This is a Disaster.. (Kyle beats Sandbox Review)

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[@dm12e]

Nah

[@Kay-Cee_1]

Kyle and his team probably rushed it so they could release it on "Black Friday." Needless to say "Creativity always depends on the creator"

[@treyhudson73]

Chasing dollars is almost always a bad decision. They should pull it off the market, and call an audible.

[@JuanRodriguez-wr5ew]

@@treyhudson73 How? Kyle clearly has made a ridiculous amount of money from his last 3 plugins off of naive guillble kids. Seems he's accomplishing exactly what he set out to

[@treyhudson73]

@@JuanRodriguez-wr5ew How what? Pull it? I'd have to think it through, but putting out something that doesn't even work isn't a good look.

[@wb3213]

@@JuanRodriguez-wr5ew Kyle can probably market a musical turd and his fan base will buy it 😂

[@rekayrovera]

I have a bad feeling the issues of video game releases will come over to music production at some point

[@Yungumbro]

still waiting for that anime sex with hitler plugin 🔥

[@Bittamin]

Stay strong, if people stop buying plug-ins, less people will make them. We need to bring forth an era of stock music only 😅

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

And just like video games, pirates will save the day

[@dirg3music]

​@@Sergio-nb4hj this is what I'm saying. Just pirate the shit like you would Adobe.

[@EricJohnson-fh8zj]

@@dirg3music The problem with p!rat'd software for most people is trying to find a halfway trustworthy place to get it from that isn't gonna malware the shit out of your computer and skull f**k your whole system. Been thinking of this for Cubase 12 (i dont have the money for it because unfortunately i just shelled out over $400 for studio one 5 pro a few months ago). Cant afford another new daw now and turns and im not really vibing with S1. Especially since after the weak sauce version 6 upgrade dropped. It looks like the rumors that fender is gonna screw it up are looking to be true. But The problem is I have nearly $3500 of software that I've actually paid for that I don't wanna put at risk. There are a lot of apps and files I'm sure to lose permanently if I had to set everything up from scratch again. P.s. I'm the type of sorry Sap who would eventually purchase a license if I decided to keep using it anyhow. I like to pay people for thier work if they did a good job. Especially for smaller companies where the owners are the actual coders trying to make a living)

[@overflowbeats6965]

Once you said “No Manual” that was my last red flag. 😅 I get manuals for stock EQ’s, cmonnn.

[@AveMcree]

They spent that $150k on ads

[@Weaverbeats]

Or flying them dudes out for the promo video 😂

[@playpm]

Didn't expect the review this soon! I'm gonna join the audit and expose bad plugins too haha, love your channel and videos btw, cheers~

[@AziDoesQuestionableThings]

let's goooo i love your channel :)

[@jonytube]

PLEASE REVIEW SCAMMY AUDIO PRODUCTS MICHAEL

[@drum877]

It reminds me of when Homer made his own car in the Simpsons.

[@milkshakescigarettes7513]

Well, at least Kyle is staying consistent with his plugins.

[@Realoffguard]

Secret sauce is trash

[@justtosharefiles678]

Daaaamm

[@judef]

@@Realoffguard Exactly

[@FredExvideo]

U sound like a worker of Kyle. Or ur really Kyle himself…one of the two.

[@awesomeguy5583]

Lmao true

[@DanBorg]

fuck yess Thank you!! Kyle is either going to give you credit for pointing this out or he is silently going to change it. Either way, we needed a video like this and only you deliver 😂

[@justinbreakingnews2746]

Kyle beats reminds me of like araon kyro like everyone watches him at first but over time we all grow out if it

[@DanBorg]

@@justinbreakingnews2746 AHHAH yess, there is just nothing to learn from ''this is fire'' . personally when I started out I watched alot of YT producers but now @Weaver Beats is one of the few.

[@justinbreakingnews2746]

@@DanBorg bro that's hella accurate I always see those " making the hardest song" typa video just to get an ass beat & lyrics, as producer I wanna see coaching on ppl bc the knowledge that artist have sum times is just wack

[@DanBorg]

@@justinbreakingnews2746 I Normally don't make content like that! but if people in the producer industry are interested... I could start doing it, I feel like there is a lot of ''HARDED BEAT'' video's but no coaching. I had to figure it out myself how to help Artist that aren't ''baby drakes'' or ''the new lil baby''

[@papito2lindo]

"is this a menu for ants?"😂😂😂😂😂

[@kjellbeats]

never even considered buying it but im still excited for reviews on it

[@alexanderskjold9511]

Native Instruments’ Playbox. If you want an absolute fking beats of a sampler/synth/harmoniser/chord generator - go check that shit out, UNREAL!

