This is Torture Not Treatment for Mental Illness

[@joshuahermanson341]

(Possibly) Controversial take: I think Mads Mikkleson did a much better performance as Hannibal Lecter than Hopkins, Cox, or Ulliel (RIP). I remember reading that his interpretation was as if he were Lucifer (not literally, obviously) enamored of humanity, which is why he favors all the finest things in terms of food, music, clothing, etc and had a fascination with all of human experiences in their extremes. But still, just slightly disconnected from humanity himself. I thought that was a fascinating take on it.

[@lostsouldown]

not controversial, rather a brilliant take!

[@Missjunebugfreak]

Honestly as much as I adore Hopkins performance, I think Mads really nailed the Hannibal Lecter's devilish charm and terrifying malevolent nature. Plus it also helps that's he's very attractive. 🔥

[@FesterSilently]

Hopkins was (a brilliant) proof-of-concept. Mads was the paradigm.

[@ClichéGuevara-2814]

@@FesterSilently Hopkins upped the hammy-fey quotient exponentially, with each subsequent portrayal. And his accent went straight to parody.

[@FesterSilently]

@@ClichéGuevara-2814 100% agreed.

[@cartertoro3902]

Hannibal is so odd because he'll pretend to be ethical to fit in then one second later manipulate someone into doing something horrible 😂

[@coribug42]

No, no, no. He never works with a blank slate. There is always a touch of darkness in the patients he pushes.

[@killme5630]

Is that odd or malicious😂

[@jessycac6311]

I think it's because he believes what he's doing is good. The man has a major god complex (or at the least is a narcissist), and likely believes his way of doing things is what's right, even if it's considered bad by others. He wants people to "get in touch" with their darkness. Not sure why, maybe to let them be free. Maybe he considers it a gift to them - he thinks he's helping them. Sorry, idk, I'm just expressing my interpretation of his character.

[@Nezumi99]

@@jessycac6311 he is literally a psychopath

[@physicianskitchen]

@@jessycac6311 kind of like jordan peterson who says you have to be dangerous to be good or smth or other

[@howdykate2776]

It's worth noting that the books that Hannibal is based on (mostly The Red Dragon) were written in the 80s. The show brings it to the 2010's but some of the important story beats and mental health components remain a little dated.

[@ElijahSmith-kx6hp]

It is not necessary to put them down to prop him up but yes indeed it is an expert portrayal of The Hannibal Lector.

[@marcellegault9752]

great reaction. Looking forward to your next hannibal reaction in 8 months :)

[@hardcrowley1549]

its been eight months

[@QueenArielViolet]

It should be noted: Both in the original book series and in the show Hannibal, Dr. Chilton is portrayed intentionally as both an unethical and highly incompetent psychiatrist.

[@maryholmes184]

Hannibal is one of my favorite series. It's just so so good. Please react to more episodes. For your question: I believe that psychopaths don't have a sense of the wrong while sociopaths do have that but ignore it. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a professional just living with bipolar, bpd and trauma and an ed.

[@CleoHarperReturns]

I wish they'd have gone more seasons💔

[@evalunanera6157]

Psychopaths understand good and evil, they even can afraid of but they don't care. It's like to be kind of blind. Although of they concentrate on any emotions they can even feel them in some way.

[@CleoHarperReturns]

@@evalunanera6157 I think of psychopathy/antisocial behavior/etc as a sliding scale. Like being on a completely different kind of spectrum.

[@tirzah9929]

I believe we've transitioned from words like sociopath and psychopath to anti social personality disorder. There are not(to my knowledge) scientific definitions for those two words, because they are not used concretely.

[@CleoHarperReturns]

@@tirzah9929 Nicely worded.

[@mossomness]

I was so happy to see you react to another episode!!! This was a great one to react to. A quote I enjoy from later in the show about sociopaths: “the term sociopath hasn’t been used by any respected psychiatrist since 1968.” I thought it was fitting with the discussion.

[@Sinewmire]

I'm not sure if it's outdated terminology by accident, or if they're taking dialogue directly from 35 year old novels. It's hard not to see Eddie Izzard in comedy roles, but he's clearly representing the Hannibal Lector we know from Silence of the Lambs here.

[@ashtonmackle4242]

Having been in a mental hospital in America, we didn't have a padded cell as such but each ward had a "quiet room" with a mattress on the floor and some padding on the walls, mostly to dull the noise from the outside more than to stop you from hitting the wall. Mostly they would have people sit in there after getting an Ativan injection if they were getting out of control.

