This Differential Equation is Nuts

  Рет қаралды 15,024

Flammable Maths

Ай бұрын

Check out Brilliant and get a 30 day free trial + 20% off their annual premium subscription! =D brilliant.org/FlammableMaths
Support my channel and become a Patron! Please help keep the videos going!!! =) www.patreon.com/mathable
Subscribe to @NPCooking69 for some tight ingredient bamboozeling! :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4TXc2unaJ6kbck
My Merch! =D papaflammy.myteespring.co/
Can you solve this seemingly simple differential equation yy'=y''? Give it a shot! Enjoy! =D
Help me create more free content! =)
www.patreon.com/mathable
Merch :v - papaflammy.myteespring.co/
www.amazon.com/shop/flammablemaths
shop.spreadshirt.de/papaflammy
Twitter: FlammableMaths
Instagram: uncomfortably_cursed_mathmemes

Пікірлер: 82
@AlBoulley
@AlBoulley 29 күн бұрын
"Life is like differentials and integration… you never know what the fuck you are going to get" -Flammy Gump
@zunaidparker
@zunaidparker 29 күн бұрын
I think you're missing the cases where c=0 or c
@liamschreibman8268
@liamschreibman8268 29 күн бұрын
Hi, I'm a high school further maths student in London. I just want to say that I love your videos! Lots of people appreciate your work, myself included.
@symphonyofsolidarity
@symphonyofsolidarity 28 күн бұрын
GCSE advanced or the one before that? I mean o or a levels?
@liamschreibman8268
@liamschreibman8268 26 күн бұрын
A level​@symphonyofsolidarity
@symphonyofsolidarity
@symphonyofsolidarity 25 күн бұрын
@@liamschreibman8268 nice! I'm from igcse o levels :)
@ralfbodemann1542
@ralfbodemann1542 29 күн бұрын
Great. _You presented the solution for C > 0. But you also need to consider the cases C=0 und C< 0. BTW: I noticed LHS = d/dx(y^2/2) and RHS = d/dx(y'). If you tranformed the original equation that way, you could have immediately performed the first integration.
@elibrahimi1169
@elibrahimi1169 28 күн бұрын
@@ralfbodemann1542 see that's what i am talking about, he probably just wanted to show another method
@romanvolotov
@romanvolotov 29 күн бұрын
my immediate thought was to recognise the original LHS as (½y²)'. then it's quite similar to the video. this thing often pops up in physics from what i can tell. thanks for the video
@brashmane2749
@brashmane2749 19 күн бұрын
And it was very popular with several of my examinators... Especially with C belonging somewhere on Z...
@dank.
@dank. 29 күн бұрын
This differential equation reminded me a lot of your video on exactly solving for the period of an undamped pendulum. Mostly the start of that approach in recognizing the forms of derivatives, at least how I approached the problem (haven't watched the video yet). We can start by recognizing that the lhs looks pretty chain rule-y. We can express it as the derivative of (y^2)/2. The rhs is also just the derivative of y, so we can integrate both sides to get rid of the derivatives. This leaves us with (y^2)/2 = y'. We can move all the factors of y to one side. Doing this gives us (y')/(y^2) = 1/2. The lhs once again looks chain rule-y, and we can see that it can be rewritten as the derivative of -1/y. Making that substitution, we can once again integrate both sides to get -1/y = x/2 + c. Rearranging we get the final answer of y=(-2)/(x+c) Fun diffie-q!
@charlesspringer4709
@charlesspringer4709 29 күн бұрын
Nice. Presentation tip: Never use the word "what" unless you are asking a question. Eliminate "what we are going to do is we are going to" and "what we are going to do" and "we are going to". Also good to eliminate their friends "What you wanna do now is you wanna", etc. It takes some practice. I did it while teaching, so anybody can. "The last thing we are going to do now is we are going to..." ==> "Now..."
