This Is The Arcfox Alpha-S And It’s Proof We Need To Stop Ignoring Chinese Electric Cars

[@timgrinton6249]

Sandy Munro has been saying for a long time, look out when the chinese cars come to america. It will be like when the japanese came in the 70's 80's. This just proves his point.

[@isserdigan2835]

Yeah but Japan was not hostile to US when it happened. Half of the country will trash communist crap

[@jondevansky186]

Monroe should look at the Fisker Ocean, which is a derivative of this platform.

[@jellyd4889]

He should retire please.

[@h8GW]

And the Koreans by the early 2000's. Unfortunately, too many folks here in the US have their minds stuck 25 years ago and it'll come to bite them in the ass.

[@a675432100]

US will simply say they don't trust the Chinese to spy using the cars and the cars will be banned. That is how they protect their market. Remember Huawei?

[@scottbreseke716]

Acceleration: 0-60 in 4.0 seconds Price: about $59,000 Range: 374 miles

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

Those are very respectable numbers if true. Beats pretty much anything for the performance and range for the price if so

[@HidingAllTheWay]

The range is according to outdated and overly generous NEDC test cycle, under more moder and realistic test cycles it will most likely get sub-300 miles of range.

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

@@HidingAllTheWay The difference is not that big... is actually overly generous for ICE, for EV is closer. (WLTP is also optimistic compared to real drive) examples for Renault Zoe: - NEDC Range: 186 miles - WLTP Range: 179 miles - Real Range: 146 miles probably WLTP for this car would be ~350 miles, real range ~290 miles

[@levelazn]

america is catching up to chinese standards in EV

[@HidingAllTheWay]

@@johnsmith-cw3wo where did you get those stats? They are completely wrong. The 41kWh Zoe Q90 (the only model to have ratings under both test cycles I could find) had 230mi NEDC range and 186mi WLTP one.

[@jeffreyspencer4005]

I have a Chinese EV--It's called a Polestar 2!!😆

[@birdyashiro1226]

PogU

[@shepherdsknoll]

Yes indeed, and the Polestar is one of the few EVs that are connected to the internet.

[@the_lost_navigator7266]

And the bmw EVs are built in China too.

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

@@the_lost_navigator7266 Also, I believe Toyota will essentially be a BYD car with Toyota building the car body only.

[@edwardtang1977]

Polstar precept is damn nice.

[@joshualewis3337]

GB port on the left hand side of the car is for DC only. The right hand AC port looks like a type 2 European port but is not compatible. These ports will be replaced in the coming years by the new chaoji standard (combined AC and DC port).

[@paulw575]

The "Discharge Mode", with the ability to set a percentage threshold to cut off, sounds like a vehicle to load functionality.

[@gethecar]

I like that name ArcFox. They should move into the US/EURO markets

[@Ianmundo]

if we’d seen this car at the time as the Tesla Model 3 launched, it would have blown minds 🤯 Chinese automakers are really coming along

[@RWBHere]

Great review guys. Thanks! 🙂👍 Let's see how they correct the little errors and language issues with labels, before it becomes available for purchase. 15:40 Nearly as warm as the temperature thus morning in England! 19th July, 2022. We'll hit 41° today. It doesn't always rain here. 😉

[@LaowaiDaveJCP]

I currently live in China, see tesla & many other excellent Chinese EVs on the street everyday, getting one myself, never heard of this car haha

[@lizheng4453]

I'm an arcfox user. Mine is arcfox alpha T the SUV. Really cool car though not quite popular among Chinese.

[@georgepelton5645]

To get that "jump off the line," induction motors are best, since they can produce full torque at 0 rpm. PM motors cannot produce full torque until they get to 5-10 rpm. At a standstill they can only use one of their three stator windings. Induction motors can use all three windings at 0 rpm since the stator magnetic field can be asyncronous with the rotor orientation.

[@h8GW]

This might actually be better for the tires to not get the full torque instantly.

[@Guznur213]

Excellent review! When a car carries the "Huawei" badge, you know you won't be disapointed! Good job guys!👍

[@h8GW]

That's not a Huawei badge. It looks more like a mix of Maserati and an antelope charging you.

