This Invisible Wall Is RUINING UFC Games!

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[@RomeroXVII]

The bane of my existence

[@nn-NeuralNetwork]

I think remember a Twitter post about this from you in UFC 4. Definitely concerning.

[@MattOxiBeats]

hey you're that singer guy, congrats on the new album !

[@level100boss3]

It baffles me how you can have a near perfect blue print for an MMA game (undisputed 3) and still not get it right after 5 games! It’s always 1 step forward and 3 steps back with EA

[@MartialMind]

Undisputed also had this invisible wall. No game has got it right yet including Undisputed.

[@WiseAli1]

It’s crazy because UD3 had this same problem but at least you could catch punches to counter overthrowing (which *kinda* simulates crashing in), use different attacks in clinch range, or two-hand push your opponent back. It was a problem 12 years ago and is somehow a worse problem now.

[@bdgcasen229]

@@WiseAli1of course he’s gonna defend ea, martial is literally an industry plant for ea to promote their games LOL

[@KingOfKings__]

@@bdgcasen229I get what you’re trying to say but “industry plant” isn’t the right term.

[@RED-qu3pk]

@@bdgcasen229 bro simply supports the game and worked to be involved with ea so his and our voices can be heard. If the game dies his content dies (not really)but he wants his channel based around combat sports content and he wouldn’t directly kill the game that makes most of his revenue

[@the_Kreed556]

EA is a multi-million dollar company, they very well could afford to add everything discussed without effort, they just choose not to.

[@BallinOutOfControl08]

Multi -BILLION every year in profits

[@the_Kreed556]

@@BallinOutOfControl08 exactly

[@WiseAli1]

Great explanation of the crash-in using Canelo and GGG

[@MartialMind]

Thank you!

[@kxxthl]

this is genuinely my biggest pet peeve about the game. nothing else in the game annoys me more than this, especially since crashing into the opponent is a part of how i strike irl. i’ve seen too many bad players that should be stifling their attacks rock me and it’s bs

[@KlNGKEEF]

ahhhh shutup

[@KlNGKEEF]

hush up

[@kxxthl]

@@KlNGKEEF damn, you like me so much you had to reply twice?

[@alexha2884]

This might be my favorite videos of yours ever. This would really change the game and make for an interesting and realistic aspect. You explained your thoughts perfectly and the use of the videos to back up and better show what ur talking about was great. I hope UFC games can be great again one day 🔥

[@user-bm8qe7wd6p]

Hey martial, you could add a clash of heads when you both duck in the same time, a lot of times in real fights this leads to a fighter taking a cut

[@marcbrisbane6800]

Could you imagine how frustrating that would be either getting DQ for it or beat by it. You'd have people cheesing or exploiting it lol

[@user-bm8qe7wd6p]

@@marcbrisbane6800 surely they could put a great way around it, if so it would be awesome

[@adagiostan1938]

Yeah it is realistic but it would be taken advantage of, not everything needs to be added just because it in real life.

[@binhaldon5078]

A perfect example in mma is Cub Swanson vs Kron Gracie. They were basically throwing head to head the entire fight. This is also the range for more body shots landing, where their range has always been weird in the latest ufc games.

[@mikewilde8801]

90% of the players online just move backwards the entire fight anyways 😂

[@someguywhousesyoutubelikee1376]

Or spam the weave uppercut or plain old uppercut for easy stuns and health events since its overpowered right now and a cheese in stand and bang

[@smd4349]

Bro I used to think I was just too aggressive at some point but a lot of players do back up majority of the time

[@Dreak2x]

I said the same thing I feel like the movement should be like boxing games movement we should have full control

[@JokerCarnageYT]

In ufc undisputed 3 you had the option to catch your opponent punch which would cause a clinch. If this was implemented of course the clinch would need to be reworked.

[@tylersimmons7263]

EA is ruining UFC games. I played UFC 3 for years, finally bought UFC 4 last summer and I only played half of the career before I deleted that piece of shit game and went back to 3. I don't even wanna play UFC 5 because I'm not expecting it to be any better. After watching gameplay I can confidently say I was right in not buying that game. It's sad how far sports games have fallen over the years.

[@Rick-305]

I’m currently playing ufc 5 through ea game trail( 10 hours) there no point buying the game full price because it’s the same shit as ufc 4. The thing I love about ufc 5 is the submission system. Other than that it’s kind of the same. Same striking but kinda different style like the hooks and upper cuts are different, you still can’t sway ur head when u get hit, ai still dodging ur shit like a mind reader, the graphics are good but there’s barely sweat on the fighters. That’s why ima get it when it’s cheap. UFC 4 was first a pain in the ass but I got used to it over the years but I don’t blame you tho. If you still want ufc 5 in general it’s best u get it for cheap like when it’s at least 30$ or under. I got to ask how much did you pay for ufc 4??

