This INSANE Marsh start is why I always roll the dice - Civ 6 Maya

[@soyfya5396]

Wow you could go for Etemenanki! You basically never do that!

[@minhnghinguyen126]

This made me laugh so hard after his birthday stream

[@Tenisinspector8341]

@@minhnghinguyen126ikr? The speed at which he clicked restart after barbs overran his lands and cucked him from Etemenanki

[@snomcultist189]

I mean it was a short stream though, it was crazy how he won on the first start!

[@ussxrequin]

That was so great. I loved whichever one civ he played as, it was so good and he won omg. He basically never goes for Etemenanki.

[@Sephyrulz]

I’m so glad to see a non-modded game once in a while! As a console player, these experiences feel much more relatable.

[@carlosmartinezcaballer8203]

Non modded and no gamemodes is the way. It is the real civ6 experience and you are not missing that much. :)

[@mapmanley]

I want the mods to come to console somehow, the game starts to get boring after a while, I’d like to be able to change more things more frequently

[@carlosmartinezcaballer8203]

@@mapmanley you'll also get addicted to mods. Im a weak "Quick Deals/Detailed Tacks/Policy Cards Extended" user compare to the average just "Plan it on your head" console gigachad

[@crystalwalters3348]

I do both. Sometimes I prefer console because I like the challenge of 'winging it' but I wish they would have the new leaders for ps5

[@patriciaboggs8882]

As a console player I wish they would fix the bugs where it constantly crashes and you can never finish a game. More mods and updates would be awesome but at this point I'd go back to the basic version if it actually worked.

[@OvertlyEsoteric]

looking at the two locked in woods tiles being worked while a marsh lies dormant is the kind of that that triggers a desire to restart in my own games when I do something like it

[@crossfire340]

Imagine being the person at Firaxis that gets to decide which people get in to be the Great People. Straight up spending days reading about scientists or merchants on Wikipedia would be so sick.

[@TampaBayGator20]

Wow, what a brutal start as Maya to have the majority of the tiles within the 6 tile limit be desert and tundra. And congrats on the Etemenanki build, the few times I’ve played on Deity it’s always been built somehow by turn 40

[@l0kpcr397]

With all the buffs the AI gets on Deity that’s par for the course

[@Aoltooliol]

I find that Etemenanki is one of those wonders that the AI either rushes or never gets at all, like the Apadana or the Hanging Gardens

[@izzyjamm4]

And turn 40 AI oracle😭

[@slwrabbits]

​@@Aoltooliolthis must be why I manage to build Hanging Gardens but, like, nearly nothing else

[@LAZERAK47V2]

I'd argue that Canada is also a civ that wants a Builder immediately, because Tundra tiles are total ass until they get improved.

[@fireskull4084]

You're a better man than me Potato, I would've instantly reshuffled the second I saw desert 😭

[@snomcultist189]

Desert op, pyramids and Petra

[@fireskull4084]

@@snomcultist189 I would agree, but Mayans rely on plantations and farms for their Campuses. The desert is the worst terrain for that.

[@stephencnunez]

I just reload when I get a coastal start with Maya so I appreciate your efforts to make it work.

[@hellcy7237]

"I bet there were people screaming at their screen" You betcha.

[@wifeofanacrobat3654]

Also, a fun fact - your capital city is located in such way, that you could build all 4 'Petras" - marsh (Etemenanki), desert(Petra), tundra(St. Basil's) and water(Mausoleum) and all of them will improve 2-3 tiles around it so will be +/- okay

[@UncleGwendolyn]

Great catch. This has to be the way Spud plays it from here.

[@LoudWaffle]

I'd love to see this pulled off just for the memes.

[@ethantoth5770]

You forgot about rainforest 'petra' - the chicken pizza 😢

[@Catman_CM]

And Huey Teocali D:

[@xXPerryCraftXx]

Hey Potato thanks for getting back with Civ6. Recently bought it and watched your older vids and they’ve really helped me!

[@JustSome462]

Ngl i absolutely love the marshes pantheon + etemenanki combo, it turns marshes from tiles that are decent at best into powerhouses

[@pg3wg]

I actually just did this with Caesar with Rome being almost all Marsh tiles and it worked great. Is there any late game benefits to help them more?

[@RMCbreezy]

It is a good pantheon but i like to chop marsh

[@rushi5638]

settling near the coast when all your cities need to be within 6 tiles cuts off ~half your options, plus desert to the north and tundra to the south. yeesh.

[@aesaidauroria3458]

You don't get silk from spiders, you get it from Silkworms. Just a friendly FYI :)

[@Beach_Boomer]

Another friendly FYI: You actually can get silk from spiders, it's more uncommon but it's definitely a thing! 😉

[@matimele1]

No?

