This Console Generation Has Been Almost Completely Useless So Far

[@theuntappedtable3487]

This is the absolute best time in history to be a backlog gamer. Physical and digital sales make it so easy to catch up on anything you missed. New releases are expensive and ship unfinished. Enjoy your library and save so much money instead.

[@registereduser]

This. This, so much.

[@affa5908]

fantastic point.. I personally have enjoyed the cycle of gaming.. and then when it comes to the backlog, thats absolute facts.. Im focusing on Elden Ring now loll but alongside that, im playing Kingdom Hearts 3, Nier Automata, Doom Eternal etc alot of older games. backlog is insane

[@UNSCAdmiral]

I completly agree, this is exactly what i've been doing for the last two years.

[@bigde131]

THIS THIS THIS!!! These whiny generation of gamers never ceases to amaze me. Just finished dark souls 3, currently playing ragnarok, and still have re7: biohazard, and resident evil village in my backlog loool. Games are better than they have ever been

[@johnathanparks8410]

Totally agree. I was in a relationship for the last 12 years just collecting games. Now that I'm single I have to go back and beat RDR2, The Witcher 3, CP2077, and learn if I have what it takes to be From Software games.

[@BranniganCarter]

Games take 5-7 years to develop now and these companies want to put out new consoles every 10. It’s just not sustainable.

[@Eaglescott]

Exactly . You could potentially play a story driven game left on a cliff hanger for part 2 and then have to pay another 500-600 on a new console to experience part 2. It’s like when things like elder scrolls 6 was announced like will it even release on this generation doubt it very much . Ps2 has gta 3/vice city and San Andreas - which people probably had more fun with these than majority of games these days .

[@SWOTHDRA]

Get A.I. in there then if these devs cant hack it

[@andremalerba5281]

​@@Eaglescottthat happened with Alan Wake LOL

[@Saltyoven]

​@@SWOTHDRAspoken like someone with utter contempt for art.

[@turtleanton6539]

Indeed😊

[@cjlaity1]

You know there's an issue when I have to buy old ps4 games that I never played to find something new to play on my ps5

[@KoolKeithProductions]

lol l wonder how all those ppl feel playing mostly ps4 games on their ps5 even 3 years later? 😂

[@reallyrasta]

Horrible. That's how we feel. I should have just stuck with my PS4. I use my PS5 mostly for Netflix.

[@KoolKeithProductions]

@@reallyrasta sorry to hear that, bro. Honestly if it weren't for the pandemic I'd have a PS5 right now. I actually had a PS3 at the start of 2020 and was saving up for the 5 release later in the year, but once the world starting shutting down, l decided to just get a PS4. Best choices l ever made lol

[@Andres.Floress]

@@KoolKeithProductionsif you’re into jrpg’s try playing tales of Berseria

[@KoolKeithProductions]

@Andres.Floress Not really into RPGs at all. I like sports games, racers and 3rd person shooters mostly

[@johnhess9443]

I wish we had ps2 era creativity and enthusiasm with modern hardware

[@popnstoff]

This is why I modded my ps2 put a quieter fan in it replaced thermal pads and now put a ssd in it so I have the whole ps2 library in it now I can catch up on all the games I missed as a kid.

[@LtJackStone]

We can only hope that more indie developers are inspired by that time period.

[@ArabianFreedom]

That will never happen again That era of gaming industry is still at the peak. Not to mention, the leap from the old gen to PS2 gen was mega huge.

[@yokuzo11]

The good ole days; That's back when even Rockstar actually made games such as Oni, Midnight Club, Manhunt, Bully, The Warriors, and Red Dead Revolver

[@thefebo8987]

You know that modern hardware/graphics are the root of the cause here?

[@acerimmer8338]

I feel bad for young gamers today. Being a child/teen in the 80s/90s, it was non-stop and amazing. Every 4 years was a new system, new games and new advances. And each console generation was a MASSIVE leap. There were always 'can't miss' launch titles only available on the new hardware. Always new and novel types of gameplay. If you were one of the lucky ones to get your hands on the newest, you were the envy of every kid in the neighborhood or class. Nowadays kids play the same game for years, like my nieces and Roblox or nephew and Spiderman. Most games are the same: 3rd-person action w/ RPG elements. Gaming is really in a rut the past 10 years.

[@A_Final_Hit]

Bingo. Going from the NES to the SNES was mind-blowing, as was going from the SNES to the N64, then the GameCube, and then....you get my point. 😃

[@rulasmania]

80s and 90s were cool but sorry 2000s kids we had the best era, we had those games you talk about laying around thanks to our parents and we also lived Halo in its hay day, burnout 3, peak Call of duty, 3d platformers, GameCube, PS2, the peak of gaming consoles 🤘🏻

[@perihelion7445]

Exactly, I went through a Hanimex Pong system, CBS Colecovision, Atari 2600, C64, Amiga 500, Amiga 1200 and then onto the PC. The leap from the C64 to the Amiga was mindblowing. I got a Switch 2 years ago for my Daughter and have recently gone back to the Amiga 1200 but yes, the 80's and 90's by far the greatest decades in home gaming.

[@palmtreeguy4706]

Worst generation of games ever. Live service bag chasing is killing gaming.

[@shanaeverowe9626]

This 💯. I don't buy many games normally, but I haven't even felt the urge to buy a game in years. After seeing everything turn into a "live service" and then get abandoned the moment they aren't making money on it I stopped supporting many publishers. On top of that, games that get dragged out for no reason, like FF7 Remake, hurt people too. I waited years for that game.....only for it to not even finish the story of the first disc of a than 25+ year old game. And they want me to pay 60 plus own the new system to play roughly to the end of the old disc 1? Nah. I will just play the original

[@kendrickaugillardjr9081]

I believe the shortage of games is the reason for this live service crap, companies spent too much to make these consoles and since everything is going to crap their looking for a way to make that money back. Had they delayed the launch and waited until they had the man power to create the games, the consoles themselves would've had a good foundation to start on.

[@johnguymer8063]

You mean worst generation of gamers. You complain about everything. I don't have time to play the ridiculous about of awesome huge games out this year alone

[@dividedstatesofamerica2520]

@@johnguymer8063 Keep consuming, npc.

[@johnguymer8063]

@@dividedstatesofamerica2520 cry more

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

The biggest problem with the gaming industry is that graphics require far too much money and time to be created, resulting in very few games being released. What was Nintendo saying since the Wii era. graphics will be the Downfall for gaming and gameplay is much more important. And now the Switch has more than 90 first party games, that speaks for itself

[@supersaiyaman11589]

graphics are important nothing stays the same forever. game play is important but you cannot just ignore graphics either. that being said game play is more important.also their is a reason remakes are popular its because remakes are a way to get a new experience like with dragon quest 3 2d remake that square is coming out with.

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

@@supersaiyaman11589 Most games nowadays have great graphics but not a great art style. Nintendo's franchises either have a cartoony art style or an anime art style. So even with the weak power of the Switch, their games still look great while they are super cheap and take very little time to be made. You can see this in recent games such as M&L brothership and Zelda echoes of wisdom. And that is why games such as Persona 5 have a perfect port on Switch.

[@SnakeEngine]

Unreal Engine 5 is going to change that. You get cutting-edge graphics and assets for free nowadays.

[@TheLWebb100]

Nintendo is just cheap and lazy when it comes to graphical power. They have no problem charging full price for their games but will stay behind the eight ball hardware wise.

