THIS IS A LOT SIMPLER THAN YOU THINK, HOW A LUMBER KILN WORKS

This video gives a brief tour and explanation of the inner workings of the Wood-Mizer KD150 Kiln we run here at the sawmill.
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[@steveshoemaker6347]

No such thing anymore of 110 volts or 220 volts it went out a long time ago.....Every thing nowadays is 120 volts and 240 volts....Anyway Thanks very much.....!...l think if you mount the water bottle horizontal or just a little higher the wick will stay wet....Just saying.

[@donaldadams5342]

Excellent run down on your kiln Nathan, I wish you well in all that you do in your chosen field. Cheers, Don from South Australia.

[@jimmccarley3191]

You knew this was coming. For your kiln to work correctly you have to have an Alaska coffee mug, and use it as your loading any lumber into the kiln. I have been watching your films awhile and I see you buy equipment after planning and doing your research. If anyone deserves to have a successful business ( or as we say in Texas " bitness" ) you sure do and I love to see people develop and run small businesses that are successful. You have created and are doing what America was built on, creative ideas and hard work. I am an old man but I have learned so much from your films and I have told my friends about your channel, after I warn them it is contagious. Much success in all you endeavor Nathan!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

thank you Jim,

[@webbtrekker534]

Too funny, I had just finished watching a documentary on the "Big Boy 4014" steam locomotive and came to this channel and the first thing I see is a steam train! I had to laugh. Great video as usual!

[@davidnielsen4490]

Thank you Nathan. Have a good weekend.

[@alaskanawesomeness9017]

Looking good!!! Plowed our 10" snow fall all day today!!

[@johnwalls4722]

Thanks for insight on your kiln. Enjoyed as always.

[@207carter]

Great teacher of the business

[@rickoncordova1]

Interesting. Thanks for the kiln walk through. Rick.

[@mtnstream1]

Love all the info you share.

[@davidgagnon2849]

" 'Cause as you can see, I'm totally out of room in here." I foresee another kiln going up soon, or a huge mac daddy one. LOL Great video Nathan. Thank you for telling and showing us how it works.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks buddy

[@BigDaddy_MRI]

Wow!!! Outstanding video!! I enjoyed that very much. That kiln is very interesting in and of itself. Kinda like a whole other aspect of sawing the slabs. Thank you Nathan. They all are great. This one filled in a lot of information.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

thanks Harry

[@tomholz9928]

You are a brilliant man . Thanks for your work!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

thank you for watching,

[@wesleyhayley3657]

love it when you explain the technical side of your operation. if I were younger n able to move around id be very tempted to set myself up. had to wake ol crazy tommy up but he sure seemed happy to see momma cat again. hey to everyone out there n I cant wait to see you mill up that box elder crotch you showed at the end. thanks Nathan.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

thanks Wesley,

[@timmorris8932]

TRAINS! One of my favorite sounds in the whole world! Ranks just below my ABWs voice in the morning and my son's laugh.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

me2

[@mickrose9633]

Right on Nate ! Great walk though with cost and process. Wish I had time to fly out and give a hand on the barn. Looking forward to seeing you in it. Mick from Hawaii the post and beam guy from Maine

[@timbermen11]

Thank you for sharing your setup. I need to build a kiln this winter as my slabs have been air drying a little more than a year now and are read for the sanitation process. I posed a video of my sawmill setup, let me know what you think. Keep up the great work!!!

[@missc8870]

•💟• Thank you so much for this informative video that satisfies the curious and the interested. Oh my goodness, yes, all kitties definately exit the kiln after helping your papa load it! •💟•

[@edsmith4414]

Woodmizer makes a nice unit (I've run an LT 40 since 1991), but you can do the exact same thing with an old window air conditioner, which is dry by dehumidifying. I run an old 22,000 BTU unit I got for free in a 1,000bdft kiln in my shop that does the same thing as a pricey unit from Woodmizer.

[@Goludan]

Love this channel. Anytime i can't get to sleep...

[@mountainviewturning5319]

Very neat video 👍

[@darodes]

Good info thanks for sharing!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

You bet!

