THIS FURY WON'T FIRE! LET'S TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT

[@thomasweatherford5125]

To all the new subs - this content is epic! Just watch some of the old videos and enjoy! Mike encounters all the crap you go through and finds solutions with stuff that’s just laying around the garage. No egos, no sales pitch, just solid wrenching and professional body work.

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks for the kind words Thomas

[@bernardbrady1651]

Love your down to earth commentary. I look forward to seeing all your posts. Keep them coming please.

[@kellyhumes1217]

The ECU is probably bad, I bet if you replace it you shouldn’t have any more issues. Really digging the Fury by the way!

[@mustralineabsorbine5082]

Your diagnostic skills are top notch! Watching you work is like watching an artist at work. Being able to diagnose an electrical problem was a great experience for me. I do not have those skills and admire those that have them. Thanks so much. :)

[@johnhouseholder7682]

What a humble guy you are, if it was easy everyone would do it. Here since the early days love your channel and your kids channel though the aren’t as prolific as you.i know they’re busy. Thanks John from Arizona

[@markshuput5228]

Issues like that teach a man how to cuss. Your knowledge and patience is amazing. You would make a great instructor because I learn more with every video. Great job Mike!

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks Mark

[@brian5o]

I just wanted to thank you Weird Beard for getting back to your regular uploads. I know sometimes life gets in the way and your not one of those people making their entire living on KZbin but I missed you when you took a break and I am so happy you're uploading again. You are by far one of my favorite KZbinrs (besides your kids) and one of my favorite people to watch on here. Thanks for your content, Mr Beard!

[@ezesrebuilds1174]

Here we go again, literally to the 1% who's reading this, God bless you, and may your dreams come true, stay safe and have a wonderful and blessed day.😇

[@craigbowley6783]

Right back acha😉

[@ezesrebuilds1174]

@@craigbowley6783 Thanks 😇

[@grayhounddaddy62leake83]

Another great video. Love watching the progress on the Ol' Fury!

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks for watching

[@KR-ti5uz]

Thank you for saving that Fury from the crusher.

[@weirdbeard8898]

My pleasure

[@STUDIO99MUSIC]

Thanks for dropping this week! As always I learned a lot! 🔥🔥🔥

[@DoctorHayduke]

Man, I totally hear you regarding ignition issues killing the spirit of fun. I just bought a 75 Pinto and I'm chasing down what appears to be a Medusa's head of problems. And I have no idea what I'm doing. Thanks for doing what you do...I am learning a lot, that's for sure!

[@asn413]

well at least you have the guts to keep at it :)

[@weirdbeard8898]

No fun at all

[@WingmanJohnny]

Perfect explanation. Did the job talked people through it. That's what people need. Doing great little brother. Keep up the great work

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks Johnny. Glad you liked it

[@lirr408]

Great to see a video from you this week and I love the progress on the Fury. It looks low and mean. Awesome!!

[@wesleypulkka7447]

WB, you always stick with it and win! Great video on how to walk through several issues and solve 'em one at a time! Thanks!

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks Wesley. Glad you liked it

[@wesleypulkka7447]

@@weirdbeard8898 After you went through that dash and roof rebuild I figure there's not much that you can't do. All the best!

[@truthtobehonest]

Glad you solved that starting issue, great video WB.

[@hanknipper3921]

Get the Fury going! Love the channel Brother

[@weirdbeard8898]

Glad you like it

[@GreyRockOne]

Don't know what to say, I've had these exact systems (control box, ballast resistor etc) running for years with no issues.. BTW, that is a simple form of HEI ignition, Chrysler had it before the others and it's very reliable. I'd personally put your money toward other things the Fury needs.. Nice work though. I'd take ten of these "ignition" issues over any other work you've done on it!

[@543monk2]

Keep up the fury videos👍 thanks for the awesome content wb

[@claytondewey3367]

Never had a problem with the moper electronic ignition aside from age. I use only Mopar orange ignition box. My friend used several from the auto parts store (China products) nothing but problems with them.

