This Is Us S05 E05 Clip | 'Kate Lets Marc Know He's the Disease and She's Cured' | RTTV

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US Air Date: January 5, 2021
Starring: Milo Ventimiglia, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown
Network: NBC
Synopsis: Kate confronts her past. Randall's brush with viral fame leads to an unexpected discovery. Kevin debates the best path for his future.
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[@alexandrabeltran9921]

I just noticed that in episode 13 season 4, when Kate and Mark are eating in a dinner with Rebecca, he is talking about quitting his job at the record store because the manager was giving him a hard time about his smoking breaks. Now , 20 years later, his boss is scolding him about the same thing. I love how the show portraits him as someone who is stuck and will never grow up or learn from his mistakes.

[@jaynehogue2459]

So she shows up out of nowhere 20 years after the relationship and he's the one who needs to grow up? huh....

[@alexandrabeltran9921]

@@jaynehogue2459 she wanted closure! He abused her. But I guess you always had perfect relationships.

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

That’s such a neat little detail I wish I caught it

[@sweetlife031]

I’m also struck by the fact that adult Marc looks IDENTICAL to teenage Marc, despite the 2 different actors! Gosh… the casting on this show is amazing! How do they do it?! 😃👏🏻👏🏻

[@adrianapage8928]

"I give it back to you" What powerful message

[@blairelyric8021]

Some people need to confront their abuser as adults for closure and some don’t. The fact that through the show she went from only focusing on her weight issues to processing and starting to work through the trauma that caused it and kept the cycle going. I hope we end up with someone in the family talking her into starting therapy so she’s able to learn the healthy communication/copying mechanisms/self talk that is needed for her. Which would allow us to see the process and change with her too.

[@bermin11]

side note: the adult actor looks exactly like the kid actor

[@amandaj5371]

Its mad isn't? They really do put so much detail and effort into this program. The best show ever x

[@nehansulthana1380]

Exactly 💖

[@222222ania]

I thought it was the same guy at first

[@erin8205]

Very, very much so.

[@mbasakazi_s9344]

Even with the other kid actors, eg. Young Kevin and teen kevin, young kate and teen Kate..

[@juliehoover5790]

Wow, another scene that made me tear up. She’s such a great actress.

[@artrojas4732]

For the people who say that this doesn’t happen in real life or there are “better” ways to deal with something, I think you’re missing the point. The three siblings are very damaged and they’re dealing with their pain (and now with their healing process) in different ways and for different reasons. It’s logical that they do it with different methods too. Although I’m a big fan of therapy, and I eventually thought all the Pearson family needs therapy, I understand that Randall is in therapy but Kate is dealing with her pain in another way. And that’s ok because that’s real life. There are not better ways to heal because we’re all different and need different things. We don’t even approach trauma in the same way, so it’s possible that we don’t heal in the same way. If a person needs to face their demons by talking to people from their past, it’s ok, but at least I wouldn’t do it. I know people who have done it, and it’s being incredibly healing for them and I’m happy for them. In Kate’s case, I love that Toby didn’t even question her need to face her ex. And he waited for her in the car. That’s what we all need: that in the middle of our healing process, somebody supports us in whatever we need to do to heal.

[@lauraschoenborn3544]

Honestly, as a therapist I have made the recommendation that they write letters to their abuser. Because even if you don’t actually mail it, you are still letting go of some of your anger and hurt by telling them. It’s actually empowering to tell your abuser how they hurt you.

[@elliest55]

This is like a thing one fantasizes about but not a thing one does. Like, sure we've all fantasized about finding an annoying ex from 20 years ago and in our fantasy they still work at the same dead-end job they had when they were a teenager and they haven't evolved at all and we give them a real piece of our mind and drop the mic at the end... But that's not a thing that happens in real life is it?

[@topsecret5110]

I was going to comment something like this, but I honestly couldn't have said it better, myself.

[@plansforus]

I know just what you mean. I don’t think it happens often but a year ago my ex that emotionally destroyed me for 4 years - lying, cheating, codependency, using me as an emotional side chick when he started dating another girl, telling me he was still in love with me while he was with her, etc. - walked into my work after I hadn’t seen or heard from him in 2 years. He ran outside but I followed him to let him know that even though he left me in pieces I was now happily engaged, and that seeing him I knew that I was done with him forever. He told me he thought about me every single day and he would never be able to move on. I walked away knowing he meant it. When the universe gives you closure like that, it’s rare... but it does happen.

