This Cheap Plastic Lee APP Thingy Is A Lot Easier To Use Than The Internet Leads You To Believe

[@andyprairiedog]

APP does make a process run more smooth. Amazing little items Lee comes up with.

[@DummyRound]

Totally worth it if you do any kind of bulk!

[@joequixotic3039]

I would get at least two, one dedicated to depriming (the dirty press) and one to use for bullet sizing, primer pocket swaging and possibly brass resizing, then get a nice single stage press for bullet seating. If you do a rotary wet tumble with SS pins after deprime, there shouldn't be anything beside lube and gunpowder to get your other presses dirty. That should give you all the benefits of single stage reloading with speed close to a progressive press if you load large enough batches, without the negative of primer residue finding its way into your resizing and bullet seating stages.

[@DummyRound]

I've already got a 550C and Rock Chucker for loading on but this is huge for prep and bullet sizing. That sounds like a great set up if I didn't have those already.

[@DanielBoone337]

I've been looking at one of these for processing brass but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. It seems like a pretty cool piece of gear to have. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

[@DummyRound]

Definitely worth it if you do anything in bulk. Thanks for checking it out!

[@travispowell2471]

Take a Dixie cup. And pour the brass in on the outer side of the bowl and shake. You will get far less wrong side up cases. Instead of them just dropping right down the tube upside down.

[@DummyRound]

That makes sense, thanks👍🇺🇲

[@jesseboutdoors]

I love my Lee APP. I’m going to order the roller handle for mine this week.

[@g-mc4507]

^^This is the Way^^

[@DummyRound]

Let us know how you like it, my hand is dead after that 5 gallons of 9mm.

[@DummyRound]

I need to grab one!

[@jesseboutdoors]

@@DummyRound the handle is about the only thing I don’t like.

[@ToolsandTargets]

This is one of the main things keeping me from doing a lot of loading. I don't have the time to sit for hours and hours reaming a bunch of primer pockets and then cleaning up all the freakin mess. I have looked at these before but everybody seems to just use a reamer the old fashioned way or setup on a drill or prep station so I figured they were no good. This looks like a HUGE time saver. I'm looking at it now. Do I need to also order the swage kit for it or does it come with that? Also I see I need the big red case holder separately and then multi tube feeder adapter. I see two adapters available. is it the one with the extra black plastic piece with it or just the adapter tubes and a couple of screws? Anything else I need or you would suggest? Thank you sir!

[@DummyRound]

It's a huge time saver and I'm kicking myself for not getting one earlier. You'll have to get each piece separately. But, it does come with shell holders for 9mm/40sw, 223/300blk, and 308/45acp so you won't need to purchase any other holders unless you're doing something other than those cases. Deluxe APP Press 90933 Case Feed Collator 90667 Universal Case Feeder 90242 Swage Kit 90237 *Roller Handle-optional(I still need one)91629 *Bench Plate-optional(if you want it removable or to switch to another Lee press)90251 *4 pk Extra Bushings-optional(not necessary if you're only swaging, but useful for your sizing dies) 90095 Midsouth has free shipping over $99 right now and MidwayUSA always has free shipping over $50 for Lee products. That should get you started but let me know if you have any other questions

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@DummyRound Thank you sir. That's exactly the stuff I had in my cart except for the bushings. I added those to it and went ahead and added the deprime kit too. There goes $300😆😆

[@DummyRound]

@@ToolsandTargets Haha, awesome! You'll enjoy it.

[@edstimator1]

If you cast your own bullets and powder coat them, the savings is astronomical. It was better when primers were cheap but there is still a buttload of money to be saved. No good if you aren't into another hobby thoug because it does take time but i'll take reloading over dancing with the has been stars any day.

[@DummyRound]

Cast and PC is totally game changing if you don't have unlimited money

[@mikedurbin1843]

if you have access to a 3D printer,make the little thingie off thingieverse to slide down in top of the collator, make the holes smaller and REALLY helps with 9mm going down case feeder the right way, works good👍

[@DummyRound]

Awesome, I was looking at some little upgrades people have made and that seems huge. Thanks!

