this deck is devastating for rare candy decks

[@Lyril]

Big fan of the new intro style! Hopefully it doesn't increase your editing workload too much.

[@sixpokemanstcg]

thanks! it takes quite a bit longer but i figured it would be better than just looking at a deck list the whole intro. i want to get better at editing and i have a decent amount of free time so its worth it, i think

[@theworstbird]

I loved the look of Hydreigon as soon as I saw it, I'm glad to see you trying to find space for it in the meta. I really liked the new intro as well, it was very clean and provided a nice primer for the strategy in the actual games.

[@sixpokemanstcg]

thanks so much. im hoping putting more effort into the intros can make the videos stand out a bit. i think hydreigon's attacks are too good for it to not be meta at some point, especially the second attack. and its just really fun to play

[@DragonKingRyu993]

During the surging sparks set, I for some reason got 4 hydragon, and all were special art, which was so weird, but then I said why not ? And tried a deck but the deck was too inconsistent so this video helps me build my hydragon deck

[@sixpokemanstcg]

awesome, i hope you have some luck with it. i was just playing all the matches really slow to make up for not having the rotom draw. i thought about cutting the toedscruel to add a 4th iono and another consistency card but i thought this was a nice balance of power and consistency cards

[@tonyfata5151]

The editing on the intro is so good! Keep up the great work!

[@sixpokemanstcg]

thanks so much! im glad people seem to like it cause ive been trying to figure out a way to make the intros easier to watch

[@outplayprime7094]

You mentioned that Iron Leaves deck and thats what I've been loving recently. Its so good! I haven't used Hydreigon in a while. It felt like a deck where if they can ohko Hydreigon you're cooked. And the setup takes sooo much. Might as well play Dragapult to have a simpler setup with a similar attack. Great video though. Good to see how it is in this new set's meta.

[@sixpokemanstcg]

ill have to try it again cause i was losing most of the games my opponent set up. getting one shot twice feels pretty bad for the deck lol. thats why i ended up with the toedscruel, to help against raging bolt and ogerpon needs 4 energy to one shot with just a dark and counter gain so i usually try to stick to only have the one energy against ogerpon decks

[@alexvilardo421]

I like the intro! Also I have been a huge fan of hydreigon. This is a solid way to play after rotation. I have been using rotom and lunineon with Forrest seal stone, and a crispin with a psychic and a metal energy to potentially use obsidian on 2 different hydreigons. I think I will keep crispin after rotation, but will definitely try budew and a second PLH stadium because I definitely struggle vs big basic decks

[@sixpokemanstcg]

big basics can be tough for sure, i find the toedscruel and not letting them use fez while ionoing them can make them miss an attack at some point and thats usually enough to win or cripple their board enough to make them miss another attack

[@alexvilardo421]

@ I will try that! I played the toedscruel line in DragaThorns and I liked it a lot

[@DunkinLinTCG]

Thank you for the video and the decklist !

[@sixpokemanstcg]

thanks for the comment! glad you enjoyed it

[@pokerjedi]

I watched that same video about the future box deck and immediately built it. I didn't have any luck with it either and moved on pretty quickly!! LOL

[@bw2020]

I play a ton of Garde and Terapagos on ptcgl, but my wife plays with me irl and she has been using Hydreigon for the last few months. We’ve tried a bunch of different iterations of the deck but one card we quite like to include is Janine’s Secret Art and of course Binding Mochi to go with that.

[@PKS_BLAZE]

Lol nice. Just slapped tf outta this list with control. 😎

[@fmrc93]

Got top 4 in my last cup playing hydreigon, but a different list obviously. But I really like your list so may give this one a try and see how I do with it.

[@kevinguzman100]

love this idea, ever since hydreigon came out i built it since i pulld the isr from a box.. but would love to discuss about the usage of 1 metal, psychic and crispan cause with rotation coming getting neo back would be hard to get again and to utilize the second atk it would be difficult to do without the basic energy. But i do see the potential in it especially with future sets coming and it will be here for awile

[@sixpokemanstcg]

idk what to cut for it but the more i think about it that might be needed. ive just been lucky enough to not prize the neo energy but i think its possible the deck can just fall apart without access to the second attack. all i can think of is cutting dark, stadium and go down to 2 budew or nest balls. but yea it might be needed, prizing neo is only 10 percent so its possible it should almost never happen but it probably lowers the odds to win too much to risk

[@kevinguzman100]

@ yes i thinking a dark, budew and the town store cause yes you do want to find the counter gain but with wanting to play it slow and in a way would allow you to eventually put in xeroics or eri once testing more with ratios, i can eventually see hydrei being an control but win option atk unlike most control decks like snorlax or pidgy control, since hydrei first atk can help with the mil effect though it just 3, it like a pokestop but no targets to get back 😂

[@Andrew71001]

Love this list! Thanks a lot for explaining how matchups should work when we play it, really helpful. Do you think a gravity gemstone or devo could work in this list as well?