[@plansforus]

But of course this is also tv so you’re definitely right lol. This is scripted, real life confrontations like this are rarely this satisfying or perfect 😂

[@daphinekatushabe618]

Yeah for sure.

[@aekelly]

I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but he was more than "annoying", he was evil. But yeah, people don't usually get to do that. But it's awesome to see! 💜

[@graf3688]

When I was 17 I went out with a dude who was 26, he was a grown man and like Kate I was mourning the death of my grandmother, my grandfather and a horrible family environment because of it. He worked at a music store, he used to sell t-shirts and thats how we met. Later my father find out he used to have sexual relationship with teenage girls, (the youngest of them was 13), he liked little girls and unexperienced girls, like me. He took advantaged of my unexperience and of my naivety. He put me against my family who was grieving, against my classmates and against a lot of things I stood for. A few years after we broke up he texted me and we talked for hours, and he told me that there was something going on between us even after all those years. I told him I would never be with him again, it took me years to get over the pain and the hurt he put me throught. After all these years he was the same loser as before, working at the same place, a grown man going after teenagers. However after that talk I felt so good, it was better than therapy, I didn't care if he cared about what I said to him, just telling him those things out loud and having him listened was enought for me. This scene it's not unrealistic, at least not for me.

[@justinechaillou7754]

What was his answer ?

[@graf3688]

@@justinechaillou7754 He said: are you done? I said: Yes He said: then why are we still talking? and then I hung up

[@freebandz4332]

Sorry you had to go through that.

[@TheAVM2011]

This scene was made thinking of what every person who came out from a bad relationship wants to do. I agree with K Malk that it would have been deeper if Marc was actually a good person but I think that is going to be more in Randall's story. If you look at from further back they are hitting many different "person from the past" archetypes: Sophie, who went on with her life and moved on; Nicky, who was destroyed and haunted by his past; Marc, who stayed the exact same and Laurel, who knows what's going to happen there. They had to bring Marc back like this because he was such trash and clearly incapable of growth, reminded me of "Riding in Cars with Boys" a bit. Side note: The actor who plays Marc is now on Netflix in a show where he plays a decent human and I didn't buy it for the first couple of episodes. Kept thinking: "You are not tricking anyone Marc!"

[@chloedejonge]

haha is it Dash & Lily? I was thinking the same!

[@essencemariah1592]

Whatever happened to Nicky?

[@prof.joanaalmeida2074]

we've all had a Marc in our lives, and we all dream to send him back to hell. thank you for this

[@blackstone7468]

We all don't have a mark in our lives tf lmaooooo

[@totallyrufus]

I've had a Mark in my life but I don't dream of sending him to Hell. I want him to get better and have a peaceful and happy life. Not everyone wishes bad things on the people who have wronged us.

[@codyhiginbotham6616]

I love it when they’re able to cast actors who look a lot like their younger/older character

[@Dragon_Ryder2576]

Proud of you Katie Girl.

[@darky1376]

Why would she even go back and try to seek validation and change of opinion from a narcissistic abusive person like him? Loss of time and emotional energy

[@melvawages7143]

She wasn't trying to change his opinion. She had never stood up to him which had left her damaged and lacking self esteem for over 20 years . It was her way of healing. Plus, seeing he had never amounted to anything also gave her validation. His low opinion of her that he had projected onto her she could see was his issue and not hers.

[@MegaSheen15]

@@melvawages7143 couldn’t she have done that through an email or letter?

[@TheNaughtyFrench]

​@@MegaSheen15 Imagine a woman who was victim of violence domestic for years and she almost got killed by her husband do you really think at the court she wants say things to him by mail or letter ? lol

[@Elisalmi]

She goes to him for herself, not for him. I think so and I would do it!

[@denisew.5490]

She needed to do it for herself, and she nailed it!