[@tylersimmons7263]

@@Rick-305 i actually have EA subscription so UFC 4 was like 5 bucks but it's the fact I'm paying for something that the devs didn't put their heart and soul into. For example, UFC Undisputed 3 was a fucking Diamond Mine of a game. The most perfect MMA game I've ever played and all it lacked for me was the vulnerability system. I didn't like UFC 4 because the career mode was great all the way until I had to fight top 15, I got (literally) one punch KO'd by RDA, next fight I got kicked once in the body and it dropped me and then finished with G&P, next fight I didn't land a single punch and got knocked out again in less than a minute. If they're going to make it impossible to play through AI difficulty settings I'll just play something else. I feel like they don't even care if people like the game because they'll buy it to play the new UFC game so the sales will still be there but what does it matter when your fan base stops playing your game in a couple months because they can't win? Another thing was that I couldn't create a fighter and set their perks and stats in exhibition like I could with 3. I built my fighter to be like me and gave my fighter my own strengths and weaknesses and I can't do that on 4 so I assume I still can't do that on 5 either. Sorry for the novel, I've had issues with EA for years. It's like a content machine, there's no substance to it, it's just another mindless time filler instead of being a realistic fight simulator.

[@marcbrisbane6800]

​@@Rick-305 that AI dodging and swaying triggered me there 😂 i was playing earlier and the AI actually swayed to the side 3 times in a row flawlessly, no stamina deterioration or anything, i just find it so silly

[@duatchol7710]

Been asking for a follow up video like this for awhile. Really enjoyed the first dev related vid with this visit. Thanks Martial 🔥🔥🔥

[@RagnellAvalon]

Unrealistic suggestions aside because EA will never spend any money they don't absolutely have to, I think the biggest problem with this is that with certain fighters with short reach it can be literally impossible to actually clinch the opponent from range distance (high-weight Bruce Lee has this problem, for example), and most fighters have a huge issue with elbows being unlandable from a reasonable distance.

[@dragonslayer2107]

This is an interesting idea and it works for strikes with the upper body but what about kicks and knees that the opponent for might move into. If I am remembering correctly, one of the ways that fighters use to lessen the impact of an opponent's strike is to close the distance so the opponent is unable to put as much force behind the shot as they otherwise would be able to.

[@jacrispy1440]

What about the dam camera bug that switches you sides every grapple exchange or get ups lol

[@caligreene5098]

Martial can you make a video or give tips on cage clinching defense

[@FallenGrey]

Slip clinches and quick clinch attacks with head movement. Got it I hope one day a fan can program and animate this

[@Nousername0]

This is a great observation and breakdown. You should be on the dev team for like ideas and marketing

[@liambirnie6432]

what settings do you have to change to get the grappling controls like yours? i preferred that way

[@kogin9126]

There is an invisible wall in a full contact combat sports game.

[@noecalle7557]

A different fix atleast for me maybe I’m the only one lol, but when players swing and just move the fighter all the way left or right. The camera starts to rotate and they just get shots off because of the camera movement, incredibly annoying. Just constant circling but not even skilled circling just holding the stick without letting go

[@dibaterman]

That's complex to change depending on the implementation. IF they are using and actual collider then that's still but it would probably be the simplest solution right? If the collider registers collision it can contract, if there is an attack while the collider is at a certain size it can emit a signal for the faux clinch if both sides are holding direction toward the collider.

[@alexxxk]

excelent tips that you gave .............. congratulations !

[@zuhelmiah6618]

You should inform undisputed boxing game about this. There still working on clinching even after the game get release. Really good idea👍

[@victorypudding9627]

On top of being able to crash into each other, we need to be able to crash into the cage

[@unstardom]

how come they keep this in for 5 games it's don't make sense because you will think they will had found a way past this by now

[@ace-da-boxer977]

Yup .. it’s called distance management

[@BigPersonaInWonderland]

I think the main problem with any combat sport being translated into a video game is the sheer intricacy of fighting. Like there’s so many things that are difficult to translate to a game.

[@matthewgordon9341]

True but you'd think game in the past in theory should be worse, but sadly older games do alot of things better than ufc 5. When it should completely be the opposite

[@jjbeannn]

we live in a world where GTA 6 is gonna drop before we get a better UFC game than UD3

[@marcbrisbane6800]

I think it all sounds good. I have no clue about game dev though so i dont know how realistic it is to implement into the game. I do think it sounds like a really tough thing to put in without either breaking the game like you and the devs said.