[@Guznur213]

@@h8GW This car is " powered by Huawei’s HI (Huawei Inside) solution. It combines a HarmonyOS-powered smart display on the interior and Huawei’s HiCar solution capable of level-3 autonomous driving"

[@alexlo7708]

It uses Huawei autonomous driving.

[@LL-ls8es]

If it’s related to huawei, we won’t see it in the US due to sanction

[@aletaschulz1108]

Impressive....soft is excellent for daily driving or senior drivers. ArcFox is to be watched out for.

[@Breen933]

I recognize that Magna test track from some videos that Fisker released of the Ocean there!

[@WisdomAndCats]

There is an 27.5% punitive tariff on Chinese made cars into the US, that's why we won't see most of them in the US anytime soon.

[@h8GW]

Of course, they could just build a factory here -although I'm sure the QC will go down.-

[@dt8101]

That's why Geely made a deal with Renault Korea to produce cars in Korea (most likely Lynk 01) and export them to US because Korea and US have FTA.

[@Zweigenhaft9]

Soft and Floaty but settled while being a hooligan is all I’ve ever wanted in a car, but it’s always either/or in our current market

[@tldrinfographics5769]

You mean physical reality limit

[@henrymatthews9365]

I've got similar mats in my Lexus protects all the carpet pretty amazing. Mine actually fits way better nice and tight in all corners.

[@spicydragon3881]

This is a really exciting time. So much innovation coming all at once. If a lot of these brands start making their way over to European and N. American markets Tesla is in for A LOT of competition. I've had my Telsa Model Y on order now for OVER a year, honestly considering cancelling and going with the BMW i4 M50, opinions??

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

The teslas are pretty boring. Style wise. You'll need to love the bmw grill tho 😆 😆

[@thatdude123]

@@onetwothreefour-s1n I love that grill already

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

@@thatdude123 😆 🤣 good news then

[@spicydragon3881]

@@onetwothreefour-s1n I absolutely HATE the BMW grille but I like the rest and figure I cant see it when Im driving and I can always park it nose in so I dont have to look at it - lol - btw agree on boring styling w Tesla, they need to do something at this point to keep it fresh.

[@mviv6339]

i4 steering feedback is vague

[@georgecostanza2695]

I like my power windows at full speed all the time… can’t stand how Mercedes does it where it normally moves slow, but speeds up for auto up and down.

[@maicol67]

This is awesome. Competition wake up calls and hey folks your not the only ones on this planet is always good for the consumer. As soon as they start to mass produce especially in China India & EU = over 2 billion people, manufacturers will def raise an eyebrow

[@terrencebiggane8648]

Great video. I finally found a review of a Chinese EV in which some moderately aggressive driving is being enjoyed. I'm so tired of other reviewers spending inordinate amounts of time reviewing the touch screen functions.

[@paulf3353]

It is BAIC Group, they're joint venture with Mercedes. Not surprising there are a lot of sort of MB parts.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

More to the point, now we know where MB get their parts!

[@cyphernada6839]

Interestingly how a Chinese like myself has learned how this Chinese car drives through an US car reviewer :D I seriously have never considered this model or even this brand, now I might give it a shot.

[@dt8101]

It's front wheel drive though. So nope.

[@ensteffo]

@@dt8101 Not everyone must drive up steep snowy hills.

[@royrauch9775]

As of yesterday the Euro and the American dollar are in parity (equal in value for uninformed) first rime in 30 years, so that car is now under $40K U.S dollars.... too bad NOT AVAILABLE in America!

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

America imposes a large duty fee on imported vehicles made in China. I've read as high as 27.5%. Not so inexpensive as you think it would be.

[@hongweizhou1083]

There are quite a few competitive ev's at model 3's price range in China. Hopefully some of them will enter the US to finally give tesla some pressure.

[@undefined69695]

No thanks, keep your communist shit in your own country.

[@TheKelly1925]

Don't we buy enough stuff from China?

[@byhyew]

@@TheKelly1925 Then ask your politicians to un-ban Chinese companies from setting up factories and employing in the US.