[@ouijacorn]

Is it common to get really agitated after an ativan injection?

[@vagrantclown]

My ward had a quiet room too! I asked to sit in it when I had a lot of stress induced hallucinations and I didn’t want to be alone at night

[@ashtonmackle4242]

@@ouijacorn Nah, it's that the Ativan was the drug they used to calm an agitated person down in extreme cases and then they would have them sit in the quiet room to allow the drug to kick in while not overstimulating the patient. Again super rare, only seen it done once but it happens.

[@ashtonmackle4242]

@@vagrantclown yeah usually people would sit in there because they wanted to have some space, especially if they had a difficult roommate and felt overwhelmed

[@ouijacorn]

@@ashtonmackle4242 ohhh, interesting. I was given Ativan in the hospital once when I was stressed out by a medical procedure (not *that* stressed out, though, I don't know why they did this tbh) and it made me extremely agitated, so I was wondering if that's a common reaction. Sounds like it's not, though.

[@BadassRaiden]

The biggest difference is empathy and conscience. Sociopaths have both, but are nonetheless likely to behave unempathetically due to the nature of their erratic behavior. Psychopaths have neither empathy or a conscience, but can feign empty compassion if it suits them. I actually read that psychopaths might actually have empathy and a conscience but, for whatever reason, can simply turn it off at will, and experience no long term or short term emotional trauma as a result of their actions towards others. To be honest, I think that is way more frightening than simply not having the capacity for empathy at all.

[@tim4pele]

My (limited) understanding is that "psychopath" would usually describe someone with physical neurological differences that were pretty much there from birth and result in inability to feel empathy, zero conscience, little emotional affect, incapable of feeling guilt or remorse. They tend to be cold, callous, calculating, and even tempered. Most aren't violent. A lot of them learn to become very good mimics so they can hide their nature. Sociopaths would usually describe someone who's less "wired differently" and likely more a result of environment. They are capable of feeling empathy, remorse, and guilt but they're extremely stunted and undeveloped. They tend to be more hot headed, impulsive, opportunistic, and unstable. Also more prone to being violent. Less likely to be good mimics since they don't have as much control over their impulsivity and emotions as psychopaths do. Psychopath: Anton Chigur from No Country for Old Men Sociopath: Tommy DeVito from Goodfellas

[@WileyCylas]

Dang I keep rewatching this show. Miss it so much. Wish we could have a season 4…..

[@Antony_Oscar]

I'm a huge Hannibal fan and find these videos super interesting! Hoping you'll do plenty more of them.

[@hellopeople6138]

One of my best friends ever is a “sociopath”. At least that's what he told me. He definitely expresses compassion/empathy for some things but due to some severe trauma in his life, he often disconnects from his emotions. Disorders like these are often villainized and straight up discriminated against and it's so sad because a lot of the times people with them are victims of abuse.

[@curlybrace01]

From what I understand, neither psychopathy nor sociopathy are actual diagnoses but both categories tend to contain mostly people who would be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder. The main difference seems to be that sociopaths simply operate without much empathy and do whatever they feel they need to get ahead while psychopaths are the violent subset of aspd, often ending up in legal trouble for things like assault.

[@ramcoa]

I'd just like to add that it's the other way around - sociopaths are the supposed 'impulsive' subset of ASPD whereas psychopaths are the more plan-focused, callous & unemotional trait-type ASPD. Even then, however, it doesn't really matter, as those are only pop culture terms that are derived off of ASPD as a diagnosis. Sociopath isn't a genuine medical term. Psychopath used to be, but it's more of an identifier of those in prison populations than it is a diagnosis in and of itself.

[@gacchan]

I love that you did more of this show, I love Eddie Izzard. Also, I think given the psychiatric hospital, some of the outdated terms, the source material is from the early 80s, not that it couldn't/wasn't updated and uses things wrong, but I try to give some leeway. Also fantasy magic pyscho doctor manic pixie dream boy is a bit much, but I LOVE HIM. He's so suave. I'd love a video on hybristophilia if you ever do one.

[@somethingclever8916]

The series came out a decade ago, so things are going to be dated. I doubt this show would be made today

[@barbara832001]

I think the psychopath/sociopath terms aren't used anymore, I think the DSM classifies them under antisocial personality disorder. I always thought the difference between the two was related to what the person did. For instance sociopaths lacked empathy like psychopaths, but used that to advance their status at work for example. Psychopaths would exhibit violent behavior, such as a serial killer.

