Dragon Age: The Veilguard All 5 Endings (Good, Bad, Secret) 4k

[@BenGun]

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[@a.m.pietroschek1972]

But, I identify as rich, successful, and victorious! 🤣

[@Arionid]

I dont want to fix him bro wheres the ending where I help Solas destroy the absolute state of this world 💀

[@glowhoo9226]

Right? Let me restore the old world.

[@Kira.wolf98]

😂

[@ajet0452]

no bad ending, no roleplay

[@elvenrat]

Yeees! Where is that ending?!

[@nicolasritzke1042]

@@Arionid Wrong franchise, my friend. In Dragon Age, you will always be the hero and save the world.

[@joedatius]

It feels like the entire time you should of been playing as the Inquisitor again or atleast have them as a party member. Rook just seems like a huge afterthought

[@erym7483]

@joedatius i kinda wish the inquisitor was the main character since they have history with Solas, and since the Inquisition disbanded, we form a new team with Varric. Trespasser pretty much had that set up in its ending and then they changed directions. I guess since they really couldn't bring in new players or do a soft reboot since it's been a decade.

[@em9214]

Do they ever mention the inquisitor in the game?

[@rachelbarkema7232]

@@em9214 from what ive seen you can customize the inquisitor in the character creation (bg3 guardian vibes) so all i know is that they're there lol

[@pativi6643]

I'd actually say that Inky seems like a huge afterthought in this game. Like except for the best ending, they don't even see Solas at all or speak to him at all. And funnily if Lavellan romanced Solas, it is Rook who tells her if she should go with him at the end or forsake him in one conversation they have.

[@TheJadeJester]

Rook really feels like an afterthought.

[@min181094]

I wish there was an ending where solas wins.

[@ElivenaAraniss]

I was hoping for that too

[@a.726]

but then they wouldn't be able to make a linear DA5

[@ElivenaAraniss]

@@a.726 it would certainly be possible, he just wants to think about it

[@min181094]

@a.726 Maybe they shouldn't either way hah

[@a.726]

@@min181094 well you don't have to buy games that you don't want to play but there are people who do such as myself

[@Heavenly_Father]

I wish there was a Solas wins ending, just cuz I don't want to play any future dragon age entries

[@aqlanimations4822]

I knew somehow in this message crap, it would make Solas a freaking wimp. He was so confident and awesome in the Trespasser DLC ending, to this. I hate when they make the men weak for no reason, but to appease Reddit people that don't play games.

[@zmark7843]

i was hoping there's a ending where solas teardown the veil, but nope i guess...

[@MusicaX79]

@@aqlanimations4822 Solas is the way he is because current Bioware is to scared to do an extremely high magic high fantasy setting for a game. That's it! "I have to do my job and come up with something cool? No that too hard." It's lower than woke it's enforced incompetence.

[@aqlanimations4822]

@@zmark7843 Have a guy prevail in modern US games, not happening lol, they can't even have a villian male be competent. They ended Varric in the stupidest way, Imagine if you could have Hawke there to take the blow, or react to Varric, these writers are Dumb/sses

[@Kira.wolf98]

​@@aqlanimations4822I agree that Trespasser dlc was epic and well written, the ending of DAV is a bit poor and average from my point of view. But Solas is not a weak Man, emotions are not a weakness. He was a character deeply tormented from his past and from his actions and Mythal set him free. I'm glad to see him finally letting go of the past. There are many things I didn't like about DAV but what can we do? The game is done. The franchise ends here for me with its good and bad

[@pppgggr]

I- Jesus christ. The best ending is servicable, but the other two? They have fundamentally misunderstood the character and motivations of Solas. "I AM A GOD". He rejected that moniker from day one. He was trying to heal the world at great cost, not rule it. He was trying to bring back a world of magic and immortality. He just didn't fully understand the nature of existence without the Veil, until he met the Inquisitor. To him, we were all empty shells of something once greater...Shells that he created, and reminders of his guilt. To make him sound so horrifically prideful like this. For him to sneer down at the veilguard. God, I wish we were in the universe where we got Dread Wolf instead.

[@SoulessStranger]

Your comment is 100% how I feel about this whole thing. Also the fact that for nearly 10 years they strung us up for Dreadwolf only to change it to this circus a few months ago still doesn't sit right with me. A year of wait for Trespasser, then 8 years with two reveals for Dreadwolf, hyping people for Solas and elven rebellion and we get this. 60 minutes of Solas in total with around 15 of Inquisitor. Hawked doesn't even show up for Varric. Everyone acts like Rook is the next best thing in the universe. We never hear about anyone from the games before and Morrigan is suddenly vessel of Mythal. It is a shame when the fans are way more invested in the lore and story than the developers / writers.

[@Adanu191]

This is what happens when you get wokies directly in charge of your products. They'd rather put out black and white crap over anything nuanced.

[@abednegokurio9244]

@@pppgggr I think the point is that he's a hypocrite. He rejects the Gods and their tyranny but at the end of the day he's also forcing his will upon the world. Him shouting "I AM A GOD" is just the mask finally slipping off in his lowest moment.

[@mako3197]

Agreed, I think they have recharacterised him completely and in doing so, have taken away what made him a compelling character in the first place. The Solas here is worlds away from DAI/Trespasser Solas who wanted to restore the freedom and glory of the elves. Now his motivations completely center around Mythal (don't even get me started on the damage done to Morrigan and Flemeth). He even contradicts himself as early as 30 minutes in DAV (in DAI he explicitly says he does not believe the use of blood magic is inherently evil). I had my misgivings about the game but got it hoping for a satisfactory end to Solas and the Inquisitor's stories (since Trick Weekes is still with Bioware). What a gut punch.

[@rapmonied]

"So horrifically prideful"...he. He is literally Pride. They explained this in the game, we theorized this for years, he always acted like it. The only reason he never said it before is because he always felt he was *in control*. As long as he was one step ahead he could maintain his carefully curated facade. For his pride, he walked on the bones of anyone, just to satisfy his ideals. No price was too great. No life to important. If you do not see his delusions of grandeur, and can't take them to their logical conclusion then idk what to tell you. This is exactly what a Solas who has been outplayed for real by those he views as lesser would say.

[@TheSpawnfan]

Can't believe they hit us with the cliche of the Ominous Evil Council of Vagueness in post credit...

[@hinkelstein1494]

Not only that, they manipulated Loghain into retreating so Cailan would die... and made Varric's brother go mad, for reasons? I hate it so much. This is so bad.

[@TheSpawnfan]

@hinkelstein1494 Varric has another brother? Because Red Lyrium made Bertrand and Knight Commander Meredith go mad, as for Loghain, his retreat in Origins was justified given how pragmatic the Wardens are, if they did it again here i doubt there's a good reason, they also made Varric look generic.

[@hinkelstein1494]

​@@TheSpawnfan’m talking about Bartrand. The scene with the Executors (the guys set up to be Thedas's Illuminati) clearly implies that he didn’t go mad because of the idol, but because they somehow drove him mad with their whispers. Also, while Loghain had his retreat justified, they’re clearly setting up that the generic Evil Council-the Executors-were actually behind it, manipulating him into throwing the battle at Ostagar, you know... for reasons. Because they’re evil and planned all of this, somehow and for some reason. You don't need to tell me that this is terrible, I know.

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

All according to keikaku. -Evil council of Forgotten ones who really weren't doing anything.

[@TheSpawnfan]

@@hinkelstein1494 yup, that's horrible, a complete mess and contradicts the Red Templars lore and Lyrium too, and Loghain's character, he suspected, probably correctly, that his army was going to either be sacrificed or suffer heavy losses so that the Wardens would send reinforcements to Ferelden, we saw him as evil because the Watdens recruited our player character. What a load of garbage.

[@mohammadabdelrahman786]

Solas.... Would never say... I am a God...

[@KlokLogic]

Completely threw me off this is not Solas his character actually seems off this entire game along with other characters.

[@GenshinLover283]

@@KlokLogic I chalk that up to his pride getting the better of him and to be fair he technically ain't wrong. Compared to Rook and the other members of the Veilguard he IS a god

[@TheSpawnfan]

@@mohammadabdelrahman786 Let's not forget we destroy his ritual, that was centuries in the making, because he couldn't be bothered to protect his statues nor give them proper scaffolding.

