This has to STOP!

Record companies need to stop 'lying' to us.
Metallica, Paul McCartney and MANY OTHER huge artists need to stop advertising their vinyl as Limited Edition when it clearly isn't! But they won't (especially McCartney ;) ).
We need honest advertising. As a record / vinyl collector… we don’t need to be fooled into buying special editions, coloured vinyl… we’re up for it! So stop the BS!
Tell me what you think.
#metallica #paulmccartney #muse #thebeatles

[@isolationdisorder]

The main problem is “ collectors” who are really “investors”. The hobby of collecting in most instances has been ruined by people who are not interested in the hobby at all, they are interested in making money. If humans were not so obsessed with money, none of this “limited edition”. shit would exist.

[@martymartin2894]

If greed didn't exist none of this would be happening. It's record labels and bands

[@AreJayCee]

The love of money is the root of all evil, supposedly.

[@IMAC1776]

The irony is all the investor collectors these days means, in most cases, the limited edition copies will rarely be worth a significant premium because so many investors have pristine copies. Back in the 60s nobody thought like that so if you have a pristine first edition of Please Please Me you are in the money or, to a lesser extent, Sgt Pepper but in 50 years there will be thousands of pristine copies of the latest releases.

[@KKKetamine]

Yea, Like Lao Tzu said “If you overvalue possessions, people will begin to steal.”

[@donald60s14]

I’m not defending the “limited edition” by any stretch. But I think the investors collecting vinyl just for making money and not caring about the vinyl itself is their own problem. Leave the vinyl collecting to people like me who does for the pure joy of having

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

This is one of the reasons why i pretty much stopped buying vinyl about 4yrs ago, this artificially limited coloured vinyl BS is insulting to our intelligence.

[@ELPCOTILLION-SD1970]

It's Not All Rubbish...

[@ploppill34]

There’s more than one of you?😂😂😂😂

[@Proceedtheweedian]

Stop buying vinyl because of limited editions? That’s no sense. People collect because of the format, not the exclusivity. If you’re one of those, glad you left the community

[@mikewilson3581]

I gave up on vinyl for good last year. It felt like an emancipation. In fact I got rid of a decent chunk of what I bought believing in the hype. I've gone back to my huge CD collection. All the money I've saved so far is great. Now I can spend the cash on what really matters to me: Guitars.

[@ELPCOTILLION-SD1970]

@@mikewilson3581 Sad...But Understandable...

[@onsenkuma1979]

Like Seinfeld said: limited to as many units as they can shift...

[@sensibill1]

I am glad that someone else is annoyed with this limited edition shite

[@crosswalklarry]

I used to work at the pressing factory that produced this record. Before Metallica bought into the company last year I helped with the And Justice For All box set a few years before. Unfortunately the company was toxic and I had to leave. They also kept dodging employee requests for a copy of the box set we busted out asses on for months. I am sure Metallica would have liked to know that. I heard eventually they gave copies to a few employees.

[@IKONtheband]

Coloured vinyl have been used as a selling point for a long ling time. But what's really got me now, is Taylor Swift releasing her new album with different bonus track this is next level must have. In the 90s CD singles had time restraints on them, when labels started doing part 1,2,3 etc which added up to sales relating to charting. Old tricks, re-hashed.

[@Willy_Elres]

Limited to the number of copies they think they can sell... On the plus side, it's *slightly* less vulgar than calling something a "Collector's Edition".

[@subtle704]

That second number could easily be 1337

[@ELPCOTILLION-SD1970]

Precisely...Handwritten Is Bloody Sketchy...

[@Ken_Dodds_Tickling_Stick]

Paint A Vulgar Picture by the Smiths 1987. Take a listen, it says it all.

[@SONIC-BOOM-TV]

Been alive since 1971 and anything collectible has been called "Limited Edition" or "Collector's Item" since before me.

[@seanwills4946]

My idea of limited edition is something that is limited to something like a 1000 or 5000 copies and thats it end of run. The word limited edition is bandied around on all sorts of releases, which you can still pick up years later.

[@ThundersMcCoy]

Remember when there was just the album & that was it? No re-issues, no remasters, no expanded with bonus tracks 6 months after initial release. The copy of of Sabbath's 1st LP we grew up with in the 80's was the same one they bought in '70.

[@donald60s14]

Not necessarily true, if any album or band is popular, it’s gonna have reissues. I have a copy of Sabbath’s Paranoid that was pressed in the late 70s/early 80s. The Beatles having dozens of reissues in the late 60s, 70s, 80s, and so on. So I don’t really understand your point lol

[@SONIC-BOOM-TV]

No, they always had repressings and remasters and whatever, people just didn't act like they needed every version like they do now.