[@roboticvenom1935]

same with us

[@ensteffo]

@@TheKelly1925 The US sells cars in China so China should be able to offer models in the US.

[@dex2]

I wish there were 2 reviews, one of them is a summarized review, one is an in depth review like this one.

[@zeedustrakok]

This might sell really well in Europe if they were to sell it. Guess this will be an ID aero competitor that costs less and offers more.

[@神成子]

You think too much. We won't sell cheap products in the future，Next year, we will introduce new laws to prohibit the export of all products with high energy consumption and low profits！

[@michaelwbsin]

Will you review the NIO ET7? That’s supposed to be a true E-Class competitor and it looks cleaner and less gaudy than this Arcfox. NIO already has R&D facilities in the US. If they sell their cars here, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re made in the South or some other low-wage state with similar labor costs and worker protections as China.

[@krafter324]

I love a soft suspension that still handles well. Don't do much slalom driving :)

[@blubaru09]

I always enjoy your deep dives into the settings! Geekily entertaining.

[@darknessislight3689]

Beautiful styling 😍 everything they do is light years ahead of us 🇺🇸🥺 we’re the stone age in comparison 🫣🫢

[@kentyler3962]

We are not ignoring Chinese electric cars. We just get stuck with cheap Kandi cars that are only neighborhood electric vehicles (NEV's) that only go 30 mph. Still waiting for better options in the affordable EV market.

[@freddiecarr7602]

For an impromptu test----what a great vid!!!

[@d.e.7467]

KZbin channel Fully Charged (U.K. based) has had a correspondent in China for quite some time.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

That would mean the Euro, Japanese, Korean and US cars step up their quality. That's good.

[@alexnutcasio936]

The quality is the newer Teslas since 2020 has been quite good and rarely an issue with gaps, paint etc. Meamwhile, Chinese and Korean cars tend to have a horrible resale value

[@dillonk5573]

@@alexnutcasio936 I just drove a new m3 with 2k miles the door panels were falling off on the drivers side. Not good

[@h8GW]

@Alex NutCasio Of course they have a low resale value. Tons of folks still have a mental image of "cheap garbage", even still with the Koreans. Minds get stuck a quarter of a century in the past. Tho TBH, I'd be a bit wary of Korean cars from more than 15 years ago -but not as much as a German car.-

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@h8GW rightly earned or not, it’s all about the image.

[@hammertlme]

When will we see your Fisker Ocean review?

[@chaseh23]

Man I love the Chinese EV’s. Really hope NIO will make it to the US soon.

[@chuckgoodwish3897]

I have never ignored Chinese EVs. As a matter of fact, I have paid a lot of attention to the EVs manufactured in China for the past several years. I always wish I could get one of BYDs or NIOs in the US, however I don't think my wish can be fulfilled in a very near future. But I will never give up hoping though.

[@joelabandeira9858]

what was that in the sky at the 7:39 minute time on your clip upper left side of you it looks like a big bird does a nose dive then stops then disappears ?

[@Jeddin]

I’ve noticed in Europe you have noted a lot of signs that you can’t read. In the google app if you use the lens function it will real time auto translate whatever langage you point the camera to.

[@omelvold]

Cool! Are you coming to Norway this time? Lots of Chinese cars you should be able to test here. Hongqi e-HS9, NIO ES8 (and battery swapping station), Xpeng P7 and VOYAH Free, BYD Tang, MG 5 and Marvel etc.

[@DouglasJMark]

Very interesting. Looks like an Olds Aurora 😎. BTW, I get car sick watching you drift cars. Thanks! 😅

[@lyfandeth]

I find the best way to test a stability system is to drive at any speed over 10mph and make a hard u turn. The car will go mushy and usually cut back the throttle, as compared to the exact same turn with stability off. Which can be a negative if you need to make a hard fast turn or start. And always, a disturbing feel as it changes your turn. No tire burns needed, just a hard turn.

[@badimpulses17]

Sandy Monroe said the Chinese EV will dominate the American market in the future.

[@Mguy393]

Except for the entire cyber security nightmare thing....... Connected Chinese cars full of cameras and microphones will not fly in the US Market. China is already banning Tesla cars from certain regions when events critical to their national security are occurring.

