This is what a GUN MOUSE can do in THE FINALS

[@StruthGaming]

🔫 Ragnok 2 Gaming Mouse - www.ragnok.net/product/ragnok-2-vertical-gaming-mouse-for-fps-and-tps-games/?ref=20 🎯 The ClawMate Mouse Mod - struthgaminggear.com/

[@Expresso_Gaming]

Struth do you offer some kind of training?

[@Giraffinator]

"tactically hiding and crying" wow my whole life is pretty tactical

[@TheMainEvnt601]

Hell yeah. Love seeing this. Glad you dusted it off and pulled it back out. I may get one.

[@StruthGaming]

It's fun for a change of pace. I wouldn't get one expecting to aim better overall though.

[@PooPooPerson]

Seems like you'd lose a lot of fine control from the fingertips, but gain a lot of range of motion from having your wrist flexing/extending instead of deviating. Wish there were more options in vertical mice for esports

[@incediumignis]

you could also use a really low sensitivity and a huge mouse pad and get used to doing huge movements with your arms, if it wasnt so expensive id definately buy and try to main it. Right now i am using a diy custom mouse for fingertip grip so it would definately be interesting to see the difference. Its also very unfortunate that this is the only mouse in the market with an even remotely has a good sensor and is vertical.

[@StruthGaming]

Spot on. The flexing/extending honestly feels better for tracking when you're already on target, but doesn't translate well to flicking, moving around the map and micro-adjustments. With some innovation perhaps the weaknesses could be mitigated enough to make vertical mice a viable choice for aimers.

[@kimjongpoontv69]

i feel like the sensor they used is holding this back from being truly viable. Its pixart 3335, which is a very cheap sensor that has LOD issues. Ideally youd want a 3395 or at the very least a 3370

[@undsclosed]

the ragnok looks so bizarre but usable at the same time, im not sure whether or not to like it

[@v0HaVoK0v]

I used to use a zalman fpsgun way way back, they are actually great for horizontal tracking, anything vertical is the weakness for sure

[@Bwalston910]

definitely makes it feel more immersive

[@thatcrispywaffle4745]

"we ended up 21-7 which is okay" bro i would freak out if i got that lol. i usually get around 10-8

[@LordAngelus]

get gooder

[@notinterested8452]

More designs and prototypes will result in outstanding groundbreaking technology.

[@zyadelmarwany4566]

Why does it cost 80$?? Its just a damn mouse, i hope it gets more popular and more companies begin making it, so prices go down

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

saying a mouse is just a damn mouse or a keyboard is just a damn keyboard is dumb its like saying why are TVs so expensive its just a TV its the feature range, material durability an unique designs Gameball is genius mouse an is quite expensive Ergonomic Keyboards can get very expensive but have tons of features

[@Actual_Pickle]

I found one on another website for 10

[@engin333r]

It's impressive to see u managed to aim very well and frag with this thing mate. I guess the only 2 ways to change the LOD of this mouse would be to either change the mouse feets to thinner ones, or to mod and change the sensor. I would choose to change the sensor, seems the better choice.

[@StruthGaming]

Definitely agree with you on that one. A better sensor would go a really long way.

[@SallyD-xo]

i really want to try one of these! i think it would be really cool once you got used to it

[@Isaax]

Honestly, I want this. I have come to somewhat despise using my Logitched G Pro X Superlight, due to it's symmetrical design. I had an older Logitech, I believe a G403, that was properly right handed and I remember having a much nicer time with my wrist, whereas this shit forces me to twist the wrist just to get a good grip. The gun mouse seems like a pleasure to use in terms of this comfort

[@Trojanpige]

Can you use this for work like video editing? My wrist hurts from using the PC all day and all night.

[@GRiMS2K]

Im one of those who still waiting for a optimized vertical mice with up to date specs and weight. Sadly wont ever come i think...