[@lord_oblivion666]

Reissues are good. Remasters not so much. I also don't like it when they change the artwork or layout when they reissue an album, unless the new artwork or layout is actually great. The 20th anniversary edition of Pantera's Far Beyond Driven on CD had crap layout and photos. They should have used the cassette inlay from the mid 90s.

[@STV-H4H]

Remastering is now the only way an artist can gain more control over their music and sales. They can renegotiate their points with the distribution companies. Before I learned that I wasn’t as prone to repurchasing albums I already had. Though in many cases I am less than impressed with the remastering.

[@andys242424]

In the USA we’ll see limited edition products all the time. Mountain Dew soda will make a limited edition, Unless it’s popular. Then it becomes permanent. If it doesn’t sell, they’ll spin it that it was limited😂 a win win for that crappy product.

[@jamesoblivion]

A limited run that isn't numbered is immediately suspect. The real thing that bugs me, though, is every retailer having an exclusive edition of any given record in a different colorway. There doesn't need to be a different edition of an album for every major chain store/website that sells it. It's just lunacy.

[@TwinHat]

I'm pretty much done with limited editions and remixes on vinyl, especially for older music from the 60s and 70s. I tend to get the earliest pressings of the albums that I can get my hands on. They sound better usually anyway.

[@anthonyfrancis2374]

! love the Fabs for example but have never found the need to replace my original mono copies which I bought and grew up with during the cd era as I just can't get used to the sound of the modern reissues. I listened on Apple music but didn't like. This goes for most of my analogue recorded albums. I have replaced a few Stones albums with coloured vinyls and record store day releases as my originals were worn out the Stones for some reason don't seem to be that meddled with sound-wise to the extent the Beatle records have been.

[@TwinHat]

@@anthonyfrancis2374 Analog just has that warmth and clarity in the highs, mids and lows that digital re issues just seem to never quite get right. They either increase bass and think that will do. Or they lower the volume ha

[@seano218]

The Blue Note releases from Kevin Gray for Jazz sounds better than the originals.

[@forbeatssake1530]

As a life long record collector for over 30 years now I gotta say I really dislike colored vinyl. It’s usually hard to see the song separations of colored vinyl to cut the record and the wild colors make them look toyish and non-functional.

[@andrewcragg3460]

On a similar note, I saw the standard edition of the Last Dinner Party LP in HMV, flashed as 'midnight black vinyl' - like black now counts as coloured vinyl.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

I bet Midnight Black is an almost black blue. That Metallica vinyl I showed, I didn't realise it would just look black when i showed it to you! It doesn't look like that to the eye. I probably should have shone a light through it.

[@STV-H4H]

@@dinnerwithgreedo so black it’s not hardly even visible. Everyone considers the Black album to be only inspired from Niles describing their black album, but I believe that the writers took it from Douglas Adam’s Hitchhikers book where the space craft that was painted so black as to gather all light from the surrounding space that it itself was a black hole. That band was even louder and heavier than Metallica could ever imagine. But I’m not certain. But it’s still really fucking black.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

@@STV-H4HOr they got it from Spinal Tap (whom also had a black album).

[@STV-H4H]

@@dinnerwithgreedo that’s what I wrote. Spinal Taps writers took the idea indirectly from both a play on Beatle’s White Album as well as The Restaurant at the end of the Universe. Which was big back in the years preceding ST and their ‘black album. Which they described in the same fashion as the book wrote in that dialogue. Either Or, the parallel could be correct.

[@mrbeatlespro]

The two most overused words in collecting… Limited and rare.

[@MickSupper]

I see "rare" all the time in my business, which is buying and selling vintage furniture. Then you got the "very rare" and the "super rare".

[@Kingcarparpeggio]

@@MickSupper: I tend to think that stuff that is labelled like that is crap anyway because nobody much bought it back in the day.

[@mumbles215]

“Natural flavours”

[@mcsnapshot1]

This has been going on for decades. I remember when coloured and pic disc albums were being promoted as limited, then later finding the reality according to record collector values that an ordinary vinyl version could actually be the rarest. I remember back in the day when there used to be vinyls genuinely produced for radio play that would sometimes have an 'A' stamped on them that really were pressed in low numbers. Now that's what I would call limited.

[@abstractheory1]

I have tons of limited editions worth millions…MILLIONS!!

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Ha ha!! Me too!

[@JohnnyTheDoe]

Buy them because you like them, not because you think they're LE. This is not a problem unique to vinyl.