[@bubuyhitam1499]

she deserve an Emmy with this line 🔥

[@vinceygal100]

I think way to go Kate! We all need an opportunity to actually speak to our demons

[@kevinwasilewski598]

After all that, Marc's like, "ok, What's your name again?"

[@ruthjuliana9222]

Kate has never felt good enough about herself, that why she found this guy to say you know what you lost. The truth is Kate let that guy into her life because he was the first man to ever look at her other than her father.

[@rimamalak4988]

I think a better solution would be to discuss this in therapy 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@juliatolan602]

I’m sure she did that too. Who knows?

[@artrojas4732]

There’s not a “better solution” to heal. It’s what you need at that moment. Some people can do it in therapy, some need to make amends with the people they hurt, etc. Everyone is different.

[@daphinekatushabe618]

@@artrojas4732 man you said it perfectly

[@jordancomeau9197]

Its called closure 🤗

[@Waterfallcreationsevents]

True

[@devworlddaily]

Ive never hated a character so much hes despicable

[@maxhalsted5381]

Agreed his character fits the signs and symptoms of bi-polar disorder. His erratic behavior and often volitele mode changes for starters. I want to make this clear I am not making excuses for his actions

[@devworlddaily]

@@maxhalsted5381 I know people who have a bipolar disorder It hasnt once prevented them from treating me with respect

[@maxhalsted5381]

@@devworlddaily that is very good.

[@TheNaughtyFrench]

@@maxhalsted5381 It's not bipolar disorder it's called Narcissist pervert.

[@luna.1409]

Psychopath

[@clarinamascarenhas7499]

He’s in a dead end job he hates and she’s giving him this long speech about she’s doing great.

[@olgafrances]

Have you watched the series?

[@Teenbiblegirl567]

I can see why she did this it's closure for her. Awesome job Kate

[@chloeelaine5959]

My marks name was Brandon. He was literally a predator and made fun of everything I liked and told me I’d never be skinny. I’m 24 now and healing.

[@sophieadams3101]

Love this. She’s such an inspirational and strong character.

[@starkneverdied9001]

She’s the absolute worst character always makes herself the victim. Blamed and hated her mom for nothing as she put it “just for being herself” later when toby was getting fit and better did the same with him. She so self absorbed.

[@yankeegirl3380]

Officially the strongest woman I have ever seen. You're strong and beautiful, Kate. Never forget that! Be blessed.

[@davidelliott1396]

Biggest you mean

[@МаринаСмаль-г4р]

There is nothing strong about this.

[@melanie7068]

This is not strong. Kate is a walking victim

[@kevinwasilewski598]

He’s like “can we please step around the corner, I don’t want everyone to see me talking to you”

[@mariannemccarthy8354]

OH MY! Most powerful scene to me in my opinion WOW! YUP- "I give it back to YOU! " We HAVE all had a Marc in our lives,,,,, AWESOME acting......

[@imaanali9705]

Broken in all the right places is that supposed to pass for a complement

[@Theaterg15]

Marc in his twenties is like the bf’s that my ex friends dated back in the time. I’m glad I never go for those type of guys. I never go for ones who do drinking heavily and smoking. Mostly what I can relate to this that friends of mine in the past were actually like him who treated me so harsh all the time acting like they care.

[@IHARumor]

I totally get what the writers were trying to go for, but this scene kinda bothered me. I mean, I get that their relationship really affected her, but it's been 20 years. For both of them. There is no reason to think he hasn't changed as well. It's crazy to just burst into someone's life and tell them all these things. This scene showed us that his life is still similar to when he was younger, unlike Kate, who is happily married and surrounded by her loved ones. But it doesn't show us anything more than that. No, I don't feel sympathy for Marc, but it seem unfair of her to just drop all of this on him and walk away.

[@robertbishop9323]

Oh hell no!! Unload.. get it off your chest, claim your healing and move on. I don't care how far away they are. Your health deserves it. Its the very thing that causes disease and illness. Those fractures and hurts are so detrimental.

[@erin8205]

I know, and when Marc asked if she lived in "SD" and instead of Kate saying she's lives in Southern California, she made it seem she could have come from ANYWHERE...It came off odd and full of expended energy and time.