[@eastbow6053]

@@TheSpawnfan are your trying to find login in this game made by illogical people?

[@snail90-t9u]

For all the flaws in this game, this is not one of them. He always believed he is better than people around him and wanted to be in charge, deciding what the world should be like, this extreme and emotional situation just finally allows it to get to the surfice. Not a bad writting.

[@Capta1nD1abetes]

Can you imagine if we got the HOF, Hawke and the Inquisitor for one final showdown? The warden who has experience fighting a blight and is one of the most respected Grey Wardens to date. Hawke, who is a general nutcase and has no idea what he's doing but we love him. And the Inquisitor who, depending on your story, has the most reason to want to see Solas fail/win and has experience with end-of-the-world scenarios. Instead... We got Rook... a half-baked daycare worker who Varric probably found while drunk and desperate.

[@edsol6429]

@@Capta1nD1abetes THIS right here.

[@OverthinkingpatronJJ]

@@Capta1nD1abetes that would have been EPIC!

[@gipsymelody1268]

i litereally talking about this since the first prev several years ago! how cool would be if appear all of the 3 heroes like warden if died then can return with a spirit like anders and krisstof but as the spirit of courage or duty or heroism or hope if not died then easy. hawke can also escape from the fade cause solas litereally opened it even in the tresspasar's event it heavily damages and full of holes. alastair also can be fine cause half elf, who drank lyrium for many years, got the blight bless, and also has dragon (reaver) blood! (one of his king ancestor drank dragon blood and became reaver...) then we could get chapters with each heroes and in the final showdown litereally has 3 boss enemy! warden got the dragon hawke the another inquisitor litereally go for solas... each fight could be seperated so not interrupt each dialoges.... :S we got a rooky grey warden davrin who has a damn legendary griffin!!! is he the best person who deserve it? imagining in the trailer suddenly a big griffin strike on the enemy resuce the inquisitor and on the back of the griffin would be the warden hero of ferelden! i also could image how hawke got a new power cause spent time in fade and can transform into a giant hawke and go impact to the dragon... like how most of mage can use transformation magic and even strongest ones can trasnform into big stuffs...

[@Dedhaven]

This Bioware is too incompetent to include all of our choices from the past 3 games... 10 YEARS! They had 10 years and gave us this garbage.

[@professorwright1428]

We've had a new protagonist each game. Why would this one be different?

[@vancodusan9554]

So Solas, the mastermind from the previous game who was always one step forward is a total idiot. It doesn't matter if you revolted against Flemeth in DAO, or she gave Morrigan the green light in the previous game to live in peace, she gets Morrigans body anyway, and Kieran is non canon.

[@Will12041]

@@vancodusan9554 the story of veilguard is a Total disrespect for fans

[@alexmahaney9985]

Wait for real!

[@missbunnypaints7743]

@@vancodusan9554 and the well of sorrow choice is useless... I was so intrigued about the implication it had to Mythal, being her servant. Wasted plotential

[@SoulessStranger]

Im not disagreeing but I think that maybe, just maybe, there is a possibility that Mythal got into Morrigan's body after Inquisition where we see her push that wisp of her soul through the Eluvian before she gives the rest of her power to Solas. If true, it would not make Kieran non canon, just not mentioned.

[@zoushaomenohu]

Even masterminds can make dumb decisions when their emotions get the better of them. That's part of the story Veilguard's trying to *tell* .

[@luizmarinho6138]

Anyone who has played Inquisition knows that Solas would NEVER boast about being a god or call others "mortal".

[@emilyeastham6470]

@luizmarinho6138 yeah he hates being called dreadwolf and fenharel

[@imshail]

Except that Solas is originally a spirit of wisdom, the same kind that get corrupted into demons of pride, it is absolutely in character for him to act like this, hell his name is elven for "pride".

[@SheppardGSG]

> or call others "mortal" he just said outright that all the mortals around him were empty shells, as if the whole world had been tranquiled. That's much better in da4 he is also denies that he is a god. Always

[@Lc-Anders]

People change surprisingly when giving them time like a ten year difference

[@tekakiuluy3221]

@@Lc-Anders ten years for a guy who lived thousands is like a drop in the ocean

[@steelfalcon472]

Im sorry but if they wanted to connect this new group of villains to dragon age origins they shouldn't have connected them to logahin it kinda ruins his character especially if youve read the books. If they wanted to show that they "guided" events they should have connected them to the first blight. Maybe show Duncan instead to show that they guided him to the Hero of Fereldan for a reason.

[@Dedhaven]

Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.

[@crumpet-kun]

@@Dedhaven So the devs of this game are evil for distorting and destroying Dragon Age? That checks out

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

@@crumpet-kun Also for being woke weirdos that wish death on trump supporters on twitter

[@steelfalcon472]

@@crumpet-kun I mean the is the first DA game that literally feels like our choices don't matter. The only way to get the true ending is to go the Solavellin route with morrigan drinking from the lake, what if my male Dwarf Inquisitor wants to save Solas too?

[@debishvebishwish4839]

@@steelfalcon472 you can do that.

[@VGirl]

So...Solas didn't really want to destroy the world but Mythal made him and all she has to do is say 'actually nvm' and he stops? What about all the times in DAI where Solas talks about how much better it was when the spirit and mortal worlds were one and you learn his greatest fear is dying alone? What are his real beliefs and values? Who did Lavellen fall in love with? If he was enslaved by Mythal all along, how was he able to kill Flemeth? I don't think Solas was intended to still be Mythal's slave in DAI. I think he used to be Mythal's slave, but he broke free of her control by DAI and was written as a free man, who wanted to collapse the Veil of his own free will. Veilguard just retconned him to still be Mythal's slave because...idk. EA mandates? The writers who weren't laid off were forced to rush the game?

[@TheSpawnfan]

@@VGirl I thought Solas absorbed Mythal

[@wiziek]

Stop thinking about this in logical manner. Bioware is just making stuff up.

[@graye2799]

He was never a slave of mythal. Her saying that was more so symbolic of her saying he doesn't owe her anything anymore.

[@Enel97]

My brother in christ do you lack basic media literacy? He wasn't a slave to her and controlled he simply thought this is what she would want and was best for the world based on her. And she tells him she is ok with the world as it is

[@afrobanditx2972]

@@VGirl Okay let me try to help you put pieces together. In the beginning solas was just a spirit who didn’t want to have a form but she called to him and kinda coerced him into taking form and the form he took he ended up being the champion of the “gods” keep in mind he was the only one able to walk amongst both evanuris and forgotten one according to lore so imagine being the only elf who can chill at both lunch tables his purpose was changed the second Mythal coerced him to take form and the form he took became pride. “Solas was first the dread wolf came later -Solas in DAI” he was in service to Mythal not enslaved. His ideology is that he knows what he’s doing is completely wrong and will kill thousands if not more but if he stops it invalidates everyone he’s already killed to get to this point and it invalidates his first love, Mythal. This entire series up until now has been one big love triangle. Elgarnan and Mythal are married, Mythal calls to solas he becomes the third wheel and the side piece to Mythal. Elgarnan is a dick to everyone including her and solas waged war against him in the name of protection and freedom ‘the same shit Mythal is known for’ They fight they fight again Mythal eventually gives them the that’s enough speech and she ends up dead. Side piece gets enraged banishes elgarnan and his whole family (equivalent to killing the husband and the children) then realizes his actions neutered his people which would be the exact opposite of what his love would want so he’s hell bent on fixing it for her. She finally returns to him and tells him she is okay and the world is okay and he can go home to the place he never wanted to leave from in the first place. That’s literally the story they made lol.

[@Kat1kafka]

The manipulating of old characters,especially the one with Logain,was full on cheap and lazy.

[@stupidme12114]

They need a new villain to have a continuation of their paycheck. That's why the Aveng... I mean the Veilguard was formed HAHAHAHAHAHA. EFFIN CRAP FOR A STORY WRITING

[@MusicaX79]

"NO you see the Lore Master is gone so I'm in charge therefore my lore is cannon that makes it better, see bigger and badder and worse, that better." Watch it be the The Forbidden Ones. the loser demons you bend over a basin in very Dragon Age game.

