This Comic Artist Was FRIENDS With Jeffery Dahmer

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@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
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@lorenjorgenzzz
@lorenjorgenzzz 7 ай бұрын
I wish Derf was known better for his comics and his own life, then just being an eyewitness and scribe to Dahmer’s high school life. He had such a unique talent and style.
@shobooknight
@shobooknight 7 ай бұрын
Yeah his comic about kent stste was great and so was trashed
@VengefulNonsense
@VengefulNonsense 7 ай бұрын
His style is so cool. I'm waiting for more of his work to come out (if it does). His journalistic approach to writing comics is also extremely commendable.
@LuxuryPossum
@LuxuryPossum 7 ай бұрын
Punk Rock and Trailer Parks is a really fun story, especially for fans of early punk! I would also recommend it to anybody wanting to get into that genre, because Derf provides a playlist of songs to go along with the story.
@gracehammond8484
@gracehammond8484 7 ай бұрын
ngl the way you worded this implied he died or something
@fereil23
@fereil23 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree. I hope some of his art gets the recognition it deserves!
@matthewbrunell413
@matthewbrunell413 7 ай бұрын
The comic had a scene i never forgot. Derf is told one of his classmates was a serial killer. Dahmer was only his second guess.
@Fishyfish300
@Fishyfish300 3 ай бұрын
I wonder who his first guess was
@theokkali467
@theokkali467 2 ай бұрын
@@Fishyfish300 Same. Maybe tell the author.
@Fishyfish300
@Fishyfish300 2 ай бұрын
@@theokkali467 meh it's prolly better to not know for privacy reasons n all
@johncruelty20
@johncruelty20 2 ай бұрын
​@FinnLeFish it was some other strange bully kid in his class
@MurraytheCat
@MurraytheCat 10 күн бұрын
@@Fishyfish300derf’s first guess was a guy named Figg, he was supposed to be a horrible person
@graveleater9746
@graveleater9746 7 ай бұрын
My parents say they met Derf at the same coffee shop in Cleveland they went on their first date at. I still have a signed copy of My Friend Dahmer that's older than I am.
@josephwirtz7120
@josephwirtz7120 7 ай бұрын
Was it Arabica on Coventry.
@EliMontefusco
@EliMontefusco 3 күн бұрын
And they just happened to bring their book to that shop?
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid 7 ай бұрын
One really important thing to take in is that Derf didn't see Jeffery as a 'victim of society' the same way as a lot of the crime 'fan girls' see him, where they act as if the rest of the world should have coddled him or what he did was somehow a sign of empowerment or anti-establishment. He knows and recognizes what Jeffrey did was monstrous and that his victims didn't deserve this but at the same time recognizes that Jeffery was a product of his upbringing. There were bad factors in all of this and what he did was give a very interesting and unglamorous view of what happened during their time in highschool. Ajd maybe that's why it works. It's an unglamorous story about a man who did horrible and unglamorous things and we get to see how uncomfortable he made even his peers feel. Edit: Just wanted to add that Derf is right on how some adults COULD have intervened but if they didn't know what was going on either, HOW COULD THEY? We always here that being said when something bad happens but in a lot of cases, there are no signs, there are no indications, and you can't guess that something bigger is happening from events that appear do typical or mundane at the surface. Jeffrey was good at manipulating and finding vivtims through a commonality of being gay in the 80s and 90s. To his victims, he could have been seen as that one outlet of freedom which is what made him so dangerous. When you're desperate you look for any signs of hope and freedom and Jeffrey recognized and knew how to exploit it. His story is interesting but it feels over time that people have transformed him into a victim when he wasn't which is why the comic is refreshing. It's the literal 'ugly truth' of the matter and shows how this kid who essentially had a mundane life made his own choice to kill people.
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse 7 ай бұрын
Re: People could have gotten him help, the part of the book that has always stuck with me was the part in the intro where Derf's girlfriend was telling him the news that someone from his hometown had been arrested for all of these horrible murders, and she wanted him to guess who it was. And Derf named a *different* guy, because that guy was "worse" in high school. And because he was so much "worse", that guy *did* get help. Meanwhile, the kid who skipped class all the time when he wasn’t showing up drunk, but was mostly quiet and non-disruptive just slipped through the cracks...
@sanobunz
@sanobunz 7 ай бұрын
he literally just had a lot going on and used killing as an emotional outlet. researchers really wanted to take his brain just to find out he was depressed and neurodivergent. reminds me of that one research saying "killers happen to pee the bed"
@Ecstacy333
@Ecstacy333 7 ай бұрын
​@@sanobunz the phrasing "just had a lot going on" really doesnt pair well with homicidal/sexual assaulting tendancies. I do beleive that people who plan on acting on homicide and have those thoughts can be rehabilitated the same way someone suicidal cam recover, hell i also think if the prison system was better some of these people could be rehabilitated (not fully introduced back into society but to a controlled setting) but phrasing it like that sounds kindaa weird lol
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 7 ай бұрын
@@sanobunzreaserchers some weirdos brah 😭
@chrisdiokno5600
@chrisdiokno5600 7 ай бұрын
@@sanobunz Yeah, there's been a lot of odd research on serial killers
@realmajorx3698
@realmajorx3698 7 ай бұрын
I hate how the movie producers turned his book into a "sympathy for dahmer" movie when his book pointed out all facets of dahmer. It didn't even empathize with dahmer in the way that the dumb film did
@terrencemoldern2756
@terrencemoldern2756 5 ай бұрын
It didn’t do that tho? It’s honestly a fairly accurate movie adoption to the book. It’s just that Cinematography can feel so much more personal since you are watching it rather then reading... Also I’m just saying. Having some sympathy isn’t wrong buddy. Having no sympathy at all is exactly what leads to people like Dahmer in the first place...
