to enter with more car, it become intercontinental, Alfa couden't sustain that, Fiat the Alfa's owner wanted to disinvest (and probably move the budget on Ferrari), the new long waited V6 engine (probably the best engine overall) was done in secret against Fiat management knowing that (again from the sources). In the end they killed the competition with the cost run.
@arcangeloblues
@arcangeloblues 18 күн бұрын
Well the first year of 4WD Audi Lancia still managed to win
@mik3952
@mik3952 18 күн бұрын
@@arcangeloblues the first year Audi won and shocked everyone. The next year (while everybody was struggling to develop a 4WD car ASAP but was not ready yet) Lancia came with this 037 RWD which was somehow adapted to take on the Quattro. I am talking about the first year. Not the second.
@pachokardana6192
@pachokardana6192 16 күн бұрын
It's true!
@PLACEonPLATE
@PLACEonPLATE Ай бұрын
Dude your channel is pure bliss... from the subject, to the format, even the consistent look of the thumbnails. Professional level, brother!
@MilfordHeavenMercadoPach-im7jk
@MilfordHeavenMercadoPach-im7jk Ай бұрын
'It was good time the 90s seeing best manufacturer duel it out in dtm'.
@PG-20
@PG-20 Ай бұрын
So blinded by nostalgia they forgot almost every manufacturer left
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Ай бұрын
Only German manufacturers + Alfa? Japan had the JGTC regulations to replace Group A. (Suspiciously turbo Group A cars like the Skyline GT-R were never allowed in Group A DTM anyway...) It's a shame that when the two categories finally went to combined regulations, there were only a handful of combined races.
@ZedNinetySix_
@ZedNinetySix_ Ай бұрын
​@@TassieLorenzo DTM didn't allow the turbocharged R32, but they allowed the turbocharged Opel Carlton?🤔
@gartoneng8115
@gartoneng8115 Ай бұрын
@@ZedNinetySix_ They dont want an one make race
@johnnyzippo7109
@johnnyzippo7109 8 күн бұрын
Wow 🤩! I must say , SIR, you are very gifted at this type of content creation. I am a lifelong gearhead / dad-bot , that has drifted away from motorsport. This is the first channel that I have landed on that brings back my passion for the sport . I want to say thank you for this , keep up the incredible work , BRAVO SiR!
@abooalaz
@abooalaz Ай бұрын
I'm a fan of Alfa Romeo because of this car
@fabiocontrera559
@fabiocontrera559 Ай бұрын
Your videos are so good.
@melvyncox3361
@melvyncox3361 Ай бұрын
The 155 was a looker,in both DTM and BTCC guise.The BTCC was great in 1994,when they dominated the series.l have both of these as models.Great piece!
@johnnyzippo7109
@johnnyzippo7109 8 күн бұрын
The cherry on top , you are a natural at dry auto humor, just phenomenal !
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK Ай бұрын
I like the M3. I f*cking LOVE the 190 EVO 2!
@binkihsu
@binkihsu Ай бұрын
There was no non-German DTM winner before 155, and neither after 155.
@thegreasybandit6373
@thegreasybandit6373 Ай бұрын
honestly it’s a mystery to me how this channel hasn’t blow up yet. this is at least 5-600k sub content imo.
