This Convo Hits Hard | Rook tells Solas that she enjoyed working with him | Dragon Age Veilguard

[@ivanhunter6492]

Rook: You manipulated me! Solas: what part of the elven god of LIES do you not understand?

[@RevanSurik]

Rook: You manipulated me! Solas: I'm truly sorry T.T Anyway, you're the real MVP here, so take my dagger and slay that sun bitch down. I swear, by all I hold sacred, the Veil will not come down by *my* hand. Morgan Freeman voice: It would, in fact, come down by Rook's hand.

[@goldybutters9269]

*Morrigan Freeman

[@jcksparrowfan]

Solas and his goddamn approval will be my undoing XD

[@quietwitchgaming]

Same…

[@PixieDrag0ns-r1h]

"I will leave the Veil untroubled, it won't come down by my hands." Me out loud when I played it the first time. "YEA that's some FEY level bull sh** right there! whre's the shank option?"

[@stellasol5265]

I should be allowed to punch Solas here, and still get a good ending. One punch, just ONE! Is that so much to ask for after everything???

[@quietwitchgaming]

I'd like to just SLAP him real good once lol

[@strawbert879]

After I was trapped in the prison all so kept saying was this game better let me punch him, I need to punch him. The dialogue doesn't even come close to a verbal punching let alone a physical one 😡

[@PixieDrag0ns-r1h]

welll.... there's always inquisition. just save right before the convo so you can punch him again and again. tis what I did.

[@denan1]

This is a woke fell good all the time friendship sim not an actual dark fantasy RPG , dragon age actually is.

[@cariandi]

​@@denan1 Except Rook can absolutely punch him later on (which is immediately followed by stabbing him and shoving him back into his Fade prison). No friendship needed.

[@grymmoire]

This was such an awkward reunion. It was like - Rook (stares intensely) Solas (stares more intensely) Rook (stares even more intensely) Solas (I AM THE ELVEN GOD OF INTENSE AWKWARD STARING)

[@TheDreamingDays]

Solas's "nyehs" are funny as hell.

[@fructosecornsyrup5759]

Solas' Joey Wheeler impersonation.

[@mandalindream]

My Rook and Solas aren't a slow burn... they are a roast.

[@elfannak]

LMAO

[@strawbert879]

After Solas expresses surprise of Rook having escaped, I wish there were an option for Rook to say something along the lines of 'sucks that even with your power and hubris you couldn't escape on your own but I'm different. and better. maybe even better than you gods'

[@aroihkin]

Rook: Skill issue.

[@yorokobisweet6310]

A Rook Solas romance option woulda been great. Cuz of the tension is could’ve brought. It could be an option if you didn’t have Lavellan go for him in Inquisition. Idc about wether it woulda made sense narratively or not. This game needs more interesting content. If that was an option I’d have applauded them for it.

[@Jojo66630]

Actually, both my Lavellan and my Rook are of the opinion that Wisdom is best shared ;) It's a missed opportunity for an interesting romance either way, of you ask me. But I'm glad we at least got the option in Inquisition.

[@ookami-chan3328]

Got this for my 2nd Rook and it really shook me to my core...had those Lavellan moments all over again...

[@KutluMizrak]

After getting this convo chain myself, I said f it, despite having mythal's light, I fully tricked his ass. "I am a fool that finally met his match." Oh that was so good. So satisfying.

[@elfenlied6925]

Same! I never managed to punch him in Inquisition, so this was soooo satisfying.

[@Allaiya.]

Same!

[@eastbow6053]

to bad they had to butcher his character in order for you to hear this in the original plans solas either tranquilizes himself to trap the blight and save the world or brings back the titans that bring down the veil without casualties he is, was and always will be a hero who saved the world from slavery he is a great character and this hacks that released this slop that didnt sell can do nothing about it lmfao

[@jord839]

@@eastbow6053 Yeah... no. What you described sounds like a really terrible path to take a character who was revealed to have been tricking us and had complicated morals. If they went your path then that would make him ultimately right and a good person all the way through. I liked Solas quite a lot in Inquisition before and then especially after his reveal as a more complicated person, but once you make him complicated you need to follow that. Veilguard's not perfect, but Solas is one part that they definitely did right. What you described also sounds really dumb in terms of anything but a final possible game in the series. You cannot have "Titans Return" as an end state and ever hope to have another game because "No Titans" and "All Titans Back" is such a huge difference to the setting. They couldn't even handle the Dark God Baby, what makes you think Bioware of any era could handle that?