@CatBxtchNami
@CatBxtchNami 5 ай бұрын
@@terrencemoldern2756 Empathy must have a end point, after he did what he did, he did not deserve it anymore.
@terrencemoldern2756
@terrencemoldern2756 5 ай бұрын
@@CatBxtchNami by that logic. Empathy cannot be applied to any case really. As there isn’t a consistent line to be drawn. You can say he doesn’t deserve any for what he did. Then I can shoot back with “Neither do Trump Supporters” or “Bully’s deserve it also”... That’s the problem with your way of thinking. It’s untrue and you yourself can change where the line is drawn whenever and WHEREVER you want. That isn’t a good, consistent moral framework. (Btw those are not beliefs reflective of me... just examples)
@terrencemoldern2756
@terrencemoldern2756 5 ай бұрын
@@enmunap the difference between the two really isn’t that vast so your point is mute... One you understand how they feel... the other you feel bad for them... Both require some personal understanding of said person. That being said, you didn’t debunk or disprove anything I’ve said. You just come off as ignorant when you write like that. Wether you empathize or sympathize doesn’t matter. My point is that your “hate” and “vitriol” is a MASSIVE reason why things never get any better or improve... You people remind me of the persons that stood outside of Ted Buddy’s prison (might be some other monster)... literally camping and waiting for the execution and SCREAMING to see blood. Then you same people wonder how psychopaths grow to worship blood in their own way... Not accusing you of being as bad. Not even close. But you dam well are apart of the catalyst for many of them being born and created. You and society at large. Real sad how you modern day people act morally above and superior to our history’s... meanwhile you are no different then Romans cheering to see the lion eat the gladiator in the Colosseum...
@mark1skeletard726
@mark1skeletard726 5 ай бұрын
​@@terrencemoldern2756you could have use any other example yet you still try to bring politics into this
@Maurice-192
@Maurice-192 6 ай бұрын
I had a friend who really liked gore and who planned a shooting in our school when we were in 8th grade. School shootings where I currently live are strange and almost non existent (Spain), She didn't go through with it because she got caught and I was unaware of her intensions. Being friends with someone who likes to hurt other people is honestly terrifying
@CatBxtchNami
@CatBxtchNami 5 ай бұрын
Woman serial killer? Very rare.
@chantillycat5415
@chantillycat5415 4 ай бұрын
​@@CatBxtchNaminot so sure they're that "rare". People just assume killings are done by males. I suspect some of the unsolved murders out there are unsolved because they only looked at the possibility of male culprits.
@topcatfan
@topcatfan 2 ай бұрын
​@@CatBxtchNami attempted* also pointing it out only normalises it as an exception, we can't keep doing this if we want more women in this field of work
@sceneshootergirl88
@sceneshootergirl88 2 ай бұрын
Based
@topcatfan
@topcatfan 2 ай бұрын
@@sceneshootergirl88 only in Ohio
@DriverWeb
@DriverWeb 7 ай бұрын
I haven't read the book, but I'd guess its way more tasteful and thought out than the Dahmer show, which made a shot-for-shot recreation of one of the victims sisters breaking down in the court room.
@justaguyonyoutube4592
@justaguyonyoutube4592 7 ай бұрын
Because the show is a biography, therefore is going to be a shot-for-shot of some moments that happened throughout the time he spent.
@DriverWeb
@DriverWeb 7 ай бұрын
​@@justaguyonyoutube4592 A detail I forgot to mention was that they apparently didn't have permission to do that.
@nickythehickey
@nickythehickey 7 ай бұрын
@@justaguyonyoutube4592yeah but they did that without ever even consulting the family members in question, who didn’t want the show to exist at all, much less those scenes. to make a shot for shot recreation of someone’s breakdown when they gave you the opposite of permission is extremely poor taste
@Pinkmen-ho3fz
@Pinkmen-ho3fz 7 ай бұрын
The show just depicted dahmer as a two dimensional pervert and nothing else in the my friend dahmer movie they have a more human and realistic version of him
@Gandalfthegoldenbird
@Gandalfthegoldenbird 3 ай бұрын
@@justaguyonyoutube4592you already got a dunce cap or you need one shipped to your house?
@lamechannelboring4008
@lamechannelboring4008 7 ай бұрын
I remember reading this book at school and I didn't think it was a true story at the time.
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
Yea it’s such a crazy idea that it seems made up, that’s what make this story more interesting
@GirtheAlienGoldfish
@GirtheAlienGoldfish 7 ай бұрын
Derf would hang out at the Marc's grocery store in Parma, Ohio when I used to live in Cleveland. He caught my eye a few times because he would just be sitting around and people-watching. He's a cool dude. Quiet, but nice enough.