[@weirdbeard8898]

I’ll keep that in mind Clayton

[@buckykattnj]

If you're worried about the car just giving out without warning, GM-based HEI modules have always been known for doing this, too. Back in the day, it was always a good idea to keep a spare HEI module in the glovebox or toolbox. I'm not necessarily pro or con HEI. It does create a hot spark and is a little bit less maintenence. But at the same time, I tend to keep cars mostly stock, as, at least on GM, the stock pre-HEI stuff was pretty bulletproof... I can't speak to '60s/'70s era MoPar tech, however.

[@DoonerF]

Congrats on the fix brother! I knew that box of death had to be bad. That thing is like the blue screen of death on computers back in the day. 😂 Had a friend that bought, restored, and sold Plymouth, Chrysler, and Dodge. Luckily his father-n-law owned a dealership. When he closed down, my friend bought all his parts stock. Great vid man!!!

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks for sharing an old memory.

[@CruisinComPTon]

Damn right it was a good day when Weird Beard puts out new content👍

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks man

[@donaldharen]

Patience, perseverance, self control! Always enjoy watching your channel! God bless. 👏

[@smavtmb2196]

So happy for a new video and that you got the Fury running. I got a similar issue on my early 70 Ford Maverick. It probably doesn't help that I haven't been running it often enough lately. Usually the 200 straight 6 fires right up. At least it's a simple engine to work on so I'll figure it out. Take Care

[@richc9503]

Dude, you had me worried when it didn't pop off after you replaced the ignition module... Glad you got it figured out. My Grandma had the same car in a 4 door when I was a kid, even the same color. I know I'm dating myself but I remember when she bought it. We ended up with that car when she couldn't drive anymore, it was a boat, but definitely a cruiser. I can remember driving it when I was 16.

[@rgbigdog]

Use a heat gun to soften up that old tape, works really well.

[@joebrock9784]

That blue Box is what I'm talking about and then you replace that with the HI module 4 pins GM and you'll never have an issue again with it you put that same setup in there they were problematic when they came out and they're still programmed today they're just about like Ford's Derek's barbecue mission they work half half half when they work and when they don't they don't it's the same basic idea as what ford had with the Durst bark and a lot of them have been bypassed in the same way I'm telling you with a $10 HEI model from the GM17 I'm distributor you noticed it's got 4 pins and all you have to do is run that wire for the distributor To the top pin of the HI muzzle there's a lot of videos to show you how to wire it up the Goody one so she had a wired up on the

[@terryeustice5399]

I can see that was no fun Weird Beard. Especially after all the work you put into the Fury. Thank you for Sharing!

[@johnelliott7375]

Keep it up because I know that it is going to fire right up. Easy is simple and simple is less to break and easier to fix! Great day to you sir.

[@jaysmith5084]

HEI is the way to go and the ignition module is what you need because it's the one part you didn't try 😂 Back to business now let's get cranking out some more videos like that new intake job .

[@alanross7580]

Very Very rarely do the pickups in the distributor go bad. I've had at least 10 Mopar's and I've never had a bad one. But you definitely do a nice job of showing how to do the testing of the ignition components. By the way that's one bad ass Mopar!

[@lawerencestimpson2280]

Well I had a problem with a 6 cyl. 70 Duster distributor.Mainly the cheap nylon or plastic gear breaking.Mopar got cheap in some in strange ways.

[@45AMT]

Those ole ignition boxes are the #1 thing on an old Chrysler ignition system to go out. Glad you got it straightened out Mike!

[@gregt722]

Hey WB! Don’t forget about the 1990 F150 and the beautiful 1959 Dodge. I miss those episodes. Man you’ve got a ton of content sitting in your yard!