[@TheCrimsonOne508]

@@MusicaX79it’s the Executors. BioWare have been trying to subtly set them up since a series of war table missions in Inquisition (they didn’t do a very good job). They look and sound exactly how they’re described in Tevinter Nights

[@jgray-bo5fc]

Taking away a characters agency is a pretty bad way to build something new

[@thebigodon9433]

This I agree with, they should not mess with that

[@Dip-z8q]

The Solas romance ending makes no sense. The Inquisitor already tried to talk him out of it and failed. But now years later it is suddenly different. Couldn't Flemmeth/Mythal just have released him from service back when they met at the end of the Inquisition, thereby avoiding being killed by him? The characters in this franchise used to have depth, flaws, and secrets. The world was full of lore, mystery and unanswered questions. It kept the fanbase going all these years, deep dive into the story and lore, lots of interesting, complex and deep theories and discussions. I feel like any of the fan theories I've seen, though the years are deeper, more interesting, and fit better with the lore established in previous games. What we got just seems tame in comparison.

[@Darinl79]

Ahhh that’s what it is. The game doesn’t match shitty fan theories so it sucks. Origins didn’t have depth. Everyone was so one dimensional you just let nostalgia run wild

[@БогданМаксименко-ь4э]

​@@Darinl79 In Origins the story and characters were much deeper and more diverse than in Veilguard.🤣

[@Dip-z8q]

​@@Darinl79 Lol, no. It is just that those shitty fan theories somehow manages to surpass what was made here. If you find the characters in previous games boring and one dimensional, then that's on you, I think their popularity speaks for itself. Whats really the problem is that fans expected an continuation of what made the previous games a succes. Had they just made it clear from the start that they were going to reboot it as a light hearted linear action game, then fans could have had time to make their peace with it. Instead we got this massive disappointment. No it is not a bad game, its a perfectly fine 6-7/10 action game, and I might have enjoyed it for what it is, had it not shat all over the dragon age legacy and its fans.

[@graye2799]

Solas wasn't ever controlled by Mythal. She was just essentially saying to solas he doesn't owe her anything anymore and can stop his quest now.

[@graye2799]

This game is mediocre and has alot of issues, but I don't think the best ending is one of them.

[@Kolbitar-p3y]

That post credit scene can go f... itself : "oh, hey, remember all these characters and choice from the previous game that could have been put into this one?" It feels like the most insulting middle finger to the players, a taunt. No, take it back and shove it where the sun don't shine with this bullcrap.

[@Kavino]

It robs these characters of their agency, especially Loghain who did what he did out of a sense of misguided patriotism which is central to his character. This ending just destroyed all of his motivations and made him a buffoon.

[@gipsymelody1268]

yeah! the only good one is the red lyrium... it litereally stated wishper to others' ears... loghain and the king just fine... even the stupidity of the king just fine may if really someone guided him... still should let loghain alone...

[@MKDAWUSS]

A slap in the face to a 15 year debate. In addition, is BioWare really in a spot to be doing cliffhanger endings/teasers? They should have saved that for when things are a bit more stable.

[@vanyadolly]

How anyone can defend this game after that is beyond me. They've nuked the south of Thedas and Kirkwall, fucked up established characters, and rewritten the whole story to retrospectively make it worse.

[@Odin46]

Once again, all these fighters for social justice are destroying everything that was created before them. Hello Disney and Star Wars.

[@jbabylucus1641]

So they purposefully made a game where we cant choose if we want the veil to fall? Cowards.

[@Adanu191]

All I'm hearing is 'do you want to genocide the entire world'? This has never been a game series about being a psychopath that does things to be sadistic.

[@Kira.wolf98]

They didn't probably because they wanna make a sequel

[@swagdaddy8298]

They want everything to look good, all about rainbow and sunshine like "no no no it's bad we can't offend people, we have to do good deeds"

[@Bronwyn031]

@@swagdaddy8298 And what on Earth is wrong with that? Go play BO6 if you want to see the World burn.

[@thebigodon9433]

We never had that choice though, in no other game in the series, not on DAO, DA2, DAI Hell, even other games from other companies, it's very rare to see one that lets you END THE FUCKING WORLD, most understandably make it a "game over" when that happens

[@AgentofChaos315]

I like how Solas isn't as angry if you trick him over fighting him, he's a spirit of Wisdom, he hates the idea that raw force is what beat hin over him realizing he lost because he didn't take a close enough look at the dagger

[@БогданМаксименко-ь4э]

Everything we did in Origins doesn't matter, it doesn't matter that we protected Morrigan from Flemeth, it doesn't matter whether she was married to HoF, whether she has a son or not, all of this is in fact recognized as non-canon, just like DA2. This game spits in the face of many original fans. The whole game is made for solavellan.

[@diegosworld5388]

@@БогданМаксименко-ь4э DA2 ?! DA2 is a literall masterpiece compared to that crap, i mean definitly a downgrade from origins to DA2 but still it wasnt that shit and it didnt shit on the whole lore and choices made by the fanbase, this is just dissapointing and depressing man literally nothing positive from this like its just a woke mess made by bastards who prolly never oalyed a dragon age ever.

[@БогданМаксименко-ь4э]

@@diegosworld5388 It seems you misunderstood me, I meant that everything we did in Origins and DA2 was basically thrown out and forgotten by the developers. And I agree that DA2 is a masterpiece compared to Veilguard, especially considering that DA2 was made in just 16 months and the then development team didn't have enough time to make it really good, but even despite this, they moved saves and made about 20 quests that depended on decisions made in Origins. The new team of developers just spat in the face of the fans of the first two parts and didn't recognize all the decisions from them and most of Inquisition.

[@opronwin-fa8959]

Im grateful for not being able to waste money on the game. Besides the woke mess and the terrible design choices the lore was either retconned or disneyfied into non-existence... this is like GoT season 8 all over again 😅

[@diegosworld5388]

@@БогданМаксименко-ь4э yeah man im sorry i misunderstood, i thought you were saying that da2 and this game spit in the face of the original fans. Like you said despite the 16 months of developpement da2 was pretty good and decent and took account of the choices made in origins, its not even anger that i feel its just pure sadness so many memories from origins to inquisition just ruined by that crap.

[@БогданМаксименко-ь4э]

@@diegosworld5388 Yes, it's sad that such a franchise with such potential as Dragon Age turned into this nonsense. We can only console ourselves with the first three really good parts, and Veilguard does not exist for me personally. Instead, I made my own headcanon 🙃.

[@gatorssbm]

My favorite part of the ending is when the Rook told Solas you are the Dragon Age Veilguard and then he said its veilguardin' time and veiled over all over those guys.

[@jenifhaque3501]

You forgot when Solas said "No, we are the Dragon Age Veilguard".

[@primepm8861]

@@gatorssbm I hate that Goddamn Morbius joke. At least find something original.

[@galaxy6251]

"Elgar'nan would have siezed his victory by force... You were bested fairly by wits alone" Buddy you forcefully took the dagger off me

[@dreadwolf]

❤Solas in Inquisition: An ancient, powerful mage who had his own philosophical view on everything and a unique worldview. He was an enigma, a mystery to everyone, a strategist who could outwit everyone and tip the scales in his favor. He was an idealist who truly wanted to restore his people to their former glory. He was a deep, contradictory, sensitive and complex character. 💔Solas in Veilguard: "Oh, Mythal, I should have done everything for Mythal, I will follow Mythal anywhere, I want to bring back the world Mythal wanted, I must destroy the Veil, because Mythal's death should not be in vain. Mythal, Mythal, Mythal..." That's pathetic. Forgive them, Solas. That's all I had to say.

[@Limen2402]

Solas got John Snow treatment.