[@FelicitaGonzalez-nh1bo]

Ea needs to have someone like you in their ear closely it’s obvious you have real genuine passion for this I would want you by my side if I was ea

[@Royal_Assassins]

He is in their ear, he is apart the GameChangers. They just don't care.

[@tristhekid]

Should they add like a push mechanic? If you push into your opponent you get pushed back?

[@MartialMind]

Yes. My suggestion for that is to just keep the current push mechanic we already have in the game and just integrate it.

[@noshy2831]

Needed to be said, also the fact you're locked in front of your opponent at all times. It's unrealistic as all hell, especially if you train and playing and expect to make a full circle away from your oppoent and the cage (whom, let's assume is holding forward trying to pressure you.) in real life, circling away from him as he's going straight, will make you avoid him completely. He'll have to cut you off in order to box you in, in this game you do not need to do any of that. You'll have a guy backing you up to the cage and as you circle away, he'll track you down and still hit you, spinning on like wheels in his feet. The movement isn't possible in real life, it's like aimbot in any game but a fighting game, he tracks you the whole damn time, thus making footwork useless in this game. Ever since i properly trained, this game has always looked ugly and like shit to me. My brain can never unsee it.

[@chillguy2089]

If they do this , they have to implement accidental eye pokes, groin strikes and headbutts. Headbutts should rock both opponents. Groin stikes should do the same for who ever took the shot etc. i believe they could do that shit because alot of players dont mice correctly and that wouls literally force accuracy on everyone making it more realistic. Shits pretty smart man

[@PrimetimeBJJ]

theres headbutts and groin shots in fight night champion eye pokes are harder to account for

[@DarkEmperor3693]

Do You have tips to get out of div 1😭

[@Shadow_407]

Be good at the game simple as that just practice man no disrespect here.

[@allpraisewebb1142]

They need to rid this whole division system or change it I've literally had on two different occasions win streaks over 30+ but still remained in division 1 like how??! 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Ar1140]

@@allpraisewebb1142that is cap i agree that the division system is messed up but there is no way you get a 30 fight win streak and stay there you are just lying

[@Makukulaaa]

That depends on who you're fighting against, if it's from a higher division or not, if you notice there are certain wins that give more XP than others. ​@@allpraisewebb1142

[@SerkanMazz]

It’s when you rage quit otherwise it’s not happening. Otherwise just winning.

[@kolinnitruc8692]

How do you get to this cage and mode to practice like this at?

[@rissoldecarne]

practice mode

[@simppods3709]

I just want the ufc 2 ragdoll system back, ufc 5 kos feel stiff and the same animation replays

[@TrillaDC]

The thing I hate about every Ea ufc is how clinching and takedown are similar buttons to strikes. I’ll try to take down or clinch and my guy will punch and I get rocked. Why did they make it like that. If they add pushes they need to redo the whole controls

[@Jwick-vc4ro]

You not doing a Mighty Mouse showcase is ruining my day

[@user-js4gv5jq7k]

So this chanel all about u

[@dg8522]

Tbh this is more important, we’ve been playing the same game for years now

[@Jwick-vc4ro]

@@dg8522 real

[@LovelyHeartDiamond]

@@user-js4gv5jq7khe was talking about the upload, what are you on about?

[@Feel_the_Wrath]

@@user-js4gv5jq7ki think he was agreeing with you lmfao

[@MattOxiBeats]

I'm telling my kids this was Kurt Cobain

[@furyfleming2126]

I like it to be more fast paced

[@st0phmeist3r]

I agree with the auto clinch

[@managut]

This is a good topic. I hope someone actually listens.

[@MsNumber01]

Martial Mind 4 hire Ea.

[@MurphysLiveStreams]

EA: we can’t do it because it would cause clipping issues. Me: like all the animation clipping that’s been in all your other sports titles you refused to find a solution for.

[@1OldPacman]

you should work on the ufc games, martial.

[@mrm2746]

Ea definitely not goin to change this in ufc5 lol, should be talking about current issues wit the game that hasnt been fixed since release

[@MartialMind]

This wasn't a suggestion for UFC 5.

[@aenan_wow]

I understand this complaint, but then again I’ve seen games like Undisputed remove the invisible wall and it just makes the game so clunky and ugly to look at in my opinion. Players falling into each other, punches in the clinch looking loopy etc. Not sure how they make it clean and aesthetically pleasing to look at, but for right now I think I’m very okay with the invisible wall. Maybe if I can be directed to a game that does it beautifully? My opinion isn’t set in stone// I’m relatively new to the UFC games.