[@adrianvassallo5630]

I think Kate Bush has done the best thing with releasing her 2018 remastered vinyl records first one's out in 2023 on coloured vinyl with the pressing date on them as unlimited release

[@victorblack6995]

LIARS!!!! The only thing limited is my Patience with this kind of collector targeted mismarketing! Thank you Greedo for pointing this out. Cheers!

[@poetsdreamsatc]

Oh please talk about Paul McCartney being a con. How many times are his albums going to be colored vinyl and limited to …copies?

[@DanBarajas-k1v]

Have thought about maybe it's the record company doing that

[@brucegrossman3531]

When i still bought vinyl in the early 90's. Usually through mail order direct from indie labels (Estrus, Crypt, Merge and teenbeat). I had no clue if it would be colored or not. It was always a surprise. But i did learn one thing. Never do mail order from SST. What i ordered was out of print but still listed. They sent me a gift certificate to use at the then SST superstore. The issue was I lived on the East Coast and they are in CALIFORNIA.

[@thecolorgreen7046]

Early 80's I bought two SST cassettes while on a southern California vacation for the rental car. Both tapes were purchased brand new and had the wrong music on them. The Meat Puppets was actually Painted Willie, The Minutemen was some other SST band I forgot. Sent them with the receipt to SST and received nothing in return. No response, no replacement cassettes. ZERO. Whadda C#nt.

[@brucegrossman3531]

@@thecolorgreen7046 again only label I ever had an issue with. Forgot to mention it took forever to even arrive.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Well that sucks.

[@bv3bv334]

These days the whole vinyl industry is about ripping people off...including secondhand shops. Rocka-buy being a classic example. They market such obscure things on albums, as being the "one you want". First press bullshit, a label in a different colour, comes with a poster, etc. Utter rip-off.

[@adamcogan211]

I only buy coloured/collector’s vinyls if there is an actual print run disclosed (500/1000 copies for example) and only if it’s a colour I really like and/or a really special record to me. I’ll never buy a picture disc though!

[@sojaded]

I used to collect Metallica vinyl. It dawned on me one day in the 90s that they were absolutely taking the piss even back then, so I gave it up.

[@njuham]

And if they run out they can always press more.

[@daisysdaddy1]

Especially when you own your own pressing plant like Metallica do.

[@greyhoundude6112]

It's "limited" to the number of people who will buy it. I stopped collecting vinyl a few years ago thanks to this nonsense. I'm back to buying inexpensive CDs. I've decided that I'm more interested in the music than the format of the music.

[@madvinyl75]

At the end of the day people should only buy stuff they want limited or not. If you don't want it then don't buy it. Also I don't think the multiple coloured vinyl versions thing is a con, if there are multiple just buy the one you like the best, no one is saying you have to buy all of them.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

That’s true BUT they know that there are people that will buy them all (McCartney fans) and they take advantage of that.

[@stephenroberts8964]

I'm pretty sick of all the coloured vinyls flooding the market. Rarely is it black Vinyl these days. I know many will say, "so don't buy coloured" ...I don't. Years back coloured vinyls were limited, these days..."let's colour the vinyl and double the price". Just a little moan from me, nothing serious. Enjoy your day.

[@sethputnamsghost]

Absolutely agree bro.🤘

[@rogercarlson6300]

It seems like vinyl collectors are getting ripped off left & right. If you only care about the music, You can get the CD version for a hell of a lot cheaper, like $10 & the sound quality is the same.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

You’re right, CD’s obviously sound great. There is a certain warmth to vinyl however. Also… I started collecting records as I wanted something a bit more substantial (in size). Annoyingly, I didn’t realised ever bugger and their mum was gonna do the same and so the prices skyrocketed 🙄

[@paulnewsom4988]

The Biggest Problem I See Also 19.99 To 22.99 for A Singel Album to 38.99 for Any Double And People Thought CD,s Were Over Priced Mark Up Is Beyond Stupid

[@Hassebas88]

technically, everything is limited edition

[@twisted2291]

Limited or Exclusive editions are just a sales tactic. Or Cash Grab if you will. With new vinyl it is nothing more then a remastered pile of crap to extract money from you. 1st and 2nd pressings are a better value in the long run.

[@Hextrill]

That second numbered one could be 1337 or 1331, not the same 7 as in the first number. Still very similar, but theoretically it could be different... Are there more people who can compare it?

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

I’ll bring it up again in the next video I do about this. I do have a little update. I contacted ‘Metallica Corp’ and asked how it was limited.

[@BillAdams-fb3jm]

I don't understand why people care about limited edition records. I mean, I understand buying a copy of an album that you like or that you want, but why buy a multitude of the same one? After a certain point, "collecting" looks less like collecting and more like hoarding.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more!