[@hoghuntusa6711]

Most issues you run into with the APP are related to setup. Once you get used to aligning stuff, it's pretty solid. We use this to decap, size, and flare. Then charge with digital powder dropper and seat/crimp on a turret. All in all, there's no other way to produce rounds that quickly with that consistency in powder charge.

[@DummyRound]

Yessir! Once you get it dialed in it will just keep running. It is definitely the fastest single stage method for prep, swaging, sizing, expanding, bullet sizing, and everything else it was made to do. If I single stage load cartridge I'll get them prepped and primed so all I have to do is drop powder and seat bullets when I'm ready to go👍🇺🇲

[@TehBr0]

Cheers for the video, very useful. Also, I believe the 'NT' in 'Federal FC NT' stands for 'Non Toxic'. I too have found those primer pockets a bit of a pain.

[@DummyRound]

Thanks for the info! I wasn't sure👍🇺🇲🤠

[@edstimator1]

Absolutely NOTHING wrong with lee products and their customer service is second to none.

[@DummyRound]

I love 90% of my Lee products👍

[@edstimator1]

I can't imagine life without lee products. Customer service is great. some of the products are best in class, most are great and a couple require just a little tlc but they are all priced excellent.

[@DummyRound]

Yessir!

[@andy79z28]

I have one of the first LEE APP presses the shipped. It works really great. The swage is amazing. I have a electric bullet/brass feeder tak about fast. I have many videos onmy channel with tips and tricks as well. I deprimel pistol brass - 223 - 300 BO have done 30-06 but 30-06 have to feed them by hand.

[@DummyRound]

I definitely watched a few of your videos while doing some research. I'll eventually be doing bullets and sizing more brass once I finish this last bit of 9mm.

[@andy79z28]

@@DummyRound It works great for sizing cast bullets even ZInc bullets - if it is hard to size cast bullets spray them with some lanolin-alcohol will size like butter

[@DummyRound]

I'll usually throw a spray or two on them before sizing. Helps tremendously.

[@lonniemcmanners6296]

I have one of these and love it I can decap quick and don't have to put all the range crud in my sizing die

[@DummyRound]

Yes, sir!🇺🇸👍👊

[@TheDEXMAN11]

I hav no problem with resizing rimmed cases like 38 spl. 44 mag etc, but 9mm seems to pull out of the app case holder quite a bit. (no lube)

[@DummyRound]

I didn't have any issues with that in 9mm from the 5 gallons I ran, but I could imagine it being a problem since the shell holders are so thin. I tried a few 223 cases and gave up after sticking the first 2 🤣

[@emoryzakin2576]

So after 3 months would you recommend to speed things up??

[@DummyRound]

100% recommend

[@juandough6501]

Here's a tip if you're having issues with the crab claws on the case shuttle not opening and closing properly. The rectangle slot on the front side of the shuttle, just to the right of the spring mount, Cut a thin strip of THIN cardboard like from a pack matches or THIN flap from a box top. make the strip wide enuff to fit snug, fold it to length of the height of the slot. Make 2-4 folds as needed to make it fit snug but not too tight. Slide it in from the top, bend the single layer tail over to keep it from falling down in the slot, and cut it short enuff to not catch on the spring. A little trial n error, and you will be amazed at how better the crab claws work. If you take the shuttle off and work it in your hands, you'll see what this shim does.

[@DummyRound]

I have to take a screen shot of this and store it in my notes that I'll surely forget and ask a solution for later down the road. Thanks for the tip.

[@cw2a]

Mornin Man! My favorite lil bullet sizer!!! Your lil drawers there are super handy!!

[@DummyRound]

Morning! Haven't used it for bullets, yet. Can I use my existing Lee sizer or do I have to get the breech lock/APP set up? Almost done with the 5 gallons of 9mm! Had to get creative with the drawers because I lost the last bit of table top room available when I have the APP mounted. The bench plate is really nice so I can pull it off and have my normal work space back.

[@cw2a]

@@DummyRound I use the lee die sizer in my APP for a few sizes. Mostly I use the NOE sizer dies. I started before Lee had there lil minis they make now. But I like them. I just posted a video last night on how I sized before either one!