[@melvawages7143]

I don't. He's a creep and no telling how many other women's lives he had messed up since Kate. He flat told her he went after her because her realized she was vulnerable. I actually thought Kate was too nice. She should have told him she aborted his child. Let him feel some of that guilt she had carried for over 20 years.

[@fishstick6128]

But he mentally and emotionally abused her and took advantage of her and even after 20 years he reminisces about how great their relationship was because she was "broken". And he, a grown man, got her, a teenager, pregnant so its clear he was also sexually using her when he wasn't even physically attracted to her. It might had been 6 months for him but its carried through to her adulthood. I think its fair that he should understand what he did to a child so young and naive

[@lifewithmejessiemarie2570]

If he ever on any level wants to grow as a man...he needs to hear it...but as someone who was in a very similar relationship for a decade..id never go back to chat because they don't care how they hurt you. Although on the flipside...I think most people wouldn't have this conversation shearing a fictional character to say these things for all of us that can't. Its extremely validating. I had a good cry when watching this episode. Very healing for a lot of women id think.

[@alexhoneybee9677]

I never understood this scene. Many of us have had toxic ex's. I had one back in high school as well. But here it is almost fifteen years later and I can't say I feel like calling up my ex just to tell him how toxic he was. Isn't that the kind of thing you address in your heart, heal and move on? I don't know.

[@Anne-uu7nv]

Everyone has a way to cure themselves

[@zen3978]

Even I thought this

[@gingerisevil02]

I would think whether it is good or bad I would find it humiliating if a flash from the past thought I was still thinking of them

[@mimimomo4902]

A toxic boyfriend is one thing. This one was a freaking sociopath

[@JohnSacapano]

Kate was grieving over the loss of Jack which she believed was her fault and she needed to move forward. Marc threw her all the way back, took the little amount of hope she had and destroyed it. Kate basically stayed in that broken state for a long time until she met Toby. So yeah, it’s his fault. He was the catalyst that set off her downward spiral to despair.

[@geertruivanbroekhoven7209]

Completely unrealistic ... people like this man never listen more then a second to something that they don't want to hear. They either 1) run away 2) change the subject 3) make a bad joke 4) start attacking the other, 5) deny what happened or 6) play the victim. But simply listen for 3 seconds ... ? I don't think so. That's why I don't really like scenes like this. In this whole series the caracters always let everybody finish there sentences. No matter what they say. In real life that's rarely the case ...

[@melvawages7143]

No, you don't get it. It was therapeutic for her to get that out. she stood up to him and she had never done that. She realizes he did not get it. He had not changed in over 20 years why would he from one conversation? but Kate will finally take control of her life. Just wait, we will see her losing weight now is my bet. The actress has already lost 150 pounds and has been hiding it.

[@geertruivanbroekhoven7209]

@@melvawages7143 Oh, but I do get it ... it is supposed to be very therapeutic for her to 'get that out'. To stand up for herself. But in real life she wouldn't 'get it out' because people like this man never listen for more then a second to what they 'don't get'. That's why the scene is completely unrealistic. She could just as well say these words to a tree or a wall. But that wouldn't make good emotional television. P.S.: Kate has been overweight all her life, so it is not ONLY due to this man's actions. It would be a bit bizar if her 'standing up against him' would be the only reason to loose al her overweight. But anything is possible in unrealistic stories and movie scenes.

[@geertruivanbroekhoven7209]

@Star 98 🙂🙂🙂

[@thatswhatsup0493]

"Get her Jade!"

[@deborahv.3402]

Yeess come through!

[@shawnagrubb9958]

Lord, I love this show so much! Love you Kate. You're strong ❤️

[@cristisojo]

I really like kate s actuation. really It is so good. congratulations Kate. of doing what you had to do so long ago.

[@blackhummingbird6577]

So when I was watching this I felt like “really you’re going to go there and disrupt someone else’s life and put all of your baggage on them,” But as I was watching it I realized that this is what she needed. I’ve never liked the character of Kate because she’s always been a victim. She’s always been whiny, but in this episode by confronting him she was able to take her power back and that is what she needed to do. Also, it would’ve been different if Mark came at it from a different perspective like he acknowledged what he did but he totally just glossed over it like he didn’t do anything wrong.