[@heavymetalmadman3533]

awesome vid

[@evankibbe590]

Excellent video 😊👍👍👍👍

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

thanks Evan

[@truesouthsawmill4151]

Great job 👍 awesome

[@jacobmeadows1064]

Beautiful intro

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks

[@alanatolstad4824]

Yep, I've been waiting for the big clear-out!

[@redlindholm8451]

Thanks for posting this Nathan. Maybe you could elaborate a bit about advantages and disadvantages compared to solar kiln as asked by ku4ap. I am curious to know

[@truevinetoday1398]

Nice 👍

[@guybartlett9587]

Thanks

[@kayakerjack]

cool opening

[@TruckMan82]

I've recently discovered these videos, and am completely enthralled! Love learning and admiring your work! Are there any videos explaining how you measure moisture content?

[@joshuadunn882]

I think he has a fancy pin-less moisture meter that he just lays on the wood and it tells him what the moisture content is inside. A saucy bit of kit.

[@KarenMichelleLane]

Until today I have no idea How kiln dried wood was achieved. Thank you for sharing OoTW

[@nathanelliott9013]

KarenMichelle Lane thanks for watching

[@Fredrik3626]

Thanks for the excellent explanation of the cost and working of the kiln. Please, Please take good care of Mama Cat as she is a little doll. We just adopted a Main Coon cat that is similar in build to her. If you ever decide your cat is too much trouble give me a heads up and we will come over and pick her up. She is a little doll! Best Regards Fred Thomas in SKOKIE IL

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Give up my cat?? Never. Asking me to take good care of her is like asking the sun to shine 😎

[@debyfalkner8628]

Whenever you are on any of your farm equipment I expect to sleep Bruno riding with you.

[@briggsahoy1]

Interesting.

[@libertyauto]

Great video. I love to see this kind of stuff. Thanks for posting.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

your slab is in the kiln,

[@libertyauto]

I figured it might be. I watched for it, but didn't notice it in the video. Thanks for the update.

[@carolineb3527]

Well, as of yesterday I'm drinking my coffee out of a mug which says "OTW" on it, with a picture of axes and some trees - can't think whose logo that might be. And please don't roast Momma Cat, she won't taste good! 😁 PS I found your comments on 120v interesting. We only have 240v here in the UK so I know nothing about lower voltages - I still don't know much but it's more than before!

[@lapianissimo]

If the cat gets roasted, it would be a CATastrophe!

[@zlancenyc]

I'm trying to figure out if I can rig something up like this but smaller with a temp/breakdown setup.

[@markjarvis7637]

The wood ready to go on the mill, would it be a benefit to raise them of the ground??? posibley stopping some of the rot you sometimes find

[@budfahnestock2418]

just started attempting milling, i'm freehand cutting with a chainsaw and a 2x4 that i cut as straight as possible on a table saw to use as a guide, haven't cut anything wider than 18" but i'm having trouble figuring out how i'm gonna properly dry this. I have a pretty nice dehumidifier in my basement that keeps the room at about 40% and it stays at a constant 75f all year round, think it would be option to leave them down there with a fan pulling air away from the stack?

[@geraldharvill4699]

You could ago add some dehumidifiers, they serve two things a 70 pint unit will remove a lot of water and it settable to start bringing humdity down and the unit will add heat to the area. Also if you took the ceiling level up to a comfortable height, using the installation as a 7 ft ceiling. you could add more wood without as much work. You should be able to bring wood to almost the door. The flat fans could be mounted in Ceiling for greater air circulation. depending on which way fans are turned as to air rotation. Placing in the ceiling would also mean less air loss due to fans hitting wood stack and short cycing air back to the fan. The cost of adding ceiling air space is studding as you have the dividing material. Just a suggestion. And as far as adding vents air should be able to have fan to bring air in by temperature. I believe Northern Tools have them.

[@minproceng1218]

Gerald Harvill - The compressor that Nathan points out is for dehumidification. All a dehumidifier is is a refrigeration type compressor and an exposed cooling coil that is set up to collect moisture from the air and let it fall to a container. I am sure Nile has selected the capacity of the dehumidifier built in to the kiln to match the capacity of the kiln.

[@stevemaynerich6274]

When dying pine for dimensional lumber 2x4', do you air dry for a bit to get the "free water" out first or just go straight to the kiln? How long does it take to dry pine for dimensional lumber?