@Ottobon
@Ottobon Ай бұрын
I need to argue something, and this is my minor point not my major one that follows, but Alfa Romeo "Soulfulness" is often incorrectly decoded as a being unreliable, but the meaning is the actual atmosphere, connection, sound, visuals (interior and view out) that a Alfa puts you in. I don't think Alfaheads mind this but just to be clear. They are often Full Experience cars to drive more then anything outside of exotics and a few classics which share this, cars designed as a whole competently for the drivers enjoyment, but alas this is my minor gripe, no Alfahead minds the jokes regarding "Soulfulness" But here is my main dispute, so far as Reliability if you look into it i promise, and i only know of this because i've done cheapskate racing, Alfa Romeos ARE NOT unreliable, they are high maintenance. If you want a anonology compare it kinda but even more complex in nature to Rotory cars like the RX7. What i mean by this is if you want a car to finish a race a Alfa Romeo is one of the top choices, above Honda (which surprisingly break on track a lot when parts are derived mostly from production models) but behind Mazda and Toyota for production cars turned racers, however that is it, they are THAT high up in regards to on-track reliability. However try to live with one as a Daily and every new heat cycle can become a battle, especially if you don't follow the insanely small window of multiple overlapping maintenance timelines that all Alfas of that era have. Properly maintained as a Daily you are doing something comparably major every other oil change or so, just how they are built, but this does nothing to deter actual on track endurance (12-24 hour etc) related reliability. If you don't trust me ask the guys who run "24 Hours of Lemons" or "Chumpcar" in the states. I'm not claiming Alfas aren't a nightmare to own and drive as a daily compared to other cars, but surprisingly when you just beat on a car for hours and hours at full tilt they compare far closer to Mazdas and Toyotas which otherwise are at the top with everything else usually markedly below. Start to stop one of the most reliable, but next heat cycle of the engine and drivetrain look out 🤣
@mtlb2674
@mtlb2674 Ай бұрын
Thanks for giving thumbs for Alfas. They great, unique, beautiful cars. And awesome to drive. I had 04 year Alfa 156 2.0 liter JTS from 2008 to 2017. Such a beautiful car, amazing to drive and it had quite nice engine sounds. I had very little problems with that car, it worked like swiss clock. Then, from 2017 to April 2024 I had a 09 year Lancia Delta 3, 1,4 liter Multi Air. Quite a nice car too and also reliable enough. Then, on April this year I bought a 2012 year Alfa Giulietta, 1,4 liter Multi Air. Beautiful car both outside and inside, really good to drive. But the small turbo engine compared to the 2,0 free aspirated engine thst I had in the 156... It's not nearly as much fun. Also the 156 was better car to drive ( but that tell's you how superb car the 156 was. And is still today). What come's to the reliability of the Giulietta, there's allways something breaking up. Air con, window controls, boot controls etc... But I'm still glad I own one, I love my Giulietta.
@Ottobon
@Ottobon Ай бұрын
@@mtlb2674 Definitely, you sound like a native italian or at least in Europe. I think there is some of the same over there but the Alfa clubs overseas here is one of the most major things, we stopped getting models for a long while so it was basically a support group of Alfa addicts but probably one of the coolest clubs i ever interacted with. Same club was as welcoming to people with 70-80s basketcases to pre-war relics worth more then i can dream of, all that was required is you loved Alfas
@mtlb2674
@mtlb2674 Ай бұрын
I'm not from Italy but from Finland. Most of the people here love their boring Toyota Corollas or their Ford Focus. Not me. No way in hell. Italian cars is the thing. Hoping to afford a Maserati some day...
@t.r.2283
@t.r.2283 23 күн бұрын
​@@mtlb2674as you took a lot of time to rephrase a stereotype of alpha I demand you spend the same time to rephrase the stereotype of boring and toyota into reliable, stress-free, durable and the true check if a girl you date is a keeper. If she likes your Toyota that's the woman to marry.
@joshuabarrett7486
@joshuabarrett7486 Ай бұрын
The Alfa Romeo 155 has always been a childhood favorite of mine thanks of course to DTM. I’ve always believed Alfa Romeos are underrated and under appreciated. They have always represented to me an affordable, organic, practical and unique Italian driving experience!!! Phenomenal stuff really! 🇮🇹❤️‍🔥💯
@joshuabarrett7486
@joshuabarrett7486 Ай бұрын
Love V-6 too! 💯
@ORMA1
@ORMA1 24 күн бұрын
Dear friend, in 50s, 60s and early 70s Alfa was one of the greatest european factories. It was an era when Sportscar races (Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale, for example) won everything. In F1 era (1970 and over) Alfa was underrated in favour of Ferrari. Believe me, in italians' heart Alfa has a great place
@thomasredden4263
@thomasredden4263 Ай бұрын
I really don’t understand how you have only 70k subs. Maybe racing history is more niche than I realize, but the quality of these videos and the attention to detail and ability to make things accessible for everyone with a basic knowledge of cars/racing paired with your very low key but easy to listen to oration style is arguably my favorite work on KZbin. I always get pumped to see you have posted again and thanks for the effort that goes into these videos!
