This Grand Seiko Is Almost Perfect |SBGJ237 is A Rolex Batman Alternative... But Better.

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[@astrayproductions]

It looks absolutely stunning. The finishing and the midnight blue.. left me speechless

[@realalexmackenzie]

Not ALL watch collectors look for 39mm to 40mm. I am a serious collector and there is nothing in my collection under 42mm. Put a dive bezel or similar on it and 44mm is the starting point. I have 7.5" wrists and I am well north of 6' and can find my way around a weight stack at the gym. For me, anything smaller than the aforementioned measurements makes it look as if I've mugged a child for their watch. It always puzzles me that the comment sections on every video featuring a larger watch is full of opinions on the "wrong sizing". As if the watch manufacturer had relations with the proverbial canine. There are many watches that I would love to own, but they fall short of the above referenced sizing. I accept the fact that some watches are larger, and some smaller. In fact, I would say I'm grateful for it, lest more of my net worth find its way into time pieces.

[@benjameshodges]

I like the date position as it lines up with the crown. There's something quite deliberate about it. Great looking watch.

[@charlesmiller6281]

Lol! Your one imperfection is what makes this watch absolutely perfect! The date and crown at the same angle is genius! Totally MAKES the dial! That looks like the same awesome deep blue as the dial on my Spring Drive Diver's 200m SE. Very cool!

[@BVIAS]

Agreed

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

Tried one of these on last week, stunning watch. As someone with 8 inch wrists the size is perfect. I’m not a fan of crowns or date windows at 4 o clock, but for this watch I’d make an exception. My absolute grail travel watch is the JLC master geographic. This is probably second.

[@wingi7722]

Love this piece! 44mm is perfect size for me. Few things missing from this review...1. The PRICE! 2. Where is the Lume Shot? (Is the Bezel Fully Lumed?) 3. Depth of Water Proofing? I would rather have this than a Rolex any day! 40mm Rolex way too small for me also way too expensive.

[@alber.a1232]

GS is making a remarkably great effort to position, recognition-wise, at the same image level of the swiss competitors. And to be honest,probably is achieving it. At least from my point of view.👌🏻

[@Richard-yy8tn]

GS need to watch more KZbin reviews on GS. Literally every complaint is case size and bracelet. Every compliment is the dial. When will they learn?

[@rollotomassi7437]

Agree, not everyone wants that big of a watch nor doesn’t fit a majority of normal people wrists. Why don’t they get that? One of the reason Rolex is so popular because they make watches that fit everyone,,,39-40mm is perfect. I love Blancpain but their dive watches are 44mm. I have a good size wrist but that’s just to big to wear comfortably.

[@Arseization]

I could imagine that they try to focus on their domestic market, given that they do not produce that many watches to begin with. There seems to be no immediate need to improve in those areas - or the watches seem to sell at a rate that they are comfortable with so they might not need to adjust things short term. However I do agree, the clasps are not bad but if I have to be brutally honest, it is just your average / basic two trigger clasp - produced at a very high standard. That does not make it bad but one could expect more.

[@grodq3940]

Nice ... you hold some nio shares??

[@ekimandersom4478]

@@Arseization So domestic means Japanese have big wrists? I highly doubt that.

[@nguyenduong5853]

they are Japanese and they are conservative. I'm not sure they will change their design.

[@ticktology]

This watch is absolutely stunning! I love the color combo, the sapphire bezel, and the metal finishing. I believe your points were subjective and relative…but I understand. No watch is perfect…but this one comes pretty close! The date window and crown line up at 4 o’clock, and it blends in with the watch so I don’t consider it a problem. Very well executed video.

[@Julian-rt9qs]

Holy shit. This is one of the best looking Grand Seikos I've ever seen.

[@almac9203]

I don't normally like GS designs but this is beautiful. That bezel is wow!

[@costas3953]

I have this watch and the same sized wrist. Even though the case is 44mm, this is mainly due to the large bezel. The dial itself is relatively compact and the overall look is very balanced. For a large watch it actually wears extremely well - even on smaller wrists and tends to make a smaller wrist look larger! It looks good on your wrist. My only two gripes with this watch are the weight (it's a beast) and the GMT hand which is easily mistaken for the minute hand when quickly glancing at the watch. I wish they did the GMT hand a more different colour to make it easier to differentiate at a quick glance. Apart from that, it is a fantastic watch. Enjoy it.