[@eastbow6053]

@@jord839 the series would have ended after this game, so there is no need for states bruh everything must have an end instead they ruined the series completely and now we wont get anything else cause the ip lost its value gj

[@Dragonsmagic2011]

It’s will not come down by “his” hand…true

[@josebaturamos]

In Inquisition there is a point where you have to go to a party with representatives of the main human kingdoms, if you take it this egg is presented with a diplomatic insult to humans so far-fetched that only players who know what it is the hat he wears understand how very bastard he was

[@TheKittyWonder]

So what exactly is the hat?

[@FA-px6bw]

This sentence(s) became a word jumble towards the end. It needs more grammar, adverbs,some punctuation, & a lot of TLC. I am pretty sure no one understood what you meant.

[@josebaturamos]

@@TheKittyWonder It is a modification of a helmet used by a militia of elves and dwarves that was a headache for the Orlesians, it emerged shortly after the "Great March" took the elven kingdom of the valleys and as a reaction to the racism of the Chantry. During the time they were active, they were their worst nightmare... We later discovered that Solas literally instigated, organized and prepared them.

[@TheKittyWonder]

@ where is this information found?

[@josebaturamos]

You can't miss it, search for "Solas hat" and you will find all the information

[@TheElusiveHorizon]

I chose this option first play and it hit hard.

[@BigJBear]

They should've continued the strife between him and the inquisitor. And Dorian as well.

[@davido.1233]

Solas hates blood magic but he uses it none-the-less.

[@Blindluck92]

He hates blood magic because it makes it hard to talk to spirits when he's dreaming. No issue anymore if the whole Veil is about to come crashing down.

[@ciri9142]

Ahhh I love him!❤ It's a shame Rook couldn't romance him.😢

[@reddsun6427]

There should of been that option if inky had not romanced him

[@maiafay]

AO3 fanfic Rook/Solas. Some good stuff there that’s in character and better than the game. Magpie and the Wolf is pretty decent. Some others too. A time travel one, crap can’t remember the name.

[@MakingSpiritualityReal]

There was no time to develop the bond with Solas in this game. Solas and the Inquisitor had much more time, since it takes a decade just to explore the Hinterlands.

[@pilotg2075]

They didn't write the plot or Rook in a way for that to be able to happen IMO. Solas can fall for Inquisitor Lavellan because she resonates with his true self (Wisdom), is kind, curious, always asking him questions and taking an interest in him when nobody else does. She sees past the mask, walks into his dreams, and surprises him with her wisdom and affection. She speaks in his same language (elven and the Hallelujah cadence). She becomes as mythological as he is. She finishes the duet of his heart in the end, a Hallelujah verse in perfect elven. Rook is set up as someone who only sees the mask of Fen'harel, who Solas never lets his guard down for and uses like a tool. To my disappointment, Rook is written as kind of heroic but not that bright, and they don't get to spend much time with Solas, which doesn't give them much of a chance to appeal to Solas' better side. I think it could work in a well written fanfiction that changes the story a lot, but in the game, they just can't connect on a deeper level.

[@mattphoenix4702]

@@pilotg2075Solas “learned” from his mistake of letting himself get too close to the Inquisitor (either romantically or platonically). Rook was always just a tool to Solas. Even if you earn his approval he doesn’t really let you close. He is always intending to betray Rook in the end. His distance would make developing any sort of relationship unlikely

[@shacoesquizofrenia]

is it wrong to ship them because i do

[@quietwitchgaming]

Same idc if it’s wrong 🥰

[@KadeSmash]

Oh I tore into him my first play through and was a little more than hostile when I started playing my second play through lol.. but I wanna see the other endings so

[@sindyk2719]

I am sorry… can’t stand that line anymore really haha

[@Cloud-ql3oy]

Why did they kill Varric off. Come on!