[@installwebercarburetorsona6159]

A distributor recurve kit with weaker springs will really wake up 70’s smog era V-8’s

[@TheProjectHelpDesk]

I know what you mean with the old video taking off. We had a Mr Heater video that sat dormant for the first 10 months after release. Only about 200 views. Winter hit and the next thing you know it went to 93K views. Sometimes the old algorithm just blesses you LOL.

[@weirdbeard8898]

I had the same thing happen last year around the same time of year. Maybe it’s a thing.

[@darrenashley126]

Tip 2: Remember to always disconnect the negative side first. Doing this will significantly decrease the odds of experiencing a short through the frame of your car or other conductive metals. This is because if you accidentally contact the frame of the car with your wrench when disconnecting the negative nothing will happen. Once disconnected the positive will not pose a short risk to the frame either.

[@weirdbeard8898]

Good tip. Thanks for sharing

[@todddenio3200]

@@barryscott1309 disconnecting the ground first is applicable everywhere whether in the UK, Brazil, or the USA or Canada. Those who do not disconnect the ground first are taking a chance of shorting out the battery which can have catastrophic results. I wasnt paying attention and accidently started to unhook the hot lead from a battery before the ground and melted the hot terminal off the battery. Another time years earlier when I was a kid, my older brother accidently knocked a wrench off the top of the fender on a car and it hit both the positive battery terminal and the negative terminal on the battery which would be the same as hitting an inner fenderwell or anything else that is grounded on the car. The battery sparked for an instant then blew up -- blowing the top off the battery which his hand was resting on and smashed his hand into the underside of the hood cutting and bruising it as well as bresking a few bones in the main part of his hand and spraying acid all over everything includjng him... spraying his shirt and pants, both of his hands, his face, and getting some in his eyes. He did suffer damage to his vision but luckily was not totally blinded in the incident.

[@todddenio3200]

@@barryscott1309 dont always go by the + and -- markings. Older vehicles were almost always positive ground electrical systems which is why I used the terms GROUND and HOT.

[@asn413]

priced a carb for a slant 6. STICKER SHOCK! part prices are insane!!!

[@weirdbeard8898]

Prices are ridiculous

[@hayneshvac2]

I will admit that the HEI distributor is definitely the way to go...Though the Mopar engines a far more durable, the GM ignition system is definitely superior.

[@sshelton4543]

Glad to see you back on your grind again and I missed your content so PLEASE DON’T STOP

[@1g_dsm_life154]

Honestly I'm with you just buy a HEI distributor of Amazon for 80 bucks it even comes with plug wires lol I did it on my power wagon it so much simpler all you need is a 12v switched wire and a vacuum line.

[@asn413]

if i may suggest... you might want to pop a performance coil in there. i'ts always been a good investment for me. for lazy to fire motors it gives it a little kick in the pants

[@johnelliott7375]

I was thinking about cleaning up the distributor hold down fork before you install the distributor back in the car. Always keep a spare in your car.

[@timmarquez713]

Another great video as always, keep ‘em coming! I know the market is terrible right now, but I really miss the flip cars and auction content. Hopefully you can get back to them soon.

[@martyg3757]

Mike, check the 2-wire plug to the distributor. On the video it didn’t look like it was sea Ted all of the way in. Could separate and leave you shaking your head!

[@jdpinbaytown]

I figured it was the Ignition Module, That's not a bad system when everything is right, For years " Direct Connection " made the kit to put it on the older Point type Mopars!, Glad you got it going!

[@01trsmar]

I used that kit to replace lean burn cars...woke them up and gave them power,i also put on non smog carbs they really responded well..

[@jdpinbaytown]

@@01trsmar I forgot it was also a good replacement for the junky Leanburn!

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks for the info

[@americanrambler4972]

Hay Weird Beard, did you remember to plug that vacuum hose that was interfering with the distributor removal back into the rear of the carburetor?