[@COUNTVLAIDMIR]

​@Jenkmode89 Good for you if you can keep buying the same rehashes with low effort production value games from Nintendo. But their games have never appealed to me that much.

[@thechicagobox]

In my 40+ years of gaming, I’ve never seen things so bad as they are now. Greed over Art.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Totally, Been gaming since the atari 2600/ commodore 16+4 This generation has been pathetic so far.

[@TheJasonJackson84]

I just turned 40 got my Nintendo at 5. I've noticed the slow burn of regressing quality over the last 10 years. There's just too much money being spent to give the gaming industry a wake up call

[@corwinroberts4756]

Jim Ryan raised the price of games and gone,now this where we at (greed)

[@theramenspot]

Really? We're at the point where stores refuse to sell games and mass returns lead to burying stock out in the desert? That bad? Huh.

[@BranniganCarter]

Yep been gaming 35 years and this is ridiculous. Theres maybe 1 game per year that holds my attention now, because good games are much less frequent

[@RTYB]

Amazing no one mentions nintendo thriving on 7 year-old hardware that was already old when it released.

[@bravefastrabbit770]

Aside from Mario, what worthwhile games are there to play on switch? They cater to parents who are looking for a cheaper option and child friendly titles. Awesome, let them fill that bracket of the market. But aside from Nintendont owned IPs there isn't much, especially not 'cool titles' aside from Astral Chain perhaps.

[@1mariomaniac]

@@bravefastrabbit770 Fire Emblem, Collection of Mana, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Bayonetta 3 and Origins, Xenoblade 1, 2, and 3, and a LOT more developed in house by Nintendo. Also I'm not exactly sure if I'd consider Metroid Dread and the upcoming Metroid Prime 4 "child friendly" as Metroid tends to go for a spookier atmosphere. Nor are they cheap, unfortunately. I haven't personally bought from Nintendo in a year or two since I'm very much against their stance on game preservation, but the games I've played have all been superb.

[@jamesgravil9162]

@@1mariomaniac You left out Zelda: Breath of the Wild..

[@Goolix_Aero]

@@bravefastrabbit770 You can't really say "aside from Nintendo IPs" when they have like the most stacked roster of IPs in the industry. They've been firing on all cylinders this gen.

[@MobileTech296]

​@bravefastrabbit770 not to mention Monster Hunter, Saints Row 3, Witcher 3, Grand Theft Auto Trilogy, Red Dead Redemption...the list goes on and on.

[@ozzy6994]

PS3/Wii/360 was truly the last great era of gaming for Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. They were so competitive for trying to be the best delivering great 1st party games

[@Matt-jc2ml]

PS4/one was great too. And I really enjoyed wii u. The ps5 is crap though, agreed

[@adrnacad3434]

@@Matt-jc2mlNah the PS4/Xone era was really the downfall of console gaming.

[@Matt-jc2ml]

@@adrnacad3434 how? A lot of great games came out then. And at least on PSN they started doing sales super frequently. I remember I got doom for like 5 dollars and I loved that game. I

[@cheerioz1848]

To be honest Nintendo has only veen getting better in my opinion.

[@Itshadow306]

The last great gaming generation was the 6th generation.

[@DoshindeReus]

We need less focus on nonsense. I don't need to see wrinkles, sweat or reflections. I just want 1080p at 60fps with great original gameplay.

[@rod253]

Then stick with ps3 🎉

[@mrkrabz9564]

⁠@@rod253ps3 cannot run good games on 1080p 60fps I don’t think it can even run fortnite on 1080p 60fps

[@Steeboohken]

1440 at 60.

[@BattleGamingMayhem]

1440p / 60fps sweet spot

[@jonnyorigan]

I will never understand how it’s 2024 and we are still begging for 60fps as a standard and not a game seller

[@sheparddouglas2828]

don't forget that nobody could get a console for multiple years unless it was from scalpers for around $1 ,000. Both Amazon and Wall-Mart had no problem helping squeeze us for every cent they could.

[@MightyCats2011]

I agree, I refused to pay extra $ to scalpers for 2 years. It was only in start of 2023 that there was supply in store so i can buy PS5 for MSRP.

[@galacticwarlock2271]

Sonyvmade it scalper friendly.

[@ianharris3502]

This actually isn't true. The production rate of the ps5 was always higher than that of the ps4

[@IeremiasMoore-El]

i got 1 series x and 3 series S on release for retail.....ps5 was another story.

[@jordanshannon8830]

I got a ps5 1 month after release but it was insanely hard and I had to be on my phone 24/7 which most people could not do

[@chillypacman]

It's because all the big game devs are busy trying to make live service games and utterly failing.

[@jonplaud]

I hate live services >_

[@thatoneguy378]

And shoving dei into every aspect of games.

[@yokuzo11]

It's probably part of some propaganda to make some game players feel that they are living an alternative life; Video games are cool to escape from life, but should never be used to replace real life

[@Elitesolider1023]

As if woke bullshit wasn't bad enough.

[@dugnice]

This is funny to me, because I was saying way back in 2020 that the next gen consoles were rushed to market.

[@cypher5009]

I know right? They both felt like a nothing launch and should have been delayed to 2022.

[@ali-haider5788]

Even ps4 and xbox one were rushed They came with few games and many troubles and correct me if im wrong but they started to receive good games only in late 2016 the same year companies stoped launching games on the ps3 and xbox 360 Idk why people atacking this gen so early Ps4 started geting good games like uncharted 4 in 2016 Bloodborn in 2016 Gow in 2018 Red dead 2 in 2018 The last of us 2 in 2019 Elden ring in 2019 Spider man 2018 Etc All of them were after 4 years of the launch of ps4

[@cypher5009]

@@ali-haider5788 Sure 2013 didn't have too many incredible next generation games but the ones we had were good. Both 2014 and especially 2015 had a lot of heavy hitters like Dying Light, Assassin's Creed Unity, Sunset Overdrive just to name a few so id say just listing them from 2016 is not fair just because you only remember from 2016 onward.

[@ali-haider5788]

@cypher5009 i played most games that came in 2014 and 2015 but they were not much different than xbox 360 and ps3 The real game changers came after 2016 If you notice than in every gen the last games to come out are always some of the best in the whole gen

[@Bustermachine]

​@@ali-haider5788Every console starts off with a small library. Though game production cost have made it worse each generation since being a launch title is a gamble.

[@YaaSalty...0_o]

Completely useless for the player. These gaming companies now charge way more and produce way less with way less creativity and passion

[@dmanatan]

Less creativity and passion? I don’t necessarily disagree. However, games are cheaper now that probably ever. Go see how much Nintendo and super Nintendo games were in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Nintendo games can be beaten in under and hour. SNES games, several hours.

[@Lg8gl]

The SSD speeds is the main reason I upgraded asap. Those load times where getting ludicrous towards the end of 8th gen

[@theoneonly2406]

Exactly. The PS5 is probably my favorite console ever, besides the library of the PS2. Since the PS5 plays every PS4 game but better and faster, I don't regret buying it for one second. Besides, the PS5 controller is absolutely amazing. Feels great to play.

[@AHeroInHell]

But if games are on a cartridge, load times are no longer an issue. Cartridges/Memory cards are cheap as chips nowadays.

[@DeeChongo]

Same. That loud ass fan on PS4 too.