[@EvaLoVerde]

I completely agree with you. It seems that Solas' morals that were such a crucial part of his character in the past were completely thrown out the window in favor of making him do everything 'for love'

[@dendrien]

I’m confused here. Wasn’t mythal flemeth whom he betrayed and killed in inquisition? I dunno I find their entire relation and character so, off

[@genevievec.8002]

So, the idea is that Solas was never stupid enough to make certain choices, but because of his love of Mythal (platonic) he made them anyway. However, it led to dire consequences which he ended up regretting, to the point where in Inquisition he did kill Flemeth, who was the host of Mythal because to rectify his mistakes, he needed the power. So much so, that he was willing to kill his longest time friend. In Veilguard, he's still dead set on that path and basically is a sucker for the sunken cost fallacy - he's put so much in, so many have died, the world has suffered so much because of his choices and to rectify his actions, that at this point, his actions in Inquisition in particular - creating the tears in the fade, tricking the Inquisition, killing Flemeth/Mythal, would all be for nothing. He also does believe that the veil was a mistake, his mistake, but he's so stuck on that he ignores the reality that removing the veil would just create new problems. He's one of the things they did really well in the game.

[@genevievec.8002]

Okay, I take it back a little - the endings where he's all holier than thou because he's a god are so lame. Something like, "you'd never understand - you've never seen the world, the fade, as it was. It's beautiful, but you're too ignorant to know it."

[@VGirl]

'You were never ready to make the sacrifices that leadership requires' is such a stupid line for Rook to say to Solas in the bad end. Solas lead the rebellion against the elven gods in ancient times. He sacrificed the elven empire to seal away the gods. In his chess match against Iron Bull, Solas wins because he sacrifices his major pieces while Iron Bull doesn't.The problem isn't that he doesn't make sacrifices. The problem is that he's *too* comfortable. Solas doesn't sacrifice enough people to win, what the hell kind of reasoning is that

[@AverageVagrant]

@@VGirl She means the hardest sacrifice a man can ever do - himself. That what he can't make. At least without his lover

[@brwnhearteyes]

also it’s such an unfinished line 😭 where’s the final ‘but i am’ before they both fade away. If you’re going to make it stupid at the very least make it sound badass

[@sarlotadanielova7152]

@@VGirl rook meant he isn't able to sacrifice himself. That's the sacrifice leadership requires, to die if necessary. Not to send others to death, but to do it yourself if it comes to it

[@rapmonied]

​@@brwnhearteyes ever heard of things being implied? no? ok

[@rapmonied]

If you think that a leader is a great leader insofar as he is capable and willing to sacrifice any one person he leads then I don't know what to tell you 😅 The only place Solas ever led people was to their doom. One by one, he doomed the elvhen, he doomed the Inquisition, he even doomed his oldest friend and once more he was ready to lead the world to its doom.

[@joedatius]

The Grey Wardens being treated as a cutesy group of heroes feels like a complete slap in the face of the series as a whole. Not everything has to be dark and edgy but the Grey Wardens are one of the most morally dark aspects of the entire setting. Even Inquisition understood this by having Blackwall have a dark and frankly pretty messed up past. If feels like there should of been a continuation of the Hero of Ferelden trying to find a cure for the Wardens as a part of their story in this but this "they all lived happily ever after" is just saccharin since the Wardens are literally forced to die horrific deaths regardless of if the blight is an actual issue or not.

[@quantras2673]

Hell the wardens you deal with in inquisition are panicking like crazy because they're all feeling the calling suddenly and freaking out, willing to work with that Venatori group or whatever their name was to stop it.

[@witchsandwerewolfs]

They’ve left it open for the “forgotten ones” and titans who the blight actually came from as a result of the elves severing the titans spirits from their forms. So in the next game (if people could stop shitting on this series so we can get continuations instead of the internet murdering everything it gets its grubby hands on) I feel like we could possibly get a worsen. Everyone be nice and give genuine none hateful criticism and we might get the games we deserve instead of the trollop shit that come out as a result of but hurt fans throwing tantrums that “a piece of modern artwork and story telling made by people telling stories about a made up universe for fun” isn’t exactly the way they wanted it to be. Veil guard was an awesome installation to DA and I can’t wait to play it day in day out. I hope there’s DLC and I hope the haters won’t kill this game. Remember how there were so many retouches and added lore with dlc and patches of Origins, DA2, Mass Effects and others. Had people outrage killed those games when there was issues in the releases we wouldn’t have these series.

[@achmadtitofauzan3809]

@@witchsandwerewolfs not to mention the foreign entity who makes another appereances in the end credit, afterall, in Inquisition and Tevinter Nights, they were mentioned too

[@dirimi6352]

@@witchsandwerewolfs You are the minority and people who represent you are just as hateful as the other side. As someone who came here to see the ending because I can't stand playing the game I feel like the discourse is very polarizing and hateful more than ever and that's due to the gaslighting. They gaslighting of legacy media giving it a 9 across the board and people feeling as if they are lied to about this game not pushing a certain agenda. If they were to say what they made which is in my opinion a girl for 12 year old girls (I don't mean it as an insult) with a very uncreative way of pushing their agenda using current-isms then I think it would have went a lot smoother with the community. They know that, but it would sell even worse. Therefore they lie, they try to upsell the game and gaslight. I am just sad none of the things I have done in a franchise it always mattered what I have done matter. After watching this ending trying to slog through 50h I would want the "bad" Ending anyway

[@Dreadhorizon]

@@witchsandwerewolfs Here's some criticisms I have for the game: 1. It's not fun - Combat sucks, enemies are damage sponges with no tactical depth, you can't control your companions, powers feel very anime 2. It's no longer Dragon Age - Grim themes are entirely erased in this game, everything is too bright and almost every character reflects this, making nothing feel urgent or threatened A continuation of this game would suck. Period. At this point, and I think a good chunk of us fans who loved the FIRST Dragon Age would agree, we would prefer a DA: Origins remaster and then a NEW series of sequels following that. None of this Solas and his elven moron gods crap, or Corypheus and his water-downed "dark mages" shit. A proper sequel where at the center is a grim and gritty setting besieged by an actual established threat to the world: the Blight.

[@ceberskie119]

The secret after credits scene....this whole game was literally written by tumblr fanfic rolplayers...dragon age is dead long live dragon age

[@Joe_doesnt_know]

@@ceberskie119 what was it about i didn’t get it.

[@okllo]

nah, tumblr has better headcanons than this trash. blame tiktok or wattpad.

[@ceberskie119]

@Joe_doesnt_know they took everything that happened in every dragon age game and says there was some mysterious unseen force guiding everything the whole time completely undermining all the writing in previous games.

[@toraaay9830]

10 years. For this. Wow ok. I went into this game with absolutely no spoilers for once and absolutely regret it. Im not buying another bioware game again.

[@bunniewood]

So the inquisitor basically ends up in fade hell with him for eternity? How is that fair? He didn’t even try to hold her hand when they left?!

[@hinkelstein1494]

I think it’s implied that they’re like... I don’t know, gods now? Just chilling in the heavens and watching the world from afar. They turned Lavellan and Solas into Andraste and the Maker, lol. Andrastianism is saved.

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

I didn't like that he didn't take her hand also.

[@thefacts4440]

i find it highly funny that the "bad" ending is actually the one with the most impact and feeling makes you feel like it really was a suicide mission of sorts to face a god.

[@SheppardGSG]

but he never was a god...

[@jackinthebox1993]

Okay, but imagine how based it would have been to help Solas tear down the veil and just destroy the world anyways? Even if it wasn't Cannon 😂

[@msguccidiamonds]

As a standalone, this game isn't bad. Compared to the prior Dragon Age installments, this game isn't good.

[@glowhoo9226]

Like mass effect andromeda in a way.

[@Kira.wolf98]

Yep agree

[@williamei3166]

That's because this game had much more budget and time. The first dragon age was made by an small team compared to this one.

[@travisbickle4360]

​@@glowhoo9226 Andromeda was buggy on release though. This game seen to be polished and very well optimised for PC. It also has no DRM protection

[@msguccidiamonds]

@@travisbickle4360 I'm 10 hours in and have encountered a couple bugs. The makeup set in CC didn't appear in game, I had to do it again via the mirror. Also, the wardrobe in Rook's room removes her hair when trying to change outfit appearances.