[@Basslover157]

It’s simply Labels cashing in on the kids starting their whole collection since the whole popularity recently

[@cookiesontoast9981]

Well looking at more niche genres, limited really does mean limited. My favourite music of all time is Black Metal and Funeral Doom, sometimes the special coloured vinyl versions are only limited to 30-100. Depending on the band, if they're small, sometimes even the regular black version is just as limited. Though obviously the bigger bands will be in production a lot more, but still far less than more mainstream genres.

[@Mark-Gillis]

Nice curtains!

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

😂😂😂 You sarky bastard!! 😂😂😂

[@jerryskid420]

When America and Great Britain start making good music again instead of selling out to commercial BS, some good genuine music that makes it beyond all that. Then this will stop. Unfortunately, we don't have good music anymore. Once the musicians pull their heads out of their butt and quit trying to get famous and just try to make good music that reaches the soul, maybe it can be fixed. I know it can be but it's just got to be done.

[@dg4846]

That`s how world looks like. Sad but true :( But the best cheating comes on Record Store Day. I bought several copies of ltd vinyls in a blind belief that they are really ltd. And the most "depressing" is that I overpaid. Now, the same albums are cheaper on the market, possibly without hype sticker RSD Ltd :) That`s now I rather am not taking part in this.

[@AnthonyWhitewwfilms]

I worked at the last Metalica show in Argentina. They are not a band anymore. It’s a complete business. All they care about is making money.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

I don’t mind that (to a point). It’s the fleecing of fans I don’t like. McCartney and Metallica do not need to charge as much as they do for their concert tickets (for example). They’ve made enough money to live extremely comfortably. So take a hit on the ticket prices will ya!!

[@AnthonyWhitewwfilms]

@@dinnerwithgreedo Dude I feel the same about R.E.M. Big fan for years. They started to release reissue of reissues!!! There has been at least 4/5 “special’ editions of Out of Time and Automatic. Being the fool I am I bought them!

[@fishactivation5087]

I don't really understand why different colors would be so enticing.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Coz it’s different and a bit unique.

[@fishactivation5087]

​@@dinnerwithgreedoYeah, but unless you're listening to exclusively vinyl, your records are just gonna be sitting on the shelf most of the time. I recently went to Best Buy and found out that Orgy's first two albums finally got vinyl pressings. They said they were one in 500 each, for nearly forty bucks. I went to the website for the guys that pressed them and found out that I could get the same albums for barely over half the price. Exact same albums, just a different color. Do I feel like a lesser being because my copy of Candyass has a red and yellow splatter instead of being the 1-in-500 pure orange? Not one bit.

[@billybeck]

They're records, albums or LPs... Vinyl? 🙄 I was buying whole collections for buttons when everyone was into CDs, now I'm buying CDs for buttons now everyone is buying nonsense like this.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Ha ha!! Mate… I tell myself off every time I say vinyl. It pisses me off too!

[@bigfart275]

I realized years ago that when a release is limited to numbered copies, they actually make about 100-however many extra in case somebody's copy has a defect in it and wants an exchange. Then after that they either just sit in the warehouse or get sold somewhere else, guessing that's what happened with Muse, thinking they couldn't get rid of their extra copies so they sent you another one

[@missbonekittyasylum3715]

Good video! Limited Editions means milking the cash cow. How many copies of an album do you need as a "listener"? Red vinyl, bonus tracks, expanded edition, yellow vinyl, splatter vinyl, box sets with books,...etc. It's not about the music, it's about owning it. That's why musicians drive expensive cars and live in villas, while the fan drives a Nissan and lives like chickens in a pen. Examples? Kiss, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Pink Floyd, AC/DC,....and and and. *One record player and 386 variations of a single album?* Think about it!

[@YourNewBuddy]

lol, to me, “limited” is 100 or less made. A couple discs I own are from 25-30 made.

[@ianhumm531]

Kiss have been doing it for years

[@Ft.Gagiano]

I'm probably the only peson who still listens to the beatles 1987 cd box set. I knever cared for the 2009 remasters.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

You should at least give the remixes a listen. I really like them.

[@pingmanok]

Same situation in the car industry, If it’s made to be collectible-it’s not!

[@NickHintonMusic]

Limited Unlimited Remastered Deluxe Exclusive Worldwide Walmart Edition.

[@schillinger7814]

"Die Hard" as well mind.

[@jakegarcia7156]

I have box sets that there only 150 made, albums in very limited pressings, editions compared to pressings are quite different, but I feel for you it’s ridiculous

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

I don’t care they do it. I just think the rule should be, if you’re saying it’s limited, you have to say why? Be it numbers or time available.