[@MondoBeno]

The writers are running out of ideas. This scene is unrealistic and improbable. I know it's everyone's fantasy to find that their former teen bully is now a loser with a dead end job, but that's rarely how it goes.

[@emilieraptor9373]

Yeah they should stop... last season was so boring sometimes like how it was so dramatic that the kid ate avocados without the dad being there... like jesus it's so insignificant

[@AdamSmith-rd1to]

They’re not running out of ideas. They’re showing how Kate is dealing with her trauma. This kinda stuff actually happens

[@Godmysheperd]

@@emilieraptor9373 lol welcome to this is us

[@Jennyfisch]

@@AdamSmith-rd1to Her action may be what actually happens. His reaction is not.

[@kelleymasters1522]

In my opinion if she had to go and see him and give him the speed she still cares what he thinks.

[@thatswhatsup0493]

Nah it's also about closure

[@Sugaijo]

I’m sorry, but I would never allow someone to have so much power over me that I seek them out 20 year later to tell them how I feel. Somethings to talk to your therapist about and move on.

[@cambriaalise2014]

Well personally I had an abuser 10 years ago and i think I would need that. To look him in the face. Because I still have flashbacks and certain things set me off and I’ve tried talking it out and that doesn’t work. Different things work for different people

[@marcelaramirez1501]

@@cambriaalise2014 im so sorry that happened to you,God bless you.

[@krisjackson6567]

Congratulations but not everyone is like you.

[@Sugaijo]

@@krisjackson6567 Wow...this seems personal....work out your issues sis

[@tuya6307]

Oh my god I want to watch this show so bad. Why the heck Korean Netflix doesn't have this one !!!!

[@kmalik707]

It would have been more in-depth if Marc was genuinely sorry and a better person. There’s a lot more room for complexity if Kate has these negative feelings towards someone who isn’t making it easy for her to be mad at anymore.

[@ronachten2902]

Best comment on here that I've seen.

[@novadaisy3208]

Agreed. Its sorta unrealistic that older mark has not changed one bit. He does the same things his younger self did...

[@darky1376]

@@novadaisy3208 he is a narcissistic abusive person. These people can't change

[@entertainer_ev2747]

@@darky1376 nah pretty sure its understandable for a 24 year addict could grow in 20 year time especially with maturity

[@darky1376]

@@entertainer_ev2747 I don't think so mate. Narcissists and abusers never change.

[@delusionsofgrandeur1330]

Hurt people hurt people. I’m glad she released it but I don’t agree with her cutting him down. Who knows what made him the way he was?

[@jazzyjaz0105]

Agreed 💯💯

[@megs348]

I’ve wondered that too.

[@KiraKristen22]

Thats my girl!!😭😭😭

[@lisaornas3804]

I really think Kate came off as a psychopath in this episode. She cyber stalked her ex, found out his place of work, traveled across the country to show up uninvited, made assumptions about how he hasn't changed, yelled at him, called him a virus, said her husband was in the car, wanting to kill this dude... all in the middle of a pandemic. Seemed really crazy to me.

[@xxanonimo]

Agreed

[@davidelliott1396]

Whale

[@michelleaugust6983]

she didn't travel cross country. He works two hours away.

[@alexandramoyer8785]

@@davidelliott1396 stop

[@ronachten2902]

The scene that has me deciding to close the book on this series. It had some great moments, but it has slipped. I kept hoping it would get it back, but it feels so inauthentic and full of itself.

[@laceupsenpai9223]

Bye 👋🏽

[@JustmeIvy]

Kate is such a toxic person herself but off course nothing is ever her own fault

[@specail1]

So far the only thing that feels contrived is that Randals mom is still alive. Or was alive at least. And Kate may not be perfect but I think she has been making steps the whole time to better herself. As has everyone on the show really.

[@thatswhatsup0493]

This show is not for simple minded people ;)

[@topsecret5110]

For me, it was when they showed that Randall's biological mom was still alive. There was no need. I was like "Omg, is this where this series starts to become one of those that 'used to be really good'?" I really hoped it wouldn't happen.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

If someone is over someone else, they don't need to go all that distance, seek them out and tell them that. If you're over someone and the trauma they brough to you, you just don't have this need, you're just over it, you're not giving it any more of your energy and time than you already did. If she needed to go tell him that, it means she was still not over that till this very scene which is of course sad.

