This For Real Or Some SHENANIGANS? FIRST FPGA SEGA DREAMCAST Footage!

Supersega FPGA SEGA Dreamcast in action apparently..
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[@lost0thech4]

Your Honest skepticism is part of the reason I watch any and all reviews you do

[@jonniefast]

ya hes good (for an Angels fan lmao) 💚💛

[@mikeclark4480]

Dreamcast is very cool but I need to see FPGA Saturn to make me a believer.

[@rockfresh5359]

Saturn is nothing but a Japanese ps1

[@mikeclark4480]

@@rockfresh5359 No part of that statement is true.

[@jeffro9252]

@@rockfresh5359lol no.

[@netten2057]

@@rockfresh5359Only someone who knows nothing about electronics would say something like that...

[@Ze0do0Gas]

I really need this to be real, my third Sega Saturn has gone to Heaven and I don't want to buy a fourth.

[@nvc.]

I don't trust it man.. I'm hoping it's real but there's 0 intent to show that this is legit..

[@STP.83]

Same

[@davidtorres523]

Yeah I agree. I mean if they have gotten this far, why not show the actual hardware. There has to be a prototype made right? This Dreamcast core needs to be running on something. Why not show the hardware before the software. Then show the machine itself being controlled and running the game. Things are not adding up.

[@dnkeitaro2011]

I agree

[@markx1126]

The easiest way to go about this project would be to use an authentic chipset for the Dreamcast (maybe emulating a few of the harder to find chips), and then use FPGA emulation for all the other consoles. The Dreamcast had clones even when it was in production. Both the SH and PowerVR architectures lived on long after the Dreamcast, although there might be slight incompatibilities with newer processor versions and of course clock speed differences. Using an FPGA to emulate these processors would be much more expensive, and a waste having a really powerful FPGA just for one system.

[@nvc.]

@@markx1126 But then this project hould be pointless. The De10 allready replicates all sega hardware except the dreamcast. FPGA Dreamcast is what makes this project exciting. imo

[@michaelmcmahon8312]

I need to see a dreamcast disc being put in the machine and booted up to play because right now I'm extremely skeptical about this so-called console

[@zordoneltar5571]

Did you not see the DC games were .chd those are roms not disc images there's no way in hell they can "make" a gdrom to actually read DC discs

[@SaraphXIII]

That isn't going to happen. You'd need a GD-ROM drive to play retail games. Burned games can use the included disc drive if set up correctly.

[@alexenochss]

@@SaraphXIII the original dreamcast used a cd rom drive with modified software to support gd-rom tech this is also how the work around to rip dreamcast games on specific cd rom drives worked on pc.. while they could technically find a way to do this but i highly doubt it will ever happen

[@nvc.]

Here's the problem, from what i know, FPGA allways has frame accuracy, might render slow if not well implemented or the FPGA board doesn't have enough logic elements, but all frames are allways rendered properly in FPGA, thats why it's so accurate, its recreating the original board. This footage has frame skipping, that's a sign of soft emulation.. I don't know man, doesn't look like this is running on a FPGA system.

[@labnine3362]

100% on target here. Software emulation and the fact that they tried to pass it off means we should not trust them.

[@ccricers]

I think the only soft emulation that can completely mimic FPGA emulation is transistor level emulation. Projects like metalNES do this, frame accurate but render frames even a lot more slowly than FPGA.

[@nvc.]

@@ccricers Not even that. The sequence of info output on original hardware is done through multiple chips at the exact same time, that can never be replicated on software emulation because the process is allways done one after the other, in sequence, there will allways exist input lag no matter how fast the emulator/machine are, it's never the same. The only thing that can do exactly the same as an original board is FPGA. The problem is that FPGA is much more expensive.

[@moonbilal707]

You know you can play as Morrigan in Gunbird 2! Highlight the question mark on the player select screen. Press Up to play as Morrigan. Press Down to play as Ain.

[@PauloBridi]

Something that no one seems to point out, is that every time a new fpga core is released we usually have some bugs and imperfections. See N64 for example, we had like no-shadow, no-hat Mario and other crazy bugs. This time they got it 100% perfect out of the box. I would doubt that.