[@Supportjb1410]

EA can't implement this because it would take a lot of thinking and their brains might start hurting :(

[@someguywhousesyoutubelikee1376]

Or they're afraid theyll make a very bad collision game since we seen the mummy guard video

[@1wingedangel954]

How about we fix the on hand issues first, stupid customisation, only 5 types of fighters where everyone feels almost the same, unblockable clinch subs, submission issue, 1 ref, doctor stoppages (which having invisible wall isn’t helping), and the list goes on.

[@PrimetimeBJJ]

youre the man. youre a great advocate

[@chewkie420]

Why is Conor still bald is the real question

[@bingbong558]

you speak so well

[@TreyParker318]

It really would make the game feel more real. Some actual fighters don't even crash in as much as they should. Like Volk vs Topuria. Soon as Illia started to get Volk against the cage I was screaming crash in! Grab this man! 😂

[@MartialMind]

I was screaming that too bro. Volk actually did it one time and that was it. I think if they go back and reexamine that fight, they'll see that crashing into constantly and forcing the clinch against Ilia is a must.

[@artovo8227]

Dude talling about making the game harder even though i cant compete on difficulty Hard

[@The3Sp7]

Super Necessary

[@bencera6067]

I can’t stand how cheesy this game is. They have the potential to make it good but keep it dumb AF. Lead dev needs to be put in mobile games cause it’s clearly his mentality.

[@cortedemico]

good content right here. i don't even play this game.

[@cortedemico]

imma gonna sub just because you have some great insight. don't like fighting games, and ain't a fan of fights IRL. i liked tekken, virtual fighter, street fighter, etc (mike tysons 'knockout' game (not the IRL knockout game) was cool), but your enthusiasm and intelligent breakdowns of desired mechanics is pleasant to my ears.

[@RED-qu3pk]

I’m ngl. Love the ideas n ur totally right but it’d help if you actually used mma for the example and not boxing. Striking is so much different from mma to boxing. Mma boxing don’t look like boxing boxing.

[@MartialMind]

Brother. I used MULTIPLE MMA clips in this video as well.

[@RED-qu3pk]

@@MartialMind yea I totally understand I watched but I mean the specific GGG and canelo clips. I feel that head to head stuff just wasn’t accurate that’s all. I love ur content and by no means am I tryna hate I just feel those examples are kinda void just because of how much of a difference the sports have just in the way boxing is done

[@IHunterF1]

Personally I’ve seen EA now ruin FIFA, madden, F1, and now UFC. I truly wish more sports would do away with EA like FIFA did.

[@gamersblogghana]

First to comment and showing love and support to your channel. Much love from Ghana

[@gamersblogghana]

I understand your concerns bro but it will be impossible to include things like this in the current build or they will have to sacrifice some mechanics in the next UFC game (on this current gen). It will be possible in the next gen where the frostbite engine is advanced from it current state, games in this current gen some are advanced than previous releases on old gen systems.

[@joannross3565]

I notice in the comments you rarely shit on ufc 5 why?

[@dg8522]

Just spam Clinch Martial!

[@BlessedUFC]

And yet cheese players going to abuse this if it would've been in the game😂

[@MartialMind]

Anything that isn't done correctly can be abused. The key is doing things right.

[@mmi4745]

Martial your doing too much wishful thinking. This is EA we’re talking about. You do business with them you should know they’re not willing to add realistic physics based animations

[@badguyenjoyer]

EA needs to make martialmind the main game designer for UFC 6.

[@wespunisher]

um excuse me i cant find ufc 5 on my ps4 do you know what happned

[@ShengFink]

Brother…

[@Mackenzie002]

You still have a ps4?

[@LovelyHeartDiamond]

Sorry buddy, it’s PS5 only, even though the PS4 could probably run it fine, they wouldn’t dare spend enough money for two different releases

[@wespunisher]

@@Mackenzie002 yes

[@Mackenzie002]

@@wespunisher it’s too old sorry not sorry

[@BWBC-TTV]

WHY DID THEY GET AWAY FROK UFC 3. UFC 3 was the most balanced game they made. They were very lazy with making UFC 4 and 5. No Bruce Buffer, Championship Fights on Rank are 3rnds😒, you can’t throw your combos as fast as you could on UFC 3. EA just got so lazy with the game

[@manlikemog]

First

[@joaquinmengel2224]

Hey Henry, I'm trying to find your email to send you something but I can't find it anywhere.. can you link it to me?

[@MartialMind]

[e-mail]

[@hmanvlogs2956]

EA has zero passion, and I think a lot of the ground level employees are bad at the job and incapable, clearly this series needs to go to a different company, but that’s never going to happen I mean, there are so so so so so many fucking issues that I really doubt will ever be addressed From simple shit like punch follow through with straight punches (which currently only tap the opponent then retract) to the absolutely horrendous ground game system

[@MartialMind]

Which company do you believe this series should go to?