[@johnhart8856]

I literally don't understand why she's playing this off as a big victory... all it does is reaffirm that he lives in her head rent-free

[@glindagoodwitchofnorthview8287]

Totally

[@bigsistahtips]

I thought this was so much bs from Kate. 1) she knew that guy has issues but she insisted she wanted to be with him. 2)You don’t need to talk to your ex partner to have closure. You’re grateful it’s over and move on. Then you talk it out on therapy to find Mechanisms that will help you with insecurities. 3) did it ever occurred to her that he might had issues himself? This victim mode where she feels comfortable at is exhausting for anyone around her.

[@tylersmith9465]

Their is no one else who can take her place never to late

[@tylersmith9465]

Kate has a Dimond inside of her heart that shines as bright as the sun

[@darky1376]

Why did Rebekah even allow her then to date an adult though?? 🙄

[@entertainer_ev2747]

Kate was 18-19 it wasnt the end of the world

[@darky1376]

@@alwaysglistening she was paying attention to other stuff though like she seemed worried when Kate wanted to go on that trip thing alone with Marc but it baffles me that she wasn't worried about her underage daughter dating an adult.

[@darky1376]

@@entertainer_ev2747 um watch the above video again sis and I don't think she was 18 yet. Kate seemed still traumatized about it. She mentioned it that's why I mentioned it too lol. Maybe it's not the end of the world for you but it's wrong.

[@entertainer_ev2747]

@@darky1376 no she dated Marc around the start of Randall's freshman year in college meaning she was 18 and yes when she says child she means that maturity wise she was different compared to now

[@melvawages7143]

Kate was 18, not 12 and not much rebecca could have done. Did YOU listen to your mom at 18?

[@tylersmith9465]

Kate never gave up

[@ppl2luv]

the casting in this show >>

[@Jaleel_HS]

im happy she had this moment that being said imagine not seeing your ex girlfriend in 20 years and she had her husband drive her out to see you states away just to tell you that you suck. idk what she was expecting from this

[@tylersmith9465]

The damage is done can't be un done

[@user-tr2qq6hh2t]

Unrealistic scene

[@samkirrin9776]

Why is this so controversial? People do confront their abusers. My mum was abused by a family friend and she told us this recently. So my grandparents called him up and gave him a piece of their minds. It was so beautiful to watch and goddamn I hate that jackass. It's admirable Kate did this. Dump all that hate on him,yes. His behavior caused her trauma and this trauma shouldn't be hers to bear. It should be his. No sympathy for marc

[@rebeccadennen7063]

You tell em girl

[@Ehhhaway]

I hate this show. The characters just get worse, more complaints, more problems. She still hasn’t lost weight, Randals anxiety is worse.

[@iangreen7440]

they never feel bad

[@kathconserv]

Marc’s words.... “I’m sorry”.

[@raephaelemasirnille5794]

I really don't get the point of Kate telling Toby about her past. Or why she felt the need to confront Marc. It's the past!!!! You learn from a bad relationship then you move forward. What's the point of dredging it all up? Was she looking for remorse on his part, an apology? You cut toxic people out of your life and never look back. Why rummage through the garbage once it's in the dumpster? And what's the point of Randall's new storyline since his mother is dead? More hurt? , another parent who was alive and never wanted to know him? Wish Randall could have taken 5 more minutes with Kevin to make amends. And Madison, she does not have to travel with him. It's all so simple.

[@enzolcv486]

Wtf ? Past isn’t so easy to move on. I, personally, am dealing with my father’s toxic behavior. It’s been 2 years since I’ve never seen him and I feel like he have so much power over me even if he’s not here. Whenever I’m ready, I will sure confront him about all the horrible things he did. I think she was so brave!

[@raephaelemasirnille5794]

@@enzolcv486 Well everybody is different. I cut toxic people who have treated be badly out of my life and I have never looked back. I don't get doing what Kate and you need to do but everybody has to do what is right for them. My opinion was just that.