[@salazarpayne3784]

Absolutely beautiful brother. I'm going to start at the base level. Using a Granberg chainsaw Mill and just air drying the wood. I don't want to make a killing. But I sure would like to make a few hundred bucks here and there. Am I going to be an idiot if I try to sell slabs on the cheap without a kiln? I live in a warm dry climate, and I will make sure to sticker the wood perfectly level every 12 in. Around my parts we have fir, Pine, and smaller Oak than you folks have. I would sure appreciate a sentence or two from you to discourage me or encourage me. Either way, I love your Channel. I have been watching you since you first started. Good on ya and your family.

[@brucewrandol]

Amazon has solar powered roof vent fans for sale. Would they work for your exhaust fans in your kiln? They are meant to exhaust hot air from your attic in your house.

[@larrycounce4509]

What does boxelder sell for these days. I'm looking for a 6X6X12-18 " Please and thank you!

[@makingawesome8730]

Do you have experience with solar kilns? I'm newly getting into milling and am building a solar kiln. Are the benefits of an electric kiln worth the extra expense I guess? Total noob here I've just got a granberg for now but I'm trying to figure out if I should order the LX25 or the LT15Start. My business will be focused around free lumber for making things to sell rather than selling lumber. 225 acres in Appalachia

[@kirbyflk3969]

Great video as always and very informative... I am getting an lt35 soon and I’m wanting to build a shed for it what size beam would I need to span 21-25 feet so I can load a full siz log onto it?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Congrats on the new mill! As for your. Question that would be something to ask an engineer

[@johnschuster9192]

A 6" X 2' glue lam beam is what the fellas at the beam store had me use in my 24' garage...So a real wood beam would be 1' x3' x 24' I would think..24' is long span for any wood.It may still sag ..

[@tomst9417]

Did you consider a used 20" shipping container for the kiln instead of building the "box" ? I think the used container would have been less expensive but not sure. Perhaps a used container would be too large relative to your need and the heating capacity of the Woodmizer.

[@brucegarrett7232]

Do the extra fans reduce the overall drying time? The opening train shot is priceless.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yes

[@usapatriot4513]

That was a good course on how a kiln works and great tips. I’m glad you didn’t accidentally kiln dry your kitty that would be awful they do like to explore little covey holes and hide in small places cats you got to love them!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

she always runs out when the fans cut on,

[@kellybearden5697]

Can you just use a dehumidifier and fans to accomplish the same goal?. Dry wood

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Not properly no

[@artsmith4669]

What are the dimensions of the kiln? Wondering if someone could use a shipping container on put doors through the side of it, they clam they’re water and air tight.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Yes lots of people use containers for kilns. Depends on how big your DH unit is

[@chriswhitley3283]

Yeah, long time ago I built those little fans. Family run business in five states. And as usual about half of family only seen one big check and forced sell of the business of which most of the factories literally went south to Mexico.

[@rickywhisonant8902]

Just a suggestion. Make a sleep to fan / dry kiln video . Dark screen. I bet you’ll get hits. People love white noise.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks for the tip

[@dc102dc102]

IS IT BETTER TO KEEP YOUR LOGS UP OFF THE GROUND?

[@ku4ap]

Nathan, are there any advantages to using a so called “solar kiln?”

[@benjaminbrewer2154]

Energy, $35 a month. Solar kilns do work but at a slower rate, 2.5 to 3x. Might be able to build enough capacity to compete with Niles system.

[@patmatt975]

Plus, a solar kiln is way cheaper to build.

[@kevinhenry7273]

When the lumber comes out of the kiln do you have to keep it in a controled space to keep it from picking up moisture, or is it sealed by drying?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

yes,

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

any decent structure with a dehumidifier running,

[@AndrewAHayes]

How much more efficient is this than a solar kiln?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I have no experience with a solar one but I do hear from others than during Winter a solar kiln is not very efficient,

[@falfas55bgas]

How did you set the 9/4 walnut slabs on top of the 5/4 boards and still get your forks out? Looks like you only had 3/4" stickers between. I'd need to put 2x4's at least in order to have enough spacing to get my forks out.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

by hand unfortunately

[@davidboyd8822]

There are 3 types of people. Those who can count and those who can't.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

I fall in the latter category then,

[@woodlandburl6648]

Nice work. But, be careful that you don’t over dry the momma cat.😹😹😹

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

haha never,

[@anneoreilly4900]

What's your target moisture % ?