@dropdeaddrawing
@dropdeaddrawing 7 ай бұрын
Im glad people are talking about DERF more. His work is so stellar and unique
@hailkingrex
@hailkingrex 7 ай бұрын
i love this comic. it's an amazingly empathetic look at what made one of the most notorious killers
@joshuagraham2843
@joshuagraham2843 7 ай бұрын
He was the first chris chan, but maaan it was kinda wholesome but i wouldnt dare to watch netflix
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 7 ай бұрын
​@@joshuagraham2843what do you mean
@kittypryde571
@kittypryde571 7 ай бұрын
@@joshuagraham2843 Touch grass dude. This has nonthing to do with Chris Chan.
@Pinkmen-ho3fz
@Pinkmen-ho3fz 7 ай бұрын
I like how in the movie they have a realistic human portrayal of him so that if you remove the murder parts you feel like you can relate to him it’s not making you empathetic for him but it makes you understand why he might have done it
@iatecielssoulsorrysebastian
@iatecielssoulsorrysebastian 5 ай бұрын
@@joshuagraham2843I’m a Chris Chan follower too man, but God this was not the right place to bring them up at. Time and place.
@hatefacethegoatmonster4674
@hatefacethegoatmonster4674 7 ай бұрын
What I liked the most about "My Friend Dahmer" was that Derf didn't do what a lot of people do when talking about friends and family that turned out to be bad people. Instead of putting all the blame on someone or something else or saying something along the lines of "Oh, I can't believe he did something like this"
@CatBxtchNami
@CatBxtchNami 5 ай бұрын
Dahmer was his second guess for a serial killer classmate.
@ponikoTV
@ponikoTV 7 ай бұрын
being friends whit a serial killer sounds scary
@wojciechkomar197
@wojciechkomar197 7 ай бұрын
It sounds more safe then scary, at least you will never be his target
@hdervish2497
@hdervish2497 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, because you'll never know until they get caught or turn on you
@dixierekt8096
@dixierekt8096 7 ай бұрын
​@@wojciechkomar197"don't come to school tomorrow"
@kerdnerl
@kerdnerl 7 ай бұрын
Better than being enemies
@soaringthrough315
@soaringthrough315 7 ай бұрын
@@wojciechkomar197to be fair most serial killers start with their close friends
@danielsmokesmids
@danielsmokesmids 7 ай бұрын
the “is it okay to make a story about the holocaust or slavery” isnt really even similar. all stories about the holocaust and slavery i’ve seen show them to be unequivocally evil. the dahmer netflix show didnt do that.
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 7 ай бұрын
The Dahmer Netflix show really glorified and exposed this fascination some white homosexuals have with fetishizing and subjugating black guys
@andrewk.7498
@andrewk.7498 7 ай бұрын
The vermin in media love to try to make you sympathetic to utter irredeemable people.
@justaguyonyoutube4592
@justaguyonyoutube4592 7 ай бұрын
I dunno, I think it did as it showed just how monstrous he was. Edit because I felt lazy before: Thing is, I’m not defending anything he ever did or was, but it’s the fact that the show doesn’t at all sugarcoat it. If anything, by that logic, anything revolving around slaves could be seen as pretty much the same. Of course, this revolves around the basis of subjectivity at best, but to say one thing is bad while supporting another thing that’s just almost like it is calling the kettle black don’t you think?
@krueger92
@krueger92 7 ай бұрын
You don’t think that Netflix show made him look evil? He tried to trick/intimidate his neighbour into eating a human meat sandwich for daring to complain about the awful smell and noises coming from his apartment.
@halguy5745
@halguy5745 7 ай бұрын
have you even seen the show? he is portrayed as evil and mentally ill. half of the show isn't even about him, but about his victims
@soloscape3
@soloscape3 7 ай бұрын
Obviously Derf wasn't trying to justify Jeffrey's actions by telling how much he had suffered prior everything he did, I don't think humanizing Jef is a bad aspect of the comic, I think it's a good way to come back to reality and realize that a human being did all of those atrocious acts since most people don't see serial killers as humans but as monsters
@LuxuryPossum
@LuxuryPossum 7 ай бұрын
Derf is a Cleveland legend, especially with his City comics. I love when I get a chance to go to local art shows in the area and he has a booth set up. I've talked to him before about his comics, and bought old Marvel comics off of him. He's a really cool guy. I recommend Punk Rock and Trailer parks for anyone interested in his work, but maybe not so into the morbid reality of My Friend Dahmer.
@meth_raccoon
@meth_raccoon 7 ай бұрын
I watched the movie adaptation when it first came out and lots of people were talking about it at school. I was skeptical when I first saw the trailers bc I expected it to be like some other badly done serial killer movies, but it was pretty good
@MercSamurai09
@MercSamurai09 7 ай бұрын
I remember reading My Friend Dahmer for my English class during my Sophomore of high school and I was shocked to find out that the author knew who Jeffery Dahmer was.
@fenekart
@fenekart 7 ай бұрын
I almost became friends with murderer. I love walking at second hand shop, looking for goth and alternative clothes. Very often in my favourite second hand i used to see punk boy with the group of alt girls. I tought it would be cool to have someone with similiar style and together going to a second hand hunt, but my social phobia always kicked in. Well it saved me because later this punk boy killed 13yo girl. Last time i saw him was a day after murder, he just went shopping like nothing happened. Its a very strange feeling, and i cant imagine being "friend" with one.