[@giovannisynthesis]

Music is music. If a re-release comes in digipack or color vinyl I’m definitely buying it and enjoying my music.

[@j_vasey]

I think the 7337 may have been in relation to your name/order number company have misplaced the note saying it had been sent, judging by the scrawl it was rushed. Person perhaps didn’t file correctly and computer states you don’t have one. Second one comes with the number that was allocated at order. I believe doing it blank/8000 just means they can grab any one of the disks write your number and voila 7337/8000, would be interesting if you returned as damaged what number you’d get if any. I try to give benefit of doubt where I can and I’ve heard of this happening through a mate band.

[@STV-H4H]

A couple days ago I went to a very interesting record and music electronics type place. Seeing all the old vinyl records was an interesting thing. Seeing also the repackaged albums that were so blatantly labeled in ways that made the potential buyer feel that they had to “buy it right now!” was the reminder of why I won’t be buying such things. I’m old. I have LPs I bought new in the 70s and even the 80s. In my collection I have some stuff also from garage sales, pawn shops, thrift stores etc. Also being an old (vintage) guy I remember very well the days when CDs began taking over the market. Claiming to have absolute pure sound. At that time, circa ‘85ish, I didn’t have any money to spend on CDs, all my money went to beer and I important stuff. I already had in excess of 5-600albums. My friends that did have the cash, all rushed out and bought whatever CDs were being sold. Many were just reprints of Zeppelin and such. They hey also had the money to afford a CD player. One and all, skipped as bad or worse than a turntable. Skipped, and chattered and were mostly just not too impressive. But the real immediate thing that was missing was he artwork. Shitty tiny reproductions of the art that often was what made buying a new Aerosmith or Rush album so special! But my actual reason for this response is about the collectors edition nonsense. That store had an 18 piece vinyl collection of the first Rolling Stones albums. Up to Let It Bleed. There was a last title, something I’ve never heard of, so it must’ve been the presumed gem or something to be extra special. Also, colored vinyl. A boxed package and so forth. The store owner was polite, and got it down for me to see up close. His sudden reaction of surprise was noted: “oh this is a limited edition number” xxx/1 billion or some bogus number, probably actually 1000. All I wanted to see was which album was supposedly the 18th. The Stones have a lot of records. I know, up until Tattoo You I have every single one, vinyl, most also on CD. and nearly all on a hard drive in varying compression rates, depending on it I ripped them from CD or LP myself, or were given them along the way. Also in my collection are about 100 Zeppelin boots. Some genuine forgeries from disreputable venders in the 70s, most from “reputable” pirates that scored original tape recordings that knew someone at a record pressing factory. These can be very well made or truly shoddy, but they are in fact proper limited pressings. At least in the sense that they weren’t mass produced by Atlantic or Warner or whatever, with the art department marketing team crating this shit to mislead the morons with more cash than sense. Anything mass produced and called limited edition is simply marketing. That Stones box set was upwards of $1000 I believe. I should’ve checked the price. My last purchase of Physical Graffiti, new, on vinyl set me back around $15 probably. I have the original double boxed jewel case CD set, I think I paid around 20 in the 90s. My remastered version was about $20 as well. Each has its pros and cons. The heavy vinyl versions of such albums seem to be a pretty solid choice, though I don’t own any. That store was selling old copies of that record for $59! They were presumably in very good condition. I didn’t inspect them. Mine are all in fully intact shape, original inner sleeves etc. I’m just bragging at this point in this comment I’m still observing your frozen image of you displaying the Metallica black album. Which brings me to Metallica. Lars is no slouch when it comes to merchandising his brand. I’ve learned that there are easily THOUSANDS of Metallica licensed products. To my way of thinking they are worth less than the plastic they are made from simply because they were made officially. Lars is a marketing tool that other tools can use to further their brand. A complete dick. No one in the old school Metallica vein of followers should be particularly proud of his two faced BS. They made their mark using pirated content from the start. I love their work, at least most of it. I recently preordered the ‘72 cd and was stoked to hear it. But when I heard it, I wasn’t remotely impressed after I heard the entire thing. Every track seemed to be the near same thing, just different notes and whatever. None of the song to song massive theme was there. I played that disc 3-4 times in hopes to make it sound better. It just was more of the same. Same for many of their later releases. That’s more than I expected to write. Off my soapbox and I’ll watch the rest of the video

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Ha ha. Thank you for your comment. Nothing wrong with getting on your soapbox from time to time.