[@OnionThyme]

I didn't know this mouse was out yet. I just remember seeing him get absolutely roasted on r/mousereviews. Glad to know it isn't a perfect mouse, but better than most people would expect

[@MajatekYT]

You should try the vertical DXT 3 Mouse by City Ergonomics! The Ragnok really isn't that good because you lose any precise fingertip control which is important for micro adjustments to land headshots. The DXT 3 is all fingertip control which may feel weird at first but is second only to using a stylus (OSU players recommend drawing tablets for rhythm games and some even branched out to tactical shooters like Valorant with their drawing tablets). Only downside is because it's a niche ergonomic mouse, it's fairly expensive for what it is - the upside is it saves your wrists.

[@user-yr9zs6sr9d]

what sensor does it use

[@mannyisthisyoutoo]

@struthgaming could you 3D print a baseplate to be more ergonomic?

[@noormohamed11]

if that mouse has a 6 axix gyro it will be life changing

[@charliec364]

Hi there! I play the finals with this mouse. What sensitivity settings did you end up finding to be the best? Thanks!

[@StruthGaming]

Ended up on 26 in-game, 87 FOV and 1000 DPI

[@charliec364]

I recall in a prior video you said you experimented with different y vs x axis so it’s fun to see what you landed on. Thanks!

[@charliec364]

@@StruthGaming How about for the mouse zoom and scope zoom?

[@marctoonz813]

If you aren't using it anymore i will gladly take it. I've been looking for an adaptive mouse i can hold in my hand.

[@brushrunner]

I use a vertical mice from logitech, for RSI purposes, my gaming mice broke so ive become a vertical mouse gamer, but for realz it doesnt beat the horizontal in anyway, movements feel too clumsy i’m using more sensitivity to make up for the lack of agility which leads to less accurate shots. But Whats even better for RSI is having different angles you can switch out through the day, so the horizontal(gaming)+vertical(working) combo is best. I’ve been dying to buy that m2k for a lifetime now

[@nagiaoe2434]

Are the artisan mouse pads good or just a meme? Any pad you recommend in particular?

[@MrSupersonic2012]

I've been rocking a vertical mouse for the last year. (Not this one.) And it's definitely a bit of a learning curve and having to get used to the different feeling. Now though I mainly use the vertical mouse and whenever I switch back to a regular mouse it feels weird to me.

[@StruthGaming]

Which vertical mouse are you using?

[@mo-akif]

@@MrSupersonic2012 this aint the search bar bro

[@superghostfresh9095]

I wonder if higher vertical sense would actually feel natural for this peripheral.. 🤔

[@osgasojo]

I don't like the traditional mouse movement and the carpal tunnel is killing me, so if the Ragnok is on a similar level to a normal mouse, then it's automatically an upgrade for me.

[@proflanky]

I got the mouse and its quite a pain using it as its not as precise as a regular mouse. I had to take off the base as it got in the way each time.

[@HumbleDude46995]

thankyou for saving me the "WONDER" and $$$$. Its a no for me

[@liggerstuxin1]

Looks like it’s better in terms of longevity for carpel tunnel

[@solkvist8668]

It still surprises me that we don’t have a vertical mouse with a good sensor in it. I’d love to give them a shot, but losing a significant amount of accuracy to that doesn’t feel even remotely worth it. Just give me a gaming mouse with a vertical form factor, in wireless. I’d buy that immediately just to give my hand a break

[@lefonwastaken3393]

Hey Struth, would love to see a video from you where you talk about Kovaaks and what routines/scenarios to use and which ones you use. I’ve been feeling demotivated lately because my Kovaaks training hadn’t been transferring over to in game and seeing how precise your aim is, it would be nice to hear you talk about it!

[@jamesbailey6200]

Do you do one on one aim coaching?

[@chk42]

when for left handed ?

[@morganfreeman8230]

why not use raw accel to higher up your vertical sens? while keeping your horizontal sens untouched

[@StruthGaming]

Could be worth a shot. The thing is tracking vertically actually feels quite good at 1:1, it's just the transition to it that feels so jumpy.

[@morganfreeman8230]

@@StruthGaming ahh gotcha, still worth a try

[@PurrkourCat]

I was thinking of making a Business about Verticle mice! I think it is a good idea and I could possibly make Verticle mice better instead of these Mice we have had for Decades!

