This is supposed to be IMPOSSIBLE - Minors on a 12 bass accordion

Thanks to "william nye" for this tip on building minor 7 chords!
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[@rudyharley7329]

What you are playing is m7 chord. You'll have better results when you decide to do the (non-destructive) modification. You can always go back to the original setup, but you won't.

[@roypettit1808]

This is fantastic! I can't afford a 24B accordion to get minor chords, but your video shows how to "fake" them on a less expensive 12B accordion. Thanks! Keep up the good work! :o)

[@paulr6127]

Interesting. Doesn’t have quite the minor sound but it’s fairly close. Gotta try this. Thank you Ronen and William Nye! 👍

[@squeezyjohn1]

Lovely to see a piano accordion player discovering some of the tricks that diatonic players have had to do for years!

[@Giratina493]

I've actually done something very similar on a 120-bass accordion before! There's a song I'm currently learning that has some big jumps in the original left hand arrangement I made... and since I'm a beginner they're just way too difficult. I ultimately re-arranged it to use chords that are *very* close to the original arrangement but are significantly easier.

[@moshezuchter]

Smart!

[@alexaramen18]

What I typically use this for is doing rootless voicing of 7th chords instead of using the bass button

[@jolenemayo7263]

Thank you William Nye for this input! Thank you also for the terrific videos for science ideas for young people! They were so engaging when I taught math and science at the secondary school level in California!

[@moshezuchter]

Thanks for teaching young minds!

[@williamnye478]

Sorry, I'm not Bill Nye the Science Guy. He's my distant cousin. William seems to be a well- used name in my family!

[@moshezuchter]

@@williamnye478 😀 send me an email and I'll get you some merch 🙂 [e-mail]

[@williamnye478]

@@moshezuchter That's unnecessary. I just thought I'd Share a little trick I learned from other accordionists. Hope it helps someone. It definitely opens up possibilities!

[@ParkGuel]

When i needed D minor on my diatonic accordion (there was only D maj) I was opening the accordion and mechanically closing F# in a chord by tape :) yeah, I know, it is weird, but I’ve got the 2 notes chord D-A and it fits for minor and major “pa”. It could sound a bit empty, but still “pa” !

[@moshezuchter]

That makes sense! Remove the third - the F# - and it can be a major or minor. Nice work 👌

[@mao-janlin6751]

Wow, never thought that the 12 bass accordion has this much potential!

[@moshezuchter]

So exciting!

[@sojogunn6249]

Wow this is great. Thanks so much for showing us this. Finally what I've been looking for on my 12 button. Now I REALLY love this little thing.

[@esmeraldamontiel1451]

A Big thank You !!!!! A have a little accordion too and I was feeling down cause of the limitations in the bass

[@rossdubois7668]

Great video! Super informative and I really appreciate the good audio and video quality.

[@moshezuchter]

Thanks Ross 🙂

[@tsioryandriamalala6225]

Hi there. Thanks a lot for this one, really helpful playing more songs on my 18bass accordion😁 Love from Madagascar

[@keijzer1147]

love using these chords. if you change the pattern from cmaj/a to cmaj/d it will produce a Sus4 chord. you can also change the cmaj/a into a cmin/a to change the chord from m7 to m6. you can make beautiful harmonies with these combinations, i hope you find this information useful😄

[@moshezuchter]

Ooooh, great ideas!!

[@bettinastadelmann]

Thank you so much for this great video...normally I'm playing piano, but about two weeks ago I bought a 12-Bass-Accordion...I wanted an instrument which I can easily transport...and then I was looking here on KZbin for a channel with tipps how to play accordion...🪗 and I found your channel...it's so great...subscribed...😃

[@the_glove]

You may be familiar but the term “voice leading” is something you already do but worth studying to make your chords smaller and stretches smaller. Have a look at at barry harris , laying your diminished on top of your major scale to build harmony as well. You’ll get a lot of good substitutions that way as well. You can think about putting a maj 6 in the bass too rather than thinking strictly root-five movement for major or minor chords (this is a really really old idea I got off barry harris and django) . When a jazz guitarist comps it’s normally in three or four voice chords in tight harmony , they use this voice leading on the 6th diminished scale harmonization to create root movement that sounds darn pretty and also to have a lot more economy of motion. This is also the fundamental element of choir singing as well

[@moshezuchter]

Ooooh, I'll give that a try, especially the non 1-3-5 chords 🙏 thanks for the information!

[@the_glove]

@@moshezuchter it’s worth noting the maj 6 can work on the first minor chord in the given minor key as well, for a dark sound . I also think using pedal point is a good way to get around needing extra chords/ bass notes : if you can keep the bass note the same and pedal the top notes , like bach or perhaps using an ostinato phrase as a pedal point . Idk it’s a rabbit hole

[@aodhmacraynall8932]

Your playing is very good.

[@moshezuchter]

Thanks Aodh. 🙏

[@IVANBRASIL77]

you are so cool my friend. I love your approach!

[@pjglory3348]

For a second there I got really excited. Bill Nye the Science Guy plays accordion too? Lol!

[@moshezuchter]

Bill Bill Bill!

[@raimogeel9497]

With a diatonic accordeon we use this a lot, only 8 buttons on a 2 row and 6 different bas chords. All are major. Some of these instrument you can remoce the third. No minor no major. And else you you play the m7 chord.

[@moshezuchter]

Ooh, good to know!