[@AreJayCee]

Limited as in 4 million printed instead of 5 million

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Ha. Probably.

[@cmeflywva]

I love McCartney, but his marketing overload needs to stop. People have said they don't think McCartney is the ones making the decisions about the marketing. McCartney would never allow anyone to make any decisions about his finances without his direct input. You're absolutely correct about McCartney producing multiple versions of the same album release to try and reach the top of the charts and make more money than he normally would with a release cashing off of his legacy. The trunk set for his third or fourth version of Egypt Station was the epitome of greed and taking advantage of his fans. In my opinion, it cheapens his legacy. People have purchased his archive collections and are still waiting for albums released in the 70s. He said in an interview that he was disappointed with the sales of the last two. Flowers In The Dirt boxsets had download cards for some materials and not actual physical cds, and his last one, Flaming Pie, had one version that was selling for $400. It was a larger box with an extra print from one of Linda's pictures. A couple of years after the release, the sets were still available on his website. They may still be there. My guess is one of the reasons he has released any additional solo products is because of all of the recent Beatles remixed releases. He knows where the big money comes from and doesn't want to saturate the market too much and not sell as much of his product, which again would decrease his ranking on the charts. He recently released his third version of the original album, Band On The Run from 1974 with an "underdubbed" version. I don't understand all of the different Taylor Swift rereleases and special editions, but I'm not a fan of hers. The bottom line is if these artists release these special editions of the same products with variations of some sort such as every colored vinyl one could possibly imagine, or re-release the same albums remixed and/or added songs it's up to them but I think over time the public will get tired of it and with the case of McCartney tarnish their legacy a bit. It's people's decisions, and as long as they're buying, the artists/record labels are going to churn them out.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Great comment. Thank you.

[@pnichols6500]

I can't argue with what you said, the only thing I can add is that no one's forcing us to purchase any of this, so they are free to release whatever they want, and I'm free to not buy any of it. But yes, it does seem out of hand.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

@@pnichols6500 That is true... we are not forced to buy anything.... BUT the fact is that there are people who will buy everything and the record company clearly knows and takes advantage of that.

[@TheKatpurz]

EVERY ALBUM EVER was produced in limited quantities ;) I agree with you - if you're not NUMBERING them, then don't even say limited edition.

[@MickSupper]

Well, he got too of the same albums with the same quantity number, so what does that tell you? Does the number actually mean that it was printed in that order, or is it purely random?

[@peterkarlsson1825]

Only buy limited Flac files.

[@matthewbartolotti1475]

Love this video! Nice Beatles in Mono set in the background too.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Thank you. I do a show where I try and find the best covers of Beatles songs, so I keep the box out most of the time as I always stick the relevant album in the background. Crazy how much it costs now though. Jeez.

[@Downhuman74]

I have a hard time getting upset by a lot of this. Metallica has kept the price down on these Wal-Mart exclusives here in the States - and I took my time snatching all of them up. Was even able to grab the Garage Days colored vinyl from a few years ago in the used market for regular price - still sealed (BTW, that was NOT one of the Wal-Mart exclusives). But....they did the exact same thing with the second half of their catalog in 2021/2022 and those editions are nowhere to be found anymore. Truly limited, it seems. Weird.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

I’ve got Death Magnetic on pre-order.

[@PrankZabba]

Just think of all those limited edition albums by artists no one wants that are constantly being found in the cheap bins at thrift stores. Does that make Dick Nolan or Harry Hibbs albums also limited edition?

[@Danbvlogs]

If that was the blood record edition I think based on what they’ve said on socials, it’s because they allocate your number when buying it to help track and stop people buying then reselling straight away, if they see you advertise that number on eBay or whatever with a huge markup they ban you from buying again.

[@boldporcupine]

That's why I like Can's album entitled "Unlimited Edition".

[@STV-H4H]