[@jimifed2798]

The real benefit of hei especially in your case is not the distributor and cap with the coil in it . Its the 4 pin module which was excellent from the beginning it will allow you to run a hotter coil with 12volts directly to it 1.5 ohm. or lower . Plus ditching the ballist resistor a big plus and that hotter spark u can open the plug gap a little. I'm not against hot rodding engine swaps into different makes but putting the hei distributor and having interference problems especially after you rebuilt the mopar distributor nicely will make you look like you throw money at things you don't quite understand. The wiring is so simple and all over the internet to fire that hei module with your mopar distributor that Fury will start and run much better then ever just give it a try!!! like i did on my Javelin and many ford guys and jeep guys can attest to.

[@jmcahron368]

My 63 Dart gave me similar electrical issues. Couldn't figure it out. Had to take it to a mechanic, and they had a hell of a time. Finally turned out to be the distributor and the starter.

[@rpf691]

Mike, Back in the old days,lol the kit came with a piece of cardboard somewhat the same thickness as your matchbox.

[@joebrock9784]

I might add if you're going to bypass the bounce resistant and going to the 4 PM G maybe I'll module you have to build a little platform amount of alphabet and also you have to put dialect Reese on the back of that model you burned up but that's the best way to get around emission problems with those things I think

[@joellekarma]

your really making that old Furry looking and running good. would you be interested in selling 70s van grill you have on your wall, I have a 78 Chevy van I want to put a 71 to 77 grille in. You Can't go wrong with H.E.I. I'm a GM junky but I do love the old Mopars. They kept things the same and they were easy to work on.

[@rogerhampton9614]

I live in Asia and it’s great to wake up to a new WB video on Saturday morning. Gets my weekend off to the right start!

[@rockubtzer]

When that stupid module goes bad It either won't start when cranking or won't run when you release the key. You start it up with no problem, drive where ever, turn it off and you are stuck there... or it starts fine and when the module heats up the car dies while driving, let it cool down and it runs again until it heats up. (That is if you are lucky) The modules are backfilled with epoxy when it ages it shrinks, cracks, and takes out the circuits. Check the one you carry as a spare because they break with age used or new...

[@danielvaldezaguirre]

Looked like the parts cannon was fired, but I think all of them parts were actually needed!

[@drummerdude476]

For cutting into them wire looms, they make a tool for it, sheathing ripper tool i think its called. Its cheap enough to save you the headache of accidentally cutting a wire haha

[@puntomk1uk64]

Perseverance definitely paid off there Mike!! cool to see how you tested it all an something I'll remember to look up if ever I'm stuck 👍

[@tommyjefferson9525]

Great job beard like how you explain everything you do love the Chanel keep on keeping on

[@hayneshvac2]

the harness plug is supposed to meet completely, it's not easy, but it will go

[@hayneshvac2]

Awesome video, very informative...great job on the diagnostic. I have seen a few youtubers say not to cheap out on the HEI, some do have issues.

[@brian5o]

There is nothing like the sound of a old Chrysler starters. They always bring a smile to my face. When I was a kid, my dad had an old slant-6 Duster and I got hooked on those old, unique Chrysler starters back then.

[@henryg683]

I gotta say at one point I thought you were out of gas!!!😂 But I guess that wasn’t the case!!!! I’m hoping you get back on the blue dodge!!! How is K doing with Darlene??? I’m not seeing it in the shop???

[@Cartier_specialist]

That might have been a blessing in disquise because of the vacuum advance not working. You would've been chasing a hesitation or a dead spot in engine acceleration and chasing your tail trying to figure out what was wrong with the carburetor.

[@weirdbeard8898]

I was thinking the same thing

[@DependableAutoTruck]

you can just replace the factory module with a HEI module and use the pickup you already have in the distributor no need to buy the whole unit keep the coil and everhthing just bypass the ballast.

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks for the info

[@jtn9900]

Great looking car man, keep putting in the work.

[@glenharper3136]

Love that car. Thanks for sharing.