[@captain_crunk]

This!

[@Weaverbeats]

Yeah playbox is great

[@PULSEMusicGroup]

Exactly! I did a top 10 of NI plugins this year and Playbox KILLED IT!

[@LADDA2009]

This is the only review channel that I trust

[@AlexReidStudios]

just wanted to point out that ANA 2 by Sonic Academy also has a chord generator

[@prodtylerfrz]

Thanks for being honest bro not a lot of people are willing to do what you're doing. You've quickly become one of my favorite youtubers just because of your transparency. Keep it up brother

[@MartinKirilov]

Basically a bunch of plugins into one. Feels like another tool for people with limited music knowledge or people that just want to get good sounds outright, but as with most things, it will get old quickly IMHO.

[@shinji1264]

Definitely trash and won't stand the test of time... I still use Massive and Nexus I got in 2013, probably will still use em in 2040 off and on if I'm alive too

[@ohno6325]

@@shinji1264 2040 is only 18, about to be 17 years away. wow. 🤯

[@DarkMetaOFFICIAL]

it's doing things i didn't even know you could do to your daw 😂🤣 i died

[@Skyverb]

7:52 Bro it just took you to another realm.

[@stereokuuji]

🤣🤣🤣

[@retroriggs195]

Hilarious and honest as always... Thanks for this review !!!!!

[@KyleBeats_]

Make sure you go to Weaver Beats 2 and watch the updated review of sandbox!

[@Weaverbeats]

Nah that's not the updated review. I got the real review coming tomorrow or the day after most likely.

[@Skigunn]

so now im thinking how many times did it crash on their sandbox release video

[@justincolenproductions]

I’m gonna go ahead and buy 3 notes and 2 presets for the “F you pay me plugin.”

[@NOT.ROME.WAV_]

WAS WAITING FOR THISS😂😂😂😂😂

[@greyjaye7115]

The idea has potential, but i think he rushed the plugin, I don't know if he was trying to tap into the black Friday sales or what. But waiting a little bit longer and fixing some of these issues would have done the plugin justice. Otherwise great review you were very objective with it

[@thedeeprot]

🔥🔥🔥

[@carlagallarday4994]

ANA 2 synth also has chord function built in. Even that part isn’t original or different lol

[@bullshyte4318]

I dunno why but it fells like a plugin you can get from vst4free

[@MrRacecourser]

They finna start hatin' on you! Lmfao!! Keep up the honest reviews & real talk. Lord knows we need more of it.

[@MrJayBeatstv]

Thank you for this review

[@KeLeighton]

"... other than the crashing..." lol, when that's a throwaway remark, you know this plugin is in trouble

[@justinbreakingnews2746]

At this point ppl should just send all plugins to you for testing before releasing to get an honest reviews but they don't wanna hear the truth

[@catguyisawesome]

I was waiting for your opinion on this to see if it's worth buying a subscription plugin from a KZbinr. Thank you for telling me how shit this was 🙏

[@Phizicist]

I fkn love you dude

[@uzadegotone]

10:00 brooo sense of humor to good bro FYPB love it all the features locked but at least the undo is there lmaoooo

[@damienlobb85]

Even if all the testers were FL Studio users, Sandbox is still a broken mess in FL as well.

[@SuperLinuxAudioGuru]

Does the 'F*ck You Pay Me' plugin have an option to pay the full price upfront AND pay a lifetime subscription with no further updates ? , If so take my money already. .... Oh i see Matt Tytel helped out with the GUI, nice work 'Massive skater cut'

[@captainmormon8289]

Can't wait for the team to buy up all of KZbins ad space 🙌

[@AaronZuniga617]

The scorch plugin also has a chord generator

[@rushdown24]

Who needs an undo button when there is a uninstall button 😆

[@DaddaPsy]

10:27 Don't give plugin developers and marketing departments any ideas now. It's enough with companies going for the subscription model...

[@Amplifimusic]

Sandbox Patcher preset/effect rack?

[@Hbizzjohnson]

i have about a 6 month old 3k studio laptop and 3 tracks of sandbox with randomized sounds is enough to start maxing my cpu its quite disappointing. it has a lota cool sounds and cool concept but the pitch was that i was going to be able to have like a bunch of tracks with sandbox and can essentially make almost a full song with one plugin of sounds. i think my laptop would catch on fire before 4 tracks of the plugin are on lol 1 already brings me to 30 to 60% cpu usage depending on the sound

[@jj4l]

It's probs cause its single threaded since its easier to develop.