[@CleoHarperReturns]

Gosh I love it when you analyze Hannibal.💜

[@AnnekeOosterink]

Hurray! Hannibal is back! afaik psychopath and sociopath are only used colloquially and not as a diagnosis, and often they're used interchangeably by the people who do use the terms. Hannibal just casually sharing information about his patients, he's not particularly concerned with professional ethics. He only cares to be perceived as concerned with ethics by certain people. :P I can't remember if it's in this episode, but he's also sharing information about Will with his boss! Not great, but then, Will isn't his patient, they're only having conversations... XD

[@Purple79Angel]

Elliot, I have depression, anxiety and no Psychiatrist to talk to, just to get meds. Your videos calm me an, in and ideal world, I would choose you to be my doctor. Thank you for your channel.

[@akechetasavage7658]

Absolutely love these Hannibal reactions!!

[@jbach1738]

I am a big Eddie Izzard fan, and absolutely loved watching them in every moment of this role. Such amazing talent.

[@acrefray]

What I've heard as a "oversimplified rule of thumb" for the difference between psychopath and sociopath is: A psychopath doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. A sociopath knows the difference but doesn't care. I know that time has changed the definitions of both, but this is what I learned several years ago.

[@sheilaabille1470]

Thank you for another Hannibal analysis! I’m glad that you keep on coming back to this MASTERPIECE! I’ve watched your previous Hannibal insights and I learned a lot. Hoping and waiting for another one. 🙂💚

[@kyuminnie137]

I have watched many reactions for Hannibal and so far, yours are my absolute favorite! It’s insightful and entertaining

[@BelgorathTheSorcerer]

I've heard that "psychopath" and "sociopath" are officially used interchangeably; however the connotation for a psychopath is usually someone that isn't particularly well organized and they are not as easily able to blend into society. A psychopathic serial killer for instance would be someone who may stalk their prey, and go through a ritual during the murder, but they aren't going to be thinking so much about clean up, they might use something from the murder scene as a weapon and leave it behind, they may not have a job or perform a very menial job, and nobody is particularly surprised to find out they are a murderer when they get caught. I think someone like Richard Ramirez fits into this category. A sociopathic killer though implies they much better organized. They bring a weapon, they have a plan for destroying potential evidence, and their neighbors are both mortified and utterly shocked when the cops drag 37 bodies out from under the house of the killer accountant. Even their spouse and children may have no clue what they were up to, because they are so good at pretending to be normal. Israel Keyes was the one that got under my skin the most from this category. I'm actually glad he killed himself. Psychopaths and sociopaths aren't necessarily murders and criminals though. Some of them are big shot corporation owners and politicians. Some are conmen and rakes. That's just what I have gathered from TV and movies.

[@alliem8700]

I was recently showing my dad Hannibal, and we coincidentally had tickets to an Eddie Izzard show at the same time as we got to the Abel Gideon episodes. I've rewatched Hannibal many times and seen Eddie live 4 times, but my brain still had a few moments of "wait a sec...". Had a chuckle to myself when the name Abel was said in the show.

[@pistol0grip0pump]

Yus!!! Been hoping for this, a full series would be awesome I love these.

[@kelly-alec]

5:30 unfortunate theme (not as in badly written, but as in unfortunate for will) in this show is that NO ONE knows boundaries when it comes to will.

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

Yes please, I want an episode on hybristophilia! Why would any woman be attracted to Bundy et al after knowing what they did? I’m all in for that!

[@jbach1738]

Your comments on medical care in prisons were so accurate. My mum spent like 20 years or something as a nurse in a prison. She was constantly talking about how she couldn't get care for her patients because nobody really gave a damn. It was almost a daily occurrence that she would be frustrated about a doctor refusing to take patients seriously, refusing to diagnose obvious medical conditions, and refusing care for people who needed it. She was always getting in verbal battles with doctors and guards about the treatment of her patients. I don't know how she did it. She was in a prison with some pretty notorious big names, like some of the Manson party for example. Yet, she always saw them all as patients who needed her help. Was she ever scared? Oh hell yes. Especially in the women's joint. Those women could be so freaking dangerous. One woman attacked another nurse and permanently disabled her. (Once it became a men's joint a lot of the violence went away. The men respected medical staff a lot more.) My mom would follow all the safety protocols, and use a lot of common sense, to stay safe. However, she always saw these prisoners as fellow humans that she was there to help. I have no idea how she did it for so long, and never became jaded about her patients. About the system and the politics, absolutely. Yet she still absolutely cared a great deal about every single inmate. She is a way better person than I could ever be, and way better than most of the people who are in charge of the care of these inmates.