[@str33tkng]

Underrated comment! I’m a vet and in cyber security, this is definitely a thing!

[@knightstemplar4274]

Totally agree, it's a hot topic that needs more light for other people and Kyle for instance that China hasn't been very trustful with their products and trade. Very sketchy County it has become.

[@Destorrrrr]

The Chinese EVs will come pre-loaded with TikTok that will prompt you to sign up every 15 seconds until you acquiesce and provide the CCP with all your data

[@Mguy393]

@@Destorrrrr 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@theodorehaskins3756]

So this is much to do about nothing as there are no more secrets, and with the latest supreme court ruling taking away a woman's right to have control over her body opening the door to where the government can no longer be restricted from going, and asking anyone to reveal under punishment of law their most private intimate details on their pregnancy, and to empower private citizens to sue anyone that helps a woman to take care of their healthcare needs, this radical court has not only undermined our a basic freedoms and protections under the Constitution, but they have giving voice to these Republican controlled states like Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida. So the US has now joined the authoritarian dictatorships in places like Russia, China and North Korea and all the other dictatorships around the world where they can do anything to you and you can't do nothing about it, because we just allowed the Supreme Court that is not so supreme to basically make decisions for all the rest of us, 5 judges who has jobs for life and they have determined that under their decisions our Rights that supposed to be guaranteed under the Constitution that no State government need to respect. So they have undermined the basic tenants of the Constitution and overstepped their authority just like they did in 2000 where they intervened in a political struggle that allowed George W. Bush to win the presidency and now because they have gutted the pre-clearance provisions of the “voting rights act” and taken away a woman's right to choose should she decide to terminate a pregnancy, what else is left? So there are no more secrets and the US is no longer the leader of the free world, as we’re now just another totalitarian state and the people have been robbed of every protection that's so many folks have fought and died for over the years, and we have an insurrectionist twice impeached disgraced X president still not under arrest for leading an angry, seditionist, insurrectionist, mob in attacking the very government he swore an oath to protect and he’s still out there selling his big lie that the election he lost, was stolen.

[@CJ-rk5eg]

I love the fact that at :50 into the video, what looks like the Ineos Grenadier drives by in the background…LOL

[@CJ-rk5eg]

Oops…it’s a G wagon

[@rogerstarkey5390]

All built by Magna.

[@Indy_at_the_beach]

Kestrel diving for prey at 7:40 Discharge mode may be V2G The level of quality and refinement at this price point illustrates how much extra we are paying for comfort in Western manufacturers. We are pushed into the high margin trims by the punitive de-contenting of the base models. If and when the Chinese come to America they will skin the likes of Cadillac, Mercedes,Tesla and any other pretender to luxury.

[@tesla-spectre]

Handing Kyle a car, keys and no rules... what can go wrong? 😀 great review. Development reminds me of Japanese cars in my youth and Koreans in the 90s. Both were laughed at and looked down upon in Germany when it started, then eventually Toyota became the standard for build quality (though they seem to go down in last yrs). Hyundai was considered to produce super cheap ugly cars until the i20 and i30 came and now they are with Kia in the forefront of EV design and standards with Ioniq (old and 5) and EV6. that is always the same because people love what they know and are traditional (change is hated by most, I made a TED talk magic of change in 2019 where I showed the reasons), so needs time.

[@roboticvenom1935]

and then lexus ls400 shit on them for over a decade

[@ichigo19870]

Haha I LOVE that sound when you turn it on and off :D

[@birdyashiro1226]

1st time hearing this brand, and I am already liking it

[@nathanwolf5547]

I drive a Chinese car. In fact one of the best sellers here in the UK and Europe if the MG ZS EV, now on version 2

[@jellyd4889]

Best seller my a****

[@nigelweir3852]

Not sure but think magna also produce the Jaguars ipace in Austria

[@michalklucz6907]

one comment, by definition, adaptive headlamps don't have to be matrix. every matrix is adaptive, not every adaptive is matrix.