[@topsecret5110]

@@enzolcv486 So, when you're ready, you're going to go up to him like Kate did and give him a real piece of your mind and drop your mic? And then what, he'll apologise? It doesn't work that way in real life. I feel like this is a poor portrayal. There's way more that goes into to mending relationships. Something about this was really off. It seemed rushed.

[@user-tr2qq6hh2t]

Yh I wasn’t feeling the episode

[@enzolcv486]

@@topsecret5110 do you really think I got inspired from Kate’s reaction? And was like oh okayy, will do the same.. No. I just always knew that whenever I’m ready, I need him to hear all the things I have to say to him. How is this unrealistic?!? It just needs time to process all the things you’ve gone through and whenever you’re ready you let him carry the weight he make you carry. This has nothing to do with apologies, trying to show how someone has been abusive your entire live can wake him up and shook him because sometimes people think they had a correct behavior but they’re not, maybe it will change nothing but if we feel like doing it to move on, what’s the problem.

[@kattbella26]

Kate sadly we put ourself in this position and we know better but we are so broken we take it, after the break up you should have got help, that your fault not his you knew he was broken from the start,

[@calliefinck6275]

he doesn't even remember how long their relationship lasted

[@clubsnatcher]

I've never watched the show but picking up from what's presented... I hope she isn't meant to be a role model. I've suffered the aftereffects of a broken relationship as well - years - just like her character. But I became stronger, i didn't harbor it or need someone else's validation to move on. This is kinda pathetic. Clearly she isnt over him and that's her problem, not his.

[@clubsnatcher]

If I was her husband I'd be very concerned

[@shanebracken8358]

Kate’s right about the disease part, but we don’t know if he’s broken

[@thickymcghee7681]

I hope Marc finds someone amazing and lives a happy life. Good luck Marc.

[@thenightporter]

I have been through this too.

[@samanthab1923]

What did he do to her?

[@xyPERSON]

What Kate does in this scene is what anyone who cares enough about themselves and about changing their life for the better should do. You do not allow toxic elements to remain in your life because as long as those elements do remain you cannot and will not be able to progress and move forward. Her ex-boyfriend Marc is a toxic element that she desperately needed to let go of and be rid of. After twenty long years he is still in the same position... the same rut that he was twenty long years before. It is painfully obvious he has no desire whatsoever to improve himself and make his life better and I pity the next woman who is foolish enough to get involved with him because he will drag her down just like he did to Kate.

[@jaynehogue2459]

I would agree if she was currently saying him but this is 20 years after the relationship ended and she shows up randomly out of nowhere and it's bizarre

[@GodsSon987]

I know Kate wanted to expel her personal demons by confronting Marc, but this scene rubbed me the wrong way. Rather than feeling happy for Kate having an empowering moment telling off her abusive ex, I actually felt sympathy for Marc seeing how much he hasn't changed from years ago. The scene came across as Kate looking down on him, basically mooning how better off she is now compared to him. Its made more evident on the ride back when she tells Toby how Marc "looked so small," wore a "stupid t-shirt" and had "empty dreams" like wtf. Kate looked so snobby in that moment. Like girl I know you have issues, but you have an amazing support system of family and friends who will be there for you. Don't know if I can say the same about Marc. I know what the writers were intending to do, but what they ended up also doing was making me hope that there's a tiny bit of redemption for a pos like Marc. Now I'm hoping they visit his side of the story more in depth, but sadly, I don't think they will

[@Tashelove1049]

I’m sorry but kates character annoys me .

[@davidelliott1396]

She’s a melt

[@Aled7_21]

Agree she is a drama queen about everything and often thinks she’s the only one with problems or that her problems are bigger than everyone’s. She’s my least fav sibling, in fact I only like Randall and Kevin is tolerable but Kate ugh

[@samkirrin9776]

Then you dont really understand the show. At all

[@prettynticing]

YES!!!!

[@theveganmodelo9383]

This scene hit hard, I found out my “mother” is Marc.