Quickly: calling something limited. 500K is gold. Thats a big big seller. It used to be the best of the best. These days it’s almost enough to make the label consider the act as relevant. Platinum is a million. No small feat. Limiting a unit to be fobbed onto the gullible fan should mean 1K as a proper actual number. But I am certain that if 1000 units are shifted, another 10k will be pressed. The likelihood of two units with same number meeting is infinitely unlikely, unless they are ALL a copy of each other. As my example. I have a black porcelain statue of Led Zeppelins Presence monolith. I first saw one when the first time I met Roger Fisher at his studio in 1996 I believe. I saw it and was blown away! Before so much as stared at it in immediate proximity (he had it displayed on his mixing desk I think) I had to ask him about it. His story, being that he’s, in my mind, almost as godhead as Mr Jimmy himself, well, not really, but Heart (the first legit albums) are the only band that has the highest integrity as a Zeppelin esque band that’s ever existed. As demonstrated when you watch Anne and Nancy perform for the gods themselves at that prestigious event. But Roger told me his story about the statue. I spent the next few years, this was the early days of WWW and regular people getting onto the net. I scored myself a slightly blemished Presence monolith. With a hand scribed number of /1000 units. (243/1000) I don’t absolutely know if it’s genuine. But it is to me. All the etching from the mold is sharp and precise, so it doesn’t have the indicators of being mass produced. I have SEEN actual real ones, but they weren’t able to be held in hand. Aside from Roger’s, which given his stature in rock musics hierarchy I am confident he has a real one with a very low number. I wish we were still friends. We skied together a few times. But he was more into boarding, and I broke an ankle the following season and fell out of touch.

[@Ryan-jz4fe]

Buy for the music, not for what it physically is. That's my moto, and it makes me happier lol

[@VonHayes9]

If slapping “limited edition” sells more, why would the record company or retailers change anything? It’s the consumers responsibility to be educated when they are buying for speculative value over just to listen to it.

[@tobyjackman3212]

They saw you coming, pal. Record store day was a good intentioned wheeze that I bought into for 2 or 3 years, but I feel it's responsible for ripping a lot of fans off wholesale. This cynical crap is why I generally seldom spend money on new products nowadays

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Don’t get me started on record store ‘day’!!

[@mikemcconville2495]

You fell for their marketing tactics until you didn’t

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

I knew it wasn’t ‘limited’.

[@derkonner7412]

When I started to collect vinyl, I thought everytime "I have to be quick. This reissue is limited." After a view years I realized that it is marketing bullshit. Records will always be reissued, we have to be patient, that`s all. So: No fear of missing out is the way to go. :) Nice channel btw. Have a nice day!

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Thank you so much!

[@mark_beastpriest5539]

Buying an album you already own because it's a different colour is a colosal waste of money.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Not if you prefer coloured vinyl AND have sold the black vinyl already. Sooooooo……

[@TrevyTrev-andTheFunkyPets]

I recently bought Rush’s Moving Pictures on a red vinyl at Wal-Mart for $30. I was more than ok with it. They are totally cashing in on the limited colored vinyl craze.

[@asicdathens]

I began buying vinyls because I am a huge Vangelis fan (I am also from Greece) . I bought some really limited pressings of his work (like 500 in total). The reason I buy vinyls is not to listen to them because I firmly believe that digital audio is much better than vinyl but rather support the artist. Besides vinyls have a lot more real estate for things that are usually hidden in a CD jewel case or nonexistent in digital streaming formats like photos and booklets.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Thanks for your comment. It has got the thinking, that’s for sure. Digital audio is much better in many ways and half the time I’ll listen to that over the ‘fuss’ (it isn’t much fuss but I’m lazy) of playing it on a vinyl record. BUT when I want to truly immerse myself in the music… I go to vinyl. So I don’t really disagree with what you say BUT they both have strengths. And yes, support the artist, coz let’s face it, digital music is usually streamed or illegally downloaded.

[@clintonlujan1452]

The concept of limited edition on reissue vinyl records is being misleading

[@wasiuuu1]

you know how it works - people to people doing this - oh yeah they will never know we are made from the same bone of course we will know 🙂 thanks for your thoughts on this

[@carjo512]

it's all about the hype to sell more records

[@clemlowes9417]

There are some people who barely have two nickels to rub together yet they will find a way to give their favorite artists hundreds of dollars to buy an album they already own except it has a fancy book inside and fake old ticket stubs. Always been a hard pass for me.

[@kuplung22]

Hand written numbers.

[@90sArchive]

The problem with Blood Records (the place you got your Muse record from) is that they are actually limited and once they sell out, that's it. I hate their zoetropes though, they don't even work with the human eye and they're picture discs. Junk

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

It is one of my regret purchases. And I get to regret it TWICE!

[@Zholobov1]

Maybe it’s 1373?

[@Grassy_Gnoll]

Metallica? Well, there's your problem right there! A band that attempted to sue their own fans did something greedy? I'm shocked! Shocked I say! 😲

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

I don’t think they sued their own fans… it was more about not wanting their music given away for free. Which is understandable. And look where we are now… artists get fractions of a penny on every download/stream and it costs well over £100 to go see any of them.

[@utubepass101]

A limited album should be limited to previous un released songs that didn't make the original pressing and limit and number it , then you truly will have a limited album

[@jesseseogeek]

Unless it’s a smaller band or the pressing is under 5k, it’s definitely not a limited edition and I’m in no rush.