@borninpennsylvania3908
@borninpennsylvania3908 Ай бұрын
you should make a video about opel, just opel in general. calibra, astra, kadett, manta, ascona, omega
@deanothemanc5281
@deanothemanc5281 Ай бұрын
Fire up raceroom 95. DTM goodness ❤.
@adammodan8030
@adammodan8030 Ай бұрын
diepholz getting coverage
@Kappadoom70
@Kappadoom70 Ай бұрын
Italian here: there are interviews on youtube (only in italian of course) where the managers or engineers of alfa romeo, I don't remember who, said that in 1996 the cost to develop the car was reaching F1 levels. This means that the technology on these machine was astounding, but no wonder they retired with these costs and poor results. Truly a shame
@ORMA1
@ORMA1 24 күн бұрын
Fu una scelta (scellerata) del gruppo Fiat a far cessare il progetto DTM
@TheVeenmeister
@TheVeenmeister Ай бұрын
The 155 has a special place in my heart. They say that you're a real enthousiast when you ever owned an Alfa. The 155 was my first car.
@teroreponen1156
@teroreponen1156 Ай бұрын
I have had two 164s, 156 and 147. Endles tinkering occational problems and quite of bit of kit not working as it supposed to. Newer let me on the side of the road and I have enjoyed every ride tremendously. Actually, looking for anothdr Alfa to replace my boring Audi A3.
@TheVeenmeister
@TheVeenmeister Ай бұрын
@@teroreponen1156 Awesome! I drive a Panda 100HP now. I have it from new and must say that it is very reliable. It's over 200.000km now. Aside the normal services, I only had the electrical steering assist motor that failed once and replaced the foam in the drivers seat twice as the seating frame isn't the best(sharp edges that cut the foam and barely no inner springs). Replaced both and made the seat a better by making my own springs and crossbeams. Until today.. it's still going strong! 😃
@ORMA1
@ORMA1 24 күн бұрын
DTM 155 chassis derived from Lancia Delta WRC . It's engine, otherwise, was had pure Alfa blood.
@ganz7ful
@ganz7ful Ай бұрын
It was the only foreign car that beat the Krauts at their own DTM.
@mrspandel5737
@mrspandel5737 13 күн бұрын
Really? The 1985 season was won by the Volvo 240 Turbo, 1986 by the Rover SD1 Vitesse and 1988 by the Sierra RS500
@catalinhera
@catalinhera Ай бұрын
Only Alfa Romeo could beat the Germans at their own game. So nice to see Alessandro and Gianna together, few people know they're brother and sister.
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 Ай бұрын
Easily the best DTM car of all time I mean I love RS5 V8 DTM and Audi V8 DTM, hell Benz DTM V6 was amazing but that 155 beat em all
@TenorCantusFirmus
@TenorCantusFirmus Ай бұрын
The road-going 155 underneath was basically a FIAT Tipo with a trunk... Top-of-the-line was the Q4 with engine and all-wheel-drive system from the Lancia Delta Integrale, but the rest of the range was quite underwhelming, expecially after two decades of Alfetta-based family and executive sedans. The V6 TI was clearly a clever way to "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" which was made possible by the switch to a new ruleset: under Group E, maybe not even the Q4 would have saved the day. Also unfortunate not even an attempt at a (even limited edition) road-going versiont of the V6 TI was made: the combination of the Busso with AWD and an injection of power would probably have boosted the image of the car for good; nowadays, despite its racing successes (apart from 1993 DTM, also worth remembering its wins in 1994 BTCC and 1992 Italian "Superturismo" Championship), still ranks among the lowest-regarded ALFAs ever, which isn't a fully deserved reputation. I think its biggest problem actually was a public used to the sophisticated, exquisitely-designed Alfetta-based sedans of the 1970s and '80s, which skewed the expectations way far high.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Ай бұрын
"exquisitely-designed Alfetta-based sedans" I like Alfa but I'm not sure I can agree with that about the Type 116 Giulietta and 90! Where the Alfetta sedan and 75 looked good, I think the other two looked unfortunate from the rear and suffered from needing to share so much from the Alfetta. The "larger" 90 having (more or less) the same cabin size as the smaller car was confusing IMO.