[@473lyrical8]

The end of the video is funny asl 😂

[@aldraias1]

LOL. This guy is always good for a laugh... and a bit of honesty it seems...?

[@turkeycrazyhorse3351]

Great review😂

[@matthewgaines10]

The 1980’s wants their GUI back.

[@doolsonthebeat2149]

do any synths have an undo button? unless im dumb dont think serum has one

[@Weaverbeats]

I know vital does, not at my computer rn so I can't check. I think its extra crucial with this synth though due to the chord thing

[@yggbeats5759]

just watched previous vid and went to ur channel to see did u check the plugin and lmao just uploaded 2 min ago

[@Juliano_DJOL]

Subscription based software should only be for apps or programs that need continued support and updates w new content and more features! I was hating on Arcade at first but after trying it out and seeing the amount of content and updates I was like ok, so it's comparable to loopcloud and splice, which I like but didn't at first either. I just don't see what they cld add to this to get anyone to subscribe and pay that much for it!

[@musicbyshadofox]

lmao this was giving me war flashbacks to Genesis Pro

[@swzyfrmdaroc]

7:40 I had the same issue in FL. Lost one of my favorite beats I made in a while…

[@User56538]

MENU FOR ANTS?!

[@LaghimaMusic]

The fact there’s no undo is wild that takes like five seconds to code lol

[@jimonaldo3108]

This is why the best producers/musicians collaborate with a high quality plugin company who knows what they're doing. Subscription model for a plugin is a bust.

[@okashasunami32]

"starts with a c-note when you start off" bwahaha! Good one!

[@Mike_Benz_]

You know what this plugin needs? it's a Dry/Wet knob so you blend between what you had before you insert this plugin on a channel

[@g0ste]

Oh no the original sandbox ad video is now private! i am shocked!

[@themilkman2719]

It crashed every time I used it. I would open it, turn a knob or place a note down and then boom crash. And I have never had that experience with another plugin

[@Weaverbeats]

yeah its incredibly buggy

[@vuyogaspard3723]

Good review

[@Weaverbeats]

Thank you

[@Chyuuch]

"Its broken out of 10" 🤣😂😂🤣😂

[@fredeatstheworld308]

try map the parameters to the racks in ableton then you can undo automation and adjustments.

[@jayodea503]

Kyle Beats - Subscription wavetable synth anyone? R2R crack team - hold my beer...

[@clancyclarke]

Legendddd!

[@Yourmom-bl1yx]

Good review lol this is what I want from plug-in reviews honesty and tell me what is wrong with it.. not how incredible it is 😂 I like kyles content and some of his beats but his plugins need some serious work or better developers because they both have very bad UI problems

[@AikiraBeats]

I feel like he’s been rushing with these two plugins. Like it takes a decent amount of time to fix bugs that will come throughout time. Rushing is what causes a lot of issues that could’ve been avoided.

[@AdamElteto]

"Ableton i s not supposed to look like this..." Haha, epic understatement!

[@No.Life.Entertainment]

You just got a new subscriber. Kept it all 💯💯💯 to the bone. You sir saved me from making a bad investment

[@treyhudson73]

I love my Captain Chords! Idk about their new "Pilot" AI plugin. It looks kooky

[@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69]

Wtf. I just checked it out. Kooky AF.

[@treyhudson73]

@@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 Haha! No idea what they are doing there. Maybe Andrew Huang helped design it?

[@talldarkstrangerpr]

Nice Goodfellas reference

[@jefffpv2759]

i wonder how many times it crashed while filming his commercial?

[@rypdx]

Thankfully the torrent version of this is out for anyone who wants to test it and not waste their $$

[@HewittH]

Thank you for the honest review. I'm getting off that dude's mailing list. I was smart enough to know that he presented the annual price as what it *would* cost monthly, but others experienced confusion. Also is this made with Maize Sampler? Whenever I see a VST that HAS to be on the system drive, I get suspicious. Maize isn't worth the trouble of not having installers and hogging up the C drive. All those F'rs can F off. Dope VST, Thenatan, all these punks! It's 2022 for cryin' out loud!

[@chiwalker7325]

Can I start out with one C-Note?

[@itsrelativ3967]

Serious question. What video plugin do you use for your green screen or backgrounds??

[@Weaverbeats]

Just the chroma key in obs. The trick is to have the lighting high and even.