[@ashleychambers7602]

Absolute stunning watch probably the nicest watch I’ve ever seen, that’s my new grail watch.

[@iggysmeralda2930]

I hear a lot of reviewers often stating that the date wheel must to match the dial. I think this is true only if the date is not replacing a marker (like the 4:30 position). In the case of this watch, I think they made the right choice. If they color matched the date wheel, it would look like a smile with a missing tooth.

[@ProfessorPesca]

This is the correct take, 100%.

[@orwellknew9112]

I agree. A 40 or 41 mm version would be a much more universal fit.

[@shamilmammadov8246]

Omg. It's so beautiful. Just perfect for my wrist

[@CraigG21]

One person’s disadvantage is another’s advantage. I love the size on my larger wrist. I don’t normally like 4 o’clock date windows, but the execution here is 👌 Need to work this watch into my collection!

[@rapramos5687]

Perfect is subjective because I would change nothing about it! Great review man

[@tywinn5786]

I remember when this watch was first announced. I was super excited.....then saw the 44mm size. I think 41mm would be the perfect size. Oh will.

[@jamespalsson746]

Rotating bezel and GS always end up big in size

[@user-xh5pi2nf9q]

I love the way the light plays with the colors on the bezel on this one. I just wish it had spring drive with this color combo.

[@blueonyx7628]

Love the 44mm…but I am 7.5 inch (19cm) wrist

[@Bildi7v]

Beautiful! If this were 42mm or under, I would be all over it, I'd love a unique GMT.

[@mistermood4164]

i agree if this was 40mm this would eat rolex's lunch.

[@toddgaak422]

This will be my retirement watch.

[@hathaway.1166]

God-tier choice sir

[@bbrebozo6417]

Or you can get the SBGJ239 (the version on the strap with a green dial). I had no trouble finding 21mm straps in rubber, fabric and water proof ammo pouch leather that all have quick release spring bars (the GS strap doesn’t have quick release spring bars). I also found an angus jubilee bracelet (Watch gecko) in 21 mm that fits the watch fine. Sometimes having a large watch on a strap helps make it easier to wear. The green dial is also a little rarer than the blue dial since only GS Salons and boutiques get the green dial.

[@tonytrinidad5294]

I have the 239 with OEM Alligator strap and OEM bracelet ( but I actually prefer it on the strap) I love this color way and find the 237 a bit sterile. It's one of my favorite watches ever.

[@tgemz3376]

Looks like GS is making a coordinated marketing attack on KZbin lol

[@brandonnickerson8934]

LOL Pass the Koolaid

[@MVK_GS]

I own this watch. What swayed me to purchase it was the size. I have plenty of smaller watches.

[@davidfreeburn8592]

Its an awesome watch.the main thing that detracts from this watch is the bracelet ...that thin centre line running down the side of each centre lug is tacky and over busy...

[@tahirali4578]

All GS has to do is make this watch no larger than 41mm, a lug-to-lug of no larger than 48mm, transparent case-back, and adjustable tapered bracelet. Once done, GS will make this watch much more desirable to the watch community.

[@cajanir]

I've never liked crowns at 4 o'clock. Other than that it is a beautiful watch.

[@SirMopy]

Same

[@cajanir]

@Kit Johnson I'm not sure why they didn't just make it smaller and keep the crown at 3. IMO, that would have been the better move, but maybe large watches with crowns at 4 are popular in the Japanese market.

[@basicdose.9872]

Even Seiko 5 has crown placement at 4 o clock position. That is a Seiko thing.

[@cajanir]

@@basicdose.9872 Good point. Seiko's obsession with the crown at 4 reminds me of Orient's obsession with putting "Water Resist" on the face of their dress watches.

[@konidu971]

I agree, smaller diameter is a good way to go. I wish great watchmaking houses doing more sporty watches under 40mm.

[@hugohernandez3651]

🤔 If you really want a GMT Master II, this watch will not calm your desire...however, it is an absolutely gorgeous watch and can coexist with a Rolex in any collection.