@Woasdlfe
@Woasdlfe 7 ай бұрын
Why'd he do it? And how old was he?
@fenekart
@fenekart 7 ай бұрын
@@Woasdlfe He was 18. There was a lot of theories. From some "satanic" mumbo jumbo, to his girlfriend telling him to murder this girl (they even had selfie on instagram with her body hidden behind a piece of carton they hold) Second option is most likely.
@HorribleHomeVideo
@HorribleHomeVideo 7 ай бұрын
I went to high school with, and hung out with justin Roiland daily for years up until he moved to LA. do you know how fucking weird it was seeing rick & morty shit everywhere while you struggle working a shit job? that shit lead me to drinking for awhile. i was bitter. i'm better now (probably helped he fumbled)
@d.52555
@d.52555 7 ай бұрын
What made you jealous of him? Sounds like he did you dirty considering you’re happy that he got cancelled.
@andrefilipe9042
@andrefilipe9042 7 ай бұрын
​@@d.52555I guess he was jealous of Roland's success while he was himself was lacking financially and otherwise.
@cake_9510
@cake_9510 7 ай бұрын
​@@d.52555 "cancelled" lmao he was made to take responsibility.
@NINJA-FOX.Productions
@NINJA-FOX.Productions 6 ай бұрын
We’re you able to communicate with Roiland while he was in LA?
@LikeYoungMike
@LikeYoungMike 6 ай бұрын
@@d.52555seems like they were good friends and he may have changed after success
@JoyfulNerd400
@JoyfulNerd400 7 ай бұрын
I suggest you read Maus. It’s a story that uses a massive historical event but also makes it clear that it is bad and should be remembered
@tonybippitykaye
@tonybippitykaye 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. On the surface it’s a mouse son talking to his mouse father about his experience in the Holocaust while also reflecting on his often tense relationship with him, but it’s a genuinely harrowing and brutal first hand account of just how terrible Nazi Germany and the Holocaust were and why we can never let something like that happen again.
@jonsrecordcollection7172
@jonsrecordcollection7172 7 ай бұрын
The movie My Friend Dahmer is actually way more restrained than you would think. It's all about backstory & how Dahmer got to be how he is. The movie ends with Dahmer picking up the gay hitchhiker who became his first murder victim.
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
The movie is a perfect segway into the Netflix show tbh
@brendan9868
@brendan9868 7 ай бұрын
Might not really define celebrity, but I went to school with a p*rnstar lol. She lived down the road from me, even came to my place a few times in like early high school. I do feel bad for her a bit, I don’t think she had many options. No father in her life, mom was a junkie, lived in a group home that was constantly getting raided by cops and not to be mean, but she wasn’t the brightest.
@yahtforott4706
@yahtforott4706 6 ай бұрын
That’s really sad ☹️ I’m really sad that some people’s lives go to stuff like that. Sometimes it’s not even their fault. Just a product of their environment
@scottbulinski5450
@scottbulinski5450 3 ай бұрын
What’s her name
@airsir9559
@airsir9559 7 күн бұрын
@@scottbulinski5450asking the real questions.
@purpleYamask
@purpleYamask 7 ай бұрын
My high school library had a copy of My Friend Dahmer, and between the story itself and the wonderfully distinct art, I cannot recommend it enough if you can stomach some milder instances of Dahmer's... proclivities.
@disgoop
@disgoop 7 ай бұрын
as usual comics can represent grim topics more truthfully and with more dignity than other mediums
@cartwrightworm1317
@cartwrightworm1317 7 ай бұрын
A similar book is Did You Hear What Eddie Gein Done? It’s another graphic novel based on a murderer.
@theloneartist6059
@theloneartist6059 6 ай бұрын
I got that book its one of my favourite
@lyokianhitchhiker
@lyokianhitchhiker 26 күн бұрын
Was it also written by a friend of the subject of the story?
@joysuperteen8120
@joysuperteen8120 8 ай бұрын
This channel needs more support, your content is amazing bro.....i need to read this book now😮
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 8 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏾 the support is coming for sure ,and you should give it a read!
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, just about a thousand subscribers is not enough for this guy
@josephwirtz7120
@josephwirtz7120 7 ай бұрын
My favorite cartoon by Derf was about Mr. Rogers at the time of his death. It was so well done that it made me cry. Thanks for that Derf. Maybe ill see you hanging out on Coventry.
@wolvertox311
@wolvertox311 7 ай бұрын
Friends seems like a bit of a stretch. The comics goes to great lengths to create distance between Dahmer and his crimes and the narrator.
@Da_bear-ij9gm
@Da_bear-ij9gm 7 ай бұрын
Great lengths hm? Not great enough to get past the title tho ig
@Stirfry47
@Stirfry47 Ай бұрын
"My former acquaintance Dahmer"
@lyokianhitchhiker
@lyokianhitchhiker 26 күн бұрын
It seems like the friendship was close before everything went down
@autisticautomaton
@autisticautomaton 7 ай бұрын
I met him once when I was 13. Follow him online, nice guy. Written some cool stuff
@dildonius
@dildonius 7 ай бұрын
Jeffery Dahmer?!