[@Madlittlepixel]

Well yeah, kinda unspoken but spoken as I think we all were thinking that. Thats what I was kind of hinting at about them saying they needed weeks more work on Dreamcast, then 3 days later this perfect thing comes out. Seems very odd, barely any loading as well?

[@Riz2336]

Reminiscent of coleco chameleon dawg

[@XVa-uj8m]

This. I am more interested in the Brazilian FPGA that only handles up to the Saturn I think. THAT actually looks legit, not this.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Between the Ouya, Spectrum Vega+, Coleco Chameleon and the Amico, I give all of these projects the side-eye until they prove themselves legitimate.

[@josephfrye7342]

I prefer transparent color of Dreamcast and computers btw including Saturn etc. so you can see the motherboard or board circuits.

[@SynthfulDuck]

This is hella fishy, I suspect they are using already-made open source FPGA cores. At best, they are trying to glue open source software and hardware into a product (which can't be done in certain open source licenses), that's why the amateur GUI look.

[@rahulsingh954]

Well hate to break it but the loading is fake and the first menu seems like a animation and even loading looks like a animation made by someone in a rush

[@Electro096]

They need in person video showing the Console and all the cables plugged into the Television or monitor.

[@Madlittlepixel]

Yep, thats what I mean off camera footage instead of gameplay capture.

[@jackipiegg]

11:33 Apparently someone on twitter uncovered it as a scam, too bad.

[@ColdHighway7]

Link?

[@WakandaForever1776]

Sega themselves should be making this system. Everyone would buy it if it has a price of $300 and under.

[@JeffRivera]

Honest skepticism is always the right course to take until we know one way or another. The onus is on the company to dispel doubts. I sure hope it's all legit though. It would be an amazing product.

[@fatherdom7619]

Almost like the video wasn't playing in normal speed. I'm skeptical too. Still, going to be cool to have even if it isn't perfect or dreamcast is only emulated. As long as it is at a decent price.

[@net_news]

estas mejorando tu español amigo!! Muy bueno!! 👏

[@jimmiephilavanh9730]

If it comes out in December in 2024 for sure i’ma buy it heck yes! 🙌 👏👍

[@BFKAnthony817]

GDEMU emulates GDROM drive via FPGA and it was released in 2014. This is not much of a stretch to think that 10 years later others could do the other areas of Dreamcast besides the disc drive. But I too am a bit skeptical because FPGA implementation of other systems from that similar time frame to Dreamcast do not all run and work as well. But didn't N64 get done on FPGA recently too? PSX? Saturn is complicated but if those other systems are running maybe others could be possible this far into the future.

[@Matucks]

They should add the Sega Game Gear to really complete the collection, I mean how often do we get any hope of anything catering to SEGA loyalists, everything from handhelds to retro besides the Anbernic RG ARC is engineered with Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft in mind.

[@arcadeperfectreviews2653]

Gane gear is basically a portable master system so you COULD load the roms onto that

[@WaverBoy]

The Analogue Mega Sg plays all Sega consoles through Genesis/Megadrive including Game Gear, fantastic unit

[@Matucks]

@@WaverBoy Indeed however it seems to be sold out for quite sometime now

[@Matucks]

@@arcadeperfectreviews2653 yes but it could of been nice to have a dedicated portion of this system setup for its own software like how they have all the others displayed in that menu, but your right

[@cherylin4u]

Awesome review! Look forward to your next great video😍😍

[@robert5235]

What is wrong with just playing Dreamcast on a Dreamcast?

[@labnine3362]

Yes, 100% based comment.

[@VOAN]

Sometimes the laser doesn't work, the hinges on the Dreamcast could easily be broken and the modem is missing on it.

[@Prime-1111X]

5:38 I know the FPGA Saroo cartridge for the Sega Saturn has almost to none loading time, but there's multiple reviewers showcased it. For the Super Sega, "IF" you have the money to invest/gamble than go for it. The only system I've took a chance on was the Collectorvision Phoenix, and I love that system every bit. But this new company should show the system running before advertising gameplay.

[@ColdHighway7]

I'm going to take a wait and see approach. If/when they start asking for funding, they need to have some hard proof that this is real

[@middle_pickup]

An FPGA dreamcast doesn't sound that crazy to me. Modern FPGA designs have been successful in simulations of entire retro PC's as I understand it. It's a thing in industrial applications.