[@mako3197]

Imo they spoiled Solas' character and his romance with the Inquisitor by centering his motivations around Mythal. Solas contradicts his DAI characterisation many times in this game (as early as the dialogue about blood magic) and went from remorseful anti-hero to pure villain. And the beauty of his romance with the Inquisitor was the tragedy of yearning for a love so great that it transcended (im)mortality, time and space. After 10 years Mythal steamrolled all of that. The execution made it worse, DAI was much better with its dialogue and body animations/facial gestures. How this part played out made the Inquisitor feel like his afterthought. I hope they take at least one page out of Larian's book and patch the game based on player feedback because surely this can't be how they envisioned it. Yes they can't change the overarching narrative but they can at least make the conclusion more serviceable.

[@SheppardGSG]

"and went from remorseful anti-hero to pure villain" ammm... what? The ending is clear, like the whole game. Solas is a broken elf, entangled in a thousand years of his guilt and grief. An elf, not a god. And when at the end of the game 3 people, whose friendship, love and honesty he values ​​so much, forgive him, ask him to stop - he just breaks. Solas is truly a man who needed to be saved from himself. A god of deception, deceiving himself. This is the best thing in the game. Revealing Solas, his character. He is not a savior and not a villain. He is a broken by an incredible burden of guilt. An elf who convinced himself - he CAN fix everything. But he cant. Noone cant. I don't know how to finish his arc better. Not make him a villain or an incomprehensible hero. But show him for what he is - someone who is cursed with immortality, and therefore an eternity of regret for his mistakes. sorry for my English

[@debishvebishwish4839]

Nah Solas is just a liar

[@labradude]

"DAI was much better with its dialogue and body animations/facial gestures." Revisionist history again lmfao. DA:I looked like hot garbage back then. It looks like hot garbage now.

[@mako3197]

@@SheppardGSG We knew he's been broken since DAI. We knew he was remorseful, the question is more on the WHY. That's why he had a polarising reception, people empathised and understood why he's doing bad things. After the whole reveal about Mythal you're just like "oh, that's it?" because after all this time, it took Mythal who has been around as Flemeth for well over a decade to end it all. It was anticlimactic given the build up from DAI and Trespasser. It turns out his actions weren't from a heartfelt desire for the liberation of slaves or restoration of elven supremacy. Mythal steamrolled his appeal as a multidimensional character, and it turns out he had little autonomy in the first place. Maybe that was their intention for Solas all along, but *personally* that just makes it look like his character writing wasn't as great as I thought it was. The Trespasser exposition felt almost pointless.

[@mako3197]

@@labradude Graphically yes, but I think the animations still hold up fine.

[@GenshinLover283]

Obviously the one with a romanced inquisitor is the best one but there's something extremely cathartic about outsmarting egghead 😌

[@manuelfuica-martineau4940]

Agreed Got tired of his stuff and all the trouble he did.

[@dave3076]

It's a shame that you couldn't support Solas in bringing down the veil.

[@Adanu191]

Not really. Bring down the Veil is the end of the series as we know it and destroys everything. Only a total psychopath chooses that ending.

[@dave3076]

@@Adanu191 Fair enough! Solas seemed pretty motivated to do so.

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@Adanu191 That's kinda the idea for a game series based on player choice. Which is why everyone is so let down, like they were by mass effect.

[@vanyadolly]

Yeah, just let it all burn at this point. If they kill the entire world we won't have to suffer though any more DA games like this.

[@recusantvessel]

@@Adanu191 that's optimal after seeing this garbage bring it all down

[@VGirl]

Do the writers not see how insane it is that Mythal sets Solas free from slavery *while enslaving Morrigan*? Imagine if Cazador in BG3 sets Astarion free out of the goodness of his heart while keeping all of his other thralls and this is portrayed as the heartwarming 'best' ending.

[@nhgfr1]

I mean, I kind of assumed the part where she left morrigans body was permanent. Would’ve been better if they outright stated that, I suppose.

[@VGirl]

Does she, though? I see a puff of green when Mythal manifests but that's no guarantee she won't fuck with Morrigan again

[@graye2799]

But that's not what it is. Mythal never controlled solas. She was just essentially saying he doesn't owe her anything anymore. As for Morrigan, she isn't controlled by mythal. As she says in a conversation with her, it's more so a symbiosis.

[@VGirl]

I find it hard to believe that the Morrigan we know from the first three games would agree to be a vessel of Mythal, even symbiotically. Morrigan grew up *terrified* her mother Flemeth would possess her, and in DAI she learns that Flemeth is Mythal. I can see if Morrigan was enchanted into accepting Mythal because the Inquisitor had her drink from the Well, but the Well choice doesn't matter in Veilguard. She becomes possessed by Mythal no matter what we did in previous games.

[@Enel97]

​@@VGirlwhy do you keep using the word possessed even after the other person explained to you that it is made clear in the game that she isn't possessed? Is it cause you know your whole complaint is shattered because of it? Yes morrigan doesn't wanna get possessed by mythal in the first games.....which is exactly why she isn't possessed. They are in a symbiosis of agreement. After 20 fucking years of watching the world go to shit is it that crazy to think that even morrigan understood that this joining is the best chance for the world?

[@aghighsaadat]

Solas saying "I am a God"...? Bruh.

[@ГригорийГ-ч4н]

Solas says "compared to you i'm a god" in great rage, while beaing wounded, sucked into the Veil and realizing that all his plans crumbled down. Its rage talking.

[@tyramir1119]

Well, Solas is Wisdom, but at his most corrupted, that gives way to Pride. The narrative outright tells you this. So, yeah, he's gonna spout some arrogant shit at his worst.

[@iceiceice914]

That's rage talking, and you beat him by force.

[@spark-to-a-flame8227]

10 years of waiting for solavellan reunion only to see her crawling once again to no avail. Thanks Mythal, he would dump her second time if not for you, thanks, appreciate it. Why the hell they diminish her influence on him so much that it took FOUR women to persuade him in the end? She alone supposed to be his HEART. I just cannot express my disappointment, they killed my love for the whole damn series. 60 hours in the game and I got tired, it is a good thing I spoilered the outcomes. Couldn't bear it anymore.

[@ЕгорЯковенко-е3з]

I wish all this crap would be just a Varick's nightmare after big drunk.

[@acsummer565]

The romanced solas ending is so cringey , what is that awkward emotionless kiss😨, I would rather have my romanced inquisitor solo him, and see if he could actually kill her for stopping him.

[@MKDAWUSS]

Witch Hunt that ain't.

[@trustnoone5821]

Kiss was truly truly stiff and disappointing.. like are you telling me I've been waiting years for that?

[@GoofBonJovi]

3:15 "Vhenan.." Hits right in the feels. Incredible delivery by Gareth David-Lloyd. Great Actor.

[@chrisotto4545]

Cool! Thank you for saving me $79.99.

[@HWC91]

Lol that "secret ending." Did they think they'll get another budget to make another game after gaslighting anyone that disagrees with them.

[@Arlathos]

Seriously, this game is a slap to the face but we knew that with the way they treated the creative team and forced everyone out

[@markoosh]

DLC not another game.

[@HWC91]

@@markoosh Does it matter? The "DLC" most likely not even get released at the current rate of sales and player count

[@MKDAWUSS]

Yeah, they were not in a position to be popping in cliffhanger teasers out of nowhere.

[@vanyadolly]

I can't imagine even the people making excuses for the writing in this game are gonna let that one slide.

[@BlackXief]

Varic died, the franchise went with him, it will definitely be the last game

[@Kira.wolf98]

@@BlackXief Yes I think the same, with his death the franchise is closed and so with the disappear of many other old characters we won't see anymore. For me DA ends here

[@LadybirdEm]

Shoulda stayed viscount of Kirkwall 💀

[@jamie_u]

@@BlackXief does Varric in every outcome?

[@SoulessStranger]

@@LadybirdEm he kinda couldn't considering Kirkwall has been evacuated and overrun by the cartoon Darkspawn.

[@dwrdwlsn5]

@@BlackXief well, all the people who demanded it fail because it dared to be different in any way got what they wanted. Something to hate. Hooray! And **** everyone who wanted something to enjoy because we do not matter.

[@artorius4809]

Did they just forget solas can just blink to petrify people ?