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks for watching Glen

[@jemtec1]

Hei isn’t perfect. The coil can overheat and short. In the process, it can wipe out the ignition module. It’s great for the integration of the coil and providing more voltage to the cap and out to the wires. Using high resistance wires will wear out the coil pretty fast however. Seen lots of guys replacing many components in a hei and buying garbage wires and back within a year or so. Hei is convenient, space saving and easy to install. But it’s not infallible. Everybody says carry a spare ignition module! It’s why I thought you had a failure. The oil leak kills the transistor from overheating. Great video!

[@weirdbeard8898]

Thanks for the info Jeff

[@philjohnston9616]

Good call with the diagnosis. Glad to see it run again

[@hayneshvac2]

One discovery I made...once you adjust the pick up on the distributor, try varying the vacuum advance to make sure there is no interference...I had a couple distributors that did have interference.

[@weirdbeard8898]

Good tip. Thanks

[@micahbush3877]

Love the fury dude.keep up the great work

[@ronwig7665]

As always mike ,you figured it out, yay for u tube videos

[@jackfisher3906]

Ignition Module, I knew it. F.Y.I. A Good KZbin Mopar Guru is Dylan McCool.

[@weirdbeard8898]

I agree. He’s great

[@arthurmccarron4379]

You probably. Know. This. Already. That. Cold War. Motors. Has. 72. Wagon. FURY. It’s. One. Of. His. Newest. Project. I remember. School. Chum. Used. Tobe. Dropped. At. School. In. A 72. Fury. I’m. Talking. Scoop. Days. 1973. I’m. 67. Keep. Up. Good. Work. Thanks

[@clydepodvin5026]

Great video as always, talking about Mark up $2.00 worth of material and charge you $40.00 crazy.

[@arthurmccarron4379]

Brother. Had. 70. Fury in. 79. Or. 80. Four. Door. Hardtop. 318. It. Started. Running. Rough. Hard. On. Gas. On day. Came. Home. For. Lunch. Stop at. Stop sign. And. Balst. Recester. Cut. Out. And. Came. Back. With. Back. Fiire. And. Split. A. New. Muffler. Wide open. What. A noise

[@trevorsparks8530]

I had a crank, but no start issue on my jeep that required the EGR valve and fuel pump, filter, and check valve to be replaced.

[@damonmedina3063]

Love your work on the Fury!

[@peacfulseas]

There's really no need to replace the distributor.The mopar system is very reliable and you've already rebuilt the all that you intend to abandon. Save the dollars for paint. But that's just me.

[@eas3rd1963]

I love how you break down diagnosis piece by piece. Great video!

[@6996brandyl]

You could have bought a new Electronic Distributor HEI for $50.00 and a HiRev Ignition Module for $40.00 off Ebay

[@paulwootton5378]

Strange.....fitted an orange coil, but......6 mins in and trying to trace the fault...a black coil is fitted? Hey maybe its the black coil? I will never know, already seen too much....bye

[@craigbowley6783]

Hey would those headers on the back wall fit the 360? Cause that would make a good video. plus a great addition to the engine 👌

[@weirdbeard8898]

Unfortunately no. They are for a Chevy

[@craigbowley6783]

@@weirdbeard8898 oh ok.

[@johnoksys7713]

Good Video Mike I Love The Older Plymouth Back In The Day When I Had A Dart Or A 76 Fury I Always Had A Spare White Box In My Glove Box I've Been Watching The Other Videos On Your Plymouth

[@paulweigle6872]

It's funny how us old guys think those old cars were so easy to diagnose and you younger guys think the new stuff is easier. We sure are glad the younger fellows are interested in learning about it though. Good job on the diagnostics. Spot on!

[@howardkoster4026]

Yes, matchbook or a business card... This explains all those extra parts that were in the trunk of my ex's old '74 Duster! My '69 Valiant ran points, so that ignition module module I didn't have. Spare ballast resister, alternator, regulator, thermostats, points, plugs, distributor cap, rotor, wires, plugs, radiator hoses and tow chain, yes.