[@davidjcarroway]

​@@AHeroInHell on a SSD there is 1 second of wait time cartridge life span in shorter but is better then a download ppl with Sega cartridge deal with many factors worst then a loading time but PlayStation uses a digital code that needs to be updated from time to time. Both are good and bad in they own way.

[@Marcelo_M.M.]

Consolers discovering the no loading screens we have been enjoying a decade ago. I wonder when they discover mods.

[@4PieceOriginal]

Scalpers had a hand in this. Way less people were able to purchase due to scalpers. And by the time there were enough consoles to buy through normal means, people (like me) said F it. I don't need a console.

[@manuelsoto9939]

So true. I hadn't seen a PS5 in the wild till like 2023. By that time, I had bought a Switch.

[@Blackreaper95]

If you ended up saying F it it was most likely because nothing was interesting to you on those consoles by the time they became widely available.

[@4PieceOriginal]

@Blackreaper95 I said F it because after patiently waiting for sony to put out more systems just to be swept up by more online store checkout bots, I got tired of waiting and I took that money and put it towards building a PC instead.

[@tedjohnson7485]

There weren't that many scalpers though. When the new consoles came out there were major chip shortages around the world. That was a big problem for a lot of people.

[@Bill-e-Goat]

@@tedjohnson7485it was 2 plus years before you could buy one…..and you hr no real good games what was the point of

[@TIDbitRETRO]

I blame the publishers/developers. These companies need to scale back budgets and sales expectations on their AAA games, and get back to making GAMES, not soulless microtransaction-riddled live service programs designed to bleed customers dry.

[@javelinmaster2]

Ah current gen. The "We are getting our asses kicked by older hardware" gen.

[@isuck6049]

Focused too much on graphics that's why, took almost all the fun out of it.

[@peanhead2543]

@@isuck6049 but the gamer always demanding more graphic, more fps etc. alot ps360 games that considered to be the golden age of gaming have lot amzing game with performance issues. and 1.5 years after the release PC hardware capabilities also skyrocketed

[@Clery75019]

@@peanhead2543 Do they really? Nintendo Switch sold 143 million units and still counting. No less than 21 Switch games sold more than 10 million units, that's an all-time record!

[@peanhead2543]

@@Clery75019 i mean ps/xbox users, they're expecting too much for a console

[@mark902]

This has been the generation ruined by catering to "modern audiences".

[@VaultOfTheFuture]

lol I hear that in Drinker’s voice

[@azel8rrp169]

I got the PS5 just to end up playing PS4 games with higher frame rates and shorter load times. At least I'm catching up to my backlog.

[@ZWARBHATTAA]

RDR2 left the chat

[@capnphuktard5445]

​@@ZWARBHATTAADays Gone entered 😂

[@JoeBlunt]

Bloodborne looks great

[@toby.2a]

@@JoeBlunt30fps tho…

[@bimmer8602]

My little brother got a ps5 like 3 years ago. All he plays is ps4 games on it lol. I played demons souls remake on it, probably the only ps5 game his ps5 has seen.

[@racingsinmyblood9273]

Games peaked in the 2000's, slowly descended in the 2010's, and died in the 2020's.

[@estebanmeza9645]

Bs, ps2 was good but it was full of underwhelming games, ps3 and 360 were the peak

[@racingsinmyblood9273]

@@estebanmeza9645 You do realize that the 360 came out in 2005 and the PS3 came out in 2006 right. I never even specified the PS2 or its games at all in my comment. Although I do respect it and think it had some bangers. Honestly, I think the golden era of video games was 2005-2013. Once the PS4 and Xbox one came it started going downhill and when the PS5 and Xbox series x/s came out it really started to die.

[@estebanmeza9645]

@@racingsinmyblood9273 yeah but they were going great even until 2014

[@BlossomField91]

@@estebanmeza9645 Are you old enough to have played the PS2 during its prime (2001-2005)? It was certainly not full of underwhelming games, even if many of those games have admittedly aged like milk, but games like Grand Theft Auto III (for example) were absolutely mindblowing when they came out. PS2 was the peak of many franchises (e.g. Metal Gear Solid) that went to shit during the 360/PS3 era. Of course when next gen consoles came out, the PS2 just ended up with a lot of shovelware, shitty ports and the usual annual sports games. If you're younger, I can understand why you wouldn't appreciate it.

[@estebanmeza9645]

@@BlossomField91 yes, I'm 30. Played it a lot, still think the ps3-360 era has been the best one so far

[@brichan1851]

This has been a great generation… for Nintendo, with the weakest console on the market.

[@jorgea8518]

But the Switch had a three year start over the PS5 and Xbox series, its not really fair to compare them. Plus, when the Switch 2 comes out, its back from the start and we have yet to see if its going to be a success or not.

[@davidaitken8503]

​@@jorgea8518It doesn't matter if Switch has a headstart. The game lineup has been fantastic every single year and the rest of the industry is at least a decade behind Nintendo. Nothing on PS5 or X Box Series comes even close to Zelda BotW which was technically a cross-gen game (Wii U and Switch). Zelda TotK takes the level of ambition so far beyond even that. Nintendo develops games on a tablet an order of magnitude more ambitious than any of the games being made for PS5 and X Box Series.

[@jorgea8518]

@@davidaitken8503 God of War Ragnarok with a 94 on metacritic comes pretty darn close.

[@davidaitken8503]

@@jorgea8518 A metacritic score is meaningless. No serious gamer takes review scores from game journalists seriously and the user scores are open to all kinds of stupidity There is nothing remotely ambitious about God of War Ragnarok. It is a cutscenes and walking simulator heavy game where you walk into an arena, fight enemies with the same dumbed down, barely there collision detection as an Assassins Creed game, then move on through simplistic, barely interactive environments, rinse and repeat. The fact you think a cinematic walking simulator like that, of all things, is even remotely comparable to a game of Zelda's caliber is absurd.

[@jorgea8518]

@@davidaitken8503 That's the kind of talk I expect from someone who hasn't played the game. And a walking simulator, really? Have you played Hellblade 2?

[@siloPIRATE]

I don’t even play my PS5 much/at all these days. There’s nothing to play. I have stuff I want to buy, but part of me says it’s expensive, takes a lot time to play and will it really be that good?

[@kevinhibbard320]

Ours gets used a bunch... For the wife and kids to watch Netflix and Disney+ haha

[@supersaiyaman11589]

part of the reason i went pc is because it will last fora few generations.i may not be able to play every game at max settings but i will still be able to game at lest another console generation with my computer.

[@Anderson_Se7en]

There are very few interesting games. And they truly hate making 3rd person games. I remember the days of 8 different GTA clones, 3 of which were actually worth playing.

[@jonplaud]

This is why I stay mostly PC gaming. Build your system, play games, and do work. 2 for 1.

[@ripewatermelonlol]

@@jonplaud agreed got into pc gaming almost 2 yrs ago and it saved me so much money (steam sales, no paying for online, steam generous refunds, games i pirate to see if they are worth purchasing or not, emulation of older console games i never got to experience, games i never knew id like so much like valve games, halo (i came from playstation) and all. Man i loved this purchase. being able to play uncharted 4, halo mcc, and valorant all on the same system seems unreal. All i gotta do now is upgrade my cpu and graphics card every like 5 yrs. Only time ill get a ps5 is when gta 6 comes out, and itll act just like my ps4 does, which is streaming, playing sports games, orchoice horror games like until dawn when ppl are over, or the occasional og uncharted trilogy and god of war.