[@lipinglin1994]

The thing with bigger watches is that they are great if they are sports watches. They need to get more visible when you are in the action, like diving, driving, flying an airplane. There is nothing wrong with wearing a larger watch if it is intended for that purpose. Daily wear watches for elegance and function should be slim, simple, and precise. The problem with modern watches is that they want to hit the sports watch category, yet the product by itself isn't. They just keep making them bigger and bigger and forget that there are those who have smaller wrist who also want to enjoy the product. A lug to lug of over 47 IMHO is just too big. Size over 42mm for a sports watch is enormous and serves no purpose unless you are flying some jetplane.

[@shiraz1736]

41mm the Goldilock zone.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

A clue for watch collectors who obsess over tiny case sizes - YOU ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WORLD AT LARGE.

[@mahmoudghoneim8004]

You have missed any details on the bracelet and its adjustability.

[@stephenagypt2814]

I absolutely don't agree! I am so tired of people trying to shrink watches down to women's sizes. I like my watch to be 44-46mm it is a perfect size for men's watches, that's when it feels like a good comfortable size. 42 is the smallest I ever want to see a watch.

[@haroldcastle]

put the Date window at six, the same blue color and I buy it !! great review, beautiful watch!!

[@Atombender]

No GS can be perfect without a Spring Drive.

[@dorsetdumpling5387]

Ah! This is where I have been going wrong all these years...I have no strategy for collecting watches. Also, no money.

[@dororo9479]

Love the skyline dial but it too big for my wrist.

[@off-roadingcars]

The reason I actually love this watch is BECAUSE it’s 44mm. I have a Rolex GMT and it’s too dainty for me, but this GS is perfect!

[@fancytyme]

I don't mind a date at 4, but I get why people dislike it. I really can't get over the 44mm, though. Almost all of my watches are 38-41mm and 44mm just feels enormous to me, especially with that lug to lug distance and thickness. Grand Seiko really specializes in making great watches marred by 1 or 2 obnoxious things (usually a power reserve).

[@kevinzh5898]

Size is a BIG factor

[@fire_watch7735]

I love the watch and have 8.5" wrists and even I felt it was too big when I tried it on... also oe reason why I ended up buying a GMT Master 2. Cheers and great video.

[@brandonnickerson8934]

Wise choice. My wrist is close in size, and my sweet spot is 40-42mm. I recently picked up a Seiko Flightmaster for $247, great watch. Perfect with a NDC strap.

[@garyggarner7738]

BEAUTIFUL TIME PIECE!! I WANT ONE!!

[@wagsbass]

Beautiful watch. I hate changing the date, I only like date windows on annual or perpetual calendars.

[@wheelsandwatches]

When will GS learn to make smaller sports watches. Even 42mm diameter and 13mm thick would be good.

[@charlieboylol527]

This is my next watch , I have 8.5 wrist .I love the dial , thanks

[@nancylove8360]

Grand Seikos are gorgeous

[@crzyruskie86]

Looks like a Rado Cpt Cook and a Rolex had a baby, I love it!

[@XHobbiesPrime]

I hate the date window at 4 and the crown at 4. Also 44mm is too large for me. 40mm is the perfect size for me. I agree it is almost perfect.

[@benficaM8888]

i love GS, but we have to be honest. We can't keep giving them blind compliments.. otherwise they'd never learn. and keep releasing sport watches in ridiculous sizes

[@rickhammel9541]

44mm is just perfect!

[@johnhealey6455]

Fantastic video! You did a great job showcasing this beautiful watch. I would love for you to do a video on the new Grand Seiko green sports GMT, SBGE295 which is my favorite release of the year.

[@SPQR-Z]

This is a very familiar theme amongst watch enthusiasts. Seiko and their monstrously oversized watches are their own worst enemy. Release this same watch in a 40-42mm diameter with a 47-48mm lug to lug and see the potential Rolex GMT buyers line up. Till then I will stick with the Rolex GMT and Subs all day despite the crap that goes along with buying Rolex SS Sports. It’s so obvious. Anytime a watch company releases a smaller version of a popular model it sells like gang busters. Think about the Tudor BB58 or the recent smaller Seiko divers. The big 9” wrist watch crowd is loud and vocal but the reality is most watch enthusiasts don’t want a 45mm tuna can size watch on their wrist. At the very least offer both sizes.