[@Juganawt]

Looking at how the Capcom spinning logo on Gunbird is broken into primitives , this looks like either it’s software emulation, or the FPGA programming isn’t up to par. The skeptic and realist in me think they’ve just taken an old open source software emulator and slapped a different front end on it

[@tatecheddar]

What's the load time like with a Dreamcast that's been fitted with an ODE? Maybe that should be a starting point? Idk...

[@jonathonearl482]

If it's legit and for SegaCD, I would want one!

[@MKV11212]

Sounds like the Escobar Console 😂

[@MrStupidlook]

I want all this to be real, but I remain skeptical until I see the actual console playing the games with no video cuts/edits.

[@common_c3nts]

This is a dreamcast with extra steps.

[@insomniamonkey]

I'd be skeptical as well. There's no actual footage of someone powering up the supposed system nor is there any showing of someone playing the system. A game capture is different, if they'd show both it'd be believable but this doesn't really prove anything to me yet. Also the 3D design of the system is really bad. I continue to see most people make just straight up boxes. At least with the neptune there's something thats based on an actual prototype.

[@NoSuRReNDeR001]

Should have called it MEGA SEGA.... thats way more on brand

[@PhilipManthe]

If they're not yet done getting the DreamCast Core quite right, then is it possible that they have the parts of the system that emulate the GPU or CPU programmed to faster than original hardware would? Like maybe they don't have the correct processor speed dialed in yet? I know next to nothing about FPGAs so can someone confirm or deny that could be a possibility?

[@PabstOban]

As far as FPGA goes... the cores I would love to see finished in the console space would be Dreamcast, PSP, FM Towns and 3D0. If they can manage that on the DE10 Nano... thats all I need in life. For me... consoles/computers are done as far as my wish list. After that it's all the long road to making cores for Arcade machines, which will be a slow process.

[@Jaxxon123]

All those you listed plus the Jaguar/CD, CD-i, CPS-3, PGM...and then we'll be complete.

[@tetsuoshima2314]

Crazy Taxi though is basically a tiny launch title that would be easier to run than bigger titles, probably why it's one of the first couple they got working.

[@dreamcazman]

The frame rate in Crazy Taxi was shocking (nowhere near 60fps) and certainly not from a genuine DC. It could running on the FPGA which needs work but could also have been captured from a dodgy software emulator.

[@MrSolidtiger]

FPGA should load closely to the same speed.

[@robert_roland63]

I’m not convinced. How do we know this on the hardware? This could be another Amico situation, but until the actual console is put in front of me and experience it myself I cannot take this at face value.

[@VOAN]

This one will more likely similar to the Polymega situation. Big promises but little delivery. Whether successful or not, they will put it on Kickstarter or Indiegogo and beg for money. Once it's funded, it will take forever to launch.

[@robert_roland63]

I remember following the modern Atari VCS, and I thought that console would never come out. It did after such a long time so I know people have good ideas which can take a long time to bring that concept to life. At least there is a process getting the funds up to bring these consoles to a reality. Oh I’ll keep my eyes on this console because I am interested for sure.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks.

[@chillibeef9947]

Have they said if it plays all regions? That would be a game changer

[@Gamma00Ray]

Where's the part showing "LOADING CRAZY TAXI (15K)"? That seems suspect.

[@UnknownGalaxy]

looks like retroarch

[@Ryuujin1078]

Spanish? Not Portuguese? I thought the people making this were from Brazil.

[@marcelosoares7148]

You are probably mistaking this with the GF1 Neptune by GameScare. That project is from Brazil.

[@JJbm4233]

This would be the ultimate dream come true if it can accurately emulate, Sega Saturn discs

[@superroboted]

It seems rather choppy....I dunno either

[@wezyap]

The name is clearly "S-Upers-EGA" so I see no problem there...