[@Scottsland_Yard]

Thank you for mentioning that Personality Disorders are not an easy thing to diagnose and that it's REALLY specific. Because I was "diagnosed" with Borderline Personality Disorder by a psychiatrist when I was 19 and then told years later by a different psychiatrist that I should never have been diagnosed with BPD, and I was instead diagnosed with C-PTSD which made MUCH more sense for my experiences and symptoms

[@scriptorpaulina]

I was told by SciShow that there is no difference per the DSM, because both are lay terms, and anti-social personality disorder is the diagnosis that can lead to hypoempathy and lack of understanding of/care for social rules.

[@hyde52292]

I wish you had something like a patreon because I would totally pay to watch you react to full episodes of Hannibal, seriously these videos are not enough I get so excited when I see you upload a new video for shows I watch

[@Sofia-ge6wm]

YES ANOTHER EPISODE!!! I'm so excited to see what you say!!!

[@bazorkin]

Loosey as Joan and Rupaul in your background are giving me life, Doctor.

[@rezelchan280]

thank you so much.I've been waiting for this my whole life

[@jessylozano4098]

The hospital where I did my clinicals did have rooms that were padded. They had two tiny windows, one on the door and one facing the nurses station. I never saw them use the rooms but it does happen. Edit: I live in America.

[@phillstanford6036]

Let's crack on!! I love this channel so much I've always had my huge curiosity of forensic psychology I had psych class in college I did a paper on Dahmer and only research paper I've done that I enjoyed lol you have no idea how much I appreciate this channel. Would LOVE a Patreon with full length reactions

[@marius1822]

Simplified in one sentence the difference is psychopaths are born and sociopaths are made.

[@TheGalgut]

Difference is that sociopaths are dashing and psychopaths are charming

[@saxawinters4261]

I cannot wait until you make the analysis of season 2, episode Nº13 Mizumono. That's going to be a difficult one. I hope you make videos for all episodes of Hannibal. Keep up the great work.

[@Darling_Decay]

Hannibal is something I absolutely ADOREEEEE It helped me find a new love for something I didn’t know I had, which was aesthetic art gore/death. Oh my gooooddddddenjdanan I can’t get enough and I’m so happy I’m an artist so I can create my own with paints. I’m still so goddamn upset this series was cancelled

[@abigail2834]

Thank you for doing another episode! It's so interesting to see your opinion on my favourite show.

[@blueren6649]

Mate, you've gotta react to the episodes with Dr Du Maurier. I won't give anything away but, as a former psych myself, I found their dynamic with Hannibal by far the most complex and interesting in the show. (Great video as always) x

[@NerdKnightsReborn]

Holy hell, Eddie Izzard is in this show?!?! I may have to check that out!

[@maryholmes184]

He is.

[@Absbabs88]

@@maryholmes184 I believe Eddie uses 'she' now, but absolutely brilliant in this show..

[@deirdresokolowska5863]

I needed this today thank yooou!

[@BuckleyDiaz]

I lost counting how many times I've rewatched this show . My fav !

[@krimzonstriker7534]

Hoping we can deep dive more in episode 7 with the actual murder aspect and pathology 😉

[@andiewfs_XIII]

I’ve been in a hospital before, yes padded rooms are a thing. Though they feel like torture.

[@ragamuffinm2834]