[@ZAVADICHR]

Current price in china: 525 km range - 67,3 kW - $32.500 708 km range - 93,6 kW - $38.700

[@garyclark6747]

Would like to get your impressions on how it compares to your dad’s GV60. Remind him not to stuff it in a corner depending on regenerative braking.

[@aaronharstine881]

anyone realize the logo is a nearly identical to star treks starfleet delta logo but upside down. They should start naming the car models 'enterprise' & 'voyager'🤣

[@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry]

(ﾉﾟ0ﾟ)ﾉ

[@e-trippingwithadamgebbett8024]

Wow, a Chinese car that feels like a Merc. Watch out German automakers. Did they give a Euro price range.

[@welfiblablabla]

Why'd they feel the need to put in a no smoking sign 😅 Also that tolls for Austria, Slowenia and one specific highway have been paid

[@tmuny1380]

This car is awesome ! I heard in future models they are going to put miniature windmills on the roof ! That way it'll be self-sustaining and never have to be recharged ! These guys are geniuses !

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

😆 🤣

[@terrymoser2028]

Competition is good for consumers. Hoping for a smaller EV but not a toy at a reasonable price. Don't need a lot of tech. Just save.

[@igeekone]

As Sandy Munro mentions, we better wake up to the flood of Chinese BEVs. These are high quality BEVs that will do what Honda and Toyota did in the 80s and 90s.

[@Josh-179]

And China is waaay ahead of the Japanese brands in EVs, amazingly. Japan didn't want to accept an all EV future so they are behind.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

To prevent customs surcharges, the Chinese manufacturers will need to open assembly plants in North America. This is what Honda and Toyota did, in Canada, in order to be competitive in terms of pricing back in the early '80s.

[@dt8101]

@@ScubaSteveCanada They can open factories in Korea and export to USA because Korea and USA/EU have FTA. That's why Geely made a deal with Renault Korea.

[@tonyb3629]

When a car isn't made or sold in the US or Europe, buyers have no choice but to ignore them. Even reviews are pointless as litterally no-one will ever see one, let alone drive one. I guess you can look at the technology, but that's about it.

[@pschweiz]

So other than the soft settings and probably the charging speed, why does it not get sold in Europe?

[@arm2644]

You should try the new Cadillac Lyric and compare it to this Arcfox Alpha-S, I don't know why but they look very similar, I bet this two cars share the same platform and maybe the Cadillac is produced by the Magna assembly plant in China too!

[@rlaracue]

Looks like two shots of the Ineos eSUV that is planned. :).

[@davidhurd3222]

Sony take note! This is the design that your future care needs! Your future sedan and suv designs are just about as exciting any 1970's GM products -> take your pick as they were all horrible!

[@byddf]

Polyphony and Gran Turismo CAN'T stop ignoring them!!!

[@approverman]

the Floor mats are similar to what you have in the Imperium. So I dont think it's after market.

[@GOVAUS1]

The great thing is that those non Tesla Evs are getting better and compete NOT with Tesla but with all remamining ICE cars really.

[@adriancooper78]

I want one!!!😃 Wow!!! Insane!

[@byddf]

Safer than BYD Han in a Dongchedi 1-1 crash test (car vs car) in China July 2021

[@seanlee3863]

please review the ZEEKER 01

[@n0m0]

I thought it is Ioniq 6 for a second.

[@achtenhagen]

I don’t understand the lack of front trunk. It’s basically an EV essential.

[@robertkempe2730]

Only for the Tesla fanboys..... Although I can see the point for EV work trucks carrying material and tools, a vast majority of EV buyers won't give a rat's ass.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Very inconvenient. a front trunk requires you to open the hood first, and then the front trunk. It's unheated/cooled. I have one and never use it.

[@achtenhagen]

@@ScubaSteveCanada what’s the difference between opening the hood vs the rear hatch? Once open it’s open. There are perfectly fitted coolers that fit into the frunk so you won’t take up trunk space. It’s very convenient.

[@darknessislight3689]

We 🇺🇸 need too leave the old ways of think 💭 behind and catch up with the rest of the world 🌍

[@jameel3031]

Nice review. But arcfox sounds a very good name

[@tedhu262]

Koreans will give them run for money. New ioniqs are impressive.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Hyundai Motor Group has 30+ years of dealing in North America. Not so much for Chinese made EVs.

