This Church Guest Follow-Up System Is…Unusual

[@TreyVanCamp]

I love this. We switched to the $5 donation model after you mentioned it. We saw an uptick in people filling it out as a result.

[@prochurchtools]

Wow. That's actually surprising to me if I'm being honest. At my most cynical, I might expect *getting* a gift would be more enticing than *receiving* a gift. Just shows that people want to be part of affecting life change of others when they're part of a church!

[@TreyVanCamp]

@@prochurchtools yea we have found people feel bad about wanting to get a gift. They’d rather give in that instance. Which saves us a lot of money 🙌

[@mikepanton]

I love the idea of partnering with guests to give to a charity

[@Blackjack-16]

Thanks this video was helpful.. Following from liberia 🇱🇷 west Africa

[@prochurchtools]

Angry mug video is here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/noXQZXmip9uSoa8

[@MrKevinKlatt]

😂 (from_a_podcast_listener)

[@JoshuaJohnson-yc5ze]

Honestly can’t wait. I’ve been looking for something better than mugs but can’t find the right POV against them either lol

[@andrewbrown784]

Looking forward to it!

[@SamuelSutter]

this seems wise - thanks Brady!

[@revceverson]

Hey Brady! On the list of missions for giving, you give examples of national missions (Boys and Girls Club, National Suicide etc) We are looking at using local missions in our community. The only issue I see is that there isn't a easy way to tell what the ministries are. This is great! Thank you!

[@prochurchtools]

For sure. I used those for the purposes of this video as placeholders. Most churches will want to use local organizations like you said! To help with context, you can always add in brackets what their mission supports.

[@dudecurry3018]

Thank you so much!! These videos are so helpful!

[@prochurchtools]

Glad to hear it!

[@MrKevinKlatt]

100% ❤

[@stephenfrancis6898]

This is brilliant

[@rudyvaldano]

Thanks

[@mattkeithdesigns]

Love this idea. Love the idea of getting people immediately connected with mission and values. Have you done any sort of "case study" with any churches using this strategy? We struggle to get folks to fill out a Connect Card in general because most folks just aren't as willing to part with any info. We've tried QR codes, physical cards, etc. Lessening the amount of info we ask for, but still not a ton of cards coming in. Have you seen this strategy result in more cards coming in? More connections made? Also, is there anything you're doing on the admin side of things just to keep track of how many donations go to each of the charities?

[@andybarras]

Totally agree with the mug sentiment, but I'm not sure how I feel about our charitable giving being determined by how many new people come along? We have a Missions Committee which divvy up our mission budget each year - 15% of the giving we recieve. >Okay you just spoke to this point as I was typing this comment. I still have reservations about this model, but probably because of the systems we have in place already.

[@portraitchurch]

I like this but what's the next step to get the rest of their into like address phone number etc?

[@prochurchtools]

If that is information that you need you could add that to your Flow capturing the information. The nice thing about asking for info one step at a time is that it does give you more leeway to ask for *more* overall information. Because it comes one at at time it *feels* like you're asking for less than if you had it in a big form all at once. You could also capture this additional info in a follow-up email or later on in the sequence if you didn't want to risk it affecting form return rate.

[@TheChurchLab]

Why do churches assume visitors don’t want to get involved or grow in their faith after filling out a guest card? Like, I could be having brunch right now but I decided to drive to your church and attend a service, and instead of sliding out the back mid service, I gave you my personal info.

[@prochurchtools]

Have you had experiences where churches don't follow-up after you've filled out a guest card? Is that what you're referring to?

[@billloomis9375]

Nr

[@LovingJesus1]

How do you, mask yourself with text behind you, what editing software do you use

[@prochurchtools]

Da Vinci Resolve

[@dakotacarrington6836]

I love the donation idea, however how do you handle when someone wants their donation to go to a pro-choice organization like planed parenthood?

[@mcjillybean]

Around the 8:40 mark he shows the follow up email that allows people to choose their charity. If I caught what he was talking about (I'm multitasking lol) they aren't just sending in the name of any charity they want, they are choosing from a short list your church predetermined. Then your church isn't sending donations to organizations that don't align with your values. :)

[@prochurchtools]

@mcjillybean is right. The reason we have choose from a list of pre-approved charities is to give them the autonomy of choice, but from a list of organizations that align with your church.

[@jwallace1109]

for some wild reason.. I can't connect my email/message to the flow and vice versa.. I get a confirmation saying that I filled it out.. but not the welcome/gift message

[@prochurchtools]

Glad to help out with this. Shoot us an email to [e-mail]!

[@jarrodspalding1997]

Was building this sequence today and wanted to know how you'd handle the possible confusion for the first time guest when they receive an email with their form receipt and an email from the follow up sequence. Is there a way to turn off the receipt email? Or I am making too much of the guest getting two emails?

[@prochurchtools]

Yeah, I wouldn’t sweat that. One is a “transactional” email (the receipt). The other is a “marketing” email (the welcome). Very common.

[@jarrodspalding1997]

@@prochurchtoolsThat makes sense. One more question. I can create the QR code and the redirect link you suggest in the connect card video but can't seem to find the link to the info card for first time guests. That's assuming the redirect is supposed to open the info card that presents the guest with the $5 donation idea. How do I link to the info card?

[@daregon11]

First!

[@theverystones2643]

The 5$ donation would really annoy me. I’d click off