@TheBrilliantBrick
@TheBrilliantBrick 6 ай бұрын
I thought you were talking about the other guy for a moment…
@sparrowproductions4122
@sparrowproductions4122 2 ай бұрын
I like the idea that Derf doesn’t wanna show the story from Dahmer pov but his own. And that’s something that the Netflix show struggled with. When we get scenes or an entire show from a serial killers perspective on real life events it can be misleading and uncomfortable and controversial. Where as this story was more so a telling of his experiences with this man and how things began to piece together once it was revealed that he was in fact a serial killer.
@kylebroflovski9690
@kylebroflovski9690 2 ай бұрын
Bros name cracks me tf up lmfao derf backderf😭😭
@Doofus_McDang
@Doofus_McDang 6 ай бұрын
"Derf Backderf" common guy i cant be the only one in tears here 😂
@Computergirl567
@Computergirl567 7 ай бұрын
I brought the "my friend dahmer" comic book home with me in 6th grade. My mom saw me reading it and then called the school and yelled at the principal for letting a middle schooler have a book about a serial killer
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
That’s tough,dude you eventually end up reading it ?
@Computergirl567
@Computergirl567 7 ай бұрын
@@Covaslookout i never finished it sadly, I want to buy it. The art is pretty cool
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
@@Computergirl567 you really should
@vhs3760
@vhs3760 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the recommendation! I was able to get a copy through my local library app and I'm planning to read it this afternoon
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! it’s a quick and enjoyable read
@vhs3760
@vhs3760 7 ай бұрын
@@Covaslookout yeah, just finished it! great art and storytelling. thank you again!
@hikarik268
@hikarik268 7 ай бұрын
I actually read his comic called my friend dahmer when I was younger funny to see this pop on my recommended
@Silver_Spectre
@Silver_Spectre 7 ай бұрын
As soon as I heard the name Derf all I could imagine was Derf from the Fred Movie
@Procc75
@Procc75 7 ай бұрын
I read this comic in high school english class. Was very good. It was interesting because they weren't friends, but they weren't just accquaintances either Jeffrey dahmer was the weird kid who attracted attention. Derf and his friends thought it was funny and hung out with him to see more, egg him on even. It wasnt until derf peeled back the curtain and took a deeper look, that he realized there is something *seriously* wrong with this person. He doesn't feel sorry for him or try to explain his behavior. Its just shocking that someone derf didnt take all that seriously, turned out to be a gamechanger within our society in the worst way.
@Adriiiiiiii1
@Adriiiiiiii1 5 ай бұрын
Read this book in a "Comics" elective class, was interesting.
@DanTheDusty
@DanTheDusty 5 ай бұрын
I read the title as "this author was friends with Jeff kinney" wtf
@A-1-Sawce
@A-1-Sawce 7 ай бұрын
I went to high school in the Bay Area, Cali, went with the guy that did JTHM/Invader Zim, Jhonen Vazquez. But beside him I've met a few celebs here and there, not sure if I've met a murderer lol.
@dildonius
@dildonius 7 ай бұрын
Well, you met the father of a homicidal maniac.
@lnnttr
@lnnttr 6 ай бұрын
no way seriously I graduated high school last year from a Bay Area school as well, who knows how everyone will turn out
@AnthonyRusso93
@AnthonyRusso93 7 ай бұрын
They weren't even friends they just knew of one another
@chicken-films10
@chicken-films10 7 ай бұрын
"I knew Jeffrey Dahmer" Yeah that will sell well.
@juicee828
@juicee828 7 ай бұрын
@@chicken-films10😭😭😭
@VengefulNonsense
@VengefulNonsense 7 ай бұрын
He was literally in a Dahmer fan club (or so he claims) which to me sounds a bit more than "just knowing" him. Were they close friends? No, definitely not.
@ilpensatore1462
@ilpensatore1462 7 ай бұрын
7:25 that will make a friend, at least in my book. Idk what your standards are but someone who is in your social group is the definition of friend, he never said they were long lasting bff
@dildonius
@dildonius 7 ай бұрын
They were school friends. Which is more than "just knowing of one another." Doesn't make them best buddies, but more than just knowing the other is a person who existed. They hung out at school and at parties. And for a while he was in Derf's friend group. Maybe actually read the book instead of just repeating what you heard other people said about it.
@shmittymaloggian192
@shmittymaloggian192 7 ай бұрын
This is the first book we all read in my Reading class in college. As soon as I got from ordering online, I finished the book on the same day. It's without a doubt, the most fascinating book I've read in college and kind of made me look into more famous serial killers
@hypersniper71
@hypersniper71 7 ай бұрын
As long as you don't start loving them for what they did.... I mean its totally normal to be reading books like that my dad has a few books about serial killers and war and a bunch shit as long as your not like "OMG JEFERY DHARMER IS THE BEST I WANNA BE LIKE HIM" . Nice gorillaz pfp btw tho
@morgboat744
@morgboat744 4 ай бұрын
i gotta say i love Derf’s art style so much, it reminds me a bit of FKMT’s art in the sense that both are unapologetically ugly because of the subject matter being pretty ugly too.
@U.F.O_0908
@U.F.O_0908 4 ай бұрын
Dude these videos are some niche stuff. Absolutely love it.