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

8to10

[@patmatt975]

Its pretty dry where I live. I can dry four quarter lumber to less than 10% just sitting in my shop.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

nice way too humid here to do that,

[@daveboyt6810]

Thanks for the video. I have a customer near San Antonio who is looking for boxelder. Will help you make contact, if you are interested.

[@Avendora]

Here is the plans for a 750-1000 board ft Solar Kiln put together by Virginia Tech. www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/content/dam/pubs_ext_vt_edu/420/420-030/420-030_pdf.pdf I'll be using this design once I get set up in the future. "The Virginia Tech solar kiln can hold up to 1,000 board feet of 1-inch thick lumber per charge (or load) and dry a charge in approximately one month of moderately sunny weather in the mid-latitudes of the United States."

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Nice

[@stanervin6108]

Wait a minute. Is your nickname Billy Badass or something like that?!

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

thats what I hear,

[@fazooleq1523]

I'm always nervous one of our cats will get locked in somewhere they shouldn't be. Now I'm gonna have nightmares about accidentally locking a cat in a Kiln.

[@exotictones1054]

Why do you need to get the heat out if your putting it in. Turn the heat down.it's like ma use to say you born in a barn,shut the door.

[@trex283]

You can diy everything for much less money. Maybe $300->$400.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@johno6861]

The purpose of kiln drying is to get it hot enough to kill all the spores and bug eggs. It is better to cook it first and then let it slowly air dry over a long period of time.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Wrong. Who told you that?

[@johno6861]

50 years of building wooden boats, if you want a laugh check out the humidity of construction, kiln died lumber. You are entitled to your opinion.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

If you heat it up first to 150 to kill the insects you will shock the wood and cause case hardening. Building boats and being a kiln operator are two totally different occupations. Thanks for watching

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Also my explanations are not an opinion but proper kiln procedures taught to me by Dr Gene at our yearly trainings.

[@caseygriswold8617]

You really need to get rid of the goo that's got your caps lock button stuck down.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

It’s my lap top. Tell ya what since it bothers you enough to comment I will send you my address and you can send me a new one. Appreciate it

[@caseygriswold8617]

@@OutoftheWoods0623 Send the address :) I'll send you a wooden laser engraved caps lock button, so maybe you'll think twice about jamming it down so much :D I'm not kidding, send me your address & I'll send you one, probably along with more laser engraved goodies as well. This was a good video btw, I watched it all the way through.

[@royreynolds108]

@@caseygriswold8617 It is a title. You did not pay attention to his answer which figures. You obviously have never read the poems of a cockroach who types only in the case the typewriter is stuck in. A suggestion: GET A LIFE OR LEAVE. We won't miss you. I love stirring the pot.

[@benjaminbrewer2154]

@@royreynolds108 run along Ron, take your own advise. Adding to the Cancer in the comments one character at a time.

[@cancelchannel3394]

Cheaper to build a solar powered kiln

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

probably but doesn't work as good, want the cheap you get the cheap,

[@cancelchannel3394]

@@OutoftheWoods0623 can bring moisture down to 7%, that's good enough for me

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

@@cancelchannel3394 can’t control the environment. Can’t use much on winter. Can’t set pitch on pine. Etc.

[@stanwebb3480]

Professor: I have 1 Question, When do we eat????????? Okay Greaaaaaaaat Review!!!!!!!!!! Was that 1,000 board feet we saw loaded up????? How long 1 week, ten days, 2 weeks until it is dry???? Show meter reading of how dry the wood is on Friday or did I give away your magic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nathanelliott9013]

Stan Webb 👍😁

[@fiendeng]

so 10 to $15,000 later I need to scatter box fans and construction lights all over the kiln 😐 wow. just wow

[@falfas55bgas]

You gotta be careful with the cat. A relative of mine had a new kitten and it was in the dryer and she didn't know it and turned it on. The kitten was dead and not a pretty sight or smell. A lot of crying. I had to to the burial.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

this cat is treated better than humans, I test the kiln before shutting the doors, the fan noise always runs her out, she hates it,