[@mradriankool]

Limited editions are like plastic surgeries. They cost a lot of money, they do nothing for the owner/patient but the queue of people willing to part with their cash for them never gets any shorter.

[@thegrouchycynic]

You make many valid and sensible points in this vid, but there's one big problem, us the consuming public and our behaviors as such. You can ask for businesses to change marketing terms, to be more "honest", but as long as you have the attitude that you'd still buy it anyways if they did, as long as these lame, tired practices they engage in, you know advertising something as Limited, Ultimate, Special, or Anniversary edition, net positive results from their perspective, these companies are still going to continue on with these tactics. Why not if they continue to work? They work because we, the purchasing public allow ourselves to fall for them, to be gullible. I whole heartedly agree with the overall points you made, but, and speaking as someone with almost 30 years in various levels of Retail Management, if you or I are hoping for them to change their approach to us, then we're in for a great deal of disappointment. The business is operating from a profit mindset pure and simple, which has nothing unfortunately, to do with anything near integrity, honesty, and respect for the consumer. As long as they can dangle this stuff in front of us with the tired methods of hype they use and they get a response, they're just going to continue doing it, because from their perspective it works. It is our fault as consumers not the companies for all we see and experience with this garbage, sadly. We need, all of us as consumers, to have stronger self and impulse control. We need to learn not to jump every time something comes out with the outsized hype surrounding it and just ignore it.The only way to get the attention of a business is their pocket books, that's the only weakness they have, the only thing that hurts them. As long as they have in their minds proven results and these days any number of people on a variety of social media platforms, like this one, hyping up these things, which for them is basically free advertising, we're going to keep seeing and having to deal with this stuff as consumers. Solid points though in the vid.

[@ChildrenAtLakeBodom]

They do the same thing with CDs, a limited edition CD will look like a carbon copy of another pressing of the same album, except maybe there're some bonus tracks or it's a double disc

[@josephmantineo1376]

Great video!!! I LOVE when you go off on the Marketing from Paul McCartney I LOVE Paul also but see through it all to. Great Video keep them coming take care!!!

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

Thanks so much!

[@xenomorph6665]

First time watching. Your right as rain. I promise I’m the future not to get you started on Paul McCartney.

[@dinnerwithgreedo]

GOOD!! DON’T!! 😡 😉

[@slowpawstevet3676]

the market is currently swamped with such a plethora of double coloured vinyl ltd edition reissues costing £35 - £80+ its enough to send you back to buying cd's !!!! ....mind you, those extra tracks do look very tempting ...(-;

[@the33rpm]

Only buy 1st pressings and only buy the music you like. Coloured vinyl generally is a no no. All vinyl is limited as they only press for a limited period of time, even standard editions.

[@tonyeamon5118]

Maybe they pressed 8000 of each number. 🤔

[@jaycoleman8062]

With a few exceptions for the legends, which shall remain nameless as it is very subjective, I use the trifecta method on a lot of artists because there is so much great music out there to discover. I might have a handful of those limited editions, but they were vinyl I didn't have.

[@Coastersandpop]

I’ve stopped buying vinyl if it isn’t clear how many copies define the limited edition otherwise I just don’t believe it any more

[@DON666]

I'll buy a vinyl - no matter if limited or not - if I like the music. And yes, I even put 'em on the turntable and listen to them! Because I don't sell my stuff to make more money of it, it just doesn't matter to me.

[@theStranger666]

Yes, beware of limited editions, not only in vinyl but CDs and books where they charge phenomenal prices. I am not a number... Like your style of presentation. Reminds me of Ricky Gervais a bit. 😂 Don't get me started

[@JimKnight-x8y]

This is the record companies revenge on the digital streaming era losing money

[@lookslikerocknroll58]

Not only vinyl. The Doors Live at the Matrix cd , was allegedly limited to 21,000 WORLDWIDE. It's still available in HMV stores.

[@lorentoy1994]

I bought those same Metallica LP's from the Sound of Vinyl UK website. It was only after I received these that I realized they were basically the same pressings as the Walmart exclusives. False advertising.

[@werepanda489]

This, unfortunately, is the way EVERY hobby that involves something "collectable" goes. This is the same nonsense that almost destroyed the comic book industry in the 90's. Before too long, they will get the idea that outer cover art variations should be a thing too. "Limited edition Wally World exclusive 3D gold foil hologram with scratch and sniff sausage odor"! It just keeps going until the only buyers left are either wealthy or flippers. The only new vinyl I buy now, are new releases from old bands or something that is too expensive for me to find an original.