[@aesaidauroria3458]

@@Beach_Boomer Can is different then actually done for a luxury trade :P Though maybe in Civ where you control the advancement of an entire nation from stone age to modern you could refine the art of spider-silk farming techniques...makes me think of making Shelob from LOTR into a silk farm xD.

[@badbirb5698]

This got me from listening casually to super focused...

[@dutyfreeadventures5924]

Just w friendly FYI - I typically get silk from the fabric store. I imagine in Civ you're coming across fabric store villages you're exploiting ;)

[@davidcates2639]

Wow potato! You went for Etemenanki! I'm so surprised - you go for it about as rarely as you go for the Venetian Arsenal! Also - when Venetian Arsenal?

[@justinsinke2088]

Hmm...Maya sounds like it wants to settle inland and then surround that central core of the capital with all its cities. You don't want to spread too wide to avoid the penalty, and there's no extra benefits for settling your capital on the coast. Something like a spoke and wheel look. Though I guess the quality of terrain tiles really does dictate it more.

[@RMCbreezy]

Her and she Kongo have that debuff. It just irks me like im already settling a snow city for iron or oil really its gotta be shittier?

[@Jfrost9101]

@@RMCbreezy Tbf with Nzinga Mbande you can still 100% go wide build, because it's based on continent rather than tile radius With Lady Six Sky you're just shite outta luck though yeah

[@frankiecedeno3724]

I don’t get the half grassland Petra. I can honestly say I’ve lost Petra on Deity Ai maybe 2 times with a city with only desert in all three city rings. All it takes is a couple of good trade routes.

[@chrisolsen09]

Agreed. It pained me to see so many desert hills going to waste. Could have settled a new city in the middle of the desert and had a god tier Petra.

[@rickeyrat9132]

me opening my computer: COME ON POTATO me open my notifications tab: YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS

[@jman2050]

Love you moving the second city away from the third ring desert floodplain wheat 😂 Seems someone forgot about the other part of that pantheon…

[@wifeofanacrobat3654]

Btw, regarding Etemenanki - it is missing in the World Wonders tier list video as it have been done before Maya pack introduction (same for Paitity for Natural Wonders tier list and Hulche for Unique units etc.), i'd suggest to redone or at least extend those 3 tier list videos with all the missing items

[@fanthonyfictions]

I wish someone would make a mod so Era Score carries over *Era ends next turn* Era Score 59/60, same as the last million turns. With an empire that's full, cultured and happy. Game: Oh, that's a shame. Too bad. *Era ends in 100 turns* Era Score 197/75 Me: Game.... Game: Hey, you um... stepped on a happy Tile! Here's another 5 Era score! Me: GAME!

[@moochcat8439]

I love the random starts without the other games modes on.

[@rozzg353]

These videos are addicting, can't not hop into Civ 6 after watching.

[@CodenameRockerika]

Potato talking about silk spiders got me having a Pavlovian deep memory recall from childhood of the Silksteel Alloys tech quote from Alpha Centauri. "Until quite recently, spider silk had the highest tensile strength of any substance known to man, and the name Silksteel pays homage to the arachnid for good reason." Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Scientific Survey"

[@tomgoodacre8615]

I'd give more thumbs-up for this if I could...

[@hitronica]

Potato: reroutes builder to get Magnus chops in capital. Also Potato: Forgets to establish Magnus in capital. My lowkey favorite part about the reload is that you fixed an optimization faux pas. in the scrapped turn... the Tribal Village gave you the Mysticism Boost literally right before you founded a Pantheon.

[@stecon5]

1. Love when you just play these regular games 2. LOLd so hard about Etemenaki 3. I was the one yelling at the screen when you took plantation pantheon, was so happy when you reloaded. Just really enjoying the content right now :)

[@DaRealKakarroto]

Wouldn't a pure petra city here be much better? Like, one just barely inside the capital 6-tile border but grabbing much more desert than Wak Kab'nal?

[@ジャン-エリック]

I just had a deity game as Germany on huge Primordial map, where I had an insane amount of marsh tiles not just around my capital, but for my next 6 cities or so too, and I somehow managed to get Etemenanki too (+ Lady of Reeds and Marshes). Felt weird being 3rd in science right from the beginning and becoming 1st very quickly too.

[@jdRamza]

Etemenanki and the Pantheon that gives Marsh +2 production is very fun when you have enough tiles and can pull it off. Pop skyrockets with the production/science to support. Just had both in a multiplayer game with friends.

[@PrimeAesthetic]

He said My Island....Now I'm forever going to associate this series with Braveheart lol.

[@tangodospassos]

This reload into Etamananki is why I hold off commenting until I've finished a video because it sure as hell was tempting to go haywire in the comments the moment you finished Writing and didn't go for it

[@gurbangulyberdymukhamedov9457]

the esoteric joy of the Marsh Build and the excessive difficulty of securing Etemenanki on diety is one of those things that keep me going back to lower difficulties, just so I can set it up somewhat more consistently. Of course, even on emperor, it tends to make the game very trivial from the classical era onward, especially if your wetlands also have multiple copies of rice or sugar.