[@StruthGaming]

Would be nice to see some modern equivalents start to come out to see if there's something to it.

[@GRiMS2K]

Struth, how does mouse1 and mouse 2 feel? like alot of post/pre travel? do they feel snappy, or mushy? thanks

[@StruthGaming]

Definitely more mushy, it's a smooth trigger without any noticeable click. Doesn't matter much for tracking weapons but for clicking it's probably not ideal. I also change my ADS from toggle to hold, it feels much better to hold in the triggers than to hover.

[@GRiMS2K]

cheers mate, yeah was thinking for tacshooters, but if its no click feeling that kinda sucks tbh! appreciate u taking ur time to reply, thank you!@@StruthGaming

[@finity9316]

I wonder if anyone has made like a glove that works like a mouse and you just move your hands in the mouse pad with you palm open

[@m0rsanhannink287]

I ain't gonna lie that's an insane idea I could see in the future

[@KillDozer44]

I heard this game is insane Aim '''ASSIST'' also kinda sad whats happening to gaming

[@morganfreeman8230]

just got nerfed

[@DrAzTiK01]

it is a good product if you have some pain at carpa tunnal

[@eejayyTV]

Hey @struthGaming how is this mouse on apex?

[@StruthGaming]

I haven't spent a huge amount of time with it in apex, just a session or two. Honestly pretty good. Felt super messy in some fights as I was getting used to it, particularly against AD strafing. Had some really nice tracking and even some Kraber flicks before long.

[@sigra4867]

vertical needs to be controlled with a joystick like mechanism moving my whole hand wont do

[@tassfamily9686]

Is it compatible with Xbox?

[@gamaxytb]

I now want a gun mouse XD

[@3bdoyt313]

what's ur sens ?

[@StruthGaming]

Ended up on 26 in-game, 87 FOV and 1000 DPI

[@pathofapsycho]

what mousepad is that

[@StruthGaming]

Aqua Control Zero

[@rhysdoes3dprinting]

no way optimum tech has a c l o n e

[@Korbin21]

When is someone making a mouse gun so that killing people feels like a video game?

[@lukaslanger8077]

Just hold your gun gangster style sideways, so your gaming muscle memory will kick in immediately.

[@sc9433]

this will prevent you from getting carpal tunnel syndrome later on in life. If you use a regular mouse alot for work and gaming, ull eventually get Carpal tunnel syndrome. safe yourself before it happens by using a vertical mouse instead.

[@danielwilliams3161]

Legion go brrr

[@notreya]

a fuckin what lmao

[@leoncca]

I'm still not sure you and Optimum aren't the same person, maybe that match was a cover up from the goverment.

[@trevorbergstrom00]

Kbm players have access to shit like this and $2-5k setups but still complain about console aim being too good. And then they nerf the piss out of it and remove zoom snapping which no game has ever done for a console shooter.

[@WOMFT]

is this ur final time using it

[@GlitchBoy-ws5in]

Is it consider cheat? I wanna use it too!

[@LambatAwal]

I want gyro mouse if that even exist

[@user-stanrbm]

Looks like Lenovo Legion Go.

[@kevinkev1530]

👍🏾👍🏾

[@godlee4779]

CAN YOU PLAY APEX WITH THIS MOUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT

[@kingkhai9752]

That fps count is atrocious. 😂

[@StruthGaming]

Yeah I may need to fiddle with OBS settings or something. I usually use Shadowplay but figured OBS was a better bet for recording a full game.

[@UniDeathRaven]

nah, I will stick to basic mouse.

[@sc9433]

this will prevent you from getting carpal tunnel syndrome later on in life, CTS fucking hurts and your gaming life will be over. If you use a regular mouse alot for work and gaming, ull eventually get Carpal tunnel syndrome. save yourself before it happens by using a vertical mouse instead.

[@Archiez2]

This mouse is just bad lacks ergonomics

[@to174jay9]

gimmick. i dont see how this is that much different from moving the mouse and holding down a button vs pulling a trigger.

[@StruthGaming]

The big difference to me is in the wrist movements.