@tank-eleven
@tank-eleven Ай бұрын
nowadays we give for granted things like a shared chassis. But the 155 had the world's second shared chassis (the first being the one of the Alfa 164). It literally changed forever the way cars are built. Google "telaio tipo 2" (2 is for the 164 and 4 for the 155)
@tank-eleven
@tank-eleven Ай бұрын
also putting a Busso in a road going version would not even had been authentic, as the V6 TI funnily enough used a PRV engine by Peugeot, Renault and Volvo.
@TenorCantusFirmus
@TenorCantusFirmus Ай бұрын
@@tank-eleven Yes, but because it would have been possible it'd be nice to use it.
@TenorCantusFirmus
@TenorCantusFirmus Ай бұрын
@@TassieLorenzo I was referring to the mechanical aspect, not the aesthetic design. The 90 was probably the weakest joint of the crop, but it was an interim stopgap between the Alfetta and the 164, even ALFA was conscious about this.
@sircopperfield7420
@sircopperfield7420 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for teaching us the history of one of the greatest automotove legends - Alfa Romeo. 155 is an icon even though a lot of people object the lack of RWD version.
@richardk6238
@richardk6238 Ай бұрын
Love these videos, very professional! The scripts are always on point and well delivered. Great footage too.
@taeketuinstra9817
@taeketuinstra9817 9 күн бұрын
Nice vid! Anyone with a slight interest in DTM and touring car racing overall, remembers the bright red Alfa's 155! It was not only a sporty achievement bij Alfa Romeo, but also a great marketing stunt indeed.
@Lizards_Basketball_Lounge
@Lizards_Basketball_Lounge 27 күн бұрын
Think you had aout 20 subscribers (maybe not even) when my main account subscribed after 1 video.. always great to see subscriber count grow every time I come back. Loving the man cave and the beauties in the background.
@havenwisner6776
@havenwisner6776 Ай бұрын
These videos are so good bro definitely needs more subs
@MrLolx2u
@MrLolx2u Ай бұрын
Yea but the power of the 155 isn't from the V6 nor the TI itself but the sheer stupidity Alfa did to it just to make the 155 competitive and... It worked.. Flawlessly. The 155 was working in both TI and GTA where the GTA form alone, with FWD, conquered the European Touring Car Championship multiple times from 1992-1997, slammed BTCC to bits with Gabriele Tarquini, the Spanish Touring Car Championship and the Italian Superturisimo Championship. These alone proved how solid of a platform the 155 was even before they took the Q4 variant, turned it into the V6 TI and raced in DTM. Thus, the 155 needs a whole workout, not just the V6 TI variant
@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515
@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515 Ай бұрын
After the the silver arrows' dominance. The Italian red fog looms. A new Challenger has approached. And truly the alpha of racers. They call themselves Alfa Racers. Enter Alfa Romeo, and the 155 (and TI) DTM and BTCC. This car briefly dominated both series. Just like other cars in Gran Turismo. People grew up with it. And mourn how much they like the '90s era of Motorsports so much. It was truly peak super touring era. An era as Aiden Millward put it "The SmackDown Sunday versus Monday Night Raw" of of touring car racing.
@nomojo1110
@nomojo1110 Ай бұрын
Very well done video, mate. I hope plenty of younger folks watch it too, and not just aging enthusiasts like myself ;) Cheers.
@yvangascogne
@yvangascogne Ай бұрын
Excellent work as always 👍
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex Ай бұрын
This is such a good channel. Please keep going.