[@thatsentertainment5602]

If things dont improve game wise for the current generation of consoles, there wont be much incentive to buy the next gen consoles.

[@JimboShiesty]

Literally and idk why the hell people want ps5 pro when theirs literally no games being made like make it make sense

[@thatsentertainment5602]

@@JimboShiesty So true its pointless! The current gen consoles are heavily reliant on remakes and remasters of previous games becuase the developers are running out of ideas or they just release new games that are very similar to older games. One of the few new games to look forward too if its gets released next year for the current gen consoles is GTA6.

[@JimboShiesty]

@@thatsentertainment5602 Yeah gta 6 literally our only hope in gaming

[@thatsentertainment5602]

@@JimboShiesty Yes hopefully it will be worth the wait and give us a reason or incentive to own/keep our current gen consoles.

[@JimboShiesty]

@@thatsentertainment5602 if not ima just buy a ps2 and stick back to that

[@lazycouchman]

Everything gets more expensive as it gets worse it feels like.

[@gamer2101]

That's the way I feel. The games look good but they are so shallow. I thought battle systems would have gotten more complex and amazing but they are being dumbed down. Also everything feels and looks the same. It's all the same type of game just a different coat of paint.

[@TheCuratorWillBQuytOperational]

🥔

[@sahilsharma88]

This is true outside of gaming - cars, houses, food, travel ..everything pleasurable now feels like a compromise. Capitalism is truly at its peak. Nothing seems to be build to last and planned obsolescence is now a feature baked into things.

[@DeenanTheKemon1]

That's the way it IS, not the way it 'feels'. Unsustainable Greed has taken over, and this goes far beyond video games. We are being ruled by thieves. And it is ALL around us.

[@bixbysnyder-00]

That's capitalism: offer worse products and services for more money.

[@joemisek]

My family still hasn't transition from a PS4 to PS5... the cost and early lack of availability, the functionality of PS4 (using it for streaming services like Netflix or Disney+), and the lack of interesting games on the 5... still no need. I can see a scenario in which we miss this generation altogether and spring for a PS6 in a few years, especially is the 4 still works for streaming really well.

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

Honestly I’m kind of there myself. The only thing making me consider the 5 is wondering if the 6 won’t be available for 2 years after launch and maybe we end up in this same situation: every PS 6 game is also available for the 5 too. 😂😂

[@alvallac2171]

*hasn't transitioned *especially if

[@RBobul]

Same

[@Joker-yw9hl]

Exactly the same over here. I had been holding out for a mid-generation PS5 but there is literally no reason to buy one - not one with any legitimacy. PC, PS4 and Switch for now!

[@marioc2923]

What went wrong was that when the 360 and ps3 came out, companies took advantage of the hardware and came out with great games….. this generation the hardware is there but dropped the ball on quality games and focused on maximum profits. Micro transactions, copy and paste games. They stopped caring about how to captivate gamers

[@Cerylion]

To be frank, a new console is supposed to play games that can't be played on last gen due to technical limitations. And in past, graphical fidelity of games grew so fat that every srveral years you needed a new console to keep playing newest games. But we are reaching a ceiling of graphical quality. Once, two games released 3 years apart looked vastly different, but today a 10 years old game doesn't look much worse than tbe newest game. Which is what makes 9th gen of consoles so underwhelming: they were released too early, before they were needed.

[@notafanboy355]

Not really its not that they are too early but tech reached a point of scaling. Previous consoles were completely different architecture Now its just pc like and they scale down

[@hellerhs]

Worst gen ever! Both consoles selling exclusively online to scalpers so consumers couldnt just walk into a store and buying one and Xbox buying tons of game studious and still managing to not have a decent library of exclusives.

[@AlexGreat321]

I got my PS5 last year and honestly I've gotten more out of my PS5 as a 4K blu ray player. I've also been playing older games for the most part just because they're more entertaining to me

[@archangel2015]

That why I bought a ps5 was for the 4k blu ray player capabilities.

[@chrissyboy7047]

I was 50/50 on whether to get the Series X but the 4k blu ray player swayed me to. Lol

[@raven7988-v5n]

​@@chrissyboy7047 series x has no games

[@chrissyboy7047]

@@raven7988-v5n pony detected

[@ripewatermelonlol]

@@raven7988-v5n bro they both got no games be frl. having a ps4 and a pc, theres legit 3 games that are interesting to me from ps5, god of war ragnorok, stellar blade and the upcoming gta 6. Wtf are ppl missing out on ps5.

[@shariqhasan6220]

The most probable reason is that the PC/ Console technology is advancing faster than the human game developers can make new games. Developing games for new gen hardware is more difficult and takes a lot of time.

[@yourdataispublic]

Must be why some titles are running on 60fps despite the RTX4060 GPU 🤣

[@VEN0M415]

The main problem is business types that took over and focus on profit over quality, and with their greed they raise prices and rush things to keep that ever increasing income flowing and so not enough time is given to making things properly (or to the right things in general). Consoles were meant to be the cheaper alternative to computer games but now they match the price when you add up all the costs at the end of a consoles generation. Games once made by gamers for gamers are now made by uninterested/not invested workers for investors interests.

[@Motion_God]

@@yourdataispublicthe 4060 is more powerful than the current gen consoles tho

[@NoFucksToGiveAnymore]

But developers were asking for these new console to come out here it is 🤷

[@fazeprogeralt3143]

I don't see why just because we have better hardware they always have to push the limits cinematic wise but keep it safe and non experimental gameplay wise. Very non forward thinking. Feels like I'm watching a movie then playing a video game. And the industry and fan boys will use that as a scapegoat to charge more money for the same stale ass games.

[@Nightweaver1]

I gave up on console gaming with the PlayStation 3 and I haven't been back since. I'm just a PC gamer now. I don't really miss much, except for games on the Switch.

[@emeraldwind4897]

True, I sold my ps3 and xbox 360 to put towards my first gaming pc. Back in 2013. Never was interested in the ps4 because it was basically just a remake station. All of the games that the ps5 games eventually got a pc port so I'm good.

[@bigdaddychacha]

Console generations I’ve owned: SNES N64 Sega Dreamcast XBox Xbox 360 Xbone But now I’ve gone gaming PC and gone off of the consoles entirely. I’m done with the console crap, with the “quarterly fee to play the games you already own online with actual other players” crap. Don’t with trying to get an international debit card to work in an American Xbox Live account in the East Asian region. Done with no backwards compatibility, and having to rebuy GTAV, like, 3 times on 3 different generations of hardware. Done with trying to be loyal to Xbox while they allowed themselves to be utterly pwned in the console exclusives war with Sony. Done with paying, like, $60-$70 dollars for every new game instead of getting things incredibly cheap on a Steam Sale. Done with CoD season passes, gaming as a service, and this Games Pass/Xbox Live model where as long as you keep paying them for the rest of your life, you probably won’t lose “your” games. It was all such a bunch of crap.

[@greatBLT]

You've been gaming since the 90s and never had a Playstation? What a farce

[@stevens1041]

You’re me. Same experience.