@ThruHerSkull
@ThruHerSkull 7 ай бұрын
I hope you talk about more weird comics/manga in the future. Check out Doing Time by Kazuichi Hanawa. Interesting manga about being in prison. With My Friend Dahmer, I think the last 5 ish pages are really haunting when he finds out it was Dahmer. That’s always stuck with me even though I read it over 9 years ago.
@hrtbmn
@hrtbmn Ай бұрын
I love Trashed. Was my first introduction to his work and I love his storytelling
@TjValentine1
@TjValentine1 7 ай бұрын
Reading Maus by Art Spieglman, touchy topics just need to be handled well. Sometimes not even respectfully, but at the very least unbiased and true to the persons experience
@PatDK
@PatDK 4 ай бұрын
I think you are msking way too much of the issue considering he didnt make a story about dahmer as a serial killer, its more like him and the realization after about signs that were there
@Shannonbarnesdr1
@Shannonbarnesdr1 5 ай бұрын
the fact his name is ''Derff'' is a miracle he didnt become a social pariah from a lifetime of being mocked for his name and ostracized for it. i think its great that hes had his ups and downs, but became a decent artist and has seemed to make a life for himself.
@moor236
@moor236 5 ай бұрын
His name is John, his nickname is Derf
@PolkaVodka77
@PolkaVodka77 7 ай бұрын
i meet derf in a french comics convention i show him a draw he like it he is so nice
@Michie322
@Michie322 7 ай бұрын
Please learn how to balance your volume. Every other clip is way louder or quieter.
@itsbirb7703
@itsbirb7703 5 ай бұрын
My Library has this book. It was in the teens section I think? I was around 17? Took it out and read it. It was such a fascinating and horrifying read that doesn't sugarcoat it like like most media do. Got me into the true crime fandom (regret) and left like a year later. Derf's style def influenced me to improve my art. What a hell of a era.
@CatBxtchNami
@CatBxtchNami 5 ай бұрын
Why did you leave?
@itsbirb7703
@itsbirb7703 5 ай бұрын
@@CatBxtchNami True Crime and shooter fangirls back in the 2010s scare me.
@CatBxtchNami
@CatBxtchNami 5 ай бұрын
@@itsbirb7703 Understandable, have a nice day.
@pHBADRO
@pHBADRO 7 ай бұрын
I always thought he had grown up in milwaukee where he was caught. great video
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 7 ай бұрын
Me too
@randomcommenter7170
@randomcommenter7170 7 ай бұрын
Turn your audio levels up to match the video clips you add
@dildonius
@dildonius 7 ай бұрын
I'd rather he turn the volume of the clips DOWN to match HIS audio volume. The clips all have blown-out audio.
@an-actual-attack-helicopter
@an-actual-attack-helicopter 7 ай бұрын
the ethics of stories regarding sensitive topics like killings and slavery come down to whether or not the writer actually has enough knowledge and respect for the subject. but that is just my opinion.
@KeyDyer
@KeyDyer 4 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people think these murders were so long ago because of how ingrained they are in culture, like they’ve always been there. I was born in 90, and would’ve thought the same abt dahmer killing In the 60s, but no, he was still alive until I was 4, and he wasn’t old then. Same thing when people realize Picasso died in 1973, not during the Renaissance 😂 big characters who seem larger than life, but they’re just people. Obviously Picasso and dahmer are polar opposites culturally lol, but I think time dilation is such a wild concept. Great video! Will be checking out the comic and the movie asap
@TheJakeDixon
@TheJakeDixon 6 ай бұрын
Dude I have some serious family lore. Ex: my grandparents went to school with the original voice actor for Kermit the Frog and I’m related to Tom Brokav through my aunt
@BotchuLeeSim
@BotchuLeeSim 6 ай бұрын
Jim Hensen?
@BjornV1994
@BjornV1994 7 ай бұрын
When it comes to true crime, I think there is nothing wrong necessarily in telling the story, reporting on it, regardless of how old or recent the facts are (one of the best true crime horrorfilms, Rohtenburg (also known as Grimm Love) was made in 2006, five years after movie inspiration Armin Meiwes ate a willing victim...) but it is important for the makers to not sensationalize the facts nor glorify the killers. Stick to the facts.
@IdkIdk-gt2ej
@IdkIdk-gt2ej 6 ай бұрын
The book shouldnt be titled 'My "friend" dahmer' because derf never really saw dahmer as a friend. Derf (and all of dahmer's "friends") could've told adults about Jeff's heavy drinking and his weird fascination with road kills. They knew that jeff was struggling, yet they didn't try to help him, all they did was force him to play the clown and use him...a true friend wouldn't do some shit like that- and a true friend definitely wouldn't write a book to profit off of this tragedy. This guy openly admits to using and cutting all ties with Jeff when he was at his lowest and he still has the audacity to call Dahmer his friend...
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 6 ай бұрын
If we’re being honest home many teenagers are going to tell on someone? Let alone tell someone else they’re hanging out with parents about the stuff they’re doing?
@IdkIdk-gt2ej
@IdkIdk-gt2ej 6 ай бұрын
@@Covaslookout That's the right thing to do...and even if they weren't courageous enough to bring it to the adults, they could've just supported Jeffrey and stick by his side instead of ditching him when Jeff was obviously going through a lot (like his parent's divorce). Derf claims to be his friend but this is not how friendship works, so why lie to the public?? He could've just titled the book 'High school with Dahmer' or something instead of calling him his friend when all he ever did was use him.