[@cw2a]

@@DummyRound YES I like these plates too. I want to route mint to be flush (is I remove screws.)

[@muthaflaco75]

Slippy's and PJ's, that's how I roll too. I got one of these APP's, haven't set it up yet though

[@DummyRound]

I reload to relax! Enjoy your APP 👊🇺🇸👍

[@2pugman]

I have been finding a few primers that seem to be "glued" into the brass. All the pieces are Norma 9 MM brass. I broke one pin trying to push out the primer. Range pickup.

[@DummyRound]

The ones that seemed glued in have came from several different head stamps, but I do remember Norma specifically having undersized flash holes, and those were especially hard to size because of that. Lee die punched right through them with no problem.

[@jamespboykin]

Have a ton of Norma Brass. Broke a couple of lee Pins ..then switched to squirl daddy... problem solved

[@DummyRound]

@@jamespboykin I've heard those are nice. The only time I break a Lee pin is when there's a stainless steel pin stuck in the case from wet tumbling that is somehow impossible to see until I've ruined my decapper. Twice now those have gotten me. I just skip tumbling with the pins now and get the same clean brass without.

[@jamespboykin]

@Dummy Round I have been using southern shine media...absolutely a game changer.. no stuck pins. And to me, cleaner than regular pins..

[@DummyRound]

@@jamespboykin I'll have to try those eventually

[@DisgustedGenXr]

Ive been running into a few of the primer cup separations. First time I’ve had that and all in 2 days. All .223

[@DummyRound]

I had some in 223 and now in 9mm cases. Are they sealing them into the pockets or what?

[@DisgustedGenXr]

@@DummyRound 🦍 glue😂🤣😂🤣

[@DisgustedGenXr]

I was thinking maybe they used a cheaper alloy or a bad batch. Too brittle for the stamp weakening the edge

[@DummyRound]

I have no idea but I've seen it from 2 different cartridges and like 20 headstamps between those. This brass was also out of the mud and pretty nasty, so maybe there was some sort of corrosion or something happening?

[@DisgustedGenXr]

@@DummyRound i have picked up some nasty stuff just to see if it will clean up and never seen that. Must be a bad batch floating around

[@johnoakley5544]

Do you have the roller handle upgrade? Saved me some blisters.

[@DummyRound]

It's on the list of things to eventually spend more money on lol

[@johnoakley5544]

@@DummyRound that's why I still dry tumble haha.

[@DummyRound]

@@johnoakley5544 everybody has a list like that lol

[@marcthomas2482]

Good stuff DR! I may have to add one to my growing collection.

[@DummyRound]

Yes you do! It comes with 3 shell holders that I would have had to purchase(9mm/40sw, 223, and 308/45acp), so there's some added savings in there. You can use the same quick change bench plate set up. The newer bottle design is the same as the powder measures so there's some redundancy there if you need parts or extras. Super handy and you can do every single part of the reloading process with it. JRB loaded 1000 rounds of 223 from start to finish. Very handy and has more uses than are advertised for it.

[@scotthuggins8600]

Do you have to lube your 9mm cases for sizing with the lee?

[@DummyRound]

Generally, no straight wall pistol cases need lube with modern dies. But, if I know I'm going to be tumbling them before loading, I'll sometimes size separately with lube and have them set aside cleaned for whenever I'm going to load👍🇺🇸

[@scotthuggins8600]

@DummyRound. My brass gets stuck in the holder as the Lee die pulls up too hard and the brass begins to tear at the case bottom. Some cases will pull out of the holder and I need to take apart the die to remove.

[@DummyRound]

I've had that happen on rifle cases and gave up after a few stuck. Have you tried with lube? What kind? It will help, a lot, but shouldn't be required. Also, the thin crappy shell holders seem to he hit or miss as to how much material they're actually holding onto.

[@scotthuggins8600]

@@DummyRound On 223 I use lube and it works okay. I haven't tried lube on the 9mm yet, but I will. I think that will solve it. If I use a regular shell holder it's better but still has some issues and I lose the fast processing part.