I now work on locked psych ward with truly psychotic patients, and most are criminals. Where I live, my unit isn't considered "forensic psych", but that's a technicality, as my state hasn't really hasnt dedicated the appropriate resources to foster something like that. And whooo! Despite my professors urgings, I was like "i will never work in psych", yet here I am. And it has ruined me. My dreams of pursuing any other kind of nursing have been destroyed. Try as I might, working anywhere else in nursing is kind of boring. Not that I don't care about relatively well adjusted patients-- just, idk, I enjoy my work. That said, there was been heavy debate about the idea of psychopath vs sociopaths. I remember learning in school and on the floor that the phrase sociopath is more of colloquial distinction, not a medical one. The term sociopathy is often used to describe patients with antisocial personality disorder (cluster B). Whereas psychotic patients (technically "psychopaths" but we reslly dont use phrase, b.c it's just kind of rude) are people genuinely suffering from psychosis / psychotic break. Now, that doesn't mean that the two don't have any overlap. I have seen patients, who once, their psychosis was treated, exhibited behaviors congruent with antisocial personality disorder. Like I've seen how command hallucinations can cause patients to whimper and cry and lash out (like running naked through the streets Wyeth a chainsaw), and then once the hallucinations are controlled, they start up with death threats, plotting, and manipulative behaviors but with a very calm, cool, collected presentation (no chainsaws). 🤷‍♀️

[@margzies]

Psychopath: Tuco (Breaking Bad) Sociopath: Walter White (Breaking Bad)

[@NicksGotBeef]

Psychopathy is generally genetic or inherited whereas sociopathy is a product of environment. Sociopaths generally have empathy albeit very lacking when compared to the norm. That’s my take. Love your content Elliot. So happy to have stumbled upon your channel. And Hannibal was a great series. One of the best. And the music just sets it off.

[@ragamuffinm2834]

Ah, yes, padded rooms. We have those at the facility where I work, but only for adolescent psych. But they arent used in the way that is depicted by media. Patients are never locked in or restrained in padded rooms. We may get one for adult psych. . . But, again, it wouldn't be used for seclusion or restraints. It would be more for the soundproofing and close observation of very vocal manic and/or psychotic patients. We often get patients that scream, howl, and laugh (very loudly) all hours of the day (and for days at a time). Considering that that can rather be disruptive (and unnerving for other patients) especially at night, having a padded room fitted with cameras for observation and soundproofing is an excellent way to maintain a therapeutic environment, while being minimumally invasive. 👍 to reiterate, patients are not locked in. So yea, padded rooms exist overseas.

[@tsiqueido]

There's a passage in the Hannibal novel where Mason Verger brings in former hospital orderly Barney to discuss the conversations he had w Dr Lecter during his incarceration. Barney states that Lecter told him that he didn't consider psychology a science. This cynicism of mental health issues carries on throughout the THarris novels, and was brilliantly shown in the writing of this series. 🙂👍

[@smeva26]

psychopath: born with/ from birth Sociopath: develops after birth. eg reaction to extreme stress and trauma.

[@fp1912]

We had a padded “quiet room” in the psych hospital I was at as a teenager.

[@FabianPerception]

I’ve been looking forward to this

[@Samthe1stbob]

psychopaths are born but a sociopath is socialized

[@carebearsboy1390]

Love your channel - new sub here. I saw your House MD psych episodes and it made me all giddy inside. I do what the voices in my head tell me to do - but that's ok because they know me there. The DSM can't categorize me. I'm a teddy bear after all 🧸

[@spacemonkeypantz]

When I studied psych at uni they very briefly touched on psychopathy and sociopathy enough to tell us that they both refer to the same thing and that neither is an actual diagnosis. Online I've seen various claims both the same and in opposition to what I was taught, so I'm interested to see the rest of the video and hear your view.

[@buddy8412]

I love this! 💪🏽🍻 have to check if you've got one for Raymond Reddington(?) And i guess the difference on a certain poin, between socio and psycho is the psycho uses people and likes killing them. And a socio actually likes people, but wouldn't doubt for a second if he had to remove them from living.

[@christianp3674]

Difference is prevalence, especially when referring to psychopaths 10+ years ago and sociopath which is akin to a diagnosis as opposed to the judgemental language of psychopath.

[@artemisu.caverly2827]

Ok first and foremost I love this Hannibal coverage the show is truly iconic in its own right. And I paused the video! From my limited understanding the big difference between the constructs of sociopathy and psychopathy is empathy, and the ability to feel remorse. Sociopaths have very limited empathy while psychopaths don't posses any to begin with meaning that they are unable to experience remorse. Sociopaths are able to feel remorse but not near to the level or at the frequency of what a typical healthy functioning adult would. Hope I didn't score too low. Love love love your content and its range. Cheers! *Please do make a video on hybristophilia. Why- Why are some people like this Dr. Carthy???

[@HungryPlatypus013]

I’d recommend watching more of the show. Just as far as Will having a personality disorder - he definitely does not function well in day to day life and he barely has any personal relationships. Even in his job where he performs exceptionally well it also overwhelms him so much that he’s more prone to burnout than most, and his burnout is more extreme than most.