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 6 ай бұрын
@@IdkIdk-gt2ejagain we’re talking about teenagers, every teenager is selfish and self centered. Also Derf didn’t know anything about Dahmer family life till he was doing research for the book. He even states this in the beginning of the comic. Also technically he was friends with Dahmer. They did hangout and go do stuff together. Best friends no but still friends.
@CatBxtchNami
@CatBxtchNami 5 ай бұрын
@@IdkIdk-gt2ej Your children would've laughed at him and done nothing, and in fact, so would you as a teen.
@IdkIdk-gt2ej
@IdkIdk-gt2ej 5 ай бұрын
@@CatBxtchNami I get what you're saying but the truth is, teenagers aren't as innocent and inexperienced as they seem. they can tell when a person is struggling. In this case, derf and his mates chose to ignore it because they weren't Jeff's true friends. Jeff was bullied MANY times in HS, where were his "friends" when he was chased by his mates with a brick in their hand? and where were they when a senior whacked Jeff on the neck? And I get it, kids do use eachother for entertainment and I'm not against that, what I'm saying is PLEASE don't call them your FRIEND if all you've ever done for them is USE them! that's not how friendship works; not in adolescence, nor in adulthood! I know derf can't change what has happened in the past but what he can indeed do now is not mislead people with that title...but he does it anyway!
@somedorkydude6483
@somedorkydude6483 5 ай бұрын
Imagine finding out one of your classmates was a serial killer. I would find it a little unerving.
@reedboatner5385
@reedboatner5385 7 ай бұрын
I went to Providence Senior Highschool with Ty Buttrey and he now plays for the Mariners.
@stickwooden1006
@stickwooden1006 5 ай бұрын
5 minute intro. Yappatron.
@manikchris3638
@manikchris3638 3 ай бұрын
Real
@Horror_Hero
@Horror_Hero 2 ай бұрын
I really wouldnt say they were friends. Just by going by Derf's accounts himself. He just seems to use that title to attract more attention to him and his comics.
@lyokianhitchhiker
@lyokianhitchhiker 26 күн бұрын
Seems to me like Jeff was the class clown & Derf was the groupie who was socially closest to him
@chrisdiokno5600
@chrisdiokno5600 7 ай бұрын
Ah yeah, I remember reading Derf's comic My Friend Dahmer, with them even making a movie on it
@asmodeusguys4472
@asmodeusguys4472 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, i recently read this. Was pretty good.
@alexb5351
@alexb5351 4 ай бұрын
New subscriber here. Just found your channel. Going to check out your comics. Dope stuff bro👍
@l-mase-l
@l-mase-l 3 ай бұрын
my grandpa actually had a friend that he frequented night clubs with around that time, one night they met dahmer, his friend went with dahmer, the next morning woke up with a perfect hole drilled in lower side of his body. My grandpa even shook his hand, I still live in WI too, crazy stuff
@RawTimee
@RawTimee 7 ай бұрын
I LOVE his “My friend dahmer” book. I tried to find more books like his at my library and there were none. And i was super upset but i just reread it and i just loved it even more. Its so funny and interesting
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
Man he has so many great graphic novels, I know if you look them up online you’ll be able to find them to read! I recommend Trashed and Trailer Parks & Punk Rock
@Pinkmen-ho3fz
@Pinkmen-ho3fz 7 ай бұрын
The movie is also great
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats 7 ай бұрын
It's a really good read, but there's a major blind spot. Backderf keeps asking why no adult noticed how messed up Dahmer was, but I turn around and ask what did he do? Towards the end of the book, he and his friends drive him to the mall while he's drinking beer. He finishes an entire six pack in ten minutes. That's someone with problems. Instead of doing anything about it, Backderf and his friends keep Dahmer around as their pet freak and never give him any more thought. Now, someone could argue this book is his way of confessing his lack of action, but considering how he always talks about the adults, I can't be too convinced.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 7 ай бұрын
Dude….back then drinking heavily while driving wasn’t even illegal yet. “That’s someone with problems” is a social construct which he would not have any idea to identify without the retrospective of a modern society
@angelusb2066
@angelusb2066 7 ай бұрын
You literally didn’t understand the book
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats 7 ай бұрын
So it was normal to be drinking in the middle of the day? And what didn't I understand?
@KidneyDemon
@KidneyDemon 7 ай бұрын
were you actually paying attention while reading? he explained why
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats 7 ай бұрын
@@KidneyDemon I read it over a decade ago. Remind me.
@solace2stardust
@solace2stardust 4 ай бұрын
if anyone was in his position that would permeate your mind until you expressed it. plus writing your own graphic novel pretty much at your own will takes alot more work than a bullshit movie about the guy
@snaps_and_caps
@snaps_and_caps 4 ай бұрын
This is actually really interesting considering the fact myself, and a few of my friends, are Ohio residents still that live about 15-20 minutes away from his old residence. Scary shit...
@althoughtherefore7940
@althoughtherefore7940 4 ай бұрын
when I was little (around 5-6th grade), me and my sister went to the library while my mom worked. One day I found a copy of My Friend Dahmer but didn't know what it was. I just thought the art looked cool and tried to check it out. Safe to say the librarians did not let me walk out of there with it.