[@Deamon93IT]

Now we know that Potato will go on about Etemenanki until the end of the game :D nice catch btw, considering how much of a longshot it was!

[@LamentingEnemy]

Excited for this series! The Maya are my favorite civ!

[@RMCbreezy]

Why?

[@Zesprit15]

With all that terrible land you could also get snow Petra in addition to water Petra, desert Petra, and marsh Petra.

[@cinnamonbeardstud]

YAY. Maya has become my favorite lately.

[@clamor95]

😂 yes there were people who screamed "do not do that!", I have almost shut the video, but thanks God you reloaded

[@fishraposo7192]

FINALLY SOME GOOD AND OLD MAYA ACTION

[@Jusdro]

Absolutely worth resetting for that Lady of the Reeds and Marshes + Marsh Wonder stack

[@CIIZARmusic]

The settler thing makes sense. If you put out the settler let's say 5 turns before the next pop arrives, I would say the loss accumulates for each turn, which in retrospect will reduce production per turn hence stalling the next pop. Considering this and extrapolate in onto the later game, the deceleration of production in total, it would make sense, that a certain amount of optimisation would be beneficial. I would like to see a video about this topic, or a short... well, also to find out how far away I'm with my assessment :D

[@niallbennett9582]

Potatomcwhiskey since when so many mistakes you worked not as good tiles in the capital still you are the cive god thx for making civ content means the world

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

I'm not gonna lie, with all those marsh tiles, I was about to rage click off the video when you initially didn't get the marsh pantheon and start building Etemenanki lol glad you came to your senses.

[@WizardHuntingWright]

To be in the way is the warrior's way, one could say.

[@robertocalderon1584]

I always go for "Lady of the Reeds and Marshes" along with Entemananki...I play with the settings on "Wet" as far as rainfall. It's an unstoppable stratagy. You get all your science from tiles and trade routes and build out holy sites ( with a religion) then industrial districts with buildings to take ALL the great engineers on the first one I use one charge to complete the Mausoleum of Halicarnasus and have an extra charge on every subsequent great engineer. I take monumentality on my first golden age and use my faith to buy builders and bring all possible my "corporations" online ( two of same luxury resources completed empire wide then one improved a 3rd time) to start adding lots of free great merchant points as well. With this start I can go for any victory type I wish, I just executed this strategy with Ptolemaic Cleopatra. My main problem is I play on console and the game gets so slow by the Industrial age that just give up and go for cultural victory. I've never won a religious or Diplomatic victory, never built a giant death robot, not once. I may do it this game though.

[@bandgeek54901]

Potato makes the map wet...game says nope, have a continent sized desert instead 🤣

[@frankiecedeno3724]

Good thing there are no other games where you try to get Etemenanki that were live-streamed recently.

[@JeffreyGoddin]

"I feel like I have to kill Samarkand.." That was decided 5 minutes prior when you oggled the resources adjacent to their borders.

[@retrogroovtv]

just started playing this game didn’t know id be so hooked to it 🔥

[@judith678]

Same bro

[@samueltrusik3251]

Having a religious or a wonder-centric game would be fun, would love to see that!

[@bobbyrf]

Happy with the new upload schedule :D

[@KimeruKane]

Potato has apparently been playing some Minecraft if he thinks silk comes from spiders XD

[@davidmills1520]

I can't help thinking that Pingala or Liang would have been superior. Also, I think the real reason to nearly always pick Republic govt first is the legacy card, which I think is worth mentioning.

[@lukeblake91]

Loved the Braveheart reference

[@fratgokcin867]

was looking for a good etemenanki start after livestream could not find one thats insane enough just my luck today. ^^

[@zacharyfrankenberger1838]

Definitely legendary start;)

[@IvanVasheka]

Nice! Locked 2-2 tile in the cap, when there is 3-3-2 available…)

[@diesel42osixty94]

watched the pericles bermuda game recently. england watching a greek colony in the arctic pop up out of nowhere cracked me up 😂

[@LazyVanny]

Potato borrowing Killer Queen for whenever he reloads a save and changes the timeline for the better. Yeah, Maya never likes neighbors that ruin her six city strat. So doom will be fall the city state, like when I was Montezuma and destroyed Rapa city state for taking a good city spot. Thanks Eagle Warriors.

[@P3nnybags]

I would have 100% gone for Etemenanki in the second city for the flood plains bonus (and probably lost out on the wonder because of it)

[@Gabrielbeber]

I am really glad Potato reloaded the game.