[@stevenmaswabi-zz9kt]

@@artorius4809 that would end the plot very quickly

[@imshail]

Do you people lack the ability to use your brain or was it just replaced by dirty rags at birth, you can see him use that at 18:26 when they fail to catch him by surprise.

[@SheppardGSG]

he fought the archdemon in the final and was exhausted. And btw - he NEVER want to kill us

[@MierePC]

​@@imshailJust say it is poor writing, in DAI Trespasser he stop a whole ahh army of Quan, with their spears and arrows.

[@imshail]

@@MierePC yes and this is after he spent the entire endgame fighting Lusacan, this game has issues but at least know how to actually provide feedback instead of latching on to anything with no ability to actually provide accurate criticism

[@FragLord]

1) No tactical party gameplay 2) no story decisions from other games, the ones that made this franchise... 3) No actual story decisions and dilemma's in this game... In any dragon age there were options where i would just think for hours and regret a choice through an entire gameplay... WTH is there left after this? When I read some of the reviews, some of them have kind of pointless positive remarks. Oh the game is "beautiful", oh ok... Not only do I disagree, I think the majority of players don't give a damn about it... There is a plethora of games out there with minimalistic graphics and great gameplay... Heck one of the most played mmorpg's is effing runescape... Apparently you also give a game a good review if you have high FPS and when a new game isn't a total bug riddled mess... I thought those things were the absolute basics, but ok... This is not dragon age... Yes they tried something new bla bla bla. Never change a winning team is what I always say... When I buy FIFA, i buy FIFA and not PES... We all loved dragon age for 1) it's complex party play 2) dark gritty story and tone 3) a lore filled world where some stories were answered and new mysteries were created. Some of the biggest topics of other games were not even mentioned... Red Lyrium anyone? Did the name Andraste come up in this game at all? WTH happened literally and figuratively with the QUN? Talking darkspawn? If the Elven Gods can just create darkspawn, not to mention all the darkspawn are the same. No more shriekers, genlock, hurlock and oggres. There are just 2 types now. The Hurlocks and the oggres... Who then creates or created the broodmothers? The darkspawn couldn't have possessed the knowledge to create them themselves. So the broodmothers and/or the genetical instinct to create them has to be created. Then why the hell wouldn't you spawn broodmothers instead? What new mystery did we get in this one? We have questions, but that's only thanks to their blunt decisions... The only question i really have is, are the blights really over? Not to mention that they say in the game that this blight was the worst blight of all! Yet it lasted what, a week or two?... I remember the previous blights being much more destructive to be called the "blightiest of blights"... The game ends with the last blight. So they give us one clear answer. Yes the archdemons were the "Elven Gods"... And with the last 2 Elven Gods gone, no more blights. And thus literally ends the dragon age... This can't be a reboot, a reboot would bring us back in the same kind of position as DAI...

[@KlokLogic]

This was just horribly made...

[@indie_licious]

I literally couldn't agree more, this comment summarises all my thoughts perfectly. Like, we have 3 mages in the team. The past games would've made a big deal out if it, about how mages are super dangerous. Especially Necromancy. It's so sad that none of Thedas' interesting sociopolitical struggles have been mentioned in Veilguard. They made you really think in previous games. Veilguard feels hollow. A pretty fantasy world with, yes violence but no character. Not all bad of course, but just not Dragon Age. BG3 was closer to DAO than this.

[@CPTcast]

"It's the final boss and he's this big godlike being, how should we finish the game?" "Physically overpower his 9 foot tall ass with a knife, then cut his throat without breaking a sweat and make a grumpy face at him." Truly this generation's greatest of stories.

[@albusdumbledore7727]

Fr fight against Corypheus was better than this.

[@Dedhaven]

This Director of this game made The Sims... I'm not surprised HE doesn't know how to create compelling action and stories.

[@vanyadolly]

Don't underestimate the punching power of an elf, apparently.

[@klemen680]

@@vanyadollyI mean I’m pretty sure I’ve used a basic hammer to dome dragons in every DA game so far, not like that’s a new thing

[@SheppardGSG]

How does ahero of Ferelden (mage) kill an archdemon? Poke him with his mage stick for a long time, and then in a cutscene cut him down with a two-handed sword (again, he's a mage)

[@peasantofpersia]

Wait the "bad ending" is the best ending wtf. "Bad ending" being the most based thing i ever saw.

[@mostofasadat8880]

Fr man I would choose the bad ending every time

[@opronwin-fa8959]

Idd everything else was far too disney...

[@markoosh]

Also how would the bad ending work for DLCs if Rook is dead? Or will they spare the world a continuation of this garbage? 😂

[@mostofasadat8880]

@@markoosh there is going to be no DLCs. I think it is announced somewhere

[@vanyadolly]

The moment I heard you could kill off most of your companions, I was all for it.

[@alevairia3509]

All these endings 😢😢😢 Wow. They did solas dirty. As much as they did the story. Smh 😢

[@duerf5826]

People fail to understand that Origins was a lightning in a bottle. The fact that they made 3 games after Origins and still couldn't recapture the magic is proof that we will never have "Origins 2".

[@MMORPGFreaky]

These endings dont make any fucking sense, Solas just doenst use his petrifying power so your companions and rook just lives and can beat him up`? He doesnt fucking see the dagger AS AN ELVEN GOD OF TRICKERY he doesnt see the BIG FUCKING DAGGER ? WHY DOESNT HE PETRIFY ROOK ITS UNREAL

[@SheppardGSG]

> Solas just doenst use his petrifying power are u blind?

[@MMORPGFreaky]

@@SheppardGSG He only does it in the worst ending what do you mean? why are you people so dishonest? look at the normal ending, he literally does the exact same thing but just pushes them away

[@amanitasporling6658]

God... "I am a god." Something so out of Solas. They destroyed him.

[@rubydover1187]

idk if I'm alone in this....but i thought there is a horrible ooc behavior but i do love the trespasser theme music. it made me cry

[@bunniewood]

Omg dude the lost elf theme that played there made me ball my eyes out!! A nod to DA:I touched me

[@stardusst]

this felt like a shitty solavellan fanfic. if you romanced literally anyone else in inquisition you get a sad little line about it. even worse, morrigan or isabella just don't acknowledge it at all if you romanced them. what a spit on the face.

[@krisherrera9834]

bad end best ending, now we wont see them in the next one, if theres ever going to be a next one

[@Kira.wolf98]

I hope it won't. A lot of important characters are gone. I see no reason to keep it up with a new DA.

[@MKDAWUSS]

You probably won't see Rook in the next one period.

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

IF there will be a next one it will be a reboot pretty much I bet. And by that point it doesnt matter because the writers are talentless hacks

[@maxwortel8986]

Was hoping to see thedas without the veil A fresh new DnD world In which writers can slowly build up the stakes again Instead dbz constantly increasing the stakes and the power levels

[@ramyarkurdpoor3843]

the Final Act should have been Inquisitor fighting solace defeating him once and for all

[@alinakirill]

YES!!!!! Where is the option where my Inquisitor can kill this big-eared bastard? I hated him for his betrayal in the Inquisition, and my Inquisitor swore revenge on him. Where is the Inquisitor's revenge?!

[@ramyarkurdpoor3843]

​@@alinakirill Dragon Age Inquisition is the best game that I have ever played it got me through some dark times of my life Story of a man who was falsely accused for the crimes that he hadn't commits a prisoner who became a leader a leader who became an Inquisitor an Inquisitor who drinked from The Well of Sorrows and went physically into the fade to come back alive a myth a walking Legend worthy of godhood in the realm of men bro ... just imagine what this game could have been The Clash of myths ... The herald of Adrastea vs The Dread wolf. truly makes me sad that we never get to play the game that we deeply wish Veilguard was

[@dakotalange2858]

Ya so morrigan didn’t drink from the well my lavellan inquisitor did so I call bs on this

[@KitsCloud]

The well has nothing to do with anything that happens in Veilguard.