[@Redonepunch]

I think with cartridge games, the ROM gets loaded into the SDRAM so that the FPGA can access it directly like it would with a cartridge. That’s why you need the larger SDRAM for the NeoGeo core and why it takes longer to load those games. I don’t think that’s the case with CD consoles like PlayStation and Saturn. I might be wrong but that’s my guess. Btw the Supersega UI is pretty ugly. Would be funny if it ends up being just a software emulation box

[@gbraadnl]

feels like a software only demo:

[@emotionz3]

What I’ve never understood is why there isn’t a full on emulator to run ON the Dreamcast that covers all previous Sega consoles, including Saturn. Obviously SG1000, master system/game gear, and Genesis are easy enough to accurately software emulate. But the Saturn should be hardware-compatible with the Dreamcast CPU because the DC uses the same Hitachi SH architecture as the Saturn, and its GPU is significantly more powerful, plenty of headroom for a wrapper to process quadrilaterals. I get why the Saturn was so hard to emulate, but I don’t get why the DC, a machine-code-compatible successor, was overlooked as a bridge console…the same way the Saturn, which had the same CPU’s as the 32x, AND A CARTRIDGE SLOT, couldn’t run 32x cartridges! I mean you can’t make up the stupidity in that oversight.

[@davidbarlee4722]

I have an original Dreamcast console, this looks like it is skipping frames to me. I suspect this is running on Dreamcast pc emulator but time will tell.

[@blakewilliams5627]

Could load faster because it’s a faster disc drive.

[@Artimidorus]

Cynical skeptic in me says it's probably fake, but every part of me HOPES it's real. For FPGA though, I'd rather they had used the discs vs an image file. And if they used an image, I'd expect almost no loading times because it's on a drive and doesn't need to read. This is to much like a normal emulator without disc reads.

[@CoreyWashington333]

It would have been better if they had a loading logo better than that

[@alextirrellRI]

I know it's early but the interface is super crunchy. I don't like the idea of them using Sega in the product name, nor using the actual logo font in the interface. Sega is usually pretty chill with fansites, sure, but if you start selling a console with their name and branding they're probably going to go after it.

[@robbyjvc]

That thing is cracked out...

[@sxixlxnx]

Frames look off to me.

[@ItsTeezoUBZ]

A FPGA implementation of Sega Dreamcast??

[@robprupe]

Seems just like another Mars FPGA.

[@shingotink5062]

This seems so fishy to me.

[@guyverjay1289]

Indeed

[@natswii]

Lets see some Verilog code for Dreamcast FPGA implementation then eh!!! -

[@googleboughtmee]

How can you even suggest there's any shenanigans - did you not see the picture of him in a Ferrari? Case closed

[@jeremyzeeky3024]

Speaking of suspicious fpga projects... Where's MARS lol

[@stephenshelottiii3272]

I’m just as skeptical as you are with this. Gameplay footage is nice but no proof of concept. I would have an easier time believing in this if it were a Genesis/Mega Drive cartridge plugged into a cartridge slot attached to a pile of wires and boards. Or in this case a generic GDRom drive attached to said pile of wires and boards. I don’t care what state your prototype is in playing backups from an SD card is not impressive.

[@nickah1]

I can’t be 100% certain, but it could be real and I say this because on my Dreamcast it’ll load games faster due to the drive being swapped out for an SD card reader (even plays games better due to better read times). Now obviously my situation isn’t 1:1 with this supposed FPGA implementation, but the faster load speeds could be in part due to running off a current gen SD card and possibly also running on a newer FPGA that’s significantly more capable than a Dreamcast.

[@tecpaocelotl]

I wouldn't pre-order.

[@VOAN]

This looks more like a pitch video than an actual demonstration. Until we see the machine in play instead of a video capture I doubt this is anything genuine.

[@IsaacGabriel-kh5ds]

Stick with Flycast if you want real Dreamcast emulation.

[@johng9465]

All I know is that my Analogue Pocket doesn’t have Sega CD and I’ve read that is because it is too powerful for an FPGA chip. Maybe these guys have something better but the load times are suspect.

[@VOAN]

You could play Sega CD games on the Analogue Mega Sg though. Just load your Sega CD ISO image onto the Mega SD or Mega EverDrive pop that into the Mega Sg. The only library you can't play on the Mega Sg was the Sega 32X, with that it required an add-on which had been discontinued.