[@jakemcgough5121]

Thank you for doing Civ again

[@ericksasaki07]

Man i was so sad that you dont pick the marshes pantheon, i almost write the comment before i see you reload haha

[@østkantproprietæren]

When he said "I think silk can spawn in tundra. Don't ask me how spiders can spawn in tundra!" 💀💀💀

[@Wilzardthespy]

You sound like Dermot from Irish People Try channel. Anyway, I love your stuff, thank you so much for sharing your play with us.

[@holyholyMariaofthesouth]

when you choose wet map you got a huge dessert LOL

[@rahulmanoj9728]

Walking one tile to the left would have prevented the scout from meeting the barb camp.

[@88449966]

Oh, Potato and his Relics :-D

[@darwinn2219]

As Maya, deserts really hurt a ton.

[@balkanmontero]

Just played a Maya game and I had the perfect map to fit in like 9 cities within 6 tiles of my capital, I had to kill 2 city states i rly liked which was a shame but a small price to pay for wide Maya 😎

[@Blaqdot777]

Those marsh yields 😍

[@DrownedInExile]

Etemenanki FTW! I don't think I've ever been able to build that one!

[@SlowUnpacking]

I appreciate the Mayastic joke.

[@zeprowl]

Even though it would take ages to build, why not have the Petra in another city east of Copan? The AI barely ever builds it, so you could just leave it for a while or boost with trading or something? Only thinking that because you have little land. Also is there land out west of your capital?

[@peterk7428]

Silk doesn't come from spiders, it comes from silkworms.

[@matricha11]

Potato, there's wonder construction mod u can install, it will tell you if a wonder is being built by other civs and how many turns left. very useful mod.

[@enigmaticheart666]

When people let the mods play for them

[@matricha11]

@@enigmaticheart666 a matter of choice, i dont like my wonders getting snatched by AI at the last turn...

[@sarahwatts7152]

Desert, tundra - not to mention ocean, so you couldn't even surround the capital on all sides - I would have rerolled immediately

[@leneldraws7887]

Imagine if you could get etem with a bolivar start

[@9catsinatrenchcoat310]

Silk is made from silk worms, the juvenile form of a type of moth. Not from spiders.

[@TimSedai]

Slap a vampire palace on the tundra SW all of your marsh/farms and damn

[@Mango_Bizzaro]

I honestly think I would have dropped a city in the middle of that desert just so I could move my capital to it so I could benefit from the 6-tile range. Would be a rough city, but with a little love it coulda got there.

[@Poppleop]

The Maya bonuses feel so harsh, compared to others. All their civ bonuses have, imo, harsh requirements or harsh penalties. And civ6 is just not really a civ game that rewards tall play.

[@dariotalaya1527]

Love your content dude

[@Legault397]

Silk doesn't come from spiders.... it comes from caterpillars ....

[@el7griego]

Me today as Maya: I'm going for Etemenanki. Literally 1 turn before completing it, the AI gets it. Me: RAGE QUIT

[@ZzolllozZ]

heeeey PotatoMcWhiskey, Buddies here!

[@Andreas01]

You missed the marsh tile to the east, just buy it.

[@linkatronic]

Is this the every Petra wonder run?

[@johnperish]

It wouldnt be a Potate game if he didnt declare he was going to play tall and then immediately build wide. lol being all alone on your island might mean youll finally have a nice sim game at least?

[@hatimzeineddine8723]

I just realized spuddies is a pun on buddies

[@zigajanezic6380]

It happend dude. Inca mountains with preserves around.

[@crisalexcris15]

Silk coming from spiders

[@emekos_]

on turn 45 when it was shown that almost the entire island was a desert i would have restarted instantly

[@RandomGuyTalking]

I'm playing as the Maya currently and I feel like I can't get anything going. They're so good at science but I want to expand and take some Canadian cities where there is some natural wonders with good Culture and faith bonuses, but I can't see it being worth it to throw off my science victory by spending production on that? Is there a specific way you're supposed to play as the Maya that I'm not aware of? Thaaaaanks!

[@larsessenstam5208]

Don't forget to work the marsh tiles instead of the forest in your capital ;)

[@frankiecedeno3724]

I’ve had better tiles in a city with Great Bath and Etemenanki that was mostly floodplains.

[@papatrikpi]

Potato! How do you leave pins without constantly clicking the pin button?? Is there a hotkey?

[@FCBfutbol9]

Can you explain the optimization of producing a settler before or after gaining 1 pop, because I cannot understand the difference and how your way is more optimal vs producing a settler after growing 1 pop.

[@tomgoodacre8615]

The food required for a pop growth increases as the number of pops gets higher. So you save food by losing the lower-value pop.

[@thedamkek]

Very clear ! ty

[@denyskofanov688]

I have few questions about "silk spiders"...

[@alexandermackay6885]

Potato: Maya-land >:)