@1978JonBullock
@1978JonBullock Ай бұрын
I had a 1996 Alfa 155 2.5 V6 in red when I was 19 bought it in 98 and sold it in 2003. I really wish I had kept it.
@pedro.veia1977
@pedro.veia1977 10 күн бұрын
Amaz8ng thr video quality footage you grab for this...super! Keep up tye good work
@alaricbragg7843
@alaricbragg7843 Ай бұрын
Great footage from my childhood TV viewing. Thanks so much for this rewrite! This episode justifies calling the 155 one of the most cool cars of the 1990s! Please may we have an Omega or a Mustang DTM story?
@PhantomMark
@PhantomMark Ай бұрын
I've been out with Larini in a touring car, he drives like a nutter :D
@sbsb4995
@sbsb4995 Ай бұрын
Great stuff. Thank you. 🎉🎉. Alfa is still the best.
@MrOrtmeier
@MrOrtmeier 12 күн бұрын
Beautiful, fast, great sounding cars. What more could you ask for? Competition is always great, especially for the viewers. 😊
@MarcoMenozziPro
@MarcoMenozziPro Ай бұрын
It was basically a German championship. There is an interview with Sergio Limone (who some will remember for the Lancia 037 and the Delta S4) in which he says that it was a real challenge to interpret the rules that the Germans had written in German to his own advantage.
@norm3523
@norm3523 Ай бұрын
Great show young man 🎉
@madphilip12
@madphilip12 Ай бұрын
Listening to you after watching that "last" episode of GT is warming, thank you
@tonychavez2083
@tonychavez2083 Ай бұрын
lets not forget about Alfa's excellent 93 season for BTTC (British series) with the 2.0L formula
@bellator9835
@bellator9835 Ай бұрын
Thx nice Video love the Story, love your way to Tell us Love the old days of DTM 😊
@thebestccore410
@thebestccore410 Ай бұрын
0:29 The bird watching the race is funny (also nice video)
@mrsimo7144
@mrsimo7144 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for this. Much appreciated.
@gooo1762
@gooo1762 18 күн бұрын
Sick Video Bro. Thanks
@quistan2
@quistan2 Ай бұрын
I really love this car in both gt4 and gt7, they are incredibly stable/planted cars right out of the box with no tinkering.
@chiefslief1886
@chiefslief1886 Ай бұрын
Ohh the Golden era 12.000rpm❤
@swinny5797
@swinny5797 Ай бұрын
Near where I live is a 155 Silverstone edition. Which has its own little tale of controversy behind it. I covet this car lol
@Pickchore
@Pickchore Ай бұрын
I never knew there was a Class 1 type 190. Can’t say I’ve ever seen one either. I would have definitely remembered those squared off wheel arches.
@jonathanohagan1349
@jonathanohagan1349 Ай бұрын
Noice work. So the Vauxhall/General Motors Calibra next then.
@IronMetal
@IronMetal 27 күн бұрын
I'm still in love with the BMW M3 E30, that thing is a beauty
@user-ih7gc7dt9l
@user-ih7gc7dt9l Ай бұрын
New subscriber ! Excellent video thanks 🎉
@ineedthatcar7169
@ineedthatcar7169 Ай бұрын
More research required on the engine and its development in to the ITC. Some dark arts used by Alfa to keep it competitive in to 1996. Good video nonetheless! What a charmed time that was in terms of touring cars!
@paololaconi1559
@paololaconi1559 Ай бұрын
Behind tho project there was the same people who made lancia grate on rally’s. Master engineers smart and proper cunning. I strongly advise you all to watch the interviews of this people on KZbin, videos made from a guy call Davide Cironi. You will know in depth stories about Ferraris, Lancia, Lamborghini and Alfa.
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC Ай бұрын
Ah, yes, been watching his videos for many years now, amazing content! 👍👍
@ORMA1
@ORMA1 24 күн бұрын
Fu costruita sulla base della Delta da rally: traz integrale e telaio. Se la guardi bene, è una Delta travestita da 155
@brandonluxton195
@brandonluxton195 Ай бұрын
One of the most beautiful sounding Alfas was the 1.5l TI Flat 4 with 2 twin downdraught weber carbs. Only 100bhp but a Philharmonic Orchestra of sound.