[@OneWheelMan]

The reasons they're usually ignored is because they're usually only sold in China, so people outside of China will likely ignore them because they can't buy them anyways, so it won't matter how good it is or what it costs. If they make a vehicle that I have the option of buying and using, I'm a LOT more likely to pay attention (in my profile picture I'm riding an electric unicycle that came straight from China) But in short, the title for this video is misguided....things are being ignored because they're irrelevant to people who don't have the option of buying them in the first place.

[@DaddyBear205]

If aliens test their UFO 🛸 I’d like to watch thru

[@grambo1980]

Sandy has been saying for a while that the Chinese will be a big player

[@folag]

Remember how everyone laughed at Toyota during the '60s? It didn't take long. . . . .

[@doctor_who1]

Is this a lift back or sedan

[@funthor5070]

ignoring? I am an engineer here in Germany and I am telling you, Chinese electric cars are the best and nobody here dares to ignore them. I am wondering who is ...?

[@h8GW]

Well, he's an American, so he's familiar with people who will only think of American muscle cars or pickups as "good" cars.

[@wageslave387]

Your mic is way too close to you. The sound of narration is very harsh. An audio engineer could probably explain this better.

[@radioboss5911]

give the price in china for china market please , and surprises may await you,

[@solo2r]

Wheels look like my E trons!

[@jonlosito2004]

Doug DeMuro thumbnail 😏😏😏

[@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry]

The outline of the center seat looks like Barney the dinosaur...

[@venom5809]

That’s a nice looking car.

[@maccaceres4268]

Will be nice to find a not trills cheap ev, price range $25K for a review. We need a "model T" of a car for the mass market, don't need of all the electronics just a well functional safe car in order to get a regular working class to buy EVs. I know the Chinese have built it and they need to bring it to Europe and here in the US.

[@sim73505]

Really impressive. It will low price of electrics cars 👌 with really efficient cars

[@TLH788]

Don't underestimate this vehicle dude ...look pretty cool 😀

[@shadowtiger2363]

Most people I know will never purchase electric vehicles. They love their gas vehicles. Ice vehicles will be around for a very long time. One of the big issues for alot of people I know is they can't tinker at an electric vehicle as there is very little customising for them.

[@Carl_in_AZ]

🔌🔌I'm impressed by many of the Chinese vehicles for their quality per dollar but find it hard to support or promote *CCP state-owned businesses* like Arcfox which is part of the Beijing BAIC Group. When government-owned companies attempt to dilute (DUMPING) the market using automotive labor rates less the $9,000/year versus global average rates of $40,000/yr all we are doing is supporting countries that do not support human rites. They will drive good companies like BMW and other fair trade companies out of business. Look at what happened to the solar panel market.🔌🔌

[@FeisarX]

Nailed it.

[@barisbolat7152]

There is no 9000$ Job in China

[@johnlee9688]

Would you buy a Tesla made in the Shanghai factory?

[@barisbolat7152]

@@johnlee9688 I bought already. Driving for 2 years

[@Carl_in_AZ]

@@barisbolat7152 I was chatting with my Chinese engineering manager counterpart and you are correct. We pay some of the highest rates in our foundry production line which runs between 3-5000 USD /yr.

[@CHMichael]

I like it.

[@isserdigan2835]

Slams the charge port. Surprising nice build quality.. LMAO

[@pandroidigital]

00:35 It's 'AN' Arcfox 😏

[@bidon5037]

Looks like Sandy Munro is right about chinese cars.

[@xsleep1]

What is it Sandy Munro keeps saying? "Watch out for the Chinese."

[@motluv]

If we live in the United States, and this car isn’t available to us, it is an interesting watch, but doesn’t do anything for us.

[@MrHOREEE]

Well i like Acrfox Alpha T

[@robert5008]

Kyle more Chinese car reviews please. You and Tom need to go to China for a month someday. Looking forward to the day Chinese cars come to the US. That's the day our OEMs roll their eyes saying "oh shit".