[@joeschmoe2624]

Maybe just hit the gym and grow those scrawny wrists

[@mb-watches]

The GS stands for its own, this is just a really beauty and well made. Would look great aside my gmt but as well stands on its own design vise. Great review as usual bro 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@davidb9531]

I genuinely don't get watch sizing like this, not to make ethnic generalisations but apparently the Asian Market still think bigger is better and that's why GS still make oversized watches, which I find doubly strange because apart from the odd Sumo Star surely the Asian Market generally are quite svelte in size of wrist. If someone can prove to me that a watch that looks oversized on most wrists is a good business strategy then fair play, to me it just strikes tone deaf of what the market actually wants.

[@ResumedPausing]

I think the market for those who want an oversized watch is bigger than the watch enthusiasts who want something smaller

[@davidb9531]

@@ResumedPausing maybe you're correct, I think there should be some kind of grounding in education required before people are allowed to spend over 1k on a watch

[@ResumedPausing]

@@davidb9531 I'd also like to add that with the age of the smartwatch going for larger sizes, potential buyers coming from smartwatches may feel more comfortable with a larger wrist presence since this is from their prior experience

[@davidb9531]

@@ResumedPausing I don't think anyone that has the audacity to wear a smart watch should be allowed to buy a mechanical watch, maybe that smacks of snobbery but I'm just trying to help all involved

[@ResumedPausing]

@@davidb9531 yeah that's some big time snobbery. Everyone's got their own starting point on their watch journey, whether it's from an Apple Watch to those fashion brands like MVMT

[@olivb2430]

Oh the steinhart ocean 2 have the same kind of look with some differences the date is at 6 and black window on the premium version, it's not a gmt and it's not half white and black but more like a diver an unidirectionnal bezel with a quarter black or white, it depends on the white or the black version, the bezel grip is a bit more "aggresive" on the steinhart, really like this GS and the Steinhart. Maybe the Steinhart is a bit smaller and thinner than this GS.

[@panagiotisstavrakis6274]

it looks great on your hand

[@kubectlgetpo]

Ya but not so much on wrist

[@milesblack8485]

I would remove the inner steel ring as it makes the bezel look to thick and the face small and out of proportion. I agree that the 4 o’clock position is not necessarily my first choice of position. Size wise I’m happy with it as I have a 7.5” wrist!

[@thetravelingnomad6203]

Another viable option to GMT II is the little brother or sister: Tudor Black Bay GMT. Size and date window issue solved.

[@MrMnmn911]

Nope. It needs to be smaller. 44mm is too big. The 4 o’clock crown bothers me more than the 4 o’clock date window.

[@kikomachine8276]

Damn it looks good!

[@sammyb.9682]

Love to get this model. Already have 3 GS, waiting to get a job first then celebrate with a new purchase.

[@willielarsson9651]

Do u get fed up explaining and justifying the price to people who don't really get watches.

[@mistermood4164]

do you have any 9f quartz? that's the movement I want to go for.

[@sammyb.9682]

@@mistermood4164 Nope, have 1 Spring drive which is nearest to quartz but better and more accurate.

[@MrKrekkie]

Great watch if they make it 40mm.

[@Babynutter]

I love it!

[@ryanbane]

No caseback B-roll? :(

[@SeagullWaterPurifier]

Absolutely awesome GS + hi beat nice size too...... it doesn’t have to compete with anyone

[@MasterChief37]

The case size is fine, but the bracelet clasp stops me cold, it shouldn’t be pressed steel, it should be milled steel.

[@xuben5313]

Looking forward to th white birch video! Thanks as always for the great contents!

[@stevefox8605]

Love it. Agree on the date, but prefer it at 4 than 3,tho 6 is better. Stunning. Cheers mate 👍🏻

[@sandimashigh]

My OCD can't handle the 1730 and 0630 color separation. It should be at 06 and 18

[@timothythomas1626]

I get Mirror Like Polishing on my Pagani Design . Cost $60 Dollars with Seiko Movement

[@keithgibson9801]

Again... great watch but ...... the size. When will these watch makers realise. 44mm what!!!

[@smyffmawzz]

NIce but regardless of wrist size , i think it's too big . I agree with you ; Make it 39/40mm ..Perfecto!! By the way . The GMT will , in 10 years time , have value .Sadly , the Seiko , as much as i like it .Won't . THAT alone is enough to sway the argument to Rolex .

[@dtm4trix]

I like the watch as well……but you’re right…..44mm is too big….they could have made it 40.5mm like the sbgm 245 or 247….that’s a shame as I would have bought this instead of the 245 previously mentioned.