@Ordnas95
@Ordnas95 29 күн бұрын
Thank you Charles
@zillibran
@zillibran 22 күн бұрын
he said "waa" or "wa" has in y, IDIOT
@zillibran
@zillibran 22 күн бұрын
​​@@Ordnas95 he said "waa" or "wai" has in y
@zillibran
@zillibran 22 күн бұрын
he said "waa" or "wa" has in y
@elibrahimi1169
@elibrahimi1169 29 күн бұрын
6:13 couldn't we just integrate both sides from the very beginning and get the same result ?
@jameslawson9754
@jameslawson9754 29 күн бұрын
we dont know what the integral of y’ or y’’ with respect to y is
@elibrahimi1169
@elibrahimi1169 29 күн бұрын
@@jameslawson9754 the i integral of yy' is 1/2 * y² and that of y" is y', and add a constant
@lucasredondo4234
@lucasredondo4234 28 күн бұрын
@@elibrahimi1169the integral of y dy is y^2/2 , not the integral of y dy/dx , dy/dx being y’
@elibrahimi1169
@elibrahimi1169 28 күн бұрын
@@lucasredondo4234 if you differentiate 1/2* y² you get yy' by the chain rule and the power rule, by that logic the antiderivative of yy' is 1/2 y² + C
@elibrahimi1169
@elibrahimi1169 28 күн бұрын
@@lucasredondo4234 alright let's go with your logic ; the integral has a built in dx in it so the integral of int y dy/dx dx=int y dy =1/2 y² + C
@hornkneeeee
@hornkneeeee 29 күн бұрын
i saw that y=0 holds for this equation then realised any constant would work, Proof by observation as the experts call it
@tangsolaris9533
@tangsolaris9533 23 күн бұрын
Trivial
@nonamehere9658
@nonamehere9658 29 күн бұрын
At ~4:00 You've concluded something of the sorts: if A(x)*B(x)=0 for all x, then either A(x)=0 for all x or B(x)=0 for all x, which isn't necessarily true -- e.g. suppose a counterxample A(x) = [x==1], B(x) = [x=/=1] (this specific example isn't continuous, but there are other continuous A(x),B(x)) I didn't follow very closely derivation for tan, but intuition tells me that y(x) can be a piecewise combination of constant function (on some subset of reals) + the tan from the second parth of the video on the other subset of the reals. Maybe can be even combined such that y(x) is smooth and y'(x) is also smooth.
@PixelSergey
@PixelSergey 25 күн бұрын
I was wondering this as well! That step should not necessarily hold. I wonder how you would fix this step in the solution 😄
@constantinzimmer1747
@constantinzimmer1747 29 күн бұрын
also y =-2/(x+k) for c = 0 right?
@dank.
@dank. 29 күн бұрын
For c=0 you get the y=0 case, but for values of c very close to 0, yes.
@DangiMiner
@DangiMiner 29 күн бұрын
​@@dank.Actually he's right. In case c=0 you get this solution, not y=0.
@garnetg987
@garnetg987 29 күн бұрын
That opening meme about the 347% error made me burst out in laughter. Great video.
@senco445
@senco445 24 күн бұрын
Fabulous! This was highly entertaining!
@cribless810
@cribless810 Ай бұрын
Man youre getting spammed with "please solve jee questions now" so sad
@tmrapper6378
@tmrapper6378 25 күн бұрын
He'll benefit from that
@TrailersReheard
@TrailersReheard 29 күн бұрын
THIS IS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT WAHOO
@ImLucky6
@ImLucky6 19 күн бұрын
i would probably start by converting these into mcclaurn series, and then just pray from there
@falquicao8331
@falquicao8331 23 күн бұрын
There are two missing solutions for c=0, y = -2/(x+r) And c
@rastakov1899
@rastakov1899 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for your video.