[@itsrelativ3967]

@@Weaverbeats OK. Gotcha. I have OBS already. Thx 🙂

[@NewMateo]

I gotta say its pretty hilarious thst if you search "kyle beats sandbox" the very first link and all subsequent links is youtube videos saying its garbage lol

[@nebstaism]

In reason there is a plugin called scales and chords that’s really good for playing chords with one finger.... it’s dope I used it all the time.... it’s got pretty much every scale and you can pretty much play every chord.... if you know how to tweak it.... 💯🔥🔥🔥

[@3RTAK]

Es una burla, excelente critica...🇲🇽👌✌️

“It’s broken / 10” 😂😂

[@billyjor7617]

i’m just annoyed because it crashes everytime i try and use it, so i’m not gonna keep using it

[@Phizicist]

check the roastie on the hand there bruv, lets get some skate videos

[@saxonguitarness]

But can it do jazz?

[@dirg3music]

The only plugin subscription model that's worth a damn imo is Kilohearts, and that's only because they give you a 100$ coupon back at the end of the year which allows you to upgrade to a perpetual license later on. I do see why people like arcade though, even if i dont personally. If you just want new presets to quickly use it seems pretty good for that.

[@lukaxz]

Kilo hearts rules, top notch quality plugins and they have great customer service

[@dirg3music]

@@lukaxzDefinitely one of the best audio softwares companies around, there's literally nothing to complain about when it comes to them. Lol

[@Nirossen]

brother what is that on your hand? looks like blood

[@Weaverbeats]

Cut from skateboarding

[@middaymeds]

Beatmaking KZbinrs ruin everything they touch. They could start a charity for starving kids and still find a way to make it completely terrible.

[@M_Catch]

Charging monthly does feel like competing with splice and output

[@shinji1264]

At least these two subscriptions make sense, because you always need new samples... but w this you only need a few presets that sound good

[@xMaSSxHyST3RiA]

Lol I'm sure splice and output are not too worried about this one being a competitor

[@papa_da_engineer]

I gotta know how many people went to your website for the end of the video lol 😂😂

[@justinbreakingnews2746]

These patcher presets are crazy

[@colethecrazy]

I could pay $10 a month for this plug-in or $10 a month for KOMPLETE NOW, hmmm hard choice…

[@jj4l]

Why would I use this over pigments

[@licherally234]

Shit I'll just keep my vital subscription, if nobody got me I know Matt Tytel got me. Thanks for the review!

[@Animethot973]

“Only a C note” 😂

[@Beatsbasteln]

i personally barely care qbout undo buttons but all your other arguments are quite heavy. it's a shame. when i saw the plugin i first thought kyle actually made something really cool finally. well, it would still be cool if he addressed the issues you mentioned here

[@chrollo7102]

high tier content

[@smellymala3103]

Are these guys just making or*ec2 chains pretty and selling them because…

[@harmatodlamstel6435]

Good ideas but it was executed by amateur developers. He needs to take this down issue refunds get it FIXED and then re release without a CASHGRAB subscription.

[@MrTonyPruden]

Kyle (and his products) are just a symptom of the real problem. The problem is modern urban music is so rudimentary and non musical that it all sounds the same. Thus anyone can recreate it. He, and others like him, heard trap music, saw it’s popularity and created a channel and following that never elevates the genre or gives real respect to those who created it. Urban music is just a means to an end for him and many others who seek to cash in on “modern” wannabe producers who want one button solutions to achieve fortune and fame.

[@407movementBeats]

I disagree with the first part of “urban” music being non musical and sounding the same. That shows how out of touch you truly are which puts you in the same category as where you would put Kyle 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@tensixty124]

You’re conflating 2 different things… music can be rudimentary and musical, complex and non musical, etc and it goes for ALL genres not just trap. While I do agree that todays music is mostly for public image and less about creating what you want to hear yourself, still doesnt take away from any genres, bad apples will exist in every corner of life

[@mikeexits]

Ever have lag using IZotope Iris 2? That's one of very few plug-ins that has patches that actually make my DAW stutter even with higher sampling rate. Some patches are straight up unplayable in real time and have to be frozen/bounced/resampled. Still a really interesting synth to me and we'll worth the $10 I paid for it.

[@Mad_ManX]

Lmfaro ' you're Analytical sense of Humor is well funny ' 💯💣

[@diemcarpemusic]

Infiltrator 2 one of best things

[@mak00ileven]

I believe Kyle intentional release meme plugins. lol

[@jj4l]

Undo is so easy when it's mostly just floating point numbers to store. It's not like you have store 100s of MBs in RAM