[@bigdaddychacha]

@@greatBLT Tbf I did pick up an old, used PS3 at one point around the launch of the PS4 or PS5 solely to check out some of the PlayStation exclusives that couldn’t be had on Xbox, namely “The Last of Us (1)” and the first 3 “Uncharted” games, all of which I’d heard incredible things about. “The Last of Us” absolutely lived up to the hype and was an incredible experience. The “Uncharted” games generally didn’t. The gameplay was bog-standard 3rd person platforming shooter with too many quick-time events and the writing and characters were incredibly lame, I thought, which surprised me because I’d been lead to believe they were much better than average in those departments. The first game was really bad and dated by the time I played it. The second and third had better controls and felt more modern, but by the time I was getting into the third, which genuinely had good graphics and spectacle, I gave up on them because of the characters/writing. If I had discovered the Yakuza series at that point, that might have genuinely sold me on the PlayStation ecosystem a bit more (got into “Like a Dragon” finally on the Xbone, and have gone on to get all of the previous games on Steam since), but I didn’t at the time. Also, the Xbox controller has been vastly superior to PlayStation ever since they released the “S-Type” to replace “The Duke.” I could NOT get into the PlayStation controller feel.

[@acerimmer8338]

Same. PS3 was the last console I bought. Between Steam, GOG and emulation (god I love emulation), I can play pretty much every game from every era. Throw in mods and no worries about backwards compatibility and it's a no brainer. PC Master Race!

[@tylerk3616]

Ah yes, the xbone, my dog’s favourite

[@snsdkbopper7819]

I agree wholeheartedly, The Xbox 360 console generation definitely had the most creative & groundbreaking games.

[@malcadorthesigillite2541]

Is the 360 your first console?

[@snsdkbopper7819]

@@malcadorthesigillite2541 Not hardly, I even had a Pong console in the 70s, I’ve had nearly every console made, But I was referring to consoles that were made 2000 and after, When saying the 360 era was the best, I was really meaning that more good games were made generally from 2001 through 2015. Of course they’ve made good games after 2015, just not near as many.

[@malcadorthesigillite2541]

@@snsdkbopper7819 like you I started playing video games on a Atari 2600. Personally I always thought the PS2 era ( GameCube, og Xbox) was the greatest era of gaming. In terms of creativity and diversity.

[@thepurrfectionist365]

both OG Xbox and 360 have massive amounts of heavy hitters.

[@kingjoshua1788]

Covid hurt this console generation as well as games taking four or five years to make that's probably the biggest issue plaguing this console generation

[@secondchance6603]

Employing people who are only there to push their political/sexual ideologies into games is the biggest issue plaguing gaming that I see.

[@dctrbrass]

It should be interesting to see how next gen looks, compared to this one.

[@devonportfilmclubdvfc3469]

People seem to have completely forgotten how covid shut everything down and profoundly affected media output that take 3-4 years to develop like film and video games.

[@davidaitken8503]

​@@secondchance6603You're an idiot. Nobody cares about that if the game is good. It is often used as a distraction from how crappy the game is though.

[@victorvargas9330]

​@@dctrbrass More black, brown, pink, blue, and alot less white

[@Moriningland]

I remember when I almost crapped my pants with excitement when I was able to get a PS5 on Amazon at Xmas 2020. Haven’t touched the thing in years

[@TigerTT]

Even the PS2 has way more exclusives than the PS5 lmao.

[@SagaciousFrank]

If people were smart, they'd boycott the PS5 Pro, but they won't.

[@LoneAries77]

The is the remake, backwards compatibility generation with more fps and HDR. Covid destroyed this Generation. I hope they extend the life cycle of PS5 series x because this gen has barely started. The switch was the true star of this generation. Nintendo never lost focus and kept releasing big hits despite covid.

[@dctrbrass]

It feels like the consoles just launched this year. :)

[@LoneAries77]

@@dctrbrass totally.

[@steveclark5206]

PS1 was a big upgrade for consoles and as a bonus it was a good CD player when standalone CD players were expensive. PS2 was a game changer because of online gaming and SOCOM 2, plus it was a DVD player when standalone DVD players were expensive. PS3 integrated easier online gaming, no need for PS2-style memory cards, the ability to connect/stream from the internet, and had a Blu-ray player when standalone Blu-ray players were still expensive. PS5 has…uhm, 4K capability, and, ahhhhh…….

[@DukeJon1969]

It loads your PS4 games faster. That's it as far as I'm concerned

[@XenoMassxx]

I predict Switch 2 to have more exclusives in its first year than both PS5 and XBOX SERIES X have currently.

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

I mean unless all their studio's burn to the ground that bar will be cleared easily. There's a possibility that we'll have a 3d Mario, Metroid 4, and Pokemon Legends ZA as launch titles depending on when the switch 2 releases, and that's just the stuff we know about.

[@ccaprice8595]

This is why nintendo is the goat, and that's coming from a Sony guy. I've always like nintendo but I've always been more of a PlayStation player but these past couple years. I've really come to appreciate Nintendo.

[@ali-haider5788]

Tbh Nintendo rarely come up with new games its stuck with its exclusives since ages Mario, zeldla, super smash etc and they are easy to develop games for a simple device Unlike ps5 and series x which need very long time and alot of money to make a new game But cant deny Nintendo games still damn fun

[@isuck6049]

​​​​@@ali-haider5788 they milked tf out of new super mario bros to the point where when wonder came out, it felt like a whole new concept lmao, I think that that's their strategy though, stick to what does good/best and then use that to the point where if they announce a new game for that franchise, it'd had been at least half a decade or more, to get more people to get the console when it happens, and then let them explore the other great games for that console also. Except for pokemon which seems to be the only exception and now the games suck.

[@NickoMode17]

I feel like people really dont appreciate how much better a lot of these cross generation releases play on the ps5. Not only is the controller a huge upgrade, but all these games run so much better. I dont see anything wrong with giving people the option to have a better experience, but for some people its not worth it so they can stick with the ps4 / xbox one.

[@-Stinky_Pinky]

I think it’s what your standards are and if you think it justifies the cost. Because while i agree the boost in performance makes a big difference, it’s fair to say we should have higher standards to motivate companies to do more. When paying $500 to upgrade to a new system, the boost in performance for some people should be a given and expected. That’s the case for most previous gen upgrades where we got a boost in performance and visuals IN ADDITION to many new quality games. This time around there’s the boost in performance but the visuals are improved but honestly it’s less of a leap than previous upgrades, which does make sense because as technology gets more advanced it becomes more difficult to see the difference graphically. I guess my point is, if someone told me to buy a brand new system for $500 just to play old games that will perform much better, I’d say that is awesome but not fully worth $500. If it was around $300, then maybe. Now I know it’s not that black and white so I’m not implying the PS5 should be $300 because there has been some good titles that’s been released, but this is just my overall opinion.

[@rod253]

60fps is nothing new. Ps3 had 60fps games. There's no boost

[@What_In_This_World]

Nintendo Switch >> PS5 + XBSX Combined.

[@NickoMode17]

@What_In_This_World I respect the switch and love it for certain games. But if I own a game on switch I will often buy it again on ps5 these days just because it feels that much better to me. Just personal preference though.

[@NickoMode17]

@rod253 completely different level of games though. Achieving 60fps on a lot of these games is entirely different than ps3 titles. Everything changes with time.