@oterro8225
@oterro8225 7 ай бұрын
I actually really respect the author's mindset. He's like: there are probably lessons to be learned in there somewhere, interpret it however you want, either way, this is a story I needed to tell. Something like that, I guess
@tolcinnamonroll4954
@tolcinnamonroll4954 7 ай бұрын
I read this comic book multiple times in my high school life. First one to catch my eye.
@jimtreebob2096
@jimtreebob2096 7 ай бұрын
Derf is great. His Kent State book is outstanding
@Vampire-crypt
@Vampire-crypt 7 ай бұрын
I would say if you’re going to make a story based off sensitive subjects then you have to handle the topic with care, you can’t just glorify something bad that actually happened for the sake of narrative, there has to be a reason for the decisions made for said story
@des971
@des971 6 ай бұрын
Jeffery was the last person I expected you to say was the best friend
@nahidahamed1742
@nahidahamed1742 7 ай бұрын
I got the comic and it’s crazy that this guy knew the killer personality
@dapperninji646
@dapperninji646 7 ай бұрын
Keep making contest about things you find interesting friend,.
@firtsnamefirstnama9797
@firtsnamefirstnama9797 2 ай бұрын
My mom dated a man who killed his grandma
@deceasedroaches
@deceasedroaches 2 ай бұрын
It was such a great read. I highly recommend it.
@caveguy22
@caveguy22 7 ай бұрын
And John Wayne Gacy painted a portrait of GG Allin :p They corresponded somewhat often
@BingusDingez
@BingusDingez 7 ай бұрын
Yo cova, congrats on 1k subs🎉
@Lalikaki-es7ug
@Lalikaki-es7ug 2 ай бұрын
I've never read this comic but I intend to, despite everything, it seems to me an important work to talk about.
@myfriendshawn
@myfriendshawn 7 ай бұрын
This is awesome. I based my stage name off of this comic and the movie. Thank you for sharing!
@jonsrecordcollection7172
@jonsrecordcollection7172 7 ай бұрын
When I was a freshman in college in the early 1990s, a girl came up to me and told me about how Jeffrey Dahmer went to her high school. I didn't realize until later that she was probably trying to flirt with me. That area of Ohio is pretty weird.
@PolkaVodka77
@PolkaVodka77 7 ай бұрын
derf said in the comic he don't really like dahmer he found it weird and bad sometime
@Pinkmen-ho3fz
@Pinkmen-ho3fz 7 ай бұрын
Already your most popular video good job
@fogsfunhouse
@fogsfunhouse 7 ай бұрын
its been a while so my memory is clouded but i watched the my friend dahmer movie with ross lynch when it came out and i actually remember it being pretty good, they didnt sympathize with dahmer or show a lot of violence. ill watch it again and see if its still good
@lobster821
@lobster821 7 ай бұрын
Last name is already backderf lets name him derf 😊
@coda4150
@coda4150 7 ай бұрын
It would be funny if that were so but his first name is actually John. Derf is just his nickname. Should've introduced him as John "Derf" Backderf
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 7 ай бұрын
Who tf has the surname backderf. It's not even real
@The_Top_Hat_2
@The_Top_Hat_2 7 ай бұрын
@@adonaiyah2196 strange last names exist
@BotchuLeeSim
@BotchuLeeSim 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@coda4150 he should change all of his names to Derf. He’d be the next Mario Mario
@Pinkmen-ho3fz
@Pinkmen-ho3fz 7 ай бұрын
The book was adapted into a film I hope more of his books get film adaptation
@Donnieboy7
@Donnieboy7 27 күн бұрын
I actually liked 2002’s “dahmer”. It’s very artistic in nature, and while it’s not really a an accurate retelling of dahmer’s life or killings, it really struck a cord with me, personally…
@joshuawaters4430
@joshuawaters4430 7 ай бұрын
What's the lecture Derf's giving in the first few minutes of the video? I wanna watch the rest of it.
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
I linked the video in the description
@joshuawaters4430
@joshuawaters4430 7 ай бұрын
I checked all of them and couldn't find it, which one is it?
@Covaslookout
@Covaslookout 7 ай бұрын
@@joshuawaters4430 recheck the links it’s the very last one
@thecroakedtoaster3398
@thecroakedtoaster3398 5 ай бұрын
"Dahmer" by macabre is an amazing album.
@Pinkmen-ho3fz
@Pinkmen-ho3fz 7 ай бұрын
If you take away the dammer connection derf actually has a lot of potential as a author he could make children’s books if he wanted too
@IPODsify
@IPODsify 7 ай бұрын
So the movie is a comic adaptation?
@Johnmightbehere
@Johnmightbehere 7 ай бұрын
Yeah.
@warlockofwordschannel7901
@warlockofwordschannel7901 7 ай бұрын
Basically yes, a historical true crime one.
@TomMSTie1138
@TomMSTie1138 7 ай бұрын
There are some story elements taken from actual events not in the comics, like the scene of Lionel Dahmer giving Jeff weights.
@lordfarquar9215
@lordfarquar9215 Ай бұрын
Derf sounds like Howard stern a little
@Pinkmen-ho3fz
@Pinkmen-ho3fz 7 ай бұрын
Was the scene from the movie where Steven hicks is picked up also the ending of the book
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