[@Drakekhan]

So you mean to tell me that after I saved fereldan with mages dwarves golems and elves against a dragon with my woman Morrigan then had a son that didn’t matter Then I traveled to Kirkwall saved it from qunari and assassins and stopped a mad whatever corephues was and started a mage rebellion with Isabella by my side that didn’t matter Then I travelled all the way to thedas again saved the Templars and grey wardens and stopped the darkspawn and battled venetori demons and red mages and closed a breach in the veil that didn’t matter Because it was all ocastrated by some behind the scenes evil council who have been waiting since I saved the world twice………..YOU MUTHAF$&&$& (beep) (beep) (beep) (beep) WITH A GOD(beep) (beep) (beep) UP A MUTHA(beep) (beep) SAVE IT YOURSELF

[@thatonechic013]

Man, its like Mass Effect 3 deja vu all over again. Where none of our choices matter and you question what is real and what isnt. I knew when they lost most of the development team for this game it was gonna be rough but i figured the team who stepped in would have at least researched the previous games. This is so heartbreaking. Glad i didnt purchase. Bioware used to be known as masters of storytelling and now its like they are purposefully trying to destroy it all. Super depressing 😞

[@alexandrsultanov6635]

@@thatonechic013 to me it felt more like andromeda same empty world with meaningless quests and revisiting old places for progression between planets same empty characters where backstory feels like it does no impact on character. Character development feels hollow as well, royalty quests end too lightly. Hated harding most. Like "remember what you are!!!" And thats enough. Felt like they wanted to mix andromeda da2 and mass effect 1 and did worse than all of them. Atleast i didn't refund Andromeda. Was similarly bad but it not that bad...

[@thatonechic013]

@alexandrsultanov6635 ah forgive me, I only meant it was like me3 in it's ending, the way that it made all our previous choices and the world we made pointless. Me3 was a masterpiece until the last 20 mins of the game. I agree with you it matches up to Andromeda with its poor story telling, surface level characters and weak dialogue (although andromeda has the worst dialogue of any game I have ever played and I will die on this hill)

[@KazioWihura-t6s]

how dos our choices not matter ? they matter. people are either alive or dead because of the choices. genophage is either cured or not. there is peace between the geth and the quarians or there isn't. we made a difference.

[@KlokLogic]

I'm probably the only person here who sees Inquisition as a masterpiece. Go back and you'll realize although it's not Origins it's at the top but this Veilguard is horrific.

[@vanyadolly]

DAI is the weakest story in the series. It has a main villain who was amazing in DA2 and falls flat on his face in DAI, and the ending is in a DLC

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

DAI was the first with ugly characters and overly woke writing. No thanks

[@Crazieyboy15]

My friend….Dragon Age Orgins was mature and a real dark fantasy. Inquisition gets a lot of undeserved hate if you ask me, but its got absolutely nothing on Origins.

[@johnnybravo4727]

@@vanyadolly the dlc in dai carries the game a lot it's amazing but veilguard is just crap.

[@johnpantag472]

@@Jack_the_Rizzler69 coparing inquisition and veilguard is insane. origins is mid btw

[@wackywarrior001]

I’m shocked how bad all the outfits are from color scheme to design . Like truly awful

[@niora973]

"There is an ending for everyone." I could kill Anders but not Solas where is my ending?

[@masha22092000r]

The romanced!Solas ending was so bad it hurts. There are literally hundreds of fanfics better than this. I nearly died of cringe. The rest of the endings... Wow, what a total waste. People in charge of this game really hate the franchise, huh?

[@SheppardGSG]

> The romanced!Solas ending was so bad why?

[@infernity1989]

SkillUp said the final 2 hours are great. This doesn't look great at all

[@gothicfan52]

As a stand-alone this seemed serviceable to me. As a DA continuation? Horrible.

[@vanyadolly]

This is worse than sitting through the unbearable writing in the rest of the game. Or maybe he meant the ending where everyone dies That would feel cathartic.

[@SheppardGSG]

​@@vanyadolly what is so bad about endings?

[@pppgggr]

"You were never ready to make the sacrifices that leadership requires." NO! NO! THAT IS NOT SOLAS' FLAW! THAT SHOULD NOT BE HIS DOWNFALL! I hate this. The writers didnt understand the character, and now they've ruined him forever.

[@vanyadolly]

He's basically encouraging the inquisitor to be a benevolent dictator all through DAI.

[@politecat9207]

I mean, if you consider that Rook meant sacrificing oneself, they're right. Solas only ever sacrificed others for his gain and the "greater good", never himself.

[@vanyadolly]

@@politecat9207 Very good point!

[@Mick_Unfiltered]

God, after seeing these endings, currently playing through act one… I deleted the game… terrible writing, plot holes… Solas never wanted to be called a god, I don’t even feel like my rook matters as a character, the highlight so far was meeting my old inquisitor who immediately felt more like my own character. I am just astounded, this game reads like a tumblr fan fic.

[@mikaylasmith7600]

@@Mick_Unfiltered I hope you got a refund my guy.

[@JacobSauers]

You don’t meet the inquisitor until about midway through the game

[@SheppardGSG]

> Solas never wanted to be called a god soo choose another ending?

[@Slyphantom]

​​@@SheppardGSG or, and just hear me out, write the character correctly based on characterization already presented so that stupid out of character crap like that doesn't make it's way into the game. Solas, the man who hated the gods for calling themselves gods and led a revolt against them and imprisoned them would never call himself a god. No matter the situation. He made that pretty clear in inquisition.

[@SheppardGSG]

@@Slyphantom I also saw this moment only in the ending. In my game and ending he doesn't say this. And also during the game he says that he is not a god. Apparently he went completely crazy from this defeat. In general, all these endings, except for the best one (where he voluntarily agrees to keep the veil) are pretty stupid. With what joy will Solas kill himself?

[@misami213]

I hate a lot of things in the game but his line on 15:00 " Im a fool, who finally met his match" somehow was good, touching the right spot.

[@GenshinLover283]

As the old saying goes "Pride comes before the fall".

[@Deashh]

Goodbye Dragon Age series.. May you rest in peace now...

[@Pesztike66]

3:43 - There are no words to describe the hatred this created in my heart...

[@Iluvantir]

That secret ending: now they are not happy with giving us a crap "end" to the Dreadwolf saga, with half-assed, botched, lazy, untalented storytelling... they also want to change the prior stories, even back to the first game? Logain had GOOD reason (in his mind) for what he did. Whispers and guidance from shadowy forces? Oh, I am so glad I haven't paid Bioware for this travesty. No need, now that I've seen enough of their crap on YT.

[@uhobme2028]

Probably the most the series has gotten to a bad ending since Darkspawn Chronicles

[@Dominicgetdown]

These endings are terrible. They kill any choices you make in the first three games and just decide the canon they want. I'm not playing any more dragon age. I'll just replay the original three and leave the rest of dragon age as bad fan fiction. The canon for me will end with solas betraying the inquisitor and there is never a true resolution to the story.

[@KitsCloud]

Can I ask what choices they retcon? I can't think of any.

[@Dedhaven]

Ah yes, the Elven God that can turn people to stone with a flash of the eyes gets bested by Disney characters... wtf is the writing man.

[@SheppardGSG]

he NEVER was a God

[@Crazieyboy15]

@@SheppardGSGIf I could turn people to stone with a gesture, I’d start to get the feeling I was pretty godlike.

[@DJinKERRY831]

@@SheppardGSG Turning ppl into stone statues just by blinking sounds pritty godlike to me.

[@MsIvalane]

@@SheppardGSG he never *saw himself as a god*, that doesn't mean he didn't have god-like powers

[@DanimateXX]

Solas: We are not gods. Also Solas: I. AM. A GOD!!! 🤦🤦‍♂🤦‍♀ Utter garbage.

[@AgentofChaos315]

Why are people whining there's no option to let Solas end the world? Did you all want an ending in Origins where you let the Archdemon win? An option to let Corypheus become a god and take over the world?

[@soulnomad5231]

I mean we did get the Darkspawn Chronicles that was pretty metal.

[@MsIvalane]

if they were going to soft reboot the franchise anyway (with Ferelden, Orzammar, Orlais and a good chunk of the Free Marches dead of uber-Blight) then yeah, I wish they'd torn down the Veil and give us an entirely new starting point.