[@mildhoof]

Switch is only just slowing down now before the successor's launched next year. Steam goes from strength to strength. Xbox and Playstation are fading.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

I'm not even excited about GTA VI either. From the various leaks we can see it is very much shaping up to be an enhanced GTA V rebuilt on the RDR2 platform and with tightened up graphics. That's it. I'm not expecting much truly 'new' and a lot of people will likely be quite disappointed, despite Rockstar sticking to proven formulae and knowing what works. A lot of today's AAA games are just graphical tech demos from the same franchises, released on a regular cadence and with very little true innovation. We're told that having an enormous map filled with pointless side quests is "immersive" - if I want to wash my car, or walk my dog, or go fishing, or run someone else's errands, I can do that in real life. Gaming is supposed to be fun, an escape, something different.

[@lordiblees]

PS4 was the last good generation. It's all downhill from here with this ultra-realistic graphical fidelity porn obsession over soul and substance

[@shreder75]

How much did you think upgrading to 16 gb of ddr5, a zen 2 cpu, and a ssd was going to cost? I think $500 for these systems was perfectly reasonable at launch. Should they be cheaper now? Yes, but they just go to their standard excuse of "teh pandemicz!" regarding that. But that's across the entire corporate spectrum.

[@antfrancis9941]

I'll get the ps5 when GTA6 comes out. I'm fine with my ps4 & i'm buying & playing the many classics that i missed (at the time) for mad cheap.

[@MrRoundthetwist]

Same, that or the Series X Or I’ll just wait for the PS5 Pro

[@justinbezaire8115]

Closing studios, games take longer to make, so less people are making games. Which means if the games that are made are bad, that's it for that company in this generation, not enough time to make a new game.. move on to next box send ps6

[@Thelegendhimself91]

​@@MrRoundthetwistps5 pro isn't real 😂😂😂😂just fake rumours like the switch pro was

[@affa5908]

@@justinbezaire8115 there are tons of great games.. TONS. yall just greedy and addicted to tech and the concept of evolution...

[@bradleyspinks7922]

I would definitely consider getting one just before the game comes out though as you might struggle to get one when the game releases

[@TheSixteen60]

The only console that matters anymore is the Nintendo Switch. And with a new next gen Nintendo Switch potentially on the horizon next year, it’s clear Nintendo is well within their own league at this point.

[@jeffthompson6162]

The technological leap in this generation is disappointing for sure. The speed and load times are nice but the slightly extra fidelity is not worth inconsistent frame rates.

[@PastoKage]

This was the one and only consoles generation I totally skipped, and my first console was (mind you) a Sega Master System. I am fine with my PC & "previous gen" consoles, and never felt a reason to get a PS5 or an X. Never happened to me before, in 30 years of gaming.

[@kpw9006]

You getting old bro, i don't know I've got ps5 and xbox series x last year and I'm pretty enjoying it so far especially with adaptive triger and hapticfeedback that's a whole new experience.

[@army103]

That's pretty much my story, too - started with an Atari, stopped with a PS4. There's only a scant handful of console exclusives that never make it to PC, and with so many other great games out there, I don't really miss them. I'm still glad that I own all the consoles I already have, but now that PC gaming has gotten so accessible, investing in another one doesn't seem anywhere near as necessary as it used to.

[@TinchoRinaldi2023mar]

😂😂😂😂

[@stevelorenz544]

Exactly like me. I also started with the Sega Master System and never missed a console including all previous Playstations. And just like you I jabe not yet felt an extreme need to get a PS 5. So far I am still waiting for some awesome games that will want me to soend my hard earned cash. My plan was to wait for the Pro version. But let’s see about the games first. If nothing major happens maybe I’ ll end up skipping this current generation after all. I do think thought we are about 2 years behind schedule in terms of games development because of Covid. Let’s see what the future brings. Maybe now there are starting to kick in.

[@Totomuncher]

This is going to be me after this generation! I already built my Rig so im set.

[@PsychoPlissken]

The first console generation where everybody lost the war. The developers. The manufacters; and the customers.

[@Clery75019]

Nintendo disagrees.

[@badastronaut2112]

Wasn't the XBox One the console that ran with the PS4? Not the 360...

[@VigneshVicky-qs8yi]

I am not sure if we can take into consideration the first 1-2 years of this generation as it was the time of COVID and lockdown... So technically we are just 2-3 years into this generation...

[@mongoose621]

I'm a gamer from the 90s and early 2000s. I had a megadrive and PS1. Then, i joined the military and never bought a console after that. I'm now 43 and want to get back into gaming. But i wouldn't know where to start? It all seems a little overwhelming compared to back in the day when you bought a console, a handful of games, took it out the box, plugged it in the tv, inserted a disc and played a game. Does anyone have any advice on where to start, please? Thank you.

[@BlackArroToons]

So much potential yet to be be fulfilled by developers to create new PS5 games that take full advantage of the new consoles. It's been mostly prior gen games with a 4K/60 fps sheen going on 5 years in as of 2024.

[@Crashed131963]

There are many many new games that cant play on the ps4 but do on a ps5 . 155 ps4 games so far have the free 4k/60 patch now like Mass Effect and Witcher 3 all with fast ssd load times. Try and play Alan Wake 2 ,BDG3 and Jedi Survivor on a PS4 . The Ps5 is leaps ahead of a Ps4 .

[@BlackArroToons]

@@Crashed131963 PS5 is more powerful, and some games take advantage of that, I agree. Keeping in mind, the new generation is only really just getting started 4 years in with games that are starting to take full advantage of PS5 beyond fast loading/4K/60 fps as my point. Hoping for a lot more PS5 designed games in 2025.

[@aba100able]

The best games of this era are the remakes. This says a lot about today's gamers. These days most gamers devote themselves to climb a stupid leaderboard. Back in the day, gamers wanted to have fun by playing video games.

[@Izzlemcphizzle]

So glad I skipped this generation. Just got a ps5 for free from a family member and still haven’t even set it up. Jumping into PC was the way to go

[@Abel-Alvarez]

At this point just buy either a Nintendo switch and/or a gaming PC.

[@mfetterelli]

Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. GT7 in PSVR2 is the best video gaming ever.

[@maravreloaded]

The problem aren't PS4 and Xbox One. The problem is that 9th gen was POINTLESS. If you want a gaming PC get a PC to play 120fps 4K etc. PS4 to this date has enough processing power for any developer that doesn't need to make you see the porus and nose hair of your first person character model. Most indies and smaller titles have enough power. The magical SSD was a lie and a PS4 could run Rift Apart at mid graphics 1080p Why they keep the 8th gen alive? Because it's still usable and unless you're a graphics SNOB. Gaming REALISM peaked in 8th gen. RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2 is a PS4 and XB One game. 9th gen just exists to COMPETE against PCs.

[@cameronsimmons8743]

Final fantasy 16/Spider man 2 disagrees with that sentiment. Also. Cyberpunk was trash on the last gen console. I played on ps5 an had almost zero of the issues people were saying. 😂. Ps4 version was unplayable on launch . So you're wrong. BUT okay sure. I hate when people like you literally make comments with no proof or backup and low iq gamers agree. " yeah graphics suck lol" Ray tracing is night and day and ps4 cannot handle Ray tracing. Ps5 barely runs Ray tracing and runs games at 30 fps . Talk about gaming when you actually understand all of gamings parts. Thanks.