[@EvilMyers]

It sounds to good to be true, until they show someone on screen loading into the Super Sega console dev kit, I wouldn't trust it, for all we know, that Street Fighter 2 footage may be from a real Sega Dream cast instead of this supposed new Super Sega. If they do try and crowd fund, they better have an actual dev kit to prove it's authenticity ,otherwise it will be a hard pass from everyone

[@deerocker4113]

It’s emulation lol

[@zombiekohhi3586]

I want to know how gd-roms are going to work

[@byronlaw6491]

Super Street Fighter 2X like the Darkstalkers DC game doesn’t play naturally in RGB. You need a patched disc image. I thought this thing was meant to play discs. Seems a scam.

[@mannduro]

It will NEVER read any DC disk ever. Sega was pretty good in keeping the Production tight and secret. There is no, will no ever be a DC Disk drive for the free market Only thing this is reading is burned disks, period

[@billford171]

all these projects are fake until they are in production, shipping, and reviewers get their hands on them.

[@Kayla037]

Remember Intellivisiion. NOPE ! Don't trust it.

[@gamelordabd]

Yeah I'm going to need to see more. Everything about this seems fishy.

[@VEGANVANIA]

Vapor Trail isnt just the name of a mediocre arcade game wirh an amazing soundtrack. If you know what I mean. And I think that you do.

[@420hess]

It's trash look how it skips an jumps use redream lol totally worth the money plays all dreamcast games no issues or I haven't found any

[@gorofujita5767]

As an old school SEGA fan, I do not find FPGAs not all that exciting. Most of DC games are too low resolution for any monitor above 15 inches (lets not even speak of the Saturn), and the fact this is made for CDs and Cartdriges which are no longer in production are will only exist less of in the future and thus are EXPENSIVE just makes it very "meh" A good Flycast or BeetleSaturn update is functionally much more interesting than this

[@samhain81]

I absolutely detest the Loading screen. I won't be buying it , on that alone.

[@STP.83]

I don't think this thing will ever become real

[@collectthemall]

This is super fishy . linux pc with cartridge and GD-rom support - maybe . FPGA - I doubt it.

[@ukemix8848]

SuperScam

[@48hourrecordsteam45]

Yeah right 🤔. All sega machine .!! Won’t happen Imagine a console that can play Sega cd & Genesis and Dreamcast games .!!! 🧐 Why the internet lying to us like this all the timen

[@megazoid]

Sega not going after them for IP infringement... lol, sure. Most likely this is some kind of investor scam.

[@64bitRewind]

I bet this is a joke and someone out there is laughing their a** off that this is even getting traction and attention

[@eagle2032]

Prototype to release in 3 months? I call boobooness.

[@48hourrecordsteam45]

Yeah right 🤔. All sega machine .!! Won’t happen Imagine a console that can play Sega cd & Genesis and Dreamcast games .!!! 🧐 Why the internet lying to us like this all the time . If it is true it need to look like the cdx And how is it goin to use the controllers They all have different plugs .!

[@biorum]

Learn some spanish man, I think you live in California.

[@Leo_DS]

Looks fake to me. No graphical glitches in their early showing of such a complex system?

[@cherylin4u]

Pls check your collab email!

[@mercuryshadow09]

When I see a review video of MLP with one of these in house saying its good, then I'll be interested. Until then, meh.

[@sirtonymayo1468]

The amico will be out before this 😂😂😂😂 dont trust it at all

[@VOAN]

I doubt the Amico will ever launch, so far there's only 3 people testing the thing. The machine would had launch quicker if they actually sent thousands of test units to actual legit testers like Linus, the Phawx, or Spawn Wave.

[@gelijkjatoch1009]

Better on PC With the latest drivers, software and the latest AI.

[@gaijintendo]

Is there any obvious emulator issues in the game video? They could have used a real console, but grifters tend not to try too hard.

[@kennethkiser6975]

Grain of salt..

[@gem7303]

If they are around for so long, their CAD and GUI design is most ugly and shows no love or respect to Sega. Loading a game from CHD image from SD card instead of GD-ROM shows they want to lure customers instead of talking about the technical details. They simply can not provide genuine GD drives i would assume. Also what about that expensive FPGA dev board they are "using"? Even if they are trying for real they can not succedd.

[@adrian_veidt]

I don't trust it. Also, sick of this bs narrative and glazing on FPGA.