[@DummyRound]

@@scotthuggins8600 you might just have one on the sloppier side of the tolerances. The lube should help. Good luck👍

[@nickjm37fordel1]

I have hear nothing but good about that press. Why not full length size on the progressive press ?

[@DummyRound]

Cases need swage more often than not, can't trim if needed, don't want lube on/inside my loaded rounds, etc.

[@lukasstrne3780]

Have you tried it for sizing bullets yet?

[@DummyRound]

Actually, I have not. Wasn't ready to rebuy all the sizing dies. People seem to like it. Do you have any experience?

[@lukasstrne3780]

@@DummyRound not yet!... I have been doing PC in my Star and RCBS type sizer

[@jimv.661]

Are you using a 9 mm sizing die, or a Makarov sizing die?

[@DummyRound]

9mm Luger for 9mm Luger cases. I don't shoot 9mm Mak. This was just swaging, anyways.

[@jimv.661]

@@DummyRound OK, I knew you were swaging 9nn Luger, I know for removing bulges from Luger brass, people use the Mak die.

[@DummyRound]

I'll keep that in mind👍

[@jimv.661]

@@DummyRound Since you were sizing 9mm and they seemed to be coming out spec (fitting into your gauge), I assumed you were also using the setup to debulge the 9mm cases which got me interested. And, you aren't using the Mak die as others do. I contacted LEE to see about the setup. Here is what LEE said, "We do not have a solution for the 9mm bulge!" So, now I'm confused. What are you using on the APP to swage the cases into spec?

[@DummyRound]

Crimped primer pockets are annoying, so I'm swaging those out. Never had any issues with bulged cases in 9mm.

[@bigrickshaberdashery2759]

learning curve, but worth it

[@DummyRound]

Totally worth it👍

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

I need to get one of these lee Thingies

[@DummyRound]

Totally worth it!

[@30-06john]

Nice tool! I'll have to look into that!

[@DummyRound]

It's very handy👍🇺🇸👊

[@T.A.B.Videos]

Seeing a few of them out here

[@DummyRound]

Very useful and worth the money if you are on the fence.

[@krod2162]

Reloading snobs don't like Lee products

[@DummyRound]

I don't care who makes it as long as it works!

[@krod2162]

I bought a lot of Lee products in 30 years I've been reloading and they always work and they're reasonably priced

[@DummyRound]

Yessir!

[@Maine307]

i been using this for 2 yrs now, especially for decapping my mil crimp 556. HINT: purchase a mighty armory decapper- no pins will break 1005 garuntee, even punches through boxer . also, if u CALL LEE and take a PICTURE of ur base model, they will send you an upgraded DELUX model for 50 % off!

[@DummyRound]

It's a great press, too bad I've already gotten all of the upgrades that make it the deluxe version. Thanks👍🇺🇲

[@azazelakira12]

If it works it ships, I will save my money and but a RL1100 from dillon, I will hate to mix brands now

[@DummyRound]

That was my other option, but this was 1/5th the cost 😳

[@JacksonMalcolm]

Is the APP beefy enough to remove 5.56 crimps?

[@DummyRound]

Depriming and swaging 556 is no issue, but sizing can be problematic as the x press shell holders don't have a lot of meat on the case head. But deprime and swage is cake since it doesn't have to pull back up🇺🇲👍

[@JacksonMalcolm]

@DummyRound great to hear, my sizing/decapping all happens on a RCBS with the inline auto ejector. After it's cleaned, it's fed to the 550c. My real slow spot is bulk processing of once fired brass. Gets old quick between trimming and swaging.

[@DummyRound]

My pile of once fired should last me a life time once I actually process it the first time and rotate through it accordingly. I just really hate brass prep 😆 so I've just been doing smaller batches(500-1k) at a time as needed

[@brokeloader]

App works well.

[@DummyRound]

It's funny how everybody that has used one absolutely loves it, and the only haters are people that just say, "lol all Lee sucks".

[@chuckfinley3152]

YoU dOwN wItH APP?!?!?!

[@DummyRound]

Yes, sir. We know each other.

[@jamespboykin]

Yo KnOw Me!

[@mckwilly]

👍😃💪

[@DummyRound]

Howdy there, brother!