[@benm3382]

Sony and MS would be smart to divest from the "generation" hardware model. Currently they are betting their existence on keeping up with technology and locking you into using their PC box over another. Nintendo is in a good position, focusing on their own branding and exclusives plus fun elements like Joycons while completely disregarding the top graphics capabilities. Sony and MS need to be more diverse in their efforts, investing heavily in fostering their own exclusive IP while making every effort to improve qualify of life when using their systems.

[@leet47]

Here I am still playing Skyrim and Mass Effect and Witcher 3 and loving life. I just upgrade my PC every so often to replay my favorite games, but prettier.

[@acerimmer8338]

PC FTW! No backwards compatibility issues here.

[@majbt45]

It's funny how we are 4 years in, and we only have a handful of games that are truly next gen. (mainly only, Hellblade 2, Black Myth Wokong, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Star Wars Outlaws, Spider-Man 2, Alan Wake and Astro Bot.) Everything else is either that dreaded cross gen, or are remakes/remasters.

[@R3negad3BB01]

Too many new games are hyper focused on realism instead of art style & originality. All this catering to "modern audiences" has led to bland, & frankly, ugly games that don't appeal to anyone except to a very vocal minority

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

There's even a phenomenon centred around the Unreal Engine where games just have the same look, feel, vibe no matter what it is. That's very offputting once you notice it.

[@R3negad3BB01]

@@halfbakedproductions7887 That's an interesting thing to point out. Doesn't help that a good portion of western AAA devs solely rely on it to make their "industry-leading" games. Yet they're all churning out the same lifeless crap that we've seen for years

[@saidraalien6837]

Nintendo won this gen by a mile

[@TheLWebb100]

Maybe if you're a child.

[@Wierie_]

Oh boy cant wait to play italian man for the 99th time

[@albertwesker2k24]

Nintendo is still in the last gen

[@saidraalien6837]

@@albertwesker2k24 true

[@theoneonly2406]

This was a weird console generation with covid, scalpers, and people just not being able to buy a new console. This lead developers to making cross gen games just to try and make profit. Look at what sony done to square enix, got exclusive deals with ps5 only and both major games are saying sales didnt meet expectations.

[@supersaiyaman11589]

the exclusivity is the reason i didn't buy final fantasy 7 rebirth i am waiting for it to come to pc.

[@uchennaobi5985]

Square signed the deal though. It's a two way thing not one way. They sign epic deals too. Can't put all the blame on Sony , if they can say No. Ff7 remake deal was at least signed in 2015.

[@msd5808]

It's hard to realize a level of graphics on current gen hardware that can't easily be downgraded for a last gen release too. So it is tempting for companies to want to do cross-gen to maximize sales.

[@Clery75019]

If games play as great on the older gen than on the newer gen, then why making a new gen? And if you need to compare screens side by side to prove me it's better on the newer gen, that means it's not obvious enough to require a new gen. Just make a PS4 Pro Pro then, don't call it a PS5.

[@blueshattrick]

Consoles have essentially been "limited use computers" for generations now.. there's almost no reason to buy one instead of a PC or Mac

[@Mystic6600]

That's why I purchased a gaming laptop with a 3070. She runs perfectly. Ever since Sony started releasing their exclusives on PC I've been having a blast. Microsoft integrated Xbox in to windows 11 so I still have all my Xbox content. The only console I mainly play is my switch.

[@Abel-Alvarez]

Gaming laptop + Nintendo switch = unlimited games. 🔥🙏

[@NowAndToEternity]

play games at 60 fps and faster loading time is justification enough for the new console for me

[@rod253]

Smh 60fps is nothing new. There was 60fps games on ps3. Stop trying to justify the hype

[@NowAndToEternity]

@@rod253 by this logic u can play Pong at 120 fps since the year 2000. Why does anyone need to upgrade then? Maybe think like 2cm or more deeper next time?

[@Fleepwn]

​@@rod253How many 60fps games were there for the ps3 lol, 5?

[@TheTrickshot77]

Hi Mug, I have some magic beans for sale if you're interested?

[@rod253]

@NowAndToEternity u should take some time to think deeper if you believe old tech to be a upgrade

[@justintime343]

This is why the Nintendo Switch is winning this generation hand over fist. Switch 2 will obviously kick off the next generation while PS and XB are still struggling to get this gen off the ground.

[@ensabahnur7657]

Well that's cool Nintendo fans love being treated like SHIT & overcharged for their games & everything else!😂💯📠

[@lpfan4491]

​​@@ensabahnur7657I mean, at least the Switch has games?

[@ensabahnur7657]

@@lpfan4491 😂

[@mikef8846]

They never even did a decent Black Friday deal on PS5 consoles.

[@PrincePakiso-rh2wz]

Here's a simple summary: 9th Generation Consoles (PS5, Xbox Series X/S, Nintendo Switch) and Physical Games: _PS5:_ - Has disc drive (optional digital-only model) _Xbox Series X/S:_ - Xbox Series X has disc drive - Xbox Series S is digital-only (no disc drive) _Nintendo Switch:_ - Uses game cartridges (no discs) Physical Games: - Less common - Mostly digital releases - Collector's editions and special releases still available Reasons: - Convenience - Cost savings - Environmental concerns Future: - Digital gaming grows - Physical media niche remains Your preference? 1. Physical 2. Digital 3. Both 4. Other

[@cyasi]

I miss the simple PS2 type of games. The sheer variety, ease of use, simple menus. I’m so uninspired to buy new games right now- they look so uninspired…what few are out there.

[@TVadicto100]

A question for all of you gamers: ¿how come combat flight simulation is no longer a popular genre? I remember back in the 80s and 90s there were many good games of that sort: starting with Gunship (apache helo sim, commodore 64), F117-A, battle of britain, microsoft combat flight sim, X-wing vs tie fighter, wing commander, etc. With today's technology I think it would be really cool to play games like these, you know , with a big screen and surround sound.

[@Vesparox]

I Don't understand this either, it's my favorite genre. They only bring games out for people with a very short attention span it seems.

[@lycanwarrior2137]

You could say the same for RTS (real-time strategy), mascot/platformers, point-and-click adventures, music games like Guitar Hero, etc.

[@TeeTheguru]

Another problem is trying to make games more “life-like” MAKE THEM FUN!! there called video “GAMES” for a reason , If you want more realism go outside & touch grass

[@LUXXEN-yx9hv]

games used to cost less and take less time to develop. end of debates

[@Eheth1958]

Blame the democrats.

[@lpfan4491]

Problem 1: Money being wasted Problem 2: Time being wasted. Games DO NOT take 7+ years to develop, they just forgot what it means to not bite off more than you can chew.

[@illx2367]

PS5 was the end of the real gaming era in my eyes, consoles upsoared to $650-$700 dollars not to mention the TV prices to run them were about the same if not more. Less engaging and competitive with a bad feel for games. GTA 5 was abale to sell from 3 different console gens from PS3-PS5 yet felt like a badly made game. GTA IV deserved to atleast see PS4 yet didnt. PS3 was the peak and felt like the best games were ever put out on. Motorstorm, Resistance Fall of Man, Need for Speed, Resident Evil, Fight Night.. just so many and was even able to buy PS2 Classics and Play them. Playstation did fail with no backwards compatibility. Unlike Xbox which always had that feature. I stopped buying games for my PS4 after about 9 games. 5 of those are not able to be played because i dont pay for PSN. EVEN THOUGH I ALREADY BOUGHT THEM! Not only cause i got tired of paying for PSN access which felt like a huge waste for mediocre games to dissapoint. But there was nothing good being released. PS3 was a fun mini computer I dowloaded my iPod libary into. When I got a PS4 the UI and just overall use became absolutely usless it became close to impossible to upload picutres of my daughter, dog, car just overall life from a simple USB. Yes granted I got 1TB became really useless aswell when games were 200GB each, then 50Gb updates.. by then I only had about 5 games on my system at a time. My PS3 downloaded so much more movies and songs. NEVER thought twice about buying a PS5. still wont get one if they end up at $100. I bought 2 PS3's cause my first one had failed after 6 years. And I wish we still ran PSN for them cause right now i would get another in a heartbeat. Sony you failed at PS4. Who cares for 120FPS when the games are limited and boring after 10 mins of watching mostly cinematic scenes.