@d3f4ult_q8
@d3f4ult_q8 Ай бұрын
Nice work 👏
@jacobhungerford4206
@jacobhungerford4206 Ай бұрын
Do the story around the dakar truck that daf built in the 80s that runs 2 engines and multiple turbo chargers
@MultiAsger
@MultiAsger Ай бұрын
first car was a Audi A3, then i bought my brothers A4, it is such a nice car, love it so damn dearly
@LaCorvette
@LaCorvette 20 күн бұрын
Nice modelcars you have there in the background. Is that the 99 AutoArt TS020?
@NorthWolfe
@NorthWolfe Ай бұрын
Were Alfa still an independent brand, bleeding money faster than me at a strip bar, or were they already in the FIAT group, still bleeding money but with the Italian Government covering the cost? I own an Alfa Romeo SZ with the 3.0 Busso and an Alfa Romeo GTV V6, also with the 3.0 Busso. They are probably the best-sounding cars in my collection, a bit underpowered but they still "get them wet." I have a Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16v Cosworth and a lot of Ms (don't think I'll be buying BMWs any time soon, despite my daily having been a M635CSi). How did BMWs get so ugly to the point of giving me PTSD? All these cars were from what I call the beautiful era. Now, even some Ferraris are ugly af...
@Stroke2Engineering
@Stroke2Engineering Ай бұрын
The german wikipedia is listing the different cars and the rounds they were used for.
@c.s.8634
@c.s.8634 Ай бұрын
Very good channel. But please try not to stress or pitch your voice. Vowel quality will be better.
@DiariesOfABadDriver
@DiariesOfABadDriver 28 күн бұрын
The 155, especially in red, might be the prettiest race car ever imo.
@King_Ears
@King_Ears Ай бұрын
The 155 is an absolute beaut and sounds like nothing else
@FlyinBlaney
@FlyinBlaney Ай бұрын
Amazing video!
@caboose6411
@caboose6411 Ай бұрын
Alfas may not be super reliable but lord they are something else to drive
@slacko1971
@slacko1971 Ай бұрын
I think it's a myth, they are no more or less reliable than any other manufacture I have owned at least 5 and never had any issues other than routine servicing. Can't say the same for the BMW's a Merc's I've owned that throw a warning light on a monthly basis.
@caboose6411
@caboose6411 Ай бұрын
@@slacko1971 My dad bought a brand new 164 before I was born and he had it in the shop every other week almost with electrical and engine issues. He made more than enough that he didn’t care but it pissed my mom off 😂. He also had a 124 spider that his dad gave him and I don’t think he ever had many issues with that. I think it just comes down to the car itself. He’s had friends with new giulias that have had no issues. Also if it’s used and was mistreated by an owner and the next person gets it it’ll probably have issues. It’s kinda similar to bmws and Audis. They are reliable until someone stops keeping up with it’s routine maintenance
@AKK5I
@AKK5I Ай бұрын
This video gave me PTSD flashbacks of early game GT7 Gr.4 online races...
@slim1940
@slim1940 28 күн бұрын
It looks so fricking cool
@bjrnottesen5052
@bjrnottesen5052 6 сағат бұрын
1993 was the best season of DTM.
@pasqualegargiulo9648
@pasqualegargiulo9648 19 күн бұрын
literally the best race car ever made
@theclansman6663
@theclansman6663 Ай бұрын
Do the next one on the Calibra pleaaase
@syaieya
@syaieya 27 күн бұрын
As noble as Mercedes sticking out so many years without championships to match may seem. I can find no fault in other teams just adhering to the rules more than Mercedes' rally effort cast off. From the turbo'd Volvos and fords, the big block rover, and the AWD of the Quattro and Alfas; they all showed up, passed the tech inspection, and won. And the history books are richer for it.