[@lenanash798]

I dont mean any harm but if she was married and had a kid why even see him. You obviously moved on with your life.....sometimes u got to faced the fact you'll never get closure just keep it pushing

[@wafflewafflegod]

She’s is all about blaming everyone except herself. This is not healing and progress. Things more projection and avoidance of responsibility

[@glindagoodwitchofnorthview8287]

She tells him how awesome her husband is, but then she dumped him like a potato

[@mrslundy1535]

I love everyone with masks, during the Coronavirus. Feels like we are in the same time period and these are happening while I'm having online lessons. I don't have any time problems anymore.

[@tylersmith9465]

Good job kate

[@tylersmith9465]

Nothing wrong with being your self

[@domtube4783]

I did not know she was a teen and he was 24 😳

[@richaagrawal6830]

Wow! Just wow!

[@dbsrsb23]

Does a woman ever accept accountability for her actions?

[@jsnrvst]

That scene was very satisfying. Seeing what a loser Mark had grown up to be, and seeing Kate getting her closure. Of course in real life our abusers rarely stay quiet during our cathartic speeches. It's what we wish we could do.

[@kathconserv]

I Wouldn’t have gone to see him. He doesn’t deserve the satisfaction.

[@jessicachernak8699]

This whole scene was so cringey and unrealistic. All I can think is that guy in reality would laugh right in her face, make some really hurtful fat jokes and call her pathetic for coming to him with that nonsense 20 years later and be completely dismissive of her hurt feelings. I'm sorry but the little 6 month relationship she had with this dude is like a drop of water in a lake. Move on. Most women came across at least one "loser" in their lives that was also damaged. Confronting them is not going to give you this satisfaction, it is more than likely going to make you more upset because it meant more to you than it ever meant to them. The sound of his laughter as you walk away trying to keep your chin up would be deafening.

[@ronniep9272]

Good to see Lars Ulrich in this show.

[@RaySchwarz.]

Imagine if Jack were alive when Kate was with Mark. What would’ve happened?

[@placruise]

How nice of her to seek out the guy who hurt her 20 years ago and tell him he's crap. So stupid . Of course we would all like to let the person that hurt us know we are over them. However showing up after 20 years proves your not. Stooge move.

[@llarmstrong783]

Disappointed. I wanted him to Randalls intruder

[@mikeL65000]

You want some cheese with that whine?

[@lindaleelaw5277]

Just hold group therapy sessions zzz

[@МаринаСмаль-г4р]

Oh my god. It is such crap.

[@ingridb.1209]

Was that really necessary?

[@areejqamar3334]

Arthur Smith

[@TheManFromKansas]

Marc is still a loser, Kate dodged a bullet.

[@essencemariah1592]

Honestly I don’t like that they incorporated Covid into the show. It’s unnecessary. I want to escape this awful reality not watch it play out on an already overly dramatic series. Watching them in masks just looks dumb to me.

[@Tashelove1049]

I hate that too, like why are they randomly wearing masks .... it’s a fictional show we don’t need the insertion of obvious current events.

[@essencemariah1592]

@Mr. Penguin it’s a freaking show. Period.

[@jcpndn]

Well would you rather we wait a whole year, or longer, until the next season? They are incorporating COVID to wear masks in scenes so they are safe. We can’t be so selfless to say “god I wish they wouldn’t put reality into this fictional show for my sake” and have them risk their health or someone else’s. I’m thankful we still get new episodes with the safety measures they are taking.

[@glindagoodwitchofnorthview8287]

Good God! This is the most forced moment of the show.Feels like a Dhar Mann video.

[@The19720226]

Csodálatos sorozat

[@whenpatito]

why is she not wearing a mask?

[@Redhead408]

Why wasn’t he wearing a mask

[@whenpatito]

​@@Redhead408he is portrayed as very irresponsible so i'm not surprised but her, whats her reason?

[@Redhead408]

@@whenpatito talk to the Producers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and tell them why he or she isn’t wearing one make sense why

[@krinapatel1969]

@@whenpatito we’re trying to forget about covid. Why would the show keep bringing it up. They need to not bring it up every episode

[@jazzlover9050]

@@krinapatel1969 thank u my thoughts exactly

[@anthonylewis3095]

Uh, pointless scene but okay!

[@ronneylight6431]

Always annoying look at Kate scene, Always something made up stupid thing.