[@AgentofChaos315]

@@MsIvalane They were hit hard but they weren't wiped out

[@MsIvalane]

@@AgentofChaos315 Okay, so in Ferelden, the lone bastion of life holding out is Redcliff, and they're reported as totally overrun, leaving the remaining survivors of Ferelden leaderless and starving. The remnant survivors of Kirkwall escaped to Starkhaven, which is near the north of the Marches territories; I feel like it's a little silly to suppose that *only* Kirkwall suffered such a ruinous incursion, so Ostwick and Markham are also possibly gone, and if the 'spawn chased the Kirkwall survivors that also puts Wildervale in the crosshairs. We get word Orzammar's gone dark, so they're likely dead. Orlais has been thrown entirely into chaos, so while they're not dead they certainly won't remain a cultural and economic hub like they have been the entire franchise. So yes, technically you're right, they haven't been 'nuked'. But they might as well have been, considering is Blight that overran everything, and the Blight's fallout is worse than a nuke. I'm not trying to be pedantic here, but the writing choices the dev team made are mean-spirited at best; if they wanted to not have to worry about the previous games this hard, they should have reset the entire setting.

[@katsunokiyoko26]

How does Bioware manage to have this big of a budget to make a cast of lifeless and emotionless characters. What a damn pity

[@Sihion]

Such a disappointment

[@judahfalls7704]

So rather hilariously, to get the most emotionally impactful ending to the game, you should just carry over the 3 choices the game wanted you to make, and make a few right choices in this game. Meaning that Bioware's cannon is basically that the inquisitor was a female elf that romanced solas and never gave up on him.

[@pearsemolloy9656]

So is there no way to talk Solas down with an Inquisitor who was just friends with him? If so that is very disappointing because I found Solas’s friendship with a non elven Inquisitor more compelling as it showed how much he’d grown over the course of the game from seeing them as not really people to respecting one immensely.

[@judahfalls7704]

@@pearsemolloy9656 I don't know haven't tried that yet.

[@corvohan6965]

@@pearsemolloy9656 You can, the only variable is whether you do the dreadwolf quest. But Solas will go alone if inquisitor is not romanced.

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@corvohan6965 awww, well that's annoying. I would've loved it if my big qunari bastard of a mage went to go fighting demons with him. Would've loved it more if your final cutscene was decided by your choices in your last games

[@vanyadolly]

Solas -- the most restrictive romance in the history of the series. How much you worship at the altar of Solas is the only thing that matters.

[@diargoa7942]

Huh, there is a redemption ending for him, after all. And the Inquisitor romance is the best Oh, and that Trespasser theme reprise tho 👌

[@SquishyEggo]

I heard it too. It was great.

[@vanyadolly]

Well I'm glad the Solas romancers are happy, seeing as they've sacrificed everything else to make solavellas happen

[@SquishyEggo]

@@vanyadolly You're absolutely right. I'm just okay about it because I know that Dragon Age had more potential than what Veilguard contains.

[@erikwilliams1562]

Bad ending? Every one of them dying could be called the best ending!

[@Muxxyy]

Why on Earth does Vhenan have both hands? Solas took it last time they met in the DLC.... This is some terrible soppy dialogue too.

[@shadowstarz3651]

Think it's a prosthetic.

[@Kadir-fw7xm]

"You are merely mortals and I am... a fool that has met his match." Idc what anyone of you says but THAT ending is my Ending. Varric deserved so much better and Solas fd up the moment he made me believe that he was still alive. If he would have the guts to tell me that he killed him honestly I would be one of the first to forgive him because it was a accident... but this way he manipulated me into doing his bidding and also fcked with my head.

[@threestars2164]

So nothing over the series matters, no matter what choice I make, it's just another telltale game after all!

[@Jeanniieeluvv]

Kieran being non canon cause Morrigan got possessd by flemeth means the warden died in origins.

[@yang6642]

The Warden dying while killing the Archdemon has been BioWare’s default since 2014

[@Jeanniieeluvv]

@yang6642 I'm glad they're chosen Canon events, that means destroy ending is Canon ending for mass 3 too.

[@KitsCloud]

This is not true and you're misunderstanding what happened. Flemeth did not possess her.

[@pitou222]

no because their canon world state has ALWAYS been the HoF makes the ult sacrifice, so keiran was never needed. also it explains how mythal came into morrigan and it wasn’t bc of anything related to something that happened in origins? what are u talking abt

[@mgeldarion58]

23:30 Oh, no, the upside down triangle with two waving lines, these are Those Across The Sea, masters of the Executors. So they are villains after all.

[@shadow7179]

oh so these are like the Qunari backers right?

[@mgeldarion58]

@@shadow7179 doubtful, they are mentioned only once in DAI, in the letters from the Executors if the Inquisitor and Leliana decide to investigate their activities. They are not mentioned in DAO or DA2, so them standing behind Loghain's betrayal and Bartrand's madness is very strange retcon. The Executors are like the Illuminati or Mason conspiracies of Thedas, so Those Across the Sea would be like reptiloids from Nibiru.

[@captmoroni]

The “Veil falls, the Dragon Age ends, the Dreamer Age begins” leak was wrong.

[@patricksoares9670]

I just cant see how Solas getting love is the best ending. There's no much difference from Solas and the other Gods when it comes to their crimes. For me, the best ending ia the good ending.

[@totomen666]

ME3 ending all over again, f. LMAO .... in wild nightmares i didn't thought this series gonna go out like THIS.

[@edsol6429]

same 😭

[@GenshinLover283]

Nah, ME3's are still worse. At least outsmarting Egghead feels rewarding asf

[@wesgen15]

Why can 80% of the characters look so bad? (I'm not targeting anyone specific). Wonderful, I never have to wait for a sequel to this game again.

[@renatocouto1308]

Why can't I help Solas, I wanted to bring the real Thedas back

[@Linus-d9b]

The fake dagger ending is my favorite 😂

[@The411876543]

So you past choices doesn’t even matter what a garbage game

[@subhankarbaral9236]

Bad ending is true ending of this game. Modern BioWare made Solas a wimp. The old guard would never have done that.

[@TheJadeJester]

Thank you for saving me playing this.

[@motyfokol5392]

i just finished my first playthrough without guides. got the best and secret ending. harding's sacrifice literally broke me. there is no way in 1000 hell where i will ever finish the game with the bad ending.

[@Kleineganz]

I finished as well, and got the best ending but missed out on the secret (I've looked it up and I missed finding one of the three circles). Time for another playthrough!

[@vanyadolly]

I sure am glad we had to lose Morrigan just so Solas could have his happy ending. Poor guy, he was really a victim in all of this. What a satisfying conclusion.

[@jeanpagette5019]

Watching the endings so I don’t have to play the game

[@albusdumbledore7727]

Lol same

[@MKDAWUSS]

I was going to wait for the price drop. I still might, IDK. Spoilers aren't a problem for me. In this case, it actually spared me some things.

[@albusdumbledore7727]

@ spoiler: Solas is bald.

[@erikwilliams1562]

Same

[@npc6254]

“And we will always be grateful to those whose stories brought us here today…” Oh, stfu BioWare. This one line pis*ed me off so much when I finished the game. This game was one giant missed opportunity. I wanted Ohgren, I wanted Zevren, I wanted Fenris, I wanted Bodahn and Sandal, I wanted Cassandra and Iron Bull, I wanted Hawke and my warden teaming up for the final fight with the inquisitor to fight whatever evil lurked within the Black City. After ten years of waiting, I got nothing I wanted. Such a disrespectful condescending line to put in the final cutscene. Kieran and my Mahariel should be standing beside Morrigan at the end.

[@JudgingNug]

I legit thought the whole Inquisition gang would show up in the end...I was disappointed.

[@eduardoenrique7152]

morrigan, the inquisitor, solas, varric.... bioware had one main thing going on and it was the writing, their characters. the best ending just gave me nausea. fing californian politics man, ffs.

[@KTMJ34]

I'm glad I didn't waste 70 bucks on this trash!! The old bioware is gone RIP

[@sbreskin]

Lame and stunted. Played prior DA games, even Inquisition which until Trespasser came out, was atrocious. Wasn't planning to play this. Thank you to author for posting endings video, because that confirmed - Bioware has been dead for years. Good riddance.