[@weirdbeard8898]

You were prepared for anything

[@howardkoster4026]

@@weirdbeard8898 I tried, yet that Valiant broke down tons of times. I learned a lot about cars, owning that Valiant.

[@frankl.5153]

Matchbook cover is .18 to .20 Good for getting points close to the proper gap. BTW, just found your channel. Think I'll stick around. 👍

[@lennycater7533]

Good job Beard glad you got it running

[@Vaino_Hotti]

Keeping spare ignition parts in the glovebox with a mopar is exactly the same stories everyone tells about GM HEI modules and Ford Duraspark modules. Literally the same bullshit.

[@rogerfleury3591]

201st! GOOD AFTERNOON MIKE! I had a Chevrolet 49 5 window pickup. I couldn’t get it started, went through everything I could think of to help it start, but nothing worked. A friend stopped by and in about two minutes saw that the ground wasn’t hooked up. It started right up. I felt like a fool. Soon after that, I never worked on any of my cars again. That’s what mechanics are paid to do. Great job Mike! Roger in Pierre South Dakota

[@scottwatkins3743]

Welder my have fried your ignition module.

[@jdpinbaytown]

Very Possible!

[@rickwest2539]

I really miss my 72 Plymouth Fury III. Had an indestructible 318 that never gave me a problem. Bought it for $50 with no second gear and it still hauled a$$. Canary Yellow with a snot green interior and peek-a-boo headlights. You couldn’t find more personality in any car!

[@clunkersandclassics]

The ballast resistor does go out without cranking in accessory. Unscrew it and look at back. It's probably desinigrated and a rusty coil exposed. It's the most common fail of a Chrysler ignition system.

[@weirdbeard8898]

I’ll bet you’re right

[@clunkersandclassics]

@@weirdbeard8898 lots of experience with Chryslers in my younger days. These days I stick with Chevys..lol

[@tarstarkusz]

"New" is most certainly not "known good," especially in 2023 where most of these aftermarket parts are made in China to the lowest possible standards. As a general rule, you should substitute known good parts to "prove" a troubleshooting conclusion.

[@jamespn]

Mopar distributers are much easier with the slot at the bottom rather than a gear that can easily slip time. Keep a spare ballast resister in the glove box.

[@rpf691]

A short jumper wire works too, in a pinch, I've done it.

[@edwardmartinez9459]

010 brass feeler. Yep Paul Danner. Set the timing with the timing light TDC

[@richjordan9375]

Really enjoying this series. My parents had a '69 Fury wagon (Custom Suburban) and I still miss it. I only remember two ballast resistor failures, one on the wagon and one from all three later Mopars. And one single ECU failure back then on a slant-6 Dart Swinger, which did occur on the street (embarrassing). Back then even name brand parts store replacements from Standard Ignition were North American made and we had no issues with them; the chinese ones available now have a noticeable 'infant mortality' rate by many accounts. Honestly we had more issues with the two Chevy HEI and one Ford electronic ignition cars but at least they died in the driveway, not while out driving like the Dart did.

[@thagerdorn2009]

One thing to learn from this...NEVER parts cannon anything. Always find the root cause before buying parts. Money doesn't grow on trees and we're all about saving money. Hell I thought the struts were bad in my daily dad wagon Honda Odyssey, but I double checked and it was the lower ball joints. So I'm glad I didn't spend money on struts when it didn't need them.

[@michaelrooney6488]

Liked to new content, wondering if I have an issue as I have not been receiving much in the way of new content.

[@garycorbett148]

I had a 73 Dodge former California Highwway Patrol. 440 engine that only ran for ten minutes then died. Would not restart for 30 minutes. Dealer fixed it and it broke in their driveway. Called CHP and they sent new distributor. Bearing wore out at base. Problem solved.

[@ccross1210]

#replaycrew love the content as always! Mad Luv N Respect!

[@johnelliott7375]

OMG, 40 bucks for a vacuum advance is completely ridiculous and should not cost more than 15 dollars if that.