[@liszst]

hell no i dont want my rook to romance that bald elf

[@adamsirin7249]

They made Solas incredibly one dimensional in Veilguard

[@mattphoenix4702]

Yes and no. If you don’t take the time to go through all his memories and earn his approval he certainly seems that way. Putting in the effort to get him to open up (and a high-approval Inquisition import) leads to seeing a lot more of the depth you got from him in Inquisition. The Redemption ending is absolutely everything a person who chose to redeem Solas a decade ago wanted and needed to end the story. You aren’t going to get this ending by mistake though, you have to specifically be aiming for it and jump through a number of hoops to make it happen. To a new player I can definitely see how Solas seems 1-note or flat. Veilguard really didn’t do a good job of capturing the feel of the world and the soul of the characters in general.

[@adamsirin7249]

@mattphoenix4702 No that's far besides the point. It's just bad writing. Solas was fascinating because the story in Inquisition alluded to him being a mortal that gained great strength on his own terms and sought to free people from the propaganda of the 'gods'. He even mentions the village of his birth. There's a dignity to his character and it is only on very, very rare occasions that he offers anything resembling an apology. In Veilguard, he is written to be largely without principles, more like a generic Loki from Marvel movies. Poor dialogue even. "People die. It's what they do" "I won't lose to a mere mortal", when Solas whole character is that of not looking down upon mortals and mortality. And he's CONSTANTLY apologising for wrongdoing and screwing up all over the place. Also, that wolf transformation. Great ideation but extremely poor execution.

[@hellodelightfulrando]

@@adamsirin7249 I am so tired of typing this but PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD remember that is this game suffered a great amount of losses, it’s a miracle it came out at all. All the people I see nitpicking it never seem to even acknowledge that: 1. The game got almost completely scrapped several years into development, destroying a lot of people’s hard work 2. BioWare has been hemorrhaging staff, between people leaving of their own accord and staff getting canned because of poor management 3. No doubt pressure from EA forced them to put this game out because BioWare has unfortunately been plagued with bad releases back to back. I wouldn’t be surprised if BW dies as a studio in the next few years So before you start throwing around accusations of “poor writing”, acknowledge that what happened to Veilgaurd is far more nuanced than you think. I’m not saying the writing doesn’t have issues, I’m saying that maybe people should stop pretending to be ✨gaming elitists✨ when ya’ll won’t even acknowledge the struggles a piece of art or a game went through and how that affects the quality of the game. Cause I don’t see you or people like you say anything about the harm the gaming industry and consumers like you do to video games… you’re just as “one dimensional” as Solas 🙄

[@dianadrozd175]

@@adamsirin7249 Not at all. There’s been a ton of codex entries and Cole’s banter implying that Solas was a Spirit of Wisdom and Mythal’s second-in-command. People have been theorizing this for over 10 years. He even mentions missing court intrigue, which fits since he was part of the Evanuris’ inner circle from the beginning. To the Inquisitor, he shows his “Wisdom persona” because he needs to stay close and keep an eye on the situation. He offers his knowledge and friendship to achieve that. In DAV, he’s fully in his “Pride persona.” To Rook, he’s the Dread Wolf, and he uses them as a pawn. Let’s not forget-this is a man who killed his best friend in cold blood because they became a liability to his mission (The Masked Empire novel featuring Felassan was released before DAI). Solas can be both of these things. He had to rely on wisdom and cunning (becoming a trickster) to outmaneuver the Evanuris because he couldn’t match their power.

[@adamsirin7249]

@@dianadrozd175 No..... which banter exists that references Solas being a spirit taking a body in Inquisition? Solas even tells the inquisition the village of his birth, Leliana's notes. Also in trespasser, in the eluvians and crossroads, the sanctum of fenharel makes it rather explicit that the evanuris are mortals that rely on propaganda.

[@crow1890]

This game is such a shitshow. It completely erased any real grit or harshness, everything was sanitized and so much lore was destroyed through mere codex's. Not to mention almost everything you worked to change or protect in the previous games was made to not matter. It is a bland, pompus, pandering fluff piece that should have no right to be called a dragon age game.

[@CornyG4711]

I wish people didn't support this game. So Bioware knew to not do this again

[@ashleighpayne155]

This slams home how awful the writing really was for veilguard. Killing Elgarnan didn’t drop the veil, the ritual and the dagger was still required. Varric’s plot twist was disgusting- a character we’ve love for 3 fucking games…. And NO ONE says shit about him, especially Isabela or Inquisitor? I could go on…