@jamieoconnor1916
@jamieoconnor1916 Ай бұрын
I love your great content brother 😀😎
@jakeaharvey
@jakeaharvey Ай бұрын
To my understanding mercedes didn't actually have a point in the 93 season where a team stopped using the evo2 and started using the class 1 Instead at, at least some of the drivers, switched back and forth between the specs throughout the season depending which they thought would better suit the track
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Ай бұрын
Interesting! I would have assumed the class 1 car would have been universally better, but then again, given the car's rapid development timeframe, its easy to believe it had weaknesses
@Eggyteevee
@Eggyteevee Ай бұрын
Can you make a video on Ray Nichel's Pontiac Tempest pretty please :3c I'm a Pontiac fan and I'd like to see a Pontiac video made on your formula, and, although footage would be tough hard to find, I think it would earn a nice video
@vzw5z5
@vzw5z5 21 күн бұрын
Donnington didn’t give points because a national championship only was allowed one race abroad, which was Zolder
@delahayenator
@delahayenator Ай бұрын
TI is Trazione Integrale in V6TI for the AWD. Also you make it appear like the road 155 was available as v6 awd which it wasn’t. If you really want to know this car’s history checkout Davide Cironi’s channel as this vid doesn’t do that interesting history all justice it deserves
@monsterkillsports3499
@monsterkillsports3499 Ай бұрын
Basically the 155 dtm shares so many parts with the Lancia Delta Evoluzione ☠️
@ORMA1
@ORMA1 24 күн бұрын
It was born on Delta Evoluzione based, except engine, of course
@colorsfly
@colorsfly 11 күн бұрын
we did the light for the big 2000 People Tent on the rases... In the evening on one day, at a Mangement Meeting, the Alfa People said : in the past we were known for rust and problems, now everyboby loves Alfa for beating Mercedes... this is like a mystery, more than worth all the money we spend....
@boomshine7
@boomshine7 Ай бұрын
what a monster in GT2
@joemueller-zt9hn
@joemueller-zt9hn 5 күн бұрын
what was the old name of this channel? or what was your old channel name?
@DR991_
@DR991_ Ай бұрын
Hey where did you get the scale model of the toyota gt one?
@nowind37
@nowind37 Ай бұрын
fred any plans to make a video about opel calibra dtm
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Ай бұрын
yes :)
@PedroSantos_83
@PedroSantos_83 Ай бұрын
Fantastic! ❤
@Frank-Micah
@Frank-Micah Ай бұрын
you should search the story about the italian driver Tazio Nuvolari, you will not be disappointed!
@poolking123
@poolking123 Ай бұрын
My favourite car ever on gran turismo. I drive an alfa myself
@lucasl.5084
@lucasl.5084 Ай бұрын
did you already make a video on the w201?
@neilcrew4042
@neilcrew4042 Ай бұрын
Loved these 155’s, but haven’t seen one still on the road for many, many years.
@PulkaSkurken
@PulkaSkurken 27 күн бұрын
2:47 Alfa was famous for good looks, and fun to drive, the poor quality came later after this time era you are talking about. close but later. so at this point, they where not a poor quality car as the brand had for a long time sadly. i have owned a few Alfa´s and that poor quality reputation is no longer valid. But it is still there sadly. the 156 was a great car to drive both summer and winter. and if you as a owner was lazy it did rust easily if the paint was damaged. but hey, here in Swede we did use a lot of salt. on our roads. both summer and winter time. summer time on gravel road to reduce the dust clouds you where ripping up. and on all bigger asfalt roads during winter. after that i had a 159 3.2L V6 Q4, it was a monster! super fun to drive and worked perfectly never had any issues with that one.
@RobertSchmidt123
@RobertSchmidt123 2 күн бұрын
Der Alfa 155 war ein tolles Auto damals 🙂
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim Ай бұрын
Why didn’t Nissan join in Europe with the R32
@juppzmuda9725
@juppzmuda9725 20 күн бұрын
The Sierra dominated DTM, until Merc and BMW were crying (and paying?) in the ears of the officials to slow the Sierra down onto/under their level. So I was very happy to see Alfa beat the crap out of them in the 90s 😁
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