[@sixpokemanstcg]

i almost added gemstone but it clashes with the countergain a bit, it does work on budew sometimes tho. but the main thing i wanted to do with it was be able to counter catcher a fez and iono and hit for 200 to set up another 2 prize option for obsidian. the reason i didnt put devo in it is because zard and dragapult are the main two decks it would be needed and they both have tera bench protection so it would only get the pidgeot if they play it. garde leaves their pokemon unevolved so that just comes down to if they play manaphy. i havent played games with either cards but i'd have to play those matchups more to see if theyre a problem, then i would consider adding techs

[@emberpowertcg7692]

Yeah I think trying to build the Hydra like zard just doesn't end well for the simple reason that zard is more consistent, Hydra needs to be more streamlined in order to be successful

[@sixpokemanstcg]

i agree, building every stage 2 like zard just doesnt really work. especially with this deck when you have to find energy and counter gain, so arven cant just grab forest and a way to get pidgeot out

[@emberpowertcg7692]

@@sixpokemanstcg Yeah true, looking forward to this post rotation when theirs no manaphy and hopefully things are a little slower for the deck but one more thing, thanks, the gameplay was insightful with how you win with Budew

[@dronesandbones322]

@@emberpowertcg7692 candy zard players will have to change massively with budew coming into the meta. Zard isnt going to be as consistent as it used to be with the adjustments its going to have to make.

[@benjaminanthonym]

Yeah really like the video. I spent the better half of a day trying to test a Jacq build with four copies of budew. I think replacing the pidgey line for 2 copies of Bidoof could be good to try. If you want to go rotation ready we could try Revaroom or Dundunsparce

[@gerardonavarro3400]

What do you need four Budews for? Giving away four prize cards for free?

[@sixpokemanstcg]

i never tried hydreigon with a bibarel type pokemon. the toedscruel could in theory just be a bibarel line. its hard to judge how helpful the toedscruel is when testing online. its so much easier to judge irl with a friend when they can say if how much its hurting them. idk if revaroom would work just because of the low energy count. i really like jacq with how popular i expect budew to be, makes me wish i didnt sell my irl alt art one for like ten bucks months ago lol

[@sixpokemanstcg]

it slows the game down and going behind in prizes is good for counter gain and catcher. so its like trading a couple of prizes for some time to set up and possibly forcing an opponent to research away some good items and it should mess with their setup a bit and make it harder for them to target down multiple of the evolving basics

[@elijahkagan7853]

I’m trying to make Hydreigon work for me in the new format. I loved it with dusk in Surging Sparks and it got me all the way to Arceus league. I’ve been workshopping it to make it work against the threat of Budew. This looks way more consistent than the Hydreigon Terapagos list I’ve been workshopping

[@programmerkumis]

Wow even to arceus league? Would you mind sharing the decklist? Im struggling with the draw engine 😢

[@elijahkagan7853]

@@programmerkumis Sure thing: 1 Lumineon V BRS 40 3 Hydreigon ex SSP 119 1 Dusclops SFA 19 PH 4 Deino SSP 117 1 Zweilous SSP 118 PH 1 Pecharunt ex SFA 39 2 Pidgeot ex OBF 164 2 Pidgey OBF 162 1 Dusknoir SFA 20 2 Duskull SFA 18 1 Fezandipiti ex SFA 38 1 Rotom V LOR 58 Trainer: 17 3 Ultra Ball SVI 196 4 Rare Candy SVI 191 1 Dark Patch ASR 139 2 Counter Gain SSP 169 1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 1 Briar SCR 132 4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 1 Lost Vacuum LOR 162 2 Counter Catcher PAR 160 2 Iono PAL 185 1 Janine's Secret Art SFA 59 1 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 257 1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156 3 Nest Ball SVI 181 1 Tera Orb SSP 189 4 Arven SVI 166 1 Boss's Orders PAL 172 Energy: 2 6 Basic {D} Energy Energy 15 1 Neo Upper Energy TEF 162

[@elijahkagan7853]

Keep in mind this was BEFORE Prismatic. This was for the Surging Sparks format

[@sixpokemanstcg]

ive been liking the deck as straight forward as possible. i thought about putting a jacq and lumineon in the deck but just ended up with the high budew count hoping that item lock could mess with the opponent and make them miss item lock at some point. the 3 budew can help to start it then any poffins turn one can be spent to get the evolving basics

[@sixpokemanstcg]

the deck really relies on pidgeot and fez quite a bit. i found that as long as i get a hydreigon attacking i can get into a pidgeot at some point. the second attack is so strong it can make it hard for the opponent to go around the hydreigon if you have it fully built up or just need the neo to start using obsidian

[@DerkDoesCrime]

I’ve also had a lot of success with lzb Hydreigon recently with drago on the down low

[@DerkDoesCrime]

Is there no space for Janine? I find the possibility of accelerating 2 dark energy in a tune then hand attach to be very powerful

[@sixpokemanstcg]

janine could definitely be good. ive been thinking about trying a version that can rely on supporters more to make playing around item lock easier. ive never tried the lzb hydreigon either, ive been mean to try that and lost zone dragapult for a bit. i guess at this point lzb probably isnt a good way to play dragapult anyway

[@LianleoC]

Nice intro, but why are the gen 5 hydreigon spites rotating and not playing?