[@underachievingwatchcollect1878]

Grand Seiko dimensions are too big in general as is this watch. I hate Rolex unavailability and price premiums but their designs are why they remain king 👑! Are big watches coming back and us collectors just not seeing it?

[@rickjason215]

I would get rid of the date window. I was going to call my AD and order a Sub without a date. Now you are making me think about going for another GS.

[@keitjongting3609]

To be fair you can still place the order. You got a couple of years to think about it afterwards before you get your sub.

[@rickjason215]

@@keitjongting3609 My AD said he would get me one, but until the watch is on the wrist, who knows? Also, GS usually sells at a substantial discount and I don’t have a Hi Beat watch.

[@jacc88888]

limited to people with large wrists. Don't quite understand why GS do this. The good thing about 40 or 41mm watches is that they work on more variety of wrist sizes including larger wrists.

[@happyfeat119]

Lovely watch, main disappointment is the poor lume on the hands ( yes lots of lume on the bezel, very pretty but not helping with at a glance time reading). Also only four indices have any lume at 12. 3. 6. 9 position. All 12 hour markers should have had a lume dot. I guess this only affects people with weak eyesight as nobody mentions the lack on hand/ baton lume on these watches. This is especially disappointing as Seiko lume on their budget watchers is excellent.

[@xuben5313]

Great vid and awesome watch, Would be better if u showed the Lum shot cheers

[@Peskarik]

Imagine this watch was 45mm and lugs of 22mm! THAT would be perfect. Ah, yes, and ticker sapphire crystal on the bezel, a-la-Blancpain style.

[@mattys1467]

Everything works for me 👌

[@rayn.2688]

No glass back???

[@richardtan322]

Awesome video. That’s a beautiful watch. Will definitely buy a GS Spring Drive one day. Have you reviewed the VC 1921?

[@adamethancrow]

Price? 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[@jimg518]

44mm is just too big and when that is the “case” everything else after that is a moot point, IMHO.

[@brooksreed9609]

I’m not too familiar with GS but why does the hour hand skip and not have a smooth movement when adjusting the time?

[@robertwallach550]

Grand seiko makes plenty of watches that are 40mm . Love the 44mm I have a 8 1/4 inch wrist

[@toonlad4091]

Gorgeous 😍 But why watch makers make the mistake of making their watches so big instead of either going down the middle with a 40mm or giving us options, does this show that they don't understand the market even after 100s of years of watch making?

[@brandonnickerson8934]

I'm confused as well. Unless oversized watches on men is a thing in Japan, IDK. I wonder if by design, they can't. I'm sure they have been trying to work on it behind the scenes.

[@jacc88888]

I've heard that in the middle east they like to wear watches as large as a small clocks on their wrist..... Maybe that's the lucrative market GS are aiming for. My barber is middle eastern and probably has wrists that are less than 6.5 inches yet wears a monstrously large watch that must be nearly 50mm in diameter! PS this is purely hearsay so would be interesting to hear from someone who actually lives in this part of the world. I'm probably talking cr*p!

[@slchoi2868]

Fatal problem: It is too thick, big and heavy

[@johnmqueripel2367]

44mm is perfect for me.

[@322kfunk]

44 is too big!!!! When are they gonna figure this out? It's not rocket science.

[@BVIAS]

She’s a beauty!

[@jamespalsson746]

Date and crown position is perfect. As many have stated, it is a tad bit too big.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

I’m the opposite, size is perfect. Date and crown should be at 3.

[@jamesmustin7289]

And you have power to establish perfection?

[@barneygermany530]

*Two problems with this watch:* 1. the GMT-pointer is in the same color of the others. No fast seeing the real time..your eyes must search for the wright pointer. *That's a no go* A colored GMT-pointer or the white triangle, with a dark bar, would change this 2. littlebit to big Thats all🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ronnied13]

Changing the size of a watch is not a minor thing

[@gfabie4901]

Nothing is derivative of the GMT master on this watch? How about the countershaded bezel?

[@rodpanhard]

What a beautiful watch, sadly way too big for my scrawny wrists.

[@racebannon3014]

The Batman is more comfortable on the wrist, much better lume w/ a significantly more robust movement. GS released the smaller GMT but I’ll keep my Batman...for now

[@joeschmoe2624]

What about the lume bezel? (;