[@DemocratLibertarian]

In the crazy house I met a born psychopath. He was 8 I was 14. In part it was my years of being drugged and dismissed that made me a sociopath. He was born without empathy. I had to learn how useless it was and how vulnerable it made me.

[@DemocratLibertarian]

Boom, even little david wasn't insane. My significant hallucinatory experiences don't make me insane. Our sincere beliefs about the rightness of our actions is meaningless.

[@DemocratLibertarian]

Spent 3 months in a padded cell last 30 days in a straight jacket, a week "graduated" from it before release. Then I graduated high school 4.0 GPA from there out.

[@IAmFJ1]

15 seconds into a video about Hannibal I'm laughing out loud. That's art.

[@Cenyon]

Just discovered your channel, great stuff!

[@kelly-alec]

16:45 how he got will in the books! (before being ultimately arrested)

[@stardustfairy2567]

From what I have heard, seen and read about the differences between sociopathy and psychopathy is that sociopaths tends to be more aggressive physically, more angry and likely to have outbursts. Meanwhile, psychopaths are more reserved, calculating and able to more closely mirror a normal person's behavior even though it is usually just an act. This is why I love Hannibal. He is almost like the extreme version of a very precise and well adapted psychopath.

[@ANIpJs]

Padded cells are a thing but are increasingly rare in the states.

[@queenstown9534]

There's a couple interesting episodes of The Punisher that focus on PTSD, I'd love to see what you think of them.

[@Absbabs88]

Anytime someone mentions the difference between sociopath and psychopath, I can help but think of 'Sherlock.' Please do some from that show!

[@queerlybeloved257]

i paused the video to answer your question at the start! honestly, i don't know the difference b/w psychopath and sociopath. i know they're both words that get thrown around a lot in crime shows, but other than that? idk what they really, actually, truly mean in a medical context. i do think a lot of ppl tend to use them as insults, though, and i wish we'd stop that (along with "lame"). (add-on from midway thru the vid: i would totally love to learn more about people falling in love with serial killers! idk much at all about that topic)

[@yinglan7637]

0.51 Hannibal was a surgeon too lmao

[@meghanmonroe]

Always been under the impression that sociopaths have some kind of conscience but no empathy, and that's why they're often more reactive. But psychopaths have none of that, so there's just no moral or behavioral barriers preventing them from steamrolling over everyone in order to get what they want.

[@somethingclever8916]

I'd love to see your take on DR. Bedelia du Maurier

[@KrisHe1]

Yessss more Hannibal!!! Also, where are you watching? Can't seem to find it on any streaming platforms atm...

[@christhornycroft3686]

Sociopathy is more indifference, from what I’ve seen. Psychopaths, by contrast, seem to be more calculated, violent and have a plan. A sociopath will bump into you, spill your coffee, shrug and then keep going. A psychopath will spill your coffee and if one drop gets on them, they’re choking you in 5 seconds. A sociopath probably won’t actively go out looking for a fight or have blood lust, but if something happened to you, they might not care very much. A psychopath does care enough to act out on impulse. That’s just what I’ve seen.

[@pineringo]

i think a psychopath is someone who had the psychopathic traits since the beginning. while a sociopath was influenced by the environment.

[@ash-zh9vy]

we have padded cells in switzerland, but surprisingly noone really knows, ik lots of therapists were surprised when we told them our klinik had them

[@theallnighterguy]

Simple sociopaths are way more impulsive & hot headed at times & easier to spot out. while psychopaths can always be impulsive but always calm & collective & easily blend in

[@QS_1607]

HE HAS DONE IT AGAIN- thank you lmao

[@CleoHarperReturns]

I always thought sociopathy was a term that was passed around in the nineties but ultimately never legitimized as a psychological term. But I hear it thrown around in court cases on tv all the time, and people get mad when I say this, so maybe I'm wrong?