@stevenwilson5556
@stevenwilson5556 23 күн бұрын
10:36 "this is the beauty of differentials and integration, you never know what the fuck you're going to get"
@XanderGouws
@XanderGouws 27 күн бұрын
My favorite solution is -2/x >:) It's easy enough to show its a solution by plugging it into the initial equation. Though it's not explicitly in the class of solutions you found, you get it when you take c->0 asymptotically and constrain kappa = sqrt(2c) * pi/2.
@renesperb
@renesperb 25 күн бұрын
If you see that (1/2y[x]^2)' = y[x]*y'[x] you find that y ' =1/2 y^2+const. ,which is a separable differential equation , and it is easy to solve.
@ibnSafaa
@ibnSafaa 22 күн бұрын
You can rewrite it as : y = C.tan(Ax+B)
@robsbros2
@robsbros2 29 күн бұрын
I actually got one of these right!?!?!?!?!? wow. I just noticed that d/dx(y^2) = 2y dy/dx
@brickie9816
@brickie9816 22 күн бұрын
i approached it like so: yy' = y'' 2yy' = 2y'' yy' + yy' = 2y'' (y*y)' = 2y'' (power rule) y^2 = 2y' (integrate both sides) y^2/2 = y' i have arrived at the same expression as you but didn't know how to continue so i very much appreciate the video!
@ntuneric
@ntuneric 21 күн бұрын
+C
@brickie9816
@brickie9816 21 күн бұрын
@@ntuneric good catch, idk how I could have forgotten
@vatsalyavashisth828
@vatsalyavashisth828 27 күн бұрын
great video !!! 10:39 XD
@MauriceL2006
@MauriceL2006 26 күн бұрын
Differential equations are fun that by some nontrivial transformation sometimes we can reduce the equation we know how to solve ❤
@speadskater
@speadskater 29 күн бұрын
This could be written as an exponential
@tszhanglau5747
@tszhanglau5747 29 күн бұрын
should have titled this "Deez Differential Equation is Nuts"
@JacquesRGAO
@JacquesRGAO 29 күн бұрын
yy'=1/2(f^2)', thus $\frac{f^2}{2}-f'=C$, now this is a separable equation, something like $f=k\frac{Ae^{kx}+1}{Ae^{kx}-1}$...
@PixelSergey
@PixelSergey 25 күн бұрын
You said that (y-dt/dy)*t=0 for all x implies that (y-dt/dy)=0 for all x or t=0 for all x. But surely one can be zero on some interval and the other can be zero on the other intervals? 4:02
@adityamishra0706
@adityamishra0706 Ай бұрын
It's good
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 29 күн бұрын
It seems someone wrote yy' = y'' instead of $yy' = y''$
@user-cj9uj9wb5m
@user-cj9uj9wb5m 29 күн бұрын
yy'=y" 1/2Dy^2=Dy' 1/2y^2=y' Int dx=Int 2/y^2 dy x +c =2/y y=2/x+c
@tusharsr2709
@tusharsr2709 26 күн бұрын
the base question was integrable in itself, you'd get the same result
@Himanish-wu6ip
@Himanish-wu6ip 24 күн бұрын
I think another solution is y=-2/x
@Wielorybkek
@Wielorybkek 28 күн бұрын
neat!
@demetrib2956
@demetrib2956 18 күн бұрын
You forgot the solution when c=0 not just when c=! 0 ❤
@denizgoksu9868
@denizgoksu9868 29 күн бұрын
I like that schizo chain rule way of transforming the equation
@ShadowPhoenix4798
@ShadowPhoenix4798 24 күн бұрын
y•y^’=y^(‘•’) y^(‘+1)=y^(‘^2) log_y both sides ‘+1=‘^2 -(‘),-1 both sides 0=(‘^2)-(‘)-1 >is quadratic in form a=1, b=(-1), c=(-1) => (1(+/-)sqrt(1-(-4))/2 => (1(+/-)sqrt(5))/2 Positive happens to work out to (‘)= golden ratio Negative is (1-sqrt(5))/2 >cursed, but cool coincidence. Final answer; (‘) = φ, (1-sqrt(5))/2
@brandonklein1
@brandonklein1 24 күн бұрын
You missed an interesting solution if C=0 though! If c=0 y=-1/x, which is also a solution.