[@Lamtitude]

The 360/PS3 era had some of the best games of all time. There was so much innovation in gaming during that time. There isn’t a single next gen game that feels next gen.

[@cytokinestorm3074]

It's not just console gaming, it's the entertainment industry as a whole.

[@itsTonySaint]

The last 3 games on my PS5 that I’ve bought have been PS4 GAMES. Almost nothing modern of interest coming out.

[@paulrTX]

Great video, very well made, but I have to say you lost me at "2023 was a great year in terms of new releases." Most modern games are nothing but ESG-infested interactive movies, with repetitive gameplay, a hyperfocus on graphics (as opposed to fun), ugly character designs, and pretty much nothing truly original. Personally, I have an Xbox One and haven't really bothered to upgrade to the Xbox Series S/X or the PS5. I'm mostly playing last-gen titles and indie sim games on my recently-built PC lately. Judging from the comments, it looks like a lot of people are doing pretty much the same.

[@Thirteen31Music]

I don’t get why it’s now so costly and time consuming to make AAA games compared to previous generations? The hardware is more powerful than ever and they’re all built on 3rd party engines that provide most of the heavy lifting for physics, lighting etc etc. what aspect of game development is it that causes it to be so drawn out?

[@MatthewMedina-b7l]

I wonder if it’s comparable to the movie industry. The Marvel movies look terrible CG wise(not all but a bunch) and end up costing $250 million to make. Yet, Godzilla Minus 1 looked amazing and cost like $5 bucks to make. If I owned a studio I would definitely review how we are spending our money. Nintendo seems to have the right formula. Make a ton of AA games to fill in gaps between the AAA releases. Optimize the hell out of your games and stay within a reasonable budget. Going back to Marvel, some of the original movies looked better than the ones now. Makes no sense.

[@lycanwarrior2137]

Salaries, technology, inflation in general. EVERYTHING is now far more expensive than it was a few decades ago.

[@ITzTricky_x]

That’s how generations will be now. You don’t have to buy the lastest machine , but if you don’t, you will have lesser fps and resolution. For anyone that wants more fps or resolution , each generation will be worthwhile

[@ssjabroni]

Why did you compare the 360 and PS4? They aren't the same generation at all.

[@realgamers472]

Lmao I've been looking for someone else to notice. Literally saw the comparison and thought "did he actually forget about the xbox one?"

[@Pointman11111]

​@@realgamers472and he barely mentions current gen games Crossgen or not Horizon forbidden west is still the most impressive game on a technical level And barely any mentions of what the new hardware offers like 60fps in open world games and sometimes instant loading times

[@TheDerpyDolphin]

Maybe because the PS3 had a rough few years out of the gate and the Xbox One wasn’t as popular as the PS4. Just a guess though

[@donstarlancer]

Seriously the one reason I'd upgrade to PS5 is because it's backwards compatible. This generation has been so lackluster. I mean sure there's a handful of games I want but they'll be there.

[@AUTISTICLYCAN]

The other thing you did not list is the fact all the major developers want to make cash cow multiple player co op games that become a constant renewable revenue stream. The single player campaign is mostly dead in tripe A gaming. Most single player campaign games are double A Independent studios releasing to all platforms for maximum market saturation.

[@swellerace]

The next one won't be any better if there's a next one i mean it's the end of game discs and the console is just a device for digital and streaming nowadays but now you can access gamesand media with other devices the console isn't that important anymore!

[@realgtasacramentodashcam7292]

My brother-in-law gave me his 360 when he got the one after it. It's just sitting under the TV, I don't even know if it's hooked up, haven't touched it in a long time. The only system I've really ever played was my PSP, but the memory card slot doesn't seem to be working right so can't play iso images.

[@victorvargas9330]

Fyi, the 360 Marketplace will shut down permanently in exactly one week

[@Terry.W]

It comes to something when we play backwards compatible games that look good ..while waiting for the " new exciting " games

[@wylerXL]

third party dev are much more interested on last or cross gen console because of install base, unless Sony and Microsoft subsidized the cost of making games.

[@lukaede7172]

I bought a Xbox series X last year, I’ll be honest I only got it so I can play my Xbox 360 games on 60 FPS upscaled. I have a PS2 and PS3, used to have a PS4 but the only time I thought about getting a PS5 was when I nearly FOMOed for Final fantasy 7 rebirth. Soon as I heard about PS exclusive coming to PC I dropped that thought so fast.

[@christianbethel]

Same!

[@raven7988-v5n]

ok xbot

[@imonit1177]

Honestly. Ive mostly just enjoyed next gen updates of 8th gen games. Or games that are cross gen 9th gen games.Or 7th gen remakes and ports (Dead Space)(Red Dead Redemption). I dont own a single true PS5 exclusive. But I wont be selling my console any time soon because I will be playing Grand Theft Auto 6 on it. Have zero interest in a pro model of anything.

[@Melvin-kq5we]

PS2 and PS3 were the golden years

[@tonyreyes3761]

Yep

[@paulspopculture5592]

Definitely still play my PS2 get more enjoyment than todays stuff

[@olechristianhenne6583]

I've been playing the original Xbox as well as the Xbox 360 and owning the PlayStation 3 with pride I love the PlayStation 3 it was in my professional opinion the best console at it's time but after 18 or 16 years later the console has aged very horrible it's not as good as it once was and I actually prefer the PS5 or the PS4 but honestly though these newer consoles have just proven one thing that PC is the future and I'm enjoying my PlayStation 3 for the final playthrough in other words I'm not enjoying games like I used to there's too much a lot of b's in my modern gaming and too much modern wokeness and too much identity politics that wasn't much of a problem in the old days and at the same time they don't appreciate the tank controls in a classic gameplay and classic FPS something that I really hate about first person shooter is nowadays weather Hall sort of aim shoulder mechanic when I prefer the classic RTS style of FPS

[@D2theJ26]

The chip shortage made it hard to produce enough consoles to meet demand plus a lot of game development delays during covid

[@dctrbrass]

And scalpers. Just a perfect storm

[@Will-hs2um]

Keep demanding 60fps and we’ll continue to get 💩 games

[@geenaxion]

I switch to PC this generation. Best thing ever. No subscription BS just to play online.

[@ericmackrodt9441]

The install base of the previous generation is huge, and with those consoles having the same architecture as the current Gen ones, it has never been easier to build games that run on both generations. We ended up with this chicken-egg situation where people won't upgrade because the games are still coming out on previous Gen consoles and companies won't pass on that revenue potential from releasing on last Gen. You can be sure you'll still see cross gen games for a few more years.