[@sixpokemanstcg]

lol i dont have the pro version of my editing software

[@pattysod]

Nice Decklist, might try it. I am in the procecss of building a Hydreigon Deck in real life rn and already try to think a bit about rotation. What would you possibly replace the dark patch with (if you already eye some cards)?

[@sixpokemanstcg]

janine would make sense, might need super rod over stretcher with janine but im not sure about that. there's also a very slight chance the game slows down enough after rotation that we can rely more on attachments. i dont think the patch is the most important card either, its more for pecharunt and to build an obsidian in one turn but normally theres enough time to just attach as long as you can get into energy every turn

[@JadaaFresh]

Dam man your plays are so good keep it up. You should go to a regionals

[@sixpokemanstcg]

thanks, i appreciate that. hopefully next season i can afford to get to few and maybe atlanta this year if enough of my friends go and we drive down

[@djghl]

Why are you using Rescue Board? Could be switched for a Hisuian Heavy Ball in case you prize the Pecharunt ex and the opponent tries to lock something in the active.

[@enamorus1]

To guarantee being able to budew turn one and attach an energy to something else?

[@djghl]

@@enamorus1 That makes sense, but you would need to 1. Go second (not guaranteed) 2. Have it not prized 3. Have a Arven or it in your hand 4. Actually need using it Looks like too much conditions for something so simple. Feels like a leftover from the Town Store list.

[@sixpokemanstcg]

yea it could be, its nice to have arven guarantee budew. there's not enough energy to depend on opening one and the times there is an energy its nice to get an attachment down. it would suck to prize pech against a deck that can retreat lock but its like the odds of hitting one of those decks times the 10 percent chance to prize a one of so it shouldnt be too likely. prizing fez does suck tho

[@djghl]

@@sixpokemanstcg I've been really liking this list and I'm planning to play it IRL. So far, the hardest part has been not being able to draw cards without depending on Fez + Budew dying. Getting Budew'd is awful as well, so it would be nice to think about a way of countering it.

[@confettacini]

i never did well with a stage 2 deck but i'll give this a try again!!!

[@sixpokemanstcg]

it is quite different because stage 2's cant be as aggressive and your almost always going to fall behind. so finding a way to use the attacks to make up for the lost turns is important. also knowing when to stop benching low hp pokemon and forcing the opponent to go through the stage 2 is important too

[@NagumoMiyabiOptimusMaximus]

came back to pokemon tcg after 10 years. game really has changed a lot ☠️

[@chickpeabunny9435]

Same, I played up until 2019 and coming back 6 years later has been rough. The scalping and damage inflation goes crazy.

[@NagumoMiyabiOptimusMaximus]

@chickpeabunny9435 scalping?

[@sixpokemanstcg]

yea, quite a bit. that would be like seismitoad, darkrai, night march format? one shots are definitely a lot more common now. having to 2 or 3 shot everything is probably the thing i miss the most about older formats. the person talking about scalping just means how people are buying up all the irl product of new sets and selling it for crazy amounts

[@NagumoMiyabiOptimusMaximus]

@sixpokemanstcg ohh i get it but i assumed some of the new non-full art or non-alternate (dont really know the term) ex or v/v-star were cheap so those who wanted to play wouldn't be affected by price that much and yeah i used night march when i was playing back then

[@GemuMat116]

How does Hydreigon beat Lugia and Archaludon? Both are huge meta threats and Hydreigon gets steamrolled by both.

[@sixpokemanstcg]

archaludon isnt the best unless they dont evolve their basics to get ready for a dialga play and obsidian can take them all out. i think if lugia doesnt play wydeer its pretty winnable. drago has bad matchups into those two decks and does pretty well. idt people really like playing lugia and with like 15 valid decks, every deck has some bad matchups

[@Kewaaaaa]

I play hydreigon and I constantly lose to pult players 😅

[@fleurseva]

Don't ever let them hit your Deino. Prioritize Hydreigon, and focus on getting the obsidian as early as possible. Hit Drakloaks and maybe Duskull to shut them down.

[@sixpokemanstcg]

always feels bad losing to pult. but exactly what @fleurseva said, if you can attack with an obsidian before they evolve you should almost always win. can also force them to evolve their drakloaks and ko any that they dont to make iono more effective late game. if they start playing heavier stretcher counts the toedscruel could be good but it looks like theyre playing 1 now so its probably not worth it. also dusknoir is the only way they can one shot you so focusing that down with obsidian can be worth it sometimes. they also usually play 2 candy and if they ever use 2 dusknoirs all you need to do is use obsidian to hit the ex for 130 and ko two drakloak then ko the dragapult with the first attack. it can be hard if our item lock doesnt do enough and they get into their lances but i think its winnable

[@dronesandbones322]

This list feels like a worse version of pult. Unless you just smash your opening hand you might as well just concede vs pult.