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 29 күн бұрын
Flammy looking hot, in more than one way. We gonna have shirtless video one day? ❤
@victory6468
@victory6468 25 күн бұрын
I got -2/x
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 26 күн бұрын
plz eolve JBEE Retreat questions they arecthe heardest examn in de world1!1!!!1!1!1!!!1!1!!! Jokes aside that is a pretty crazy ODE
@machoodin5172
@machoodin5172 29 күн бұрын
Why c cant be 0? If c was zero the integral would have another solution
@nif4345
@nif4345 29 күн бұрын
y=0
@mizjackyhoward3495
@mizjackyhoward3495 Ай бұрын
Woohoo
@sans1331
@sans1331 27 күн бұрын
simple. yy’=y’’ raise both sides to the power of 1/‘ yy=y’ y^2=y’ ‘=2 edit: this is a joke btw lmao
@ShadowPhoenix4798
@ShadowPhoenix4798 24 күн бұрын
If we still take “‘“ as a variable, the actual answer is that ‘ has two solutions, one of which is the golden ratio, which i find even more cursed than what this is.
@ShadowPhoenix4798
@ShadowPhoenix4798 24 күн бұрын
If ‘=2, y^(2+1)=y^(2^2) Simplifies to y^3=y^4, which is only true at y=0
@johnwt7333
@johnwt7333 28 күн бұрын
Shirtless video soon?
@kappascopezz5122
@kappascopezz5122 28 күн бұрын
My approach: y y' = y'' (y²)'/2 = y'' Integrate both sides (I'm ignoring the +C because the problem will be annoying, I'm not doing partial fractal decomposition) : y³/6 = dy/dx Separation of variables: int dx = 6 int 1/y³ dy x = 6/(-2) * 1/y² + A x = A - 3/y² 1/y² = A - x/3 y = 1/sqrt(A - x/3)
@ozzymandius666
@ozzymandius666 26 күн бұрын
You should have been a physicist. Physicists are the people who forget factors of 1/2, sign changes, etc.
@ofridaniel2127
@ofridaniel2127 29 күн бұрын
2 views in 3 seconds bro has fell off
@adityamishra0706
@adityamishra0706 Ай бұрын
Plz solve jee advanced questions ❤
@tophatjones6241
@tophatjones6241 Ай бұрын
Please Solve JEE Advanced Questions
@virat.chauhan
@virat.chauhan 29 күн бұрын
Motivate him to solve something serious i.e. Millennium Problems
@jorex6816
@jorex6816 29 күн бұрын
​@@virat.chauhan haha
@ntuneric
@ntuneric 21 күн бұрын
i did it as y'=p(y) y''=(p(y))'=p'y'=p'p. here p'=dp/dy yp=p'p case 1. p=0 → y'=0 → y=constant case 2. p≠0 → p'=y → p=½y²+k from here y'/(½y²+k)=1 if k > 0, k=2A² → y = 2A·tan(Ax+B) if k = 0 → y=-2/(x+C) if k < 0, k=-2A² → -2A·tanh(Ax+B)
@ntuneric
@ntuneric 21 күн бұрын
(the video told me to post my solution before watching so i didnt know i would have the same approach also peeprimepee peepeeprime)
Playing hide and seek with my dog 🐶
00:25
Zach King
Рет қаралды 34 МЛН
Clowns abuse children#Short #Officer Rabbit #angel
00:51
兔子警官
Рет қаралды 79 МЛН
Heartwarming Unity at School Event #shorts
00:19
Fabiosa Stories
Рет қаралды 23 МЛН
A little girl was shy at her first ballet lesson #shorts
00:35
Fabiosa Animated
Рет қаралды 14 МЛН
Playing hide and seek with my dog 🐶
00:25
Zach King
Рет қаралды 34 МЛН