[@ryano.5149]

There is an old video of William Schimmel playing "Rhapsody in Blue" on a 12 bass. You can get a heck of a lot of music out of a 12 bass if you try hard enough!

[@moshezuchter]

Just watched it. Legend! kzbin.info/www/bejne/opuXfot7gJyLpdE

[@dcorrette]

G with B flat on mine says Judy Corrette

[@selleshappo]

Welcome to the world melodeon players live in 🤷‍♂️😊

[@milinkoprebiracevic3997]

You are not raplacing minors with majors cords. You are playing m7 coards (we call them septacords in my language). d minor is: D, F, A, but d minor7 is D, F, A ,C ( he contains F, A ,C or F major in him self), so if you play D basic and than F major it is d minor 7. They are mostly used in jazz and blues music. Sorry for some language mistaces:)

[@moshezuchter]

That makes total sense. Yes! Minor 7 chords. Thanks!

[@merryhunt9153]

I tried it. Cool!

[@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy]

Sounds pretty good, I've used this to fake B minor on 48 bass. In my view a new player should start on a bigger accordion than a 12 because they will learn more. These tricks are cool once you understand the music theory

[@moshezuchter]

Totally agree with you. A 12 bass is a good third accordion, but first accordions should be at least 72 bass, so no transposing or shortcuts needed.

[@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy]

@@moshezuchter My go to accordion is 72 but I'd not suggest any beginner to start with less than 48

[@triggerfish999]

So..you can block off the third (with tape) from each chord, giving you a modal 5th (two notes…e.g. C and G instead of CEG). Obvs you have to open the bass end to do this…but I’m a repairer and often sell these little boxes with thirdless chords…

[@moshezuchter]

Thanks Roger. I plan on doing this over the winter break :)

[@moshezuchter]

William! Please email me Ronen @ accordionlove.com and I'll get you some free merch!

[@kozulich]

Diatonic accordion players make these and other such substitutions quite frequently.

[@joshward7896]

Love your teaching style!!! What is the name of the first minor chord tune you played? I hear Amaleeth......

[@moshezuchter]

The Amelie Theme Song :)

[@joshward7896]

@@moshezuchter Thanks! Gona add it to my other tune....The Godfather Theme with minors and Majors

[@moshezuchter]

@@joshward7896 yup yup! Both awesome songs!

[@gabriellaguna2551]

those combs are minor 7º chords, right? sounds good anyway, after all it's thirds chaining

[@moshezuchter]

Yes. Minor 7 chords 🙂

[@Boris-wh1je]

Good Bay

[@glennsband1]

Nice ! What’s the official name of the minor song you played?? Really 👍🏾

[@moshezuchter]

I think it was Shastakovich's Second Waltz. My performance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hanJmJ2tZ69_jJY Lesson and sheet music on accordionlove.com :)

[@ivan_says_hi]

My brain can't unhear that it still sounds too much like a major. Pretty cool nonetheless. I've been using something similar to play minor or major 7ths on my 120 bass. It's very cool how versatile accordions are!

[@moshezuchter]

Yeah, that sound.... it's a minor 7 chord, so just on the verge of major :) But I prefer that oom-pa sound to the single note version.

[@nickraspa3171]

Those are called the relatives which make up the circle of fourths on accordion the basses go down for fourths and up for fifths

[@AyalSharon]

Why this obsession with the 3/4 waltz time “um-pa-pa” rhythm? Don’t accordion players play any songs in 4/4 time?

[@moshezuchter]

100% we do. Marches, polkas, tangos. All have the same fingering as the oom-pa, just different timing.

[@pt68picaso]

1:07 12 Bass? No. It's a 12 button bass accordion, 6 bass.

[@moshezuchter]

Correct!

[@ryano.5149]

Technically correct, but that's not how accordions are classified. When we talk about a 12 bass, or 48 bass, or 120 bass, that refers to the total number of buttons - both chords and bass notes. There are 40 buttons dedicated to the root and counter bass rows on a normal 120 bass accordion. Likewise, there are only six single notes on the bass side of a 12 bass. The other six are major triads. I hope that clears that up!

[@markcain9415]

He said William Nye and then flashed a photo of someone who sure looked like Bill Nye, the Science Guy. Did The Bill Nye actually offer up this info?

[@moshezuchter]

Sorry, it was meant as a joke. Some people named William go by "Bill", so when I said "William Nye" it reminded me of Bill Nye 😀

[@williamnye478]

Nope! I'm a different William Nye, a distant cousin.

[@GLucifero]

Can I ask you why you deleted my comment?

[@moshezuchter]

Hi Il Lucio, which comment did you post? Could have been accidental or possibly spam?

[@GLucifero]

@@moshezuchter I wrote that on a 12 bass you could play, besides min7th chords, also some 9/11 and Maj7/9 chords. Maybe the spam filter blocked the link I've added, it was a list with all combined chord charts for Stradella bass system accordions.

[@moshezuchter]

@@GLucifero cool! Yeah, I didn't remove that, it could've been because of the 9/11 in the comment?

[@GLucifero]

@@moshezuchter I didn't think about it but it could be the case...the 9/11 chords thing, the link, or both. What a difficult world!!

[@GLucifero]

@@moshezuchter Anyway, in case you are interested, the link was from my website and you can find it on my channel homepage. When you are there, click on "ALL CHORDS" on the main menu.

[@meier259]

Bravo!