[@abstractabsurdism8486]

Uhh I love this question ok so to my understanding first of all medically no such thing as a psychopath nor a sociopath. In real life they are more legal terms than anything, while in a medical sense Anti-social Personality Disorder is used. However I've read several things about those concepts and in some literature I've come across Psychopaths are referred to as 'Snakes' - cold, callous, unbothered, acting with intent, while sociopaths are referred to as 'bulldogs' - impulsive, still lacking empathy, but hot instead of cold as in quick to anger. There's also some about how sociopathy is apparently more closely linked to trauma, while psychopaths are born this way. Nature VS nurture debate: psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. I probably don't have a super good reason for this or like one that many ppl will get but I've just been interested in psychopathy for a long time. Some people read all about dinosaurs. I read all about psychopathy. Maybe one way of looking at it could be that since I have BPD, sth about the lack of empathy and a distance between oneself and one's emotions is so alien to me that it fascinates me. Well anyways, there you go my inner Hermione said hi when you asked that question 😂✌️ disclaimer at the end: I've stated clearly or at least I'd hope so that I read all of this. As in I'm not saying any of this is fact. Ok bye ✌️

[@sean5558]

I remember an explanation of sociopathy vs psychopathy is they have all the same traits but a sociopath will be more emotional unstable and prone to outbursts and uncontrolled violence while psychopathy is more in control and cunning and can hide their malicious intentions

[@catsmom129]

13:11 Theres the case of the neurologist who examined his own brain imaging. It turned out his brain was similar to serial killers. He reflected that he had a similar lack of fear - he just channeled differently.

[@aurorav.1919]

Always thought they were both vernacular for the same disorder

[@nicholasdean3467]

Surprised Dr. Elliot still hasn't reacted to channels like JCS.

[@emmajones8715]

Side note, but Eddie Izzard is outstanding in this role!!!

[@zinthaniel9913]

Loved your commentary as usual. Very informative. Shamelessly, I shall also request again that you watch Moon Knight, since its subject matter is your expertise.

[@PCGaijin80]

MMmmm psychopath has no empathy and sociopath doesn't care about societal rules? was that it? (yay engagement!) love your videos, you've helped me understand a lot of things in a fun empathic way :)

[@TiJoe6]

I’m pretty sure the term sociopath is obsolete and has simply been replaced by psychopath. I think people associate psychopathy with “killers” and the like, and think sociopathy to be a more tame version.

[@Byoail]

Psychopaths usually plan their crimes if they plan on committing them. They also have a lack of empathy and don't think what they do is wrong. However, sociopaths' crimes/murders are impulsive and although they too have a lack of empathy, they can usually tell the difference between right and wrong.

[@Byoail]

I'm not a professional tho so don't quote me on this ;-;

[@aspelund76]

Sociopath is a very selfish person who can't consider the needs of others. Psychopath is someone with a need to inflict violence on others. I think I hot that from House MD. I believe the line was "Sociopaths are rarely violent because it's rarely I'm their interest to do so.

[@TremaineAkeWritingLabs]

Why were padded cells removed? I ask as a Patient who saw a lot of blood in the calm down room.

[@sunidesus-8670]

My understanding is that sociopath/psychopath are basically interchangeable (and outdated). I believe it's a few years old at this point, but the algorithm served me up a documentary about Broadmoor Hospital recently. I'd be super curious to hear your take on it.

[@hollieverafter]

Yes, please do a video on people falling in love with inmates and high-profile offenders!

[@kpaxian6044]

I always thought that psychopaths and sociopaths were informal terms for antisocial personality disorder. It seems that people use sociopath to refer to someone whose environment or lack of bonding or abuse etc lead them to not see or engage with people in a typical manner and like a psychopath...saw people more like objects. TV shows seem to depict them as more emotionally volatile and prone to greater outbursts of anger and more trouble with the law. The psychopaths in media often seem much more calculating and in control of their emotions and from what I gather...people use the term to describe those who were born with these traits and are much more emotionally cold and detached. I see it as a difference in how emotions and the organization of actions comes together even if there is a problem considering people with normal compassion or empathy for both. And as far as I know...neither is a legitimate diagnosis. It seems to be the way they describe a similar pathology but from the perspective of genetics or from birth...vs from the idea that this type of lack of compassion and disregard for others was caused by abuse or trauma etc. Nature vs nurture distinction. Based on how it is described...that would give Lecter the Hollywood label of psychopath. He seems to have a cold and calculating, almost mechanical way of operating. He plans well.

[@faultyfilo]

i don't know if you like suggestions on what to watch, but ginny and georgia could be a good show for this series. it has a lotta different good and harder topics like gay relationships (we love), and mental health like depression, anxiety, self harm, eating disorders. it's a teen show so it's easier to